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No metric has Emery done better this season than Arteta? Top of the League table, best defense and most goals scored. Even if emery won head to head, Arsenal have performed much better than emery’s team. Maybe the Arsenal haters in the poll voted. Emery has to successfully coach a top 6 team for me to say he is better.

@@theach84 Sure you arent a little biassed there? Emery is MOTY by fucking miles based on the expectations of the respective clubs.

@@PvtVallen based on expectations? This is Arteta’s first job managing. Emery has not only managed over 10 years but multiple jobs has managed in many different countries. Also it’s a lot harder to manage a big club than to manage villa. It’s a lot harder to juggle champions league and EPL title race. The pressure alone arteta has from a top club. In a top 4 race you can draw or lose a game and still be on course. Arteta has won last 16 lose 1 draw 1 and still may not win the league. Different pressure. Emery seem to always fumble when he is managing a big club. Was terrible managing PSG…. Could not handle that pressure.

Agreed, hea got palace playing well and think they will suprise next season

Yeh that assessment hasn't aged well already

The goalkeepers have let him down all season

football hipsters love him because he pissed the championship with the best squad in the league

@@celtic69 didn’t have anywhere near the best squad😂 how many players in that team had you heard of before last season? Huh? Benson? Zaroury? Foster? Maatsen? Tella? Ekdal? Beyer? Al dakil? Vitinho? All main players who no one knew

Tbf his defence has let him down a lot

@@user-wy3vb4vl8c pretty much every single one of those players was an international or from a top club, Burnley had the best squad in the league by far

If Iraola is a MotY nominee then O'Neill has to be too! We were in an absolute mess at the start of the season and the Refs have done their worst trying to relegate us! Also that injury table may be technically correct on days lost overall but we lost Cunha AND Hwang at the same time and that coincided with our worst run of the season for obvious reasons!

Sounds like Eddie Howe. European semi yeah but that’s a third tier competition that West Ham won

true but villa was never a relegation side per say. great manager still

Villa’s injury stats also don’t truly reflect their injury issues this season as they don’t include Mings or Buendia since they were never registered for the team. Granted, he had the ability to find loan replacements (Lenglet and Zaniolo), but these replacements took some time and investment to adapt to Emery.

Emery was good for us (AFC) in the initial phase as well, but the drop off afterwards was real. Jury's still out for me.

@@cheeliang_cl You do know emery has now managed more games for villa than he did for arsenal.

so basically injuries are only an excuse if it's NOT united. Right.

⁠@@Drwn4945no just when half the squad were relegation fodder 2 seasons ago and this season they’ve had to deal with the addition of European football for the first time in 20 years. Also when your entire squad is a quarter of the value of Manure’s, or to put another way, our entire back line is worth less than one Harry Maguire 😂😂

Ye but injuries matter regardless of the club...

@@TPHB5011 eddie howe had to use bottom half prem level players because of injuries and managed to get to 6th, ten hag had to use europa league level players because of injuries and could only get to 8th. thats the difference.

Postecoglou in the last 25 games after that initial manager bounce cooled off: 34 pts, -3 goal difference. United same period decimated by injuries for all 25 games: 39 pts +2gd (even after yesterday, yes)

Yeah, if Newcastle get top 6 that’s very very impressive given the difficulties with injuries and the extra games. At the beginning of the season lots of pundits said they expected 6th at best, to do that with a horrendous set of injuries and the Tonali ban shows how good Howe is as a manager, it’s crazy that some Newcastle fans (a very small group though) are unhappy. If the board back him in the summer and the injuries are more normal next season I’d be very surprised if Newcastle don’t get top 4 again.

Newcastles & some other clubs injuries have been well documented in the media,but as a Villa fan I believe our problems with injured players have hardly been mentioned cos Unai Emery never complains about it or uses it as an excuse when results have gone against us, he's just got on with it & given other squad players a chance to prove their worth. Considering we've had key players out all or for big parts of this season the job he has done has been incredible,what a manager he is. 😊⚽👍

@@amlmorris. Every team loses players to injuries but why would a manager use injuries as an excuse when his team has statistically had a below average level of injuries? Newcastle have had over 60% more injuries than Villa. Put that into perspective, for every 10 injuries Villa have had this season Newcastle have had 16-17. I get your point about missing key players but some teams have had it bad in both ways.

@@andrewcharlton6080 compare that against Man Utd, they've had around 60 injuries throughout the season, including key players like Lisandro or Luke Shaw, yet people take it as a no excuse for them... in the past games the only natural center back has been Maguire, and only Eddie Howe gets empathy. There's an extremely positive bias towards Newcastle, very good team, very good manager, but it's ridiculous how much people hate ETH for the sake of being Man Utd's manager.

@@Aeway100 Eddie Howe has been slated at times this season by some fans and the media, really unfairly given the injuries. There was a run of about 6-8 weeks where we only had 12-13 senior players and he was still getting criticised for poor performances. I agree that Man Utd has had nearly as many injuries as Newcastle this season, Newcastle have still played some decent football at times, the reason Newcastle aren’t higher is due to that really awful run of 8 losses in 10 games, that was during that crazy injury run and the players were exhausted with games every 3-4 days. Newcastle had a group of death in Europe and would have come second if not for that awful injury time penalty decision against PSG. In comparison Man Utd have chugged along for most of the season and haven’t really had some of the performances Newcastle have had, they were awful in Europe too in a much weaker group. They’ve had a similar defence but scored far fewer goals and have a poor goal difference. There’s been some disappointing performances for Newcastle but some really good ones too which has helped keep the fans and pundits onside. I think you also need to consider where the 2 teams have come from in the last few years, when Howe took over Newcastle we’re favourites for relegation, we have a small squad which can’t cope with Europe or these injuries yet, half of the current squad were from the Bruce era and were generally considered to be Championship level players a few seasons again. Man Utd have been a European side for decades, ETH has spent as much as Howe and inherited a much better team than Howe did but the squad is arguably worse than it was 3-4 seasons ago, there’s been big money signings like Anthony, Mount and Casemiro that haven’t been good while other players have fallen out with the manager. As a Newcastle fan I can see that the players all enjoy being at the club, they like Howe, Howe for the most part has got the team playing good football and if it wasn’t for a bad spell due to severe injuries we’d be fighting for top 4. The club is still moving in the right direction. A lot of the same can’t be said for Man Utd this season even taking into account the injuries

Yet if united bring our injuries we up we get grilled by the media. United have one cb (a 38 year old Johnny Evan’s) and zero left back.

It's because of the "vibe and eye test" rubes in the comments. "OH can't be dyche... I mean c'mon it's dyche" people

Even as someone who's not a fan of Dyche Ball, what he has done is worthy of the MOTS award, full stop. It's going to be given to either Guardiola or Arteta, when neither would have been able to do what Dyche did. If you want to get the best out of a beat-up Hummer, you don't get the guys who are used to driving Ferraris. They're not worse at all, but it takes a different man for the job. Mr. Dyche, take a bow, sir.

With a squad like that, no chance

With Brighton though it's not just the numbers but the number of key players out and days lost to those key players.

@@timphillips9954Yep, March, Mitoma, Joao Pedro, Estupinian all missing large chunks of the season. At times this season we’ve been without all 3 wingers and all 4 full backs

Or his face on a magnet

Fax

Because the status and reputation of the club is now different. We are essentially a top 8 side not competing for the league - no different to west ham now, and Everton in 2013. In 2013, united were a powerhouse that Moyes wasn’t equipped for. Top 10-4 sides are his level, so would do a job for united now but won’t get them to the top.

@@tobyhellewell5981 no manager in the history of football will ever compete with fergie, Thats your problem. Just like emery at arsenal. Transition periods are incredibly hard to deal with. Even as a top manager.

@@tobyhellewell5981 ten years later and you've still not recovered from fergie

Yes I would put Klopp in the MOTY nominee too.

Also Klopp has had to deal with the PGMOL throwing out SEVERAL "once in a lifetime" screw ups. Liverpool should have a stack of referee apology letters, but they unapologetically do not like him specifically. The team is dead tired now because they had to play multiple games early in the season a man down for the softest red cards of the whole season. You forget Klopp pulled out most of those, and then only lost to totty after one of the worst decisions of the decade for Diaz offside and an unlucky own goal. They won against Newcastle 2 men down, that takes a lot out of a team, and the prem doesn't have a winter break. Klopp rebuilt a midfield, and doesn't have the budget to have enough world class players to deal with those kinds of stressors. If the Doku penalty was given as it ABSOLUTLY should have, Klopp would be manager of the season hands down.

@@evanducker7814 exactly, only thing I would pick up on that is against Newcastle, we were only one man down, that was when Virgil got sent off. The game we were down to 9 men was against Tottenham, which I actually have no issue with either sending off in that game. I have the problem with Luis Diaz being one metre onside and still being called offside and the farce that was VAR that game.

agree

Man Utd have conceded the most shots in the entire PL and they're currently on course for top 3 in PL history. Look at the Expected Points league table and Man Utd are 15th. His tactics simply don't work and he's refusing to change them. I genuinely poor tactically and a bad man manager (see Sancho for example) who wouldn't get into any top half job and would probably struggle to find a mid table PL job now.

​@@ImmuneGEORGEUnited are 6th in terms of goals conceded, with the crazy defence they have had, that's quite good. Last year most clean sheets in the league. So Ten Hag is capable, but just needs the right players/fitness/mentality to succeed.

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Happy for Villa fans and Emery. Gerrard did you guys so dirty. You have a decent amount of solid players

I’m excited for an Ange-picked summer transfer window. Hope Levy backs him and spurs don’t just sign countless extra ‘rotation players’

He definitely does, the Jabroni

I think Iraola is right because Bournemouth have been amazing this season for a team that fought relegation last year. O’Neil has not a had a full squad, wolves have a pretty small squad and at one point had their front three out and resulted in playing 7 defenders and lemina up front.😂

Too much hate for ange based on the last couple of months when we’ve had players drop in form and lineup issues due to injuries. He also hasn’t had a summer transfer window of his own yet so we’ll see how things go next season

Man U does feel like a poisoned chalice atm. Any manager could break their career there.

I totally agree with every word you've said. Thank you for saying it 🙇

yeah, wanted a world class cdm, cudnt get one, made one. Allison out for ages, afcon, trent out for a while, jota out for ages too, The in game changes have been SO clutch, our 2nd halves have been incredible, multiple academy graduates doing wonders, he's had the season we needed to carry on after klopp, regardless of the trophy count.

Exactly he had way lower expectations than Arsenal and Man City, had so many injuries, had to reshape the team and still was almost as good as them

I don’t know anyone who thought they would struggle to get top 4… they spent close to £150m in the summer. He did deal with injuries well though.

@flynn7671 liverpool were awful last season and had to re-sign the entire midfield so I'm sure it wouldn't have suprised many if man utd and Newcastle finished higher again

Klopp did several seasons on the bounce.

Perfectly said!

L O L he had actual money unlike Iraola and Dyche

@@jamesbaurus5928and Pep, Arteta and Emery didn’t have money?

Expectation levels are much different

Newcastle have been playing well but unlucky with a lot of results. Man Utd have been absolutely dreadful all season and based on performances should be below Chelsea

one of these teams has a billion pound squad, and the other was playing with a 17yo in midfield.

@@NorseBoi_saying that like united don’t have the most minutes played by teenagers is so fucking funny

The whole year United's wins have been shrugged at and losses/draws painted like end of the world. Other teams losses are treated like just an off day. Arsenal, Villa, Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, Brighton, Newcastle all been knocked out of cups. Watch them win at Wembley and the silence will be amazing.

I was thinking exactly the same. The middle column makes no sense whatsoever. I think it might be total players that have missed a game through injury at some point this season but not sure.

If arsenal win the league arteta will win it(big if course) if not emery will win,special mention to O'Neil and Ireola

There’s a specific region in Spain where they produce great managers