Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

"The letter (written and spoken word) kills but Spirit (thought and meaning) gives life." GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks. Thus sayeth the LORD: "Truth is simple." Orthodox Christianity does NOT have the "good news" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"), because it strayed far from His words and meaning, following Paul instead. Simply read the "words in red" - ignoring all other words - and you should be able to figure it out for yourself. Paul never states the TRUE "Gospel" (Good News) directly, though he gives hints he might have had a clue what it is. Did he? Why would he keep it secret if he knew? For, it is NOT "sacrifice for sin." Do YOU want to know what the Good News is? I've come to clarify. Click and ye shall find! (I don't receive KZfaq comment notifications, but I'm easy to find.)

@@tomrhodes1629 the good news was the good news of the kingdom of God being at hand, and also the death burial and resurrection of Jesus and how that ties in to it. Paul 100% preached both things, it's beyond the shadow of a doubt. Far far beyond a shadow of a doubt

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

​@@theguyver4934 There is no originals send so therefore nobody named Jesus had to be crucified to cover sins... If you read the Hebrew Bible you realize that Jesus isn't there, and that God wouldn't hold innocent accountable for the guilty... Father said so himself and if you believe that a man was murdered for your sins that you are calling father God a liar!

Or or he could have just told them during his Earthly Ministry. That seems like that would make a little more sense

@robertwatley5249 I doubt it because Paul's teachings conflicted with the apostles. Most of the letters of Paul are negatively about the apostles calling the super apostles, how he rebuked Peter to his face and so on, if only we had Peter's side of the story.

Paul is a test. Who follows Yahusha Vs who follows Paul. Paul and Yahusha preach different gospels.

@@serendipidy Peter an apostle for the Jew

I believe Paul was dealing with a lot of guilt and things he did in the past. That’s why he made up all this things about Jesus and the blood, Justifications etc. You read the gospels everything makes sense, than you read the letter of Paul and you get in to a big mess of confusion of doctrines. You end up with more questions than answers.

​@elielsolis learn how to rightly divide and dispensations. Peter was sent by Jesus to the Jews and Paul was sent by Jesus to the Gentiles. Before Jesus died He was Jewish and under law and works. After Jesus died we live now by grace. Saved by grace through faith. This stuff is simple but stupid rightly dividing and dispensation and you'll see how wrong JT is. He can't help it probably raised catholic or something. Two gospels old covenant new covenant. Jesus wasn't catholic and He never started a state run religion.

@@rickcampanella4254 growing up in church I ve met so many new born believers that are supposedly saved and still sick and depressed and filled with fear. I think Christianity have really misunderstood Jesus and his teachings. Modern Christianity is fake spirituality.

Exactly. When the Israelites left Egypt, even some Egyptians left with them, and the law that was given on mount Sinai was for everyone. And Yah does not change . Paul spread his own gospel. It does not line up with Yahusha's words. Because of Paul, we have so many denominations.

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Carl Grove....I suspect part of the secret of the success of Paul's Gospel is that is served the purposes of Rome in creating a more compliant and easily managed populace.

Take the historical christ out of the equation and it all makes sense

My favourite story from that period is the Bishop who was accused of murder. His reply was, all right, I admit it, I have murdered people. And I'll do the same to anyone who gets in my way!

@@dukegroovy5162 I would say leave Christ in and take Paul out!

did Jesus reveal himself to anyone else the way Paul claims to have experienced him?

@@Dragonfly20233 How about John in the Book of Revelation

@@paulkeniston5699 Not a Rev scholar but I am pretty sure that the vision John had was of Jesus but from the Father at least according to the 1st chapter. I feel this is substantially different from claiming to see a spirit Christ who said he would not return until a specific time.

@@Dragonfly20233 a "spirit" Christ? I don't believe Paul made that exact claim. I believe Paul is describing the Son of God who ascended into heaven and now sits at the Father's right hand.

good question, christians have been following paul's teachings for thousands of years and not Jesus because they don't follow the Jewish Law

My sweet mama used to say this to my grandmother when she would ask why one of us wasn’t in church on Sunday morning ❤ Mama would say, “Mama, I had an ox in the ditch this morning and had to get it out.”

@@suzybailey-koubti8342 I beginning to think Tabor is so buried in the wood he can't see the trees

Paul's gospel is proto-bolshevism. His Roman girlfriend refused him, so Paul dedicated his life to destroying the empire with his bastardized gospel.

"The letter (written and spoken word) kills but Spirit (thought and meaning) gives life." GOD's prophet, the prophesied return of Elijah, speaks. Thus sayeth the LORD: "Truth is simple." Orthodox Christianity does NOT have the "good news" of Yeshua One with Christ ("Jesus Christ"), because it strayed far from His words and meaning, following Paul instead. Simply read the "words in red" - ignoring all other words - and you should be able to figure it out for yourself. Paul never states the TRUE "Gospel" (Good News) directly, though he gives hints he might have had a clue what it is. Did he? Why would he keep it secret if he knew? For, it is NOT "sacrifice for sin." Do YOU want to know what the Good News is? I've come to clarify. Click and ye shall find! (I don't receive KZfaq comment notifications, but I'm easy to find.)

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

If Peter wasn't told to go preach to the gentiles then why is the vision(dream) where God uses the clean and unclean food to teach peter not to separate himself from the Gentiles as well as peter immediately going to the house of the gentiles and having a meal with them and preaching Christ to them and witnessing the Holy Spirit come upon them?

@@Dragonfly20233 There's even more realization now that the gentiles were jews that have not been 'truly' Jew per se but were non Judaism diaspora, except for some like the centurion who believed in the God of Abraham. Romans 11:25, 26 .. we got to read it again and again slowly judging from the context before these verses. Paul was tenured to teach these that they also had access by grace. The whole book is about them. We're supposed to be a by product in their believe.

Bam. Exactly

You need to read Biblical commentary, because according to Christian scholars Paul persecuting Christians didn't happen.

@@lakerstekkenn Christian scholars. I'm not interested in scholars who need to sign a testament of faith in order to get a teaching position. That being said, it is quite possible that Paul didn't in fact persecute christians. After all, the Acts are mostly mythology. But he would've been aware of the Christians for sure.

@@alexlarsen6413The Paul and Peter posible never meet? I’m trying to figure out who this Peter is, is it is the apostol or is some other.

@@javierrocabado8503 What do you mean? If it's something from the video it's been too long, I forgot about it.

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Yeah, Mathew and John were both with Jesus (ultimately a sign of the two witnesses), Not Luke not Paul and most likely mark(based off which gospel you read)

Peter an apostle for the Jew

@@ThetennisDr Just read the parable instead of posting lies...

Yep, there is that Paul too. But the problem is paul is not the level of liar that the author of 2 peter or 2 Timothy is. Paul exhibit the typical ethos f proselyites.

Bravo! Yes, I agree. Paul seems to have been quite narcissistic and would conform to the mentality of the people he was trying to reform. Much like the early Christian church in Rome that changed the calendar and the law of the Sabbath day. And then brought in the Queen of Heaven (Ashtoreth, Diana, Mary, etc) to ensure all pagan religions might be included. Personally, I believe Paul started out with the right heart, but was corrupted along the way. Which is why I do not dismiss all his writings, but I seek guidance from the Holy Spirit to help me understand. All Praise and Glory to Yehowa and His Son, Yehowshowa HaMashiach!!!

That verse in Romans 3 you have taken wildly out of context, just as second Peter predicted. But in your defense just like 2nd Peter says, whoever wrote it, Paul is legitimately confusing sometimes. However that's not an excuse to arrogantly and wantonly portray him incorrectly without even suggesting that you may be wrong! Romans 3 is 100% Paul in diatribe, pretending to speak for the entirety of the Jewish condition vs the Gentile. Hes saying "if we Jews were not faithful to God and yet he stil found a way to be glorify himself through it, to be faithful to his word through it why are we still judged sinners..." Literally one verse later in verse 8 he condemns those people! You think he was speaking about himself then condemning himself a verse later???? What? Sorry if I come off rude. I'm just passionate about Paul. I don't mind people not believing in him, but I do mind when they don't believe in him based on things he never said or thought. At least don't believe him for what he actually says. Keep in mind part of the context of Romans was most likely him trying to help facilitate understanding and good will among the Jewish Christians of Rome who just came back from expulsion and now find that Gentile Christians have taken over. He doesn't want either side to think they're better than the other. And he points out the flaws in both of them, and how they have each played a part in God's redemptive plan for humanity. kzfaq.info/sun/PLPK-75GXTyC3TUrm69So2kNODca3nMXIH 1 Corinthians 9. I love Paul for this. All he's saying is that he's fine with adopting the customs of the people he's with. But he says straight out I'm not lawless, I'm under Jesus Law. So as long as I keep Jesus teaching, I'm free in all else. That's awesome and non prideful and intelligent evangelism. Case in point look at the church today, he succeeded in spreading the message faaar and powerfully. And in 2 Corinthians look at the whole chapter, it's Paul saying "when have u ever cheated you guys? When have I ever tried to make money off of you? Even Timothy who I sent to you never tried that? I love you guys, I'm responsible for you in Jesus, and I hope sinners repent before I come back so I don't grieve" I mean, I just hope you just one more time dedicate some prayer to this and study. Don't believe me. But re seek one more time.

@@pichiikeen7977 I am so sad to hear how many people throw Paul away based on misunderstandings. Something that 2nd Peter, whoever the author was, warns against! You think God accidentally let Paul be half the New Testament?? He's just hard to understand sometimes, not a liar or a fake or deceived??? Romans being probably by far his hardest letter. Please see "Biblical Unitarians" for a better understanding of Paul. kzfaq.info/sun/PLPK-75GXTyC3TUrm69So2kNODca3nMXIH

@@youngknowledgeseeker 2 Peter is obviously psuedoepigraphy and poor quality at that. I mean the fact the 2 Peter is denouncing those that seek to pervert the teachings is the irony or ironies. Learn to think of these text critically begore swallowing the koolaid. Paul is saying what he's doing and frankly he lied to Yacov, he is also trying to convert Jews as well as Gentiles and it is making the Jews fuming mad at him. In my opinion this did get back to Jerusalem and in 62 AD Yacov paid the price for Pauls lies. Having said that is what Paul's doing and saying apriori bad. The whole concept of greek philosophy is to take the facts and use the rhetorical tools to argue for one point, then take the same facts and tools and argue for the opposite. The fact that some people take this too seriously is a sign of immaturity. But as we know, when it comes to religion there are taboos, and dissecting the peity rules of Judaism and then seeking feed this back too Jews as an acceptable Judaism is a slap in the face. We have to get into what the peity rules are. They are not telling you how to fetch water out of a river or breath while you sleep. They are a set of instructions the followers believe will gather to the community good fortune if they are followed and demand sacrifice and extraordinary cleansing if they are not. IOW, teaching Jews to break piety rules is akin to wishing bad luck on all Jews, and is costly to the well being of Jews. More to the point if a person was anti-herodian (and i suspect 75% of Jews were), leading Jews to sin ultimately benefitted the Herodians since the sinner or his family would need to increase the sacrifice at the temple to compensate. That quarter of the gentiles was a big profit maker to Herodians and Romans. I know these beliefs are superstitions, but none the less you cannot be Jew and not be superstitous so . . . . Again, if we could get all 1st century greco romans to spontaneously give up all suoerstitious behaviors then of course Jewish peity rules woukd look stammeringly stupid. 2000 years later people are still following lots of superstitions and one set of superstitions they are following is Pauls. So arguing that its ok for Paul to get rid of some superstitions for christians but then add his own brand spanking new superstitions is just hypocrisy.

The Messiah prophesied the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, down to the details of the stones being thrown into the ocean later by Alexander the Great

@@historysmysteriesunveiled8043 -Alexander the Great died in India in June of 323 BCE -how could Alexander have anything to do with the Roman destruction of Jerusalem during the 1st Fail’d Jewish War Against Rome (66-74 CE) ? If R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean (c BCE 12-36 CE) made any predictions about the fall of Jerusalem (or the destruction of Kaphar-Nahum or Genesseret or other Galilean villages such as Khorazim etc) it would most likely have been a very generic pronouncement such as ‘if they don’t return to the Torah of Mosheh & the Testimony of the Prophets, a worse fate than Sodom awaits them…’ so I’m not sure of the point you’re trying to make here…do you even have one ?

Well it was not palestine in the days of jesus and his followers it was palestine after the temple mount was destroyed and the inhabitants went throw a genocide , so as Rome was a colonialist empire so was Christianity , a cultural colonialism of the land , and when Mathew / Zephaniah said - the poor will inherit the land what is he talking about? ebionites in hebrew means the poor ones, so is he talking about a sect or about an economic statues? Cause they did say that jesus was the masiha , but that the laws of the tora must be kept as well, so they are all gone by now , the Church saw them as heretics , they disappeared from the face of the earth, still you can go to an ultra orthodox rabbi, he can be extremely rich but the appearance they project is as one that is poor . .for example, they can live in a tiny apartment , the walls are cracking , they live a christian monk life style and they are surrounded not just by a hundred offspring they might have but by a community they rule like a king would.they are Almost worshiped as gods. So go figure where it all started and when will it end

@@Shai-eg6ew actually Filistin / Palestine was referr’d to as such [Palaistine] the land between Phoenicia & Egypt which is part of the larger district of Syria’ as early as Herodotus c. 470 BCE and we do have inscriptions from Egyptian hieroglyphics as early as 1120 BCE referring to ‘Peleset’ as the same regions along the coast of what is to-day the area just north of Gaza…and Assyrian cuneiform inscriptions refer to the region as Palestu-so enough can be shewn that the name is ancient enough -although I was merely making a very broad geographical reference to Judea where Yakkov bar Yosef haTzaddiq seems to have reign’d ‘as Meqabber of the Camp at Yerushalayim from 36-62 CE, possibly with a reference to the book of Daniel chapter 12 which mentions ‘blessed is he who awaits the 1335 days’ [James’ reign as a Daviddic king could be symbolically seen as 1,335 weeks i.e. 25 1/2 years) … As for ‘the Evionim shall inherit the land of Yisroel in the last days’ which can be found in Psalm 37:11 [= Vulgate Psalm 36:11] and echoed in Matthew 5:5 as part of the so-call’d Sermon on the Mount (where Jesus is depicted by the final editor of that gospel as imparting the ‘new law’ to the ‘new Israel’ from, significantly, a mountain-top…) is an oblique reference to the Assyrian exile of the elite, priestly & metal-worker class (basically anyone who could foster a counter rebellion) of the 10 northern Yisroelitish tribelets (722-701 BCE whose population was ‘replaced’ by ‘good Ashur-worshipping obedient Assyrian citizens’, who never came back to Palestine) with ‘only the poorest of the land allow’d to remain to till the soil’ & the same process took place 150 years later (c. 601-586 BCE) in Judaea during the so-call’d Babylonian Exile of the same classes of people where only the poorest of the poor were allow’d to remain in place to till the land and run the port systems… So for post Exilic writers such as the author of Psalm 37 it must have seem’d as if the ‘evionim’ had a special place in YHWH’s heart to be able to remain in situ-the implication being that the ‘poor ones’ (ebionites, or what the Dead Sea scroll zadokites sometimes referred to themselves as…) which was a group associated with Jesus’ brother James the Just/Righteous and John the Baptist whose members apparently lived communistically with a shar’d common purse- possibly a Daviddic carryover from such old testament late Torah post-Exilic laws as ‘the King shall not multiply horses or wives’ that we see e.g. in Deuteronomy 17:16 etc. which might have restricted any wannabe Daviddic ruler from being ‘too wealthy above his peers’ etc. Clear as mud? Try to research your subject a little deeper before spouting off spurious assertions that have little or no basis in fact next time-if you would please…

@@theophilos0910 I can not read that much. I am second level autistic person so they say, sorry. Philistines פלשתים. Is a biblical hebrew word it means invaders. So the bible is telling us where they came from. The island of kaftor, כפתור. That is probably . Crete. The Palestines were the worst enemies. Well or a very persistance one, they lived in the south shoreline of Israel today and in Gaza strip. That was the land they invaded according to the scripts. And the Romans renamed the land as well as the coty of jerusalem to alea capitolina. Or Google it, that is a cultural colonialism. They destroyed the land renamed it , called themselves the true Israel, they blamed the jews for killing jesus , they renamed the name of the empire to the holy Roman empire, they destroyed the temple , the word of god is from rome now etc etc.

Peter an apostle for the Jew

_The Way_ or in Greek *ἡ ὁδός* (Acts 24:14) probably coming from Isaiah 40:3, "prepare the way of the Lord."

I think they were just called followers of Yahusha. The word Christianity is only found in the writings of fake apostle number 13 Paul.

@serendipidy well said, but I also doubt half the things that are claimed Paul wrote were even his writing either. The early church authorities burned or changed any early writings that didn't suit or fit their agenda!

@@ohfft problem is the writings don't align with Yahusha's teachings. Maybe there is some nice guy named Paul somewhere and someone used his name. Sad thing is the writings were put into the Bible while the other books were taken out. Books like Jasher (who talk about Adrenochrome and the elite) or Jubilees or Enoch or the Apocrypha. No wonder they got "scholars" to discredit those books and hype up Paul. All part of the deception.

@serendipidy I agree with you 100% even the words and terms christi-anity has used proves this, so any decernihg person who has the ability to think for themselves can actually see it is a complete shame that christi-anity actually just follows the same paganism theological concepts of man god. In Genesis, it clearly states, "Now mankind has become like gods, to know good and evil." So it's no surprise that one of humanities goals as an arrogant nation is to try to reach heaven or eternal life of its own accord. As seen in the Babylon story, or in our modern times attempting to reach the stars, or the manipulation dna to change life or attempt to improve it, to unlock the puzzle of how life is designed, without ever even giving credit that A Higher Power has clearly designed life to run its own course as it was intended. This English term Christ christians use, actually means blessed, or from its root to shine, or stand out. Prophets who were holy (blessed from above) given a deeper insight into the way life should be lived, who had refound that true connection with Our Creator, by religning themselves with the greater truth of life, stood out or shined, so that everyone could see to follow them back onto life's straight path, but by diverting this concept completely and making one great untouchable man god. Giving him a false name that is disconnected from his true mission. Then, allowing demi, gods such as priests, bishops, and pastors to dictate what and how people should think about their connection with creation, this becomes the greatest disconnection from finding life's true value. No shining lights left to follow. Instead, media places fake examples of the sexiest girls that lead both men and women into a path of lust and vanity. Sports players become children's idols to look up to, aligning what they are selling with their identities, replacing higher morals for the fake names and images of Greek gods of long ago like Nike, or Adidas. Instead of taking the time to contemplate why life is what it is, humanity has been railroaded to chase manom the love of money, thinking of life in terms of resources, not considering for one second that The True Creator of our universe is actually stil behind everything, holding it in place for a special reason, one that allows those blessed chosen ones the time to come back to Him and also shine. Instead, Christi-anity using this fake shiny name has diverted people away from this, allowing these double contradictory fake manmade worlds to exist. Exactly what is referred to in the term Baal, setting up a fake altar, an alternate reality that humanity has been misplaced from its proper respect for the gift life. Humanity has no shine left, no true values, no higher purpose, it has become the great evil, that it was prophesied it would always end up as. When these evil sins developed fully. The great mythical monster, christi-anity and the other evil pagan principles our modern world is established on that dominate every aspect of human life and those greater life decisions being made by those dictating how life must now be, take us all down to Sheol.

That verse is from Matthew, where at the end Jesus does say go to the Gentiles though? Why read Matthew 15:24 but then ignore Matthew 28:18-20?

Peter an apostle for the Jew

Of course not, Muhammad, Jesus and The Buddha were the most influentials

Agreed, and notice James says all we require of them are those four things from the law, not becoming Jews! Not holy days, not kosher laws, not circumcision. Just those 4 things if fellowship between Jews and Genitles are going to co-mingle and become one in christ. Please understand the verdict wasn't do these four things until you become Jews and keep the law, it's do these four things since we have no choice but to commingle because there are synagogues everywhere. But of course don't believe me, do your own prayer.

@@youngknowledgeseeker thank you for your reply. However, if you notice in Acts 20: 6 through 16 you will see the Apostle Paul and the other disciples still observing the Feasts of Yahweh as well as the seventh day Sabbath. You will have to read verse 7 in the Greek and in the context of the Feasts described in verse 6 and 16 and know about how the feast are interrelated (see Lev.23). Also remember that acts 20 is about 25 years after the Ascension of Yeshua, Paul has already written his theological books of Galatians and Romans and what are they still doing? They're not only keeping the Feast of Yahweh but they're also keeping the seventh day Sabbath. Paul is doing the very same things that Yeshua his Messiah was doing and teaching. Yeshua was a Torah observant Torah teaching rabbi and we are to walk even as he walked.

@@michaelsmith9453 Yes Mr.Smith, because they were Jews. Paul NEVER told Jews to stop being Jewish. His concern was with Gentiles thinking they needed to become Jewish. According to Acts James, Peter, Paul and Holy Spirit determined, no. They only need to obey Christs teachings and, so fellowship can be facilitated (since the prime meeting spot for Christians was synagogues at first) they should at least keep these 4 things. Good observation about Galatians, however the only thing I would add is that Paul is not speaking to Jews there. He's speaking to gentiles, and ones he himself converted no less. In Acts 20 remember what got Paul unfortunately killed is that *Jews* thought he was telling *Jews* to not keep the law anymore. James response is that "let's show them thats obviously false". Theres more I could say. But typing is burdensome.

Jesus isn't God in Paul. After Paul, John says Jesus is God.

​@johnstewart7025 when ever ever ever did I even come close to saying Jesus is God??? No New Testament author even comes close to thinking Jesus is God. Not even John, not even once. Not even close.

Actually, it is a position that I had held before I came across DeCosta, but he articulates the position very well imho, although I would not agree with his Preterism.