im wheezing 😭

0.5 grams They are rounding up or down

Same dress size

East Asia in general

Same in korea

Exactly. They look similar. And one says she's too thin and the other that she's overweight.

Because skinnyfat is more noticed in Asia. The one covering up more may look same size but you can tell based on things like double chin when talking etc. No hate I'm fatter than both of them just stating the beauty standard.

@@RR-us1lt She doesn't have a double chin. If someone puts his chin down like this, in case of every person, even being only skin and bones, it would like having a "double chin". And the only think she has "over" is probably her cloths being oversized, not she being overweight.

@@RR-us1lt there is no such thing as “skinny fat.” These concepts are literally made up by marketers in order to make us insecure so we spend our money trying to “fix” ourselves, when there is nothing to fix.

I’d say their weight looks exactly the same proportional to their respective heights.

本当にそうですよね！ もっと自信持って欲しい！

てめえの意見なんか聞いてねえよ

私は20歳だけど私も含め周りの子もこんな感じです。美の基準は明らかに高くなってて摂食障害になってる子もおおいし……

韓国アイドルとかの影響がすごいのかね。エスパとかいう子らの過去写真みてると神がかった整形技術でゴリエみたいなのがアイドルに化けてるし。整形もハードル低そうだよな。見た目いいだけで扱い全然違うし今の世はやったもん勝ちな気がする。

10代20代の美意識の高いお姉さん達だけでしょ

I like how honest they were! I am sure they do not represent all of Japan, though. Like others have said, they appear to be young girls. Best to take it with a grain of salt.

よほどアホじゃなければこの動画とタイトルを見ただけで日本代表だと安易に思わないから大丈夫。

I am caseoh then 😂

🤣

Then I’m colossal bruh

🤣🤣🤣 this

In my country we would call her a twig ❤😂

Different standards by country

They're not Americans 😂

Actually she said she is fat

​@@samojede6776same thing, no?

She SO thin, it is crazy

あっコメント欄のね…w

ニキじゃなくて、ネキじゃね…？ でも同意

@@tikaraippaiなんでネキだと思ったん

@@うぱくりす男はゴジラの方がいいからな

う

2人目は8点だから愛せてるでしょ

わかる

They aight

Absolutely no need for any plastic surgery.

they aint gonna read this simp

The one claiming to be 8 looks like a dude lol

​@@HarosOfStyx 💀.. both of them are wearing such minimal makeup, i highly doubt it would really change anything

She's probably wearing the baggy clothes in way so you can't see it. You can hide a surprising amount of chubbiness with clothes

​@@kv4648judging by how she still looks rather slim in her clothes and how slim her fingers are, i doubt there's a 'lot' of 'chubbiness'.

@@kv4648 look at her neck, look at her fingers. She's definitely not overweight (objectively)

@@kv4648 no no, that's not possible unless your understanding of body shape and weight is similar to theirs and you genuinely do think she could be overweight. She's not. We THINK we can hide chubbiness with clothes, but it's mostly about how you style yourself that creates the illusion and complements your shape vs. actually hiding what is physically there. She probably just has a bit of a slouchy posture and some natural fat that you never see on edited photos of skinny people.

They consider anything over 50kg(110lbs) as overweight

頭の中は赤点の模様、、。

ショートカットは有名な人やな

@@ART2.211そんな有名でしょうか⁉️

@@user-wd9ed7ox4u 話盛りましたすみません 名前もわからん

点数低いのは建前で内心は100点に思ってるに決まってるだろ😂 日本人騙されやすすぎて草

They aren't that good looking, both 5s. Then again, men standards aren't that high, they can do fine without a surgery.

No

@@nightelfuserthey are both good looking and def not a fucking 5, are you clowning?

@@nightelfuserthe fuck u look like since they r 5 for u?

@@tgameds They are run-of-the-mill asian girls. Therefore, 5s. That's not an insult, you realize this is the average right?

Blame social media and tv commercials

The problem is to have charm...to love oneself...but both haven't charm...this can't be surgery changed ‼️ They should relax, laugh and be grateful for what they have !

Have you spoken to a liberal woman in the US? That body positive moment got them all thinking they’re 10s

Not western women tho. We have 300+lbs woman think she's a 10😂😂😂

except americans

I would say its sad to what society has come to.

I think they judged their Appearances perfectly

@@Astro-X I guess if you’re looking at it from the point of Japanese beauty standards, then yeah. But they’re pretty messed up. They both look like they’re at a healthy weight, it’s not good at all that the one girl was worried about her weight. And stuff that people can’t really change (unless you get surgery I guess) like the structure of her nose. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wish they knew that they were beautiful too!

5 is average, and she seems average in Japan, so her rating fits and she was quite realistic about her judgement. The other one is an 8, looking beyond the clothes it's clear she also judged herself accurately. Not sure where people get the impression that average is bad? Average can still be pretty, just not the prettiest.

@@somebody700 yeah, I guess so. I’m just not too big on rating people. Beauty standards are different all over the world, and they’re always changing. At the end of the day, beauty still is in the eye of the beholder.

that's because you used American standards that basically say everyone is beautiful (unrealistic), in here they are being realistic and not delusional like... you know who. Btw, average doesnt mean ugly or bad, its still pretty and tbh they're lowballing a little.

Agree 100

by American standards. most people are fat here, so anyone who is thin is automatically at least a 7. But Japan doesn't have that problem, so relatively speaking, standards ale higher.

@@voskresenie-"standards" dont exist everyone has a preference and percentages just outweigh to the point people think it requires disciplinary actions to achieve it. Think outside the box. They are beautiful, and as he stated, nothing NEEDS to change. They can do what makes them happy but their beauty doesnt "need" to be altered or enhanced.

@words-island1011 you're probably 14 years old

@words-island1011 I was having fun with it lol. What I was implying is that women clearly face societal pressure in regards to many aspects of their lives. One of them is body image, and, here it is up to an extreme. I said you were 14 cuz you seem too young to understand this.

Looking at yourself pragmatically is a great skill to have and empty compliments only hurt you in the long run

@@thecrimsoncrispy But beauty is so subjective? They genuinely both look great. To say they don’t is looking with an extremely narrow standard of beauty

@@kdog3334 right? My point still stands , you say it’s subjective then accuse me of having a narrow standard of beauty for not agreeing with you. You do realise how hypocritical you sound right and know what subjective means 👏 👏 👏

@@kdog3334 its really not Beauty is 100x more objective than subjective If it was the other way around, there would be no such thing as model recruits People can have different types, but there are universally attractive traits that exist in this world, and majority can usually tell at first glance who is good looking and who is not I can tell you this is 100% true because this same bullshit doesnt extend to men Youre either ugly, mid or hot, stop lying to people

@@thecrimsoncrispy geez why are you so aggressive

8 is a high score. What you mean

​@@yesxplain5965my thoughts exactly lol

She still wants plastic surgery and thinks she's overweight? ​@yesxplain5965

​@@Broodjemetbeleg plastic surgery will change her from a 8 to 4

@@Broodjemetbelegthere's no "thinking" she's overweight, she just is overweight. ffs

Yeeeeep

Who the f thinks that. Just look at South Korea.

Nobody says that sentence tho

@@StephenIC I've heard too many weebs saying that Asian countries are perfect. I recently saw a video of a dude explaining exactly why Asian countries have such a problem with plastic surgery and there were lots of shitheads saying that it wasn't true.

East asia

❤

そうね

I've learning japanase for a year and fully understood your sentence, reading your comment gave me confirmation that my efforts are not in vain. Dont listen to jinTheAceStar and their angry answer, maybe some pissed in their coffee this morning, and that's why they are bitter and annoying in KZfaq comments.

そだね。

@@JinTheAceStar I dont know english.

😂 same

I'm a blimp

You are.

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou Thanks 😆

maybe youre just too overweight right?

Are you an INFP? :)

このコメこそ「それってあなたの感想ですよね？」だよな。こいつがこの子達の見た目に満足してたって本人がしてないんだから、それ言っても意味無いんよなぁ…。 まだこんな事言ってる奴いるんだぁw

@@hiyoko03 最後煽るの女って感じでいいね

@@user-if7gd2us3y 何がいいのか知らんけど。

​@@hiyoko03友達いなそう…

You know they get all these compliments in real life too, just not from the guys they want because those guys have ridiculously high standards.

I thought that and I even see her prettier than her friend.

I think more people should undervalue themselves like the Japanese. Then we can think and work on what truly matters. Western* women think they're all gods gift to earth and Japanese women think they're all commodities and replaceable. The truth is both of these statements are true. But there isn't a middle ground of these thoughts, we're either arrogant and vain or miserable and pathetically insecure about any little flaw.

They both 9 to me, either way much better than mostly western women who puts themselves as 10

no shes not but yea shes better looking than the one on the right for sure lol

your opinion

American: TF is KG ?

@@jackofhearts1414 accurate

And the overweight Americans give themselves 10 out of 10 🤷‍♂️

@@jackofhearts1414 A unit of measurement people with a brain use

42kgなら日本人でも心配される体重だよ

Because there is barely a difference, that’s the problem.

@@greyyuh-wc6cn there's no problem at all wdym, we take care of our weight and don't have tv programs dedicated to 300 kg people lmao

you need to carry them on each of your arms to feel the difference of their weight.

@@user-nd6kj8yp8u guys… the problem is that in Asia such a small amount of weight is the border between “skinny” and “fat” it’s not healthy, and they are both a healthy size it’s just very sad

@@greyyuh-wc6cn its really not that sad lol whats sad is how in america they have a whole tv program dedicated to insanely obese ppl that die by the end of the program. much much better to have the mentality in the video then to have an obese epidemic imo

weeb lol. You should go to Japan and marry her.

Five is average. Most people should rate themselves 5 and be more confident in things that are less superficial.

Nothing wrong with being humble. Most people nowadays have too much confidence.

I would rate her higher than the second one tbh, but ratings are kinda stupid anyway because it's not objective

Objectively speaking, her rating is accurate. She sees herself in a realistic light.

No, the one of the left is considered too skinny and the one on the right too fat. 💀 literally zero sense...

I'm the Death Star then 😢

@@bcox5490 I'm the Milky Way. But I already drank it all😭

​@@godemperorofmankind5874 Caseoh is all the universes combined

@@JailerGamer nah 😭

Absolutely agree with you

整形手術の成り立ちって元々大火傷した人とかそういう目的だったんですよね

Agree. Like BBLs! That's just CRAZY!

Sad thing- too- is that some surgeries are botched and the people are scarred for life! Worse than where they started!

ね

単純に顔が強すぎるよね

didnt you see she covers herself with clothes so u cant see it? she even showed the double Chin

@@kanyetheofficial I think she was talking aout her belly that covered by clothes, or at least her bmi (cus its abt ur weight and ur height). But even her bmi is higher than average then shes still very skinny according to her face and hands, figngers, etc

@@LamMetellaRousseau u know u can have some parts skinny some not she just says shes over weight so not fit it doesnt mean shes obese

@@kanyetheofficial Overeight is not “not fit”. Overeight is above average considering different factors. No, having a little belly, a double chin (hers is not even noticeable while standing normally), or thighs that touch doesn’t mean you’re overweight.

@@Kaedya.- it does mean that ☠️☠️💀🏴‍☠️ idk if ur American but its literally normal esp in Asia obv if u have a belly like be fr + it is noticable ofc its not a full double Chin but u can tell she has it

Both of them are *kawaii*

Very cute!

How are single eyelids "unique"? A vast population of earth seem to have them.

100 percent agree! I think a lot of these people who have plastic surgery would be much better off seeing a therapist, etc. The problem is deeper. And I don't think plastic surgery makes people look better, most of the time. A doctor is not going to do better than the universe or God.

Believe it or not I just finished seeing a video for western men trying to achieve single eyelid. Enjoy what you have everyone. Somewhere out there someone finds it all very beautiful.

nah one has a weak chin and the other is a 5/10 at best common tate L

They sure are ! But it makes my laugh as, to my standard/taste, the first girl is a 8 while the second is a 5 xD looks are so subjective

​@@souillonsousion8687my standards are the totally opposite lol, i like the girl in right more than the left, guess everyone has different tastes and standards.

That’s the truest comment of all the comments here

Yes and she even says overweight 😮 even with all the clothes i think shes not

First seven, second five and a half

@@filipbitala2624 agree

​@@filipbitala2624 Id give the second a 6

I'd have them both as my waifus

They are pretty average looking women.

モデル級ではないだろｗ まぁメガネの子は5点じゃなくて6点くらいではあるね。

@@tukobou おま… 加工なしでこれならめちゃくちゃ良いと思うぞ…でもまぁ美の基準は人それぞれだもんな🥺

@@tukobou外歩いてみて、この人たちより可愛くてスタイル良い人なんてそうそう居ないよ。点数つけるの嫌いだから付けないけど、整形なし加工なしのナチュラルでこれはめちゃくちゃ可愛いと思う。現代人はSNSの加工まみれの美女ばかり見て麻痺してる。だから可愛くてもネットじゃブスって言われて整形に走る人もいる。整形云々の話は本人だけじゃなくて社会の問題でもあると思うよ。ネットには君みたいな人いっぱいいるからね…

@@user-marukus どんな田舎に住んでるのか知らんけど、東京じゃ誰も振り返らない程度の容姿だと思うけどねぇ 周りに爺さん婆さんしかいないんじゃないの？

東京はマジで美人多い、てか都心背高い人多くね？男女とも

I think some people really need to know the difference between clinically underweight , average and overweight. Most people fall in the average range ... but many people also think that you're either over or underweight, no room for I between like average. I've always been average in all my life but as a kid I leaned more underweight and nowadays I lean more overweight , less than 5kg of extra fat... but really telling chubby yet still average or not medically overweight people they're fat is really not neccesery and can be counterproductive , it's best if they're told to loose weight when officially overweight just by their doctor or medical professional with lots of tact. It can end up pretty nasty in severe body image problems like anorexia or extremely disordered eating( so uts best to not tell them they're far uf they really officially aren't and if they are doing so very carefully) Also beauty standards are very different in most areas in the west compared to east asia.

​@@lmcb8447 There's a thing called BMI, that's what determine whether you are underweight, normal, overweight, or malnourished

@@satou9508 BMI is not believable

​@@sovietunion2210it is how you determine if you're on balance tho-

Body dysmorphia is body dysmorphia, no matter which version. Neither is good.

俺も中々太れないけどそれ言われたら逆に太れるの嬉しいわって言ってるで。 全然失礼じゃないぞ、だってもう向こうが先に言ってきてるからな。 言われたらお前羨ましい言うたやんて言ったれ

How is this mental health crisis measured?

@@tteqhu By the number of suicides, by the number of hikikomori, by the number of body dysmorphic individuals. I could go on.

@@zacsayer1818 Number of Suicides is pretty much the same, or worse in the US. Hikikomori problem lacks enough articles for me to judge, but broadly I would ask: severe Autism in US vs severe Autism+hikikomori (undiagnosed autism)? Since outcomes are similar. Number of body dysmorphia is unverifiable and honestly I don't really want to address it. Go on - you'll find it's hard to make somewhat provable theories. Let me pitch one for US having a crisis opposed to Japan. I can't find apples-apples comparison, but it appears that United States mental health service use keeps increasing to reach crazy prevalence rates. It's a global trend, but you'd think that would reverse at some point as we become content with life, but years pass and it keeps getting worse.

@@tteqhu Tou make some interesting comments and observations, but it is difficult for me to respond further as you appear eager to make comparisons with the United States and I know little to nothing of the US as I am not an American and have no interest in this country.

@@tteqhuthey’re right tho, japan is going through a mental health crisis rn. we cannot look at it in comparison to the US and say “well since the US has similar stats, japan clearly isn’t facing a mental health crisis.” it is possible that both countries are, and/or it can still be a crisis for japan specifically because you have to look at that country for what it is. teen suicides and bullying have been getting progressively worse there. japan also has a culture that prioritizes work heavily, so the work-life balance there is much worse than other countries. this goes for the students there as well. for women specifically, the sexual harassment there has gotten so bad that all japanese phones automatically make a “click” sound when a photo is taken, because of the persistent upskirting problem there. they’ve also had to create many female-only trains and trams just so they can feel safe. that’s a bit of a different issue but not feeling safe around everyday people (japanese men) can contribute to a declining mental health. and as we’ve seen in this video, the beauty standards there (and most of asia tbh) are pretty brutal, which makes things even worse. these are just some examples off the top of my head. as for the hikikomori thing…they are not all autistic. their lifestyles can also be caused by crippling depression or anxiety, for example. a developmental delay can play a part in it for sure but mental illness is a huge factor of that. there is much more to it.

bro you are gay

But what happens if you're not beautiful by nature?

Nature doesn’t decide if you’re beautiful, society does (it doesn’t either, but it thinks it does)

​@@fergonza2362Beauty is innately important as it indicates reproductive success. It's genetics we're picking. If a short man wore stilts to make himself 6 feet, it wouldn't increase the height of his offspring.

​@@challengemeneoA significant amount of attractiveness is just innate. Even babies will spend more time looking at an attractive face than an ugly one. There are certain fashions that change, but much of it is ingrained.

⁠@@fergonza2362 there is no such thing as “not beauty by nature” Because beauty is ultimately subjective and the rules of nature is chaos. "Chaos was the law of nature; Order was the dream of man" Beauty implies perfection, which is again subjective. It’s shit we make up for selective breeding. Being healthy is more attractive in nature than being able to do the A4 challenge. Hell, the latter is literally the opposite of healthy yet people are attracted by it

Ukraine girls are 100x times better 😊

@@fergonza2362 I do love my country, but I still can’t agree 😄 I think beautiful people can be found all over the globe because beauty is so diverse. Like literally, two absolutely different people can look both stunning. I guess there’s no universal beauty standard, it’s more about how all of your features combine. That’s why not everyone needs a double eyelid or something

Shouldn't you be fighting in the war?? Get off your phone and man the drones👩‍✈️

@@bartlos1710 ​What's wrong with you?? I'm a woman and I left my country when my city got occupied by Russians. Idiot.

@@bartlos1710 What's wrong with you?? I'm a woman and I left Ukraine when my city got occupied by Russians. Do you have some problems? Also, we're speaking about other things here.

Aw what a sweet comment

Precisely! The girl on the right side has gorgeous face combined with the way she dress makes her look beautiful and cool at the same time

@@chairinriadi9277the girl in the right is earring makeup including double eyelid makeup.

@@chairinriadi9277she does want to make the double eyelid permanent instead of inconveniencing the trouble of wearing the makeup everyday.

Japanese young women are seriously pitiful 😂

全文同意です。結局は自己満足だし他人が色々言っても意味ないけど、 元々整っている子がテンプレ的な美を目指して量産顔になってしまうのを見ると、勝手ながらもったいないなぁと思ってしまう。高級肉にスーパーで買ったソースをかけるようなもの。不味くはないけど素材の味が消えとるやないか…みたいな。 特に右の子はファッション的にも広い二重幅より今の切長目の方が似合うと思う。普段は違う系統かもしれないし、元の顔に合うファッションをしてるのかもしれないからハッキリとは言えないけど。長文失礼しました

Remove social media and you have magazines and newspapers doing the same thing Remove that and you have societal pressure still

​@@Gerolanfalan I agree. Beauty standards have always been there. Social media jus widens their reach

Television too

this has nothing to do with social media, this has been Japan for centuries. the fact you think its social media means you yourself are too focused on social media, its like a fish thinking everything wrong with the water must be caused by something in the water itself. both women would be having the same conversation in 1994, 1984 and 1974

@@gorgnaxxangrog3183 no they were not. in any capacity. its just something to blame. Japanese and western social institutions both would never have said anything to these women to make them feel this way and they would still feel it. Thats why you can find bogus health and beauty products from every era since the beginning of the concept of "sales"

Bro wants to receive a medal or somethin

Same tbh. I think they’re sooo pretty idk why ppl in the comments just can’t accept that everyone has a diff type :(

so 4.5 /10 each? why so harsh

@@KnowerofThings aren't it means "an average"?

​@@Maki1.6listen, in an objective rating they are both around 6+, it's not that controversial, that's the average

Maybe they compare themselves to European models with European physical features which is East Asia's obsession.

9/10 is a supermodel, even though they are pretty they are not even close to supermodel level beauty. 10/10 is the kind of girl you see in your best dreams.

@@JAYbePRINCE I would say it's mostly dependent on personal standards, for example I don't like supermodels, they just look... like plastic? Idk, there's something unnatural in the way most supermodel look.

maybe youre just too overweight right?

no thats just japan, you can tell because both of them look quite similar in weight but both of them said they are underweight and overweight respectively.

95% of Americans ARE unattractive.

Bruh it's japan. If you asked the greatest Japanese chef how their food was they'd probably say "I think it's quite alright". Ofc this girl is going to be humble about herself.

‘We’?

Exactly

8+ 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

@@alexanderandersson9476 🤦🏾‍♂️ you are in no position to judge anyone foh 🫵🏾🤡 probably built like a narwhal 🤢

She's already an 8 in japan, I think she just lack self confidence

@@somber087 I think her humbleness is what makes her even more appealing. I’m aware she doesn’t look like an OF model. But she has class, and style, without a loud and obnoxious ego. It doesn’t always have to be about the physical.

World where people live longer and looks better than in western hemisphere.

maybe youre just too overweight right?

​@@staskozak8118 I'll give you the "live longer"-part but "look better" is not objectively measurable.

​@@LionHrodgariNot being visibly overweight (nevermind obese) is one of the most significant and most objective criteria that constitute as to which features will be seen as attractive by the majority of people. East Asians are lightyears ahead of the US in particular, but also the west in general in terms of their national obesity rate, though that's unfortunately changing in many regions due to fast food & soft drinks (it's in Southeast Asia, but Thailand is an example of this).

​@@emilyk1109 It's not fast-food and drinks, just culture. I don't know when the new "mental health" anti-trauma culture where you can't tell people the simple truth will be challenged. I recently saw a comment in which someone complained that doctors told him to lose weight (as obese person) and avoid foods that made him have certain symptoms. He was absolutely annoyed to hear the obvious. And he didn't listen until he got to doctor that told him to avoid pizza as he may have GERD which may have dangerous outcomes. Now I kid you not, losing weight can treat or significantly lower GERD symptoms. Most ailments are made worse with overweightness/obesity.

That’s true, Lucy is not defined as pretty in Asia

I dunno, sorry to be pedantic but mixing cultures here complicates things. Going by Chinese standards, as Malaysian born actress, Michelle Yeoh made it in Hong Kong cinema and her features aren't typical Chinese cute. Granted, that's perhaps the exception rather than the rule. David E Kelly also wrote the Ling Woo part specifically for Lucy Liu so that helps. Pew has released a paper, "Trends and patterns in intermarriage," that notes interracial marriage has increased from 8% - 18% for couples in their 30's from 1980's-2015 in the US. I don't if that's crazy but is an increase in mixed marriages.

Not all westerners are crazy about Asian women, beauty lies in the eyes of the observer.

But she'll return actually overweight..

😅

@@semkjaer3581 Don’t worry. Obesity is everywhere. So no she won’t

To rate herself an 8 suggests she has no issues with her confidence. Personally, I think these girls got their ratings muddled up. The one on the left is the 8, the other is the 5.

​@@Aquascape_DreamingSure, left is an 8, but the one on the right is a 10.