Making a Joystick from a trash-picked Cash Box

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I'm converting a trash-picked steel cash box into an arcade-like retro joystick!
Arcade joystick kit*:
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Step Drill*:
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Standard Atari joystick pinout (works for a lot of non-Atari devices, too):
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
2:04 Trash-picked cash box
4:29 Joystick layout
9:13 Drilling some holes
14:05 Mounting the components
18:59 Wiring things up
31:31 Testing!
33:30 Thank you & Good night
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@locnar1701 2 жыл бұрын

Key box, not a cash box... one key for all the keys, a password manager for maintenance...

@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Makes sense, didn’t realize that (as is obvious)! Sorry. 😅

@madmodders 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes, and the sticker is also giving it away. "Includes 50 free key fobs". 😁

@SelfIndulgentGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Saved me saying it :D

@TzOk 2 жыл бұрын

They are used in office buildings at the duty offices to keep keys to all office rooms, or in the car workshops.

@Error42_ 2 жыл бұрын

So if we built a keyboard into one of these, would it still be a key box? 🤔

@leojrgensen2819 2 жыл бұрын

Well, put in a pie and make it into a RetroPie box, that can also be used as a regular joystick. Nice build this time Jan. 👍

@lindoran 2 жыл бұрын

I had been using small wooden boxes from a craft store but a cash box is a really good idea for a project enclosure

@guyh3403 2 жыл бұрын

12:41 That's an amazing thumbnail right there ;) Thanks Jan for this awesome video!

@LeoA2600 2 жыл бұрын

You might want to consider replacing the restrictor plate on the joystick (The clear plastic thing that restricts the stick's movement at the base). The square style like came installed is meant for fighting games. Octagonal is generally desirable for most other stuff like classic games, making it easier to not accidentally trigger a diagonal. As an example, picture your test game here River Raid. You're going through a tight channel in the river and pull back on the stick to navigate it slowly. With the square gate, it's really easy as you're pushing the stick back to accidentally trigger a diagonal input and send your jet careening into the cliffside. With octagonal, you're physically able to feel that you're only triggering down.

@RetroBoxRoom 2 жыл бұрын

The generic name is a Lockbox. Though, the hooks in that one, makes it a Key box. (The holes in the back are for wall mounting, not for feet) It's a nice looking joystick! Great work as always!

@naderhumood1199 2 жыл бұрын

Waw.... human ingenuity.... Thanks v much Mr Beta.great job Great Germany 🇩🇪

@lindoran 2 жыл бұрын

Classic Jan, puts goggles on in last 2 minutes of drilling no gloves / vice like a boss

@bitoxic 2 жыл бұрын

12:39 Great Smile Jan Beta! 😃👍

@JesperSevel 2 жыл бұрын

Why not go all the way, and make it an independent an dedicated arcade machine by putting a raspberry pi inside? And maybe also make place for the power supply and extension cabels inside so you just have to open it, take the power supply and needed cables out, connect the arcade PC and TV and you are ready to play! ... Heck! Why not also a suitcase handle, so it is easy to take with you on the go! ...YES it will be a bigger project! But an AWESOME ONE! 😃👍

@CheshireNoir 2 жыл бұрын

OMG so many ideas! Autofire button. An "up" button for all those games that use "up" for "jump", Possibly a "down" button for the handful of games that use "down" for an action (Looking at you, starquake). A slowstep button (Basically just an autofire circuit on all directions, so when you hold the button, rather than being held down, the direction is pulsed/stepped). Powerpad buttons (for Atari 800 series). Buttons 2 and 3 for Amstrad series. Port for Amstrad player 2. Too many idea? Yeah I hear you.

@TheBurk1989 2 жыл бұрын

I made myself a joystick for my C64 and Amiga out of cheapo arcade clone parts a couple of years ago too. I added two buttons on mine, one for Fire and the other is wired to Up so it can act as a jump button. I also added a switch on the back that changes the second button from Up to Secondary Fire for those Amiga games that supports it like Turrican. In hindsight I maybe should've added a third button so I could have both a jump button and fire 2 at the same time, but it works well enough as it is. Nice work Jan!

@Melechtna 2 жыл бұрын

Actually yes, I would say this has inspired me to do a project like this. I've actually already gone through and parted everything out, plan to use wood, and lacquer it, and will likely use a teensy to wire it up and probably just make it pretend to be a 360 controller for a basic "universal compatibility"

@haysoos123 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty fun project! I think you know what buttons to add in the future, since that box has so much room: a button that's wired to "up" for jump, and a separate autofire button, maybe a knob for varying the rate. For Amiga, make a switch to toggle the jump button to be the secondary fire. that would be the ultimate retro stick.

@smilespray 2 жыл бұрын

Great project! Suggestions: - A piece of heavy steel fastened to the inside bottom to add weight -Sound-insulating foam to reduce the hollow sound -Solid rubber feet

@Retrocatone 2 жыл бұрын

Another fun project! Very nice result, some drill action again, a very chill video

@MatthewPegg 2 жыл бұрын

I made something similar. For the cable I just put a 9Pin male female connector on the joystick box , I can plug in an extension like cable to the the joystick and the computer. It means I can still use my extension cable for others things. The cable is just a couple IDC press-fit connectors with ribbon wire, works well.

@BilisNegra 2 жыл бұрын

Well, in some way this is a Monster Joystick... if you think of Frankenstein, that is. I really like this project. Being cheap ass but also an ingenious idea, it's right down my alley, if only I found a similar box...

@josefjelinek 2 жыл бұрын

I would probably make the cable removable by mounting some round connector (maybe DIN for easy hole drilling) and put the counterpart on the cable, that way you can just unplug and lock the cable inside for storage :). Also usually the stick is mounted 90 degrees rotated, so you can fit more buttons next to it, but that is probably not worth redoing now....

@michaelcarey 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Jan. Fantastic repurposing of a nice sturdy metal enclosure.

@mountainpeakonline 2 жыл бұрын

Another successful project. Thank you Jan for a very interesting video.

@Colin_Ames 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work. A joystick is one of the projects on my to-do list, and this video might just be the kick in the arse I need to get started.

@BrainSlugs83 2 жыл бұрын

Cool project; pro-tip: you can remove the metal plate from the joystick and use the inner four screws for mounting instead; this is useful because the plastic washer the covers the hole, also covers those screws up, and you don't have extra screws visible on the thin surface (or rubbing on your hands, etc.). 😉

@zanem7eww 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great idea - you've definitely inspired me to put something together - I even remember seeing a key-box in a charity shop the other day 🤔

@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын

Yay! I can only recommend it. As I said in the video, I'm used to putting joysticks in my lap while I'm playing games so the key-box is kind of an ideal form factor. Also obviously rock solid. :D

@peteregan9750 2 жыл бұрын

you could get an A4 perspex and make holes to lay over the top, JS center / buttons, will make you hand slide easier without damage. you can also get a cheap key as they have a number on lock and is fairly standard.

@giuseppelavecchia775 2 жыл бұрын

Mi piace molto che hai usato per il joystick un box grande,ha spazio per futuri upgrade.un gran lavoro JAN

@davidmetlesits972 2 жыл бұрын

Great minds think alike, Jan! I made my joystick from the same entry level joystick kit, but the housing is a plastic project box. I made mine with a detatchable cable, using a DSUB-9 connector and a PC serial cable

@wimwiddershins 2 жыл бұрын

That steel box makes a nice solid joystick case. Always wear your safety specs when drilling steel, Jan. :) If it's made in England, it should've caught fire by now. ;P

@Dave5281968 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Great form factor for a retro arcade joystick. The best part is you get a new joystick by recycling some old parts and mixing with some new parts: The proper way to go retro!

@CPU_6502 2 жыл бұрын

Cool!!! Gute Idee! Beim nächsten Flohmarkt werde ich nach einem Metallkasten suchen 😂

@HeyBirt 2 жыл бұрын

A Jan Beta video where there is no chaos and destruction when using the drill? I feel cheated! :) Seriously though that made a nice-looking joystick.

@MAE-lc9ee 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing the auto fire circuit.

@sirknumbskull3418 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and best wishes!

@MS-ho9wq Жыл бұрын

Dude, you could get one of those cylinder key locks like on arcade machines for that authentic feel! It would probably fit in that aperture. But I know that would be overkill 😅

@NeoMK27 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job and a great use of parts. I made my own arcade stick last year with leaf buttons and a bat stick. Makes all the difference.

@DavePoo2 2 жыл бұрын

You could wire in a another button that is actually wired to "up", to use on all the C64 and Amiga games that use up as jump

@TPau65 2 жыл бұрын

Turned out really nice! It reminds of my "Competition Pro Board" (search in my channel as I am most likely not allowed to post YT links) from the 80's, which I slightly upgraded a year ago. 😁 As you have plenty of room, an adjustable auto fire (as I have in my Board) is the next logical step. A link to a diagram for this is in the video description of my "Board" video. It's not as trivial as you might think. ^^ Keep in mind that you need a new cable with +5V (Pin 7) connected! Maybe a paddle controller is an option, too. Not sure, how this will work. Maybe Pin 5 is used for that. And which games do support this. 🤔

@TPau65 2 жыл бұрын

Let's try it anyhow: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8WBi915x8-yYHk.html 😉

@gower1973 2 жыл бұрын

It’s big enough to make a full arcade emulation box!

@pcroom34 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant, And I'll be making my own soon hopefully with Auto-Fire and select and Paddles (rotary knobs). You say you made mistakes along the way, wiring through the case when you should of tested it first, not adding the second wire for the 2nd fire button, I think I would of done the same, Perfect video, JUST AWESOME!!

@JanBeta Жыл бұрын

Nice! I recommend watching my second video about this build where I make a very cool old school auto fire circuit for it. ;)

@pcroom34 Жыл бұрын

@@JanBeta Thanks for replying back so soon, Apparantly paddles is only really available with Atari 2600 and not Spectrum because of I think the analogue signal, but Auto Fire and 2 buttons should be ok.

@talesfromthejundlandwastes5498 2 жыл бұрын

Nice little project!

@stephanemignot100 2 жыл бұрын

I would have linked a second button to the "Up" switch of the stick, I hate to jump with the the stick!

@c64customs 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice build, rock solid and it will definitely outlast humanity if we keep doing what we are doing right now 😆 Kudos for the metal work 👍, that would be a major motivation killer for me 😂

@kenknight5983 2 жыл бұрын

Now make a trackball controller for Marble Madness

@varganyamuvek 7 ай бұрын

Everyone love that game, I can tell you

@kevinchaddock8557 2 жыл бұрын

Key box, but excellent idea!!

@JVHShack 2 жыл бұрын

$19 for a nice joystick kit and be able to include my Atari to Apple joystick converter and also be able to use parts from a broken Apple to PC joystick that I have all inside a metal box which has been floating around for the past 2 years? Sounds like a nice weekend project!

@diegobudavari3943 2 жыл бұрын

Great project! I did a similar one myself a few years ago with an aluminum box. Can’t wait to see how you upgrade it with autofire so that i can upgrade mine too 🙂

@cmdrYzemaN 2 жыл бұрын

Neat! I bought a couple of arcade joystick sets like this one last year. Still haven't gotten around to actually make the joysticks, but maybe this will inspire me :)

@ralfr.5974 2 жыл бұрын

I miss the Turrican Function Test!! 😉

@monchiabbad 2 жыл бұрын

You could also replace the key with an old pc-keyswitch and us it to enable/disable autofire.

@ConsolesRetro 2 жыл бұрын

Bien joué! Et propre ✌️🕹

@LeftoverBeefcake 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see with all the practice you've had in the past with power drills, there were no #JanBetaWasHere moments! Congratulations! ;) Some suggestions of what NOT to put in/on the joystick: - fancy RGB lighting - crazy powerful vibration motors - vents and fans to cool your hand for long play sessions - multiple OLED screens

@RCSRetro 2 жыл бұрын

The holes on the back are for wall mounting it (not for feet) as it is designed to be attached to a wall and then hang keys in it.

@elrasho24 2 жыл бұрын

I liked this video

@opticaltrace4382 2 жыл бұрын

It's a key safe. I don't understand why you didn't just daisy chain all the commons together. It would be neater, use less wire. You also said it doesn't matter what connection you use on the switches but it does. You must use NO (normally open)

@ritchiemastemaker1139 2 жыл бұрын

Hi , i liked youre video. But i would reccomend extra buttons for rappid fire e.g. . And a paralel 9 pin out for peddels. I think in box wil be a little bit much on the box it selve. Thank you for all your informative video's

@Error42_ 2 жыл бұрын

12:40 🥽😎👍 made me laugh

@ogami1972 2 жыл бұрын

For what it's worth, I have had amazing service and products from the company "EG Starts" that also make 1 and 2 player sanwa-clone kits

@markdjdeenix6846 2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s a key safe jan 😎looks cool you could maybe line the inside of the box with that white packing foam It will quiet it down a bit I think

@chloedevereaux1801 2 жыл бұрын

thats a key safe... it mounts on a wall, i had one in my shop :D

@kattan2006 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice. BTW this is a key box not a money box

@joebruno2675 2 жыл бұрын

How about a removable cable connection? So if the wire gets damaged you can just plug another one in.

@varganyamuvek 7 ай бұрын

Sounds good!

@karisalonen8984 2 жыл бұрын

Jan, safety 3rd 😉

@NicuProiecteH 2 жыл бұрын

Dear sir video very good for us. But please help me with two types of SMD. which I can't find in the catalog. 34DG and L44. I don't know what they are! Transistors or diodes. I'm waiting for your answer, if you're good and want to help me. Thank you so much!

@tomleech9753 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually probably a tag box. So you know when someone is inside a piece of large machinery/factory so you don't turn it on until all the tags are turned in.

@alerey4363 2 жыл бұрын

For some games like hyper sports having an armored metal joystick is a must!

@Somelucky 2 жыл бұрын

For me it was Boot Camp (Combat School) that killed most of my joysticks.

@alerey4363 2 жыл бұрын

@@Somelucky yes, another one in the same category

@TheErador 2 жыл бұрын

Splinters of metal are known as 'swarf'.

@monchiabbad 2 жыл бұрын

Add some rubber to the surface, the metal will suck all the warmth of your hands.

@gertsy2000 2 жыл бұрын

Cash box it is in Australia and US.

@supermodernotv 2 жыл бұрын

you need an Arduino to add a USB interface. Let me know where we can ship it :)

@afaelr 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about making an Bluetooth atari 2600 stick using arcade parts and an esp32 to play on mister

@FrankColonier64 2 жыл бұрын

Sowas bräuchte ich für den PC mit USB-Anschluss für meine MAME-Roms. Muss aber alles nicht unbedingt vom günstigsten Hersteller sein. Vllt hast du ja einen guten Kauf-Tipp.

@DumahBrazorf 2 жыл бұрын

If you drilled the cable hole on the top half of the box it would have needed less effort to wiring it up.

@ReverendLinc 2 жыл бұрын

Key lock box.

@neakmenter 2 жыл бұрын

Raspberry pi inside!!!!

@alexcochrane1966 2 жыл бұрын

Safety is no 1 priority.

@tenminutetokyo2643 2 жыл бұрын

DOOD!

@diddelmausfx1839 2 жыл бұрын

Hallo Jan, Ich schaue mir seit längeren deine Videos und es klar, das der Englische User bedient werden soll, aber warum nicht auch mal Deutsch, ich bin leider dem Englischen nicht so Angewandt aber versuche mitzukommen. gerade im Bereich des C64, 128er gibt es zwar einige in Deutsch aber was einen wirklich interessiert ist in Englisch, eigentlich Schade, da KZfaq alles Konserviert. Vielleicht hast du mal ein herz für die Deutschen User und bedienst sie auch, aber ich glaube nicht daran da deine Zeit hierfür nicht reicht. In diesem Sinne Tolles Video Matze

@ofoehr 2 жыл бұрын

Schlüsselkasten :-)

@fabianfarina2208 2 жыл бұрын

Trash to treasure

@gnurken 2 жыл бұрын

Instead of screwing the joystick I think I would had tried to weld it.

@force4200 2 жыл бұрын

Love your channel but i think its a key box ;)

@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I didn’t realize… 😅

@RCSRetro 2 жыл бұрын

It is a key safe, not a cash box.

@braveitor 2 жыл бұрын

Worst joystick design ever! I'd love to see you trying to jump and shoot while moving at the same time. ;) Nice project, tho. :)

@volo870 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty bulky and useless. Only one button, no MSX support, HUGE case... Uncomfortable. Thanks, but no, thanks.

@JanBeta 2 жыл бұрын

I build it according to my preferences (as I said repeatedly in the video). Feel free to build something different. Also, it actually IS MSX compatible at this point, just lacking the second joystick button (which is something I plan on implementing in the future, possibly switchable for different systems).

@NicuProiecteH 2 жыл бұрын