Japan's Sherman Hunter, the Chi-Ri | Cursed by Design
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When most people think of Japanese tanks from the second world war it's quite similar to their reaction to Italian tanks of that period. Small, underpowered tanks with weak armaments incapable of competing against the vehicles fielded by other nations. In most cases this would be true, but towards the end of the war the Japanese began multiple projects in an attempt to combat the allied armor. In future videos we will discuss all of these projects but for today's episode we’ll be taking a look at the story of the Type 5 Chi-Ri.
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@ConeOfArc 3 жыл бұрын
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@noahezer9295 3 жыл бұрын
Plsss next video be the MBT 70 okay😊🙏🙏
@romanthenumeral9497 3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah id love to learn more about the mbt70
@novanchiem4643 3 жыл бұрын
U tell the Chi-Ri is the sherman hunter but still don't have enough armor to defend itself from the sherman :v
@Bias5 3 жыл бұрын
Do chi nu please!
@ognjenstepanovic3121 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do the Novi Sad sherman.
@fabovondestory 3 жыл бұрын
Italy: I got the worst tanks! Japan: No, I got the worst tank! China: You guys got tanks?
@leutnantin408 3 жыл бұрын
At least they got German panzer I lol
@ilovepanzer3930 3 жыл бұрын
Whelp pz.I with two dp-28s if those are even tanks
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovepanzer3930 I don’t believe they are tanks. If it’s only mgs then it would be considered a Tankette
@ilovepanzer3930 3 жыл бұрын
@@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 well the communists do have some captured Japanese tanks but we the R.O.C only have those pz.1s which aren’t even pz.Is and maybe some outdated m60s nowadays... Yeah talk about fighting back to the mainland.My life is a joke
@mrducky179 3 жыл бұрын
@@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 im sure tankettes are classified by weight and not their armament
@galladesamurai2380 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Chi-Ri is about the same size as the Tiger ll Let that sink in for a moment
@daruween1398 3 жыл бұрын
oh god oh fuck
@norad_clips 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, sink into the mud
@sinthoras1306 3 жыл бұрын
*HOLY MASSIVE MOLY* if Seen the Tiger II in reality, how, how could they have produced a Tank this big, whit armor and armament this weak.
@RG-fc7ht 3 жыл бұрын
@@sinthoras1306 Because the IJN ate up all the budget and resources which with the whole debacle of the battle of midway and beyond. Not a lot of resources for tanks or really anything.
@troutwarrior6735 3 жыл бұрын
But it only has 75mm of non sloped armor! WTF!
@whirving 3 жыл бұрын
A crappy tank is a monster when there are no tanks or guns to oppose it. The Imperial Japanese army were brilliant about getting their "crappy" tanks into the fight. They were pretty effective in Burma and the Philippines early on.
@forbeshutton5487 3 жыл бұрын
The ability to use tanks was very limited in the Pacific. Roads and railroad tracks were often the only way to move them between mountains, jungles, swamps, etc, and that would make them easy prey for air or artillery attack. The smaller bridges along the roads and railways also meant that even the "best" routes for the tacks were unusable without major engineering. Add in the logistics of island fighting, getting tanks ashore, even at major ports was a problem, but it would take huge amounts of resources to keep a tank moving on the offence ( a tank could consume about half what a small landing craft would carry just in fuel in a day, then you have to get it from the shore to the tank...). On defense, which Japan was by the time these tanks were being considered, bunkers take a fraction of the manpower and resources to construct and require nothing more over time.
@oldfrend 2 жыл бұрын
@@forbeshutton5487 the japanese investing in tanks was pretty pointless in the pacific campaign, particularly fighting a defensive war severely short on raw materials. they were probably better off investing in light anti-tank guns and rockets, and lots of them. but generals inevitably have their glory projects, come hell or high water. and hell came.
@Jordan-Ramses 2 жыл бұрын
That should be the plan. Tanks are cavalry. If they're stuck in a fixed battle you aren't using them correctly. Using them as expensive artillery is sub optimal. Or like the Soviets. Drive them directly into artillery fire and expect them to win somehow.
@randyhavard6084 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, their crappy tanks really did a number on those Chinese peasants too
@madensmith7014 Жыл бұрын
This is all true except that the "crappy" tanks were designed for China and were more effective there than the Pacific
@Jowjoejoe 3 жыл бұрын
"People think that Japanese tanks are incapable, which in most case is true" Cries in Chinese bought panzer 1 and 2
@Jowjoejoe 3 жыл бұрын
@Kingston Wang I'm pretty sure they traded raw material with Germany before WW2. There is hundreds of pictures of Chinese troops in german gear down to the gas masks.
@filmandfirearms 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jowjoejoe Germany had a lot of military advisors deployed to China, and gave them a lot of equipment because they were fighting the communists
@Jowjoejoe 3 жыл бұрын
"In August 1934, the Treaty for the Exchange of Chinese Raw Materials and Agricultural Products of German Industrial and Other Products was signed in which China would trade strategically important raw material for German industrial products and development. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-German_cooperation_(1926%E2%80%931941)#German_aid_to_industrialization_of_China
@Jowjoejoe 3 жыл бұрын
@Kingston Wang May I remind you that before the industrial revolution China was the biggest economy in the world? They have a bunch of resources which is what led to all those invasions.
@Jowjoejoe 3 жыл бұрын
@Kingston Wang Industrial capability and resources are not the same thing...
@johnhughes2653 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that one of the reasons that Japanese tanks tended to be so small and lightly armoured was the fact that their planned expansion involved a lot of island hopping. Therefore, the tanks needed to be easily transported by ship & landing craft. Additionally, there is the fact that a lot of jungle warfare would be expected, so smaller tanks would have an advantage in negotiating roads that were little more that dirt paths through dense jungle.
@galil_6863 7 ай бұрын
But the Chi-Ri was the size of a Tiger II...
@Jo2h_ 3 жыл бұрын
Guys this tank is actually goated
@thecomradetrotsky 3 жыл бұрын
It can't be :0
@strafe8866 3 жыл бұрын
In war thunder
@Holyw1n 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Not sure in real life But in WOT it’s Cool
@EukalyptusBonBon 3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore in WT :(
@Tameshi-hd1qk 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese tank type-95 Ha-Go - type-5 Chi-Ri Have Low Armor
@Arthion 3 жыл бұрын
Well, one of things I like about Japanese tank design is that once high command realised they needed something new and sent some actual funding down to R&D after having knee-capped it almost a decade earlier the advancements came at a very high rate. Even the Type 4 Chi-To is actually pretty decent if only 'too little, too late'. Edit: Also unfortunate that the US scrapped it. It'd made a pretty cool museum piece.
@Ribbon_13 3 жыл бұрын
I forget what exact tank it is but I met a guy who owned a tank collection and he had a Japanese tank. While he was restoring it they kept punching wholes through the armor trying to fix the bullet holes. He ended up taking a piece to a metallurgy expert and found out that parts of the tank were made of nickle
@Mr-Trox 3 жыл бұрын
It was probably the Ha-Go or Chi-Ha, those were the most common Japanese tanks. I think I remember seeing a picture of a knocked out Chi-Ha being strapped to the engine of an M4 Sherman. It looked so ridiculous.
@Ribbon_13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-Trox looked it up, it was a Ha-Go
@erzhaider 2 жыл бұрын
What parts were made of nickel? Structural parts not affected by direct gunfire or parts of the actual armor?
@Ribbon_13 2 жыл бұрын
@@erzhaider armor was nickel
@erzhaider 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ribbon_13 very interesting, thank you
@tristenthomas7352 3 жыл бұрын
The auto loader on the Chi-Ri 2 has saved me more times than I can count on WT
@SnepBlepVR 3 жыл бұрын
I just love how of the tanks in battlefield V the Japanese tanks are the most op period.. I watched a type 97 take on by itself a Sherman and two LVTs and the damn thing won against the Sherman an LVT and most of the second one.. the only thing that saved the third one was some punk with a lunge mine
@Seraphil1 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they had the 75mm gun upgrade that changes the Type 97 Chi-Ha to a Type 3 Chi-Nu. Kinda wish the designation changed with it
@josten8044 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seraphil1 I found sticking with the 57mm and just going after the AP rounds is the best option for the Chi-Ha. The smaller turret makes you a smaller target, and with the right camo the enemy team might not see you. Personally the gun upgrades are overrated because the turrets are big targets for the enemy tanks. I had a game on Iwo Jima and got 14 tank kills. When I went to rearm, a Sherman pulled up next to me but didn't even notice I was next to him, I still managed to take him down.
@yi_hou3092 3 жыл бұрын
What would the Chi-Ri and Chi-To's Type 5 Gun be the Equivalent too exactly my bet is on the German 75 L/70
@ConeOfArc 3 жыл бұрын
From what I saw while researching it was considered relatively equivalent to the Panthers 75
@thesnazzycomet 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConeOfArc somewhere between the Sherman 76 and Panther 75
@qingyunwang3802 3 жыл бұрын
It's comparable to the M1 76mm on Shermans. The gun is based on a 1920s Swedish design and is certainly inferior in terms of penetration to 88mm kwk 36 let alone 75mm kwk 42.
@user-bo1ej5im9t 3 жыл бұрын
Cheeto
@EstellammaSS 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConeOfArc nope, at least not in terms of anti-tank performance. 75mm/1000m is worse than the US 76mm M1 It would have problems even against the Sherman at longer distance
@agentepolaris4914 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese weren't ignorant about tank building, they just did what they could with their limited resources.
@m10tankdestroyer94 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but you misspelled "They directed all their funds to the navy instead"
@agentepolaris4914 3 жыл бұрын
@@m10tankdestroyer94 well, yeah. But being an archipelago I think that was a rather obvious choice. Besides they rarely faced Americans on land battles and their tanks were fairly good for the other other enemy they were fighting: the Chinese.
@myDickbiG 3 жыл бұрын
japanese tanks are designed for cavalry tactics
@essexclass8168 3 жыл бұрын
actually they purposely shut down their tank dev around the 1930s cause someone fucked up in Manchuria by using them wrong then had to restart late
@agentepolaris4914 3 жыл бұрын
@@essexclass8168 I'd like to know more about that fuck up in Manchuria. I alwasy thought they did it jus because corrupt Navy officers were the majority in the governing junta.
@mikep3180 3 жыл бұрын
I also like how during the war the Germans got the memo and started adding sloped armor but the Japanese were like no fuck that
@gunserhallo5506 3 жыл бұрын
No, Japanese were aware of that but they didn’t have such a capable industrial power to do that in fact late Japanese tank had some proposal to use sloped armoir but quickly refused because it is impossible for Japanese to mass product sloped armour tanks. Limited resource and weak industrial power came to their mind.
@jackp7727 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s irritating, ik it’s a game and all but in warthunder whenever I play the chi Nu, chi to or chi Ri it annoys me because the 2 plates on the front could have easily been made into one sloped plate which would have made them much more survivable
@liviuganea4108 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't "get the memo". Germany WAS aware of sloped armor. They just didn't think the massive decrease in space, difficulty in manufacture was worth the slight increase in effectiveness. When that effectiveness was needed (Panther and Tiger 2) the negatives were deemed acceptable.
@shadowraven3253 3 жыл бұрын
@@liviuganea4108 I think cause they also build bigger negating the first problem.
@Cbrmkn98xs 3 жыл бұрын
Japan: i noticed but fuck it, imma waste all my resources on *Ships*
@bendrenth441 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like the overall silhouette. It looks pretty modern compared to some of the other early cold war. The spacious turret and the autoloader mechanism is something I like too. Plenty of room for ammo, crew and the idea of the autoloader just being there to help speed up the firing rate of the main cannon in short bursts is something I really appreciate compared to other systems where they feed straight from the ammo storage to the cannon. If the autoloader breaks for some reason, the loader crewmate can still keep the gun firing.
@DeliveryTank 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think the chi ri was intended to have an autoloader
@krixpop 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryTank indeed, there was absolutely NO auto-loader And overall, this tank and its variants, was another display of how little ww2 Japan understood tank warfare.
@jwenting 3 жыл бұрын
Of course the large flat and almost vertical surfaces also made the tank rather vulnerable. Not enough slope to really matter, and Japanese steel didn't have the quality to make good armour so they'd ideally need all the slope they could get.
@thegamingzilla6269 3 жыл бұрын
@@krixpop a revised version of the Chi-Ri platform, known as the Chi-Ri II, would have an autoloader, but it was very basic, being a 3 shot hand fed magazine that had to be hand loaded
@brute6896 3 жыл бұрын
@@krixpop well I mean they had a bit of small pieces of steel with cardboard and a few staples because they kept giving the steel to the navy
@FairyNya 3 жыл бұрын
i just thought about it, next episode of cursed by design should be “cursed by design: war thunder”
@gandsproductions5105 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the ho-ri with sloped armour wasn't even real and that the picture surfaced in the 70s.
@rubberwoody 3 жыл бұрын
the Chi-to is one of the best looking imperial japanese tanks. Then you have this chunky boi
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf 3 жыл бұрын
The planned production for the Chi-To is even more sexy with smaller turret placed in the center and slightly sloped armor around its hull.
@DeliveryTank 3 жыл бұрын
I like the sloped front Ho Ri and chi to more but ok
@Doman9191 3 жыл бұрын
Chi-Nu is best looking to me
@Penha-yz8vj 2 жыл бұрын
wait until you see the O-I
@Teh0X 3 жыл бұрын
Chi-He - > Chi-Nu - > Chi-Nu II upgrade was impressive. Such small 20 ton tank with a capable gun would have the ideal for Japanese home islands back then.
@aymanayad7230 3 жыл бұрын
"Sherman hunter" is only moderately better than the late Shermans
@mikepette4422 3 жыл бұрын
not even sure they are "better" in an overall sense just the gun is better than the Sherman 75mm can't say it's better than the 76mm
@aymanayad7230 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikepette4422 the gun does have slightly better penetration than the 76 in most circumstances,thats about it
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf 3 жыл бұрын
But does it change the fact that it would still have no trouble lolpen the Sherman after all that is the entire reason why this tank existed to begin with.
@aymanayad7230 3 жыл бұрын
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf the sherman won't have trouble penning its flat armor lookin ass either,and Sherman have stabilizers and easy eights would just laugh at them
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf 3 жыл бұрын
@@aymanayad7230 Again how does it change the fact that this tank was meant to take on the Sherman hence the title ''Sherman hunter'' i never said the Sherman can't pen it or even compard both tanks, the fck are you even trying ? lol
@scockery 3 жыл бұрын
"Sherman Hunter" is an odd name for a Japanese guy.
@imgvillasrc1608 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese-Americans: "Are we a joke to you?"
@thealecexperience1087 3 жыл бұрын
What about tiger woods xd
@tacomas9602 3 жыл бұрын
@@thealecexperience1087 lmao 🤣
@Icspiders247 3 жыл бұрын
Two last names even.
@datadavis 3 жыл бұрын
Sherumanu Hunteru
@jaredrevis4594 3 жыл бұрын
Great appreciation for going over this vehicle. The Japanese, particularly their tanks, are often reduced to simple-minded memes and as we can see from Italy this can't entirely be reduced to a language barrier with sources. I got my hands on a few Japanese magazines about it, and on the Chi-To, though those magazines are the hardest texts I've tried reading. I especially appreciate your dispelling the 88mm gun myth. It's a shame that even such big names as Zaloga have been repeating it. I can't help but wonder if it wasn't in part because of some naive attempt to make it out as Japan's Tiger. The obsession with that vehicle is a problem in itself...
@sandville2396 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a high quality video in every way. From the POV rides from War Thunder, to the detailled content research, to the background music. This channel will blow up, good job mate.
@jose-if7yw 3 жыл бұрын
Love the sponsor Channel thanks for introducing me to them.
@jeannedarcalterberserker8620 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese tanks are so interesting 👍 their stories are so interesting. How bout the O-I next?
@agentepolaris4914 3 жыл бұрын
I think he already has a vudeo about the O-I
@leopard2a466 3 жыл бұрын
@@agentepolaris4914 link?
@averageebran 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nomad0311 They were cruel,but not everyone.
@adenmitchell7633 3 жыл бұрын
No
@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 2 жыл бұрын
The O-I will be rather hard to work on considering every information you can know about the tank will be contradicted by other sources time and time again. Nobody is even sure how the one prototype of the tank was destroyed
@aaronlillis7932 3 жыл бұрын
I would love if you did a cursed by design on ships of the era
@Straswa 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid ConeofArc, fascinating stuff about the Chi-Ri.
@historymapping6628 3 жыл бұрын
Man. just when i was searching for something good about Chi-Ri's. Great Video!
@donpegar2645 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the chi-to was that when there got hit it turned into a chi-puff.
@largegummyhitman5786 3 жыл бұрын
*Meanwhile in an alternate timeline where war drags on for longer* Japanese tank commander: Finally we can fight Shermans *Patton tank spots chi-ri* Patton tank commander: Imma end this man's whole career
@unusualincidentsunit7428 3 жыл бұрын
You mean m26 Pershing and m47 Patton?
@largegummyhitman5786 2 жыл бұрын
@@unusualincidentsunit7428 ye as most of the Korean War era tanks were still only in testing during the near end of the war so this project of the war had dragged on for longer would have still been fucked one way or another
@ReviveHF Жыл бұрын
Patton tanks included M103 Heavy Tank as well, it can fire the most powerful APBC round in the world.
@jackcausey1449 6 ай бұрын
M46 not m47
@yashovardhanakiran4005 3 жыл бұрын
nice video.really liked the fact that you research your points.
@lymarromero895 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this tank in Sudden Strike: Iwo Jima, this was an absolute beast... *NOW TALK ABOUT HISTORIC INACCURACY!*
@patricklynch9574 3 жыл бұрын
Dammit now I want Cheetos.🤣
@PhongChu-vm2ql 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a video about japanese amphibious tanks next ? You can consider doing about O-I (or Mi-To), it would definitely attract a lot of interests
@gearchallenge7555 3 жыл бұрын
VERY objective reporting and major KUDOS!!!
@harlech2 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, great video. Love your vids!
@argxz4200 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Chi Ri has had so much attention in the last month
@cducks0178 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos
@williamotani8892 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I have seen a youtube channel be a sponsor
@YourLocalHistoryNerd 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite series on the channel
@carized8852 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew that the Ho-Ri with the center mounted casemate was called the Ho-Ri II. Wargaming had lied to me. Then again I'm not surprised. And assumed the Ho-Ri production/prototype used a different hull and not a Chi-Ri cause the sloped front. And Wargaming called that tank the Ho-Ri TII. Eh not a big deal, just a tank game.
@Calvin_Coolage 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair sources on the Ho-Ri are weird and inconsistent. Also Wargaming does love it's paper tanks.
@DeliveryTank 3 жыл бұрын
You moron, the Ho Ri with the center casemate is called the Ho Ri ll. The one with the casemate at the back is the Ho Ri l
@AJ-170SkyStriker 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't expect more from a company who calls the Object 726 an Object 279 (e)
@DeliveryTank 3 жыл бұрын
Nvm, just looked that the names in wotb and you were right
@matthewmerriott4483 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel always plenty of videos and content I love. On a side note if Cone Sees this comment can you do an object 279 video? Edit: Anyone else just like listening to Cone talk? It's a soothing voice.
@robinkhn2547 3 жыл бұрын
World of Tanks player spotted, am I right?
@matthewmerriott4483 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinkhn2547 I do indeed play but have gotten into war thunder and am starting to prefer it.
@DeliveryTank 3 жыл бұрын
What obj 279. The russian heavy with the turret on the back of the hull?
@matthewmerriott4483 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryTank no the heavy designed to withstand a nuke with quad tracks
@IronSalamander8 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of World of Tanks, I enjoyed the Chi-Ri with the autoloader main gun option. Big target with not so hot armor, but that rapid-fire popgun served me well! I have the Osprey book on Japanese tanks that mentions this and so many of their other vehicles and projects. Very interesting stuff.
@yattaran1484 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the photo of very last image of type 5 tank with some german panzers in the field. I've never seen that photo before !.😮
@beachside1 3 жыл бұрын
I was just there with my German lineup in war thunder. The Ho Ri on war thunder shows it having a 105mm cannon
@williamgandarillas2185 3 жыл бұрын
2:39 Didn’t know that Cheetos created Japanese Guns during WW2 ;-)
@Cbrmkn98xs 3 жыл бұрын
@phantasm the tall man i think you misspelled “a cringey joke”
@BigboiiTone 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely interested in tanks lately. Also interested in lesser known tanks and aeapons. Subscribed brother....
@getdunced631 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that Chi-Nu didn't arise directly from Chi-He. Failure to deliver a design quickly enough for Chi-To and Chi-Ri meant a stopgap tank featuring a 75mm AT gun was to built as quickly as possible. Resulting in Chi-Nu. This is why blueprints or rather renditions of the first Chi-To/Ri ideas feature what would become the Chi-Nu turret. Additionally the naming conventions used by Japan notably has Chi-Nu meanjng 10th Medium, Chi-Ri as 9th Medium, and Chi-To as the 7th. Chi-Chi or 8th Medium was not adopted due to being confusing.
@CMDRFandragon 3 жыл бұрын
Chi-To? Cheetoh!? Chi-To is the first Japanese tank I could take seriously in Men of War series of games.
@conservativemike3768 3 жыл бұрын
So... the Mexican tank was the Bu-Ri-To? Thank you, I’m here all week... try the veal.
@jdraven0890 3 жыл бұрын
And don't forget to tip your waitress!
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
Don't confuse the soft shell Bu-Ri-To motorized artillery gun platform with the harder shelled Ta-Co main battle tank.
@conservativemike3768 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred / Who doesn’t like a good Ta-Co?
@dun0790 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you
@monticore1626 3 жыл бұрын
I think most content creators just don't research Japanese tanks due to the language barrier thankyou for pushing past that and making this video
@whirlwindgaming6973 3 жыл бұрын
It's a little funny how the Germans needed tank hunters to take out rare Soviet monsters like the IS series, and the Japanese made them to counter literally one of the most produced tanks in history.
@AverageOhioan1903 3 жыл бұрын
cheeto and the chi RRREEEEEEEE are my favourite japnese tanks and you cant tell me otherwise
@shadowwarriorshockwave3281 3 жыл бұрын
Tanks for making this video it’s tanktastic
@alexdivision4320 3 жыл бұрын
I love that Men of War has both the Ho Ri 1 and 2
@mahouaniki4043 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately (or fortunately for others), most of their steel were used to build Navy battleships. Tanks were kinda treated as "disliked step-son".
@MarketChange 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how many Ha Go's they would have produced with the steel of Musashi and Yamato...
@yobob591 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, to be entirely fair most of their fighting was on islands where tanks struggle and against China who basically didn’t have tanks, so they really made the right choice not wasting time making Tiger IIs or other big beefy things like Germany
@Blei1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@yobob591 true. instead of tanks they should have copied the bazooka or panzerfaust for their island warfare. not the stupid lungemine... lmao
@Zero-zb5ij 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The Japanese felt as though they didn't need to have large tanks and focused solely on infantry fighting tanks because they territories they occupied often were dense jungles and small islands with little to no suitable terrain for large vehicles, but they made up for this by having large emplacement guns that they can conceal in major pathways into occupied islands. At the time, they didn't believe that tanks were a significant threat to their territory other than mainland territory which most of their tanks were deployed
@tino897 Жыл бұрын
The Ho-Ri line is depicted in some way in World of Tanks Blitz. Type 1-3. You can see them if you want. Probably not at all real by Type 2 but still something.
@bluemouse5039 2 жыл бұрын
What the Japanese needed more than a heavy tank was an effective light weight and mobile anti-tank weapon for their infantry like a recoilless rifle in 75 mm or larger or a panzer Faust type weapon, even if their new heavy tank was on equal with allied types, at that point of the war Japan could not make enough of those tanks to make any difference, also they lacked the steel and production capabilities to be making tanks and needed all their efforts toward just meeting their basic needs like ammunition and more practical weapons like mortars, machine guns,
@ambientghost2291 3 жыл бұрын
Next japanese tank, Chi-ri-Os.
@Blei1986 2 жыл бұрын
kek
@sevrela 3 жыл бұрын
Documentary about arl44 when
@ricardogabriel6075 3 жыл бұрын
Finaly!! I'm really wanted a video about the Chi-Ri II, (best 5.0 In Warthunder).
@BurningBlazeBaguette 3 жыл бұрын
Wow the opening of this video, reminded me heavily of bedtime stories
@HSstriker 3 жыл бұрын
I bet their final tank would be called the ho-ri-shit
@krixpop 3 жыл бұрын
😂😅🤣😅😁😂 I almost died of laughter !!! most underrated comment !
@oceanhome2023 2 жыл бұрын
Oh NO !!! You are a Laysiist ! a terwwible Wasist !!!!
@dinonuggiesguy4847 2 жыл бұрын
Ho-ri-fic!
@bejaminmaston1347 2 жыл бұрын
Germany: Tiger Murica: sherman Russia: t-34 Japan:cheeto
@adi-lan1317 3 жыл бұрын
Good one Cone!!
@AG-gm8vx 3 жыл бұрын
I love that warthunder is what is used to make screen/images for this
@jaxsullivan2117 3 жыл бұрын
3:16 "The CHITO" you'll thank me. Cheto tank.
@captainshid5464 3 жыл бұрын
wow haha wow that's so funny bro wow so funny haha wow bro hilarious bro comedy gold haha wow bro
@jaxsullivan2117 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainshid5464 H
@jordangreenwade2931 3 жыл бұрын
You have to remember we(as in Americans) were mainly fielding 75mm Shermans in the Pacific. The Chi-ri would have been hell on the 75's
@Calvin_Coolage 3 жыл бұрын
So does this mean we might get a video on the Ke-Ho? That's become my favorite late war Japanese prototype tank.
@fluteboiz8912 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen a KZfaq video sponsored by another KZfaq channel
@reform-revolution 3 жыл бұрын
give em points for the attempt then remove those points for thinking this would have worked with the tactics they often deployed during the war
@the7observer 3 жыл бұрын
6:27 - probably because the americans classified their tanks in light, medium, heavy by weight and not by role. So a Panther would be considered a heavy tank by american standarts while Germany used the classification by role
@shadowraven3253 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the pershing in the second world war a heavy for the US until later on?
@the7observer 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowraven3253 I have no idea if the US military changed it's nomenclature for tanks after WW2
@badgermcbadger1968 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowraven3253 i think i heard somewhere that they changed the classification of the pershing to heavy to increase troop morale but im not sure
@InfernusdomniAZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowraven3253 the Pershing was classified as a heavy tank during world war two but after America and Britain saw the IS-3 at the victory parades and collectively shat themselves they both immediately started making heavier tanks to compete and the Pershing was reclassified as a medium.
@nagaykei6611 3 жыл бұрын
Try doing the VT 1-2 I’m kinda curious about how that leopardxStrv boogaloo even came to be
@josephburke7224 3 жыл бұрын
One reason Japanese tanks were light had to do with the many small islands where troops were posted. Most, if not all had adaptable floats to get them ashore. A tank this large would have required some sort of port facilities to move it to the many islands. For home islands it could have been useful providing tactics were good. But Sherman's would have outnumbered them. As we moved closer to the home islands, more Sherman's were deployed. I am not sure. But I think 3 armored divisions were listed as part of operation olympic.
@LuoSon312_G8 3 жыл бұрын
is it weird how much this tank's silhouette looks like modern tanks?
@derrickstorm6976 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen a modern tank?
@motmot8879 3 жыл бұрын
@@derrickstorm6976 i think he's from 1930
@drunkoutankou1273 3 жыл бұрын
Idk pal most modern MBTs at least includes things like slope armor, and not this tall box with a track and a cannon.
@LuoSon312_G8 3 жыл бұрын
just saying, the IJA had a bad experience with tanks in Ww2, it's surprising that aside from the British Centurion mbt, the Chi-Ri's silhouette most closely looked more like the modern MBT silhouette than other tanks of the era. as i said, weird. idk.
@mercyful22 3 жыл бұрын
no. modern mbts can afford to have straight and weird shapes because of composite armor, era, nera and spacing. in addition, the positioning of the wheels resulting from the type of suspension used can resemble modern torsion bars. remove the "middle floor" and it would look a lot like some cold war mbts. obviously outdated, but still similar.
@christophercao7027 3 жыл бұрын
Japan: Finally! We have something that can kill Shermans! Pershing: Hello there
@naamadossantossilva4736 3 жыл бұрын
Jumbo: This is where the fun begins.
@Kalashnikov413 3 жыл бұрын
T29: Really guys? you just gonna leave me here?
@breckfoster767 2 жыл бұрын
*laughs in simple Lungemine
@worldoftonks8739 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite serie on KZfaq
@Grimsonite 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that was a photo 2:16 from those time but then the pic moved and I recoiled lmao
@danielm.595 3 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter living picture
@madcat789 3 жыл бұрын
Could you go over the very first American tank, the M1919? That thing looks like a Hoverboard with a wheel in the back and a gun sticking out the front.
@kurumi394 3 жыл бұрын
The strongest tank the Japanese had were captured M3 Stuarts. They called them medium tanks. _Yes._
@NoOneAlive_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, for real?
@PraetorianMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoOneAlive_ No, the Chi-Ha with the 47mm gun was straight up more powerful than the M3 Stuart. It probably did meet the Japanese standards for being a "medium", but it absolutely was not the "strongest tank" they had.
@NoOneAlive_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@PraetorianMan Ahhh, I see
@silence3994 Жыл бұрын
i dont have anything to back this up but i could imagine that the 37 was a ranging gun which has a matched performance for the 7,5cm. If SHTF you can still load HE and blast inf
@HispAnakin42 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so bad with tanks that the Sherman is your biggest threat.
@skysunknownheroes 3 жыл бұрын
Wow i just realized that sensha-manual blog is written by a korean mom
@impatientpatient8270 3 жыл бұрын
this makes me want to rewatch girls und panzer and play the defvil snail's sick game
@maj.romuloortiz7832 3 жыл бұрын
If you can get Girls Und Panzer Dream Tank Match, that game is so fun 😃 😊
@deezboyeed6764 3 жыл бұрын
@@maj.romuloortiz7832 i want it so bad but only got ps vita
@Tsuchimursu 3 жыл бұрын
Drives me nuts how all these one of a kind prototypes just got scrapped by militaries as gun targets instead of put in collections
@Pugiron 2 жыл бұрын
"Sherman Desperate Countermeasure" would be the non=clickbait title
@hiroshi3781 3 жыл бұрын
Do you actually read it as "CHEE-REEE"
@ConeOfArc 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@hiroshi3781 3 жыл бұрын
Huh
@donberry7657 3 жыл бұрын
The craziest thing in comments on war machines are guys who think their armchair video games define the quality, combat readiness and effectiveness of real weapons and their crews in actual combat under war vtime conditions.
@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus5224 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure there were ho-ri type 1-3 (search “Ho-ri t lll” for the type 3)
@spiffywolf2850 3 жыл бұрын
Its always funny seeing the bob semple in the intro
@GSC-Operator-chan 3 жыл бұрын
If only Mai Waffentrager was here to help you research this. She was the go-to person for this kind of information. 😔
@ConeOfArc 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard some conflicting things about her research so I'm not sure I would trust her information 100%
@CleveAneki 3 жыл бұрын
Mai has been caught fabricating and altering documents to suit their purposes, which has essentially gutted their credibility among most people.
@jamesonaudette528 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly some Japanese tanks look pretty cool but they suck
@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын
The 75mm AA Gun was referred to as an "80mm" in some period documents. That can lead to discrepancies with reported bore size.
@jeffreyarugay3503 3 жыл бұрын
Good job!
@mattwilliams3456 3 жыл бұрын
I can shit picture a US soldier seeing a Japanese tank rumbling towards him and yelling to a buddy “Ho-Ri, shit!”
3 жыл бұрын
i know its not a good source, but in R.U.S.E the japanes description of the "Ho-Ri". Says this (Probably inspired by the German Jagdtiger's design, the Type 2 "Ho-Ri" heavy tank destroyer combines the Type 5 Chi-Ri medium tank chassis with additional paddings and a 105mm anti-tank gun to hull. Heavily armored, with huge range and firepower, the Type 2 "Ho-Ri" is also very expensive, very slow, and requires to be protected from infantry by an escort. The capitulation of Japan canceled the production of these heavy tank destroyers.) BUT i do belive it has more inspiration on the "Elephan/Ferdinand"
@sinisterisrandom8537 3 жыл бұрын
Chi stands for Medium To stands for 4th 4th Generation Medium Tank Very similar to that of German tank designation Ex Panzer IV Ausf A 4th Tank Model A For those curious.
@roanneabe7552 3 жыл бұрын
Cone I want you to do the VK 30.01 (H) and the Sturer Emil for the next Cursed By Design episode because I'm just wondering what was the purpose of this tank?
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