Japanese Phonetics #1: Introduction to Japanese Phonetics (Pitch-accent and Pronunciation)

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Dogen

Dogen

7 жыл бұрын

Patreon! / dogen
Actual Japanese lessons! Very excited to finally announce my Patreon series 'Japanese Phonetics'. In these videos I will break down not only Japanese pronunciation, but also more advanced and complex topics, such as Japanese pitch-accent, in easy to understand language. I'm hoping to make 'Japanese Phonetics' the internet's definitive guide to spoken Japanese. Leave a comment below and let me know your initial impressions!
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Thank you all for your continued support. Comedic Japanese videos to resume next week!
Video Sources:
・慶應義塾大学の日本語アクセント講座、当講座の資料
・新明解日本語アクセント辞典第2版(監修:金田一春彦、編:秋永一枝、出版:三省堂)
・NHK日本語発音アクセント新辞典(編:NHK放送文化研究所)
・Apple Japanese Dictionary(スーパー大辞林)
・The Phonetics of Japanese Language: With Reference to Japanese Script (P.M. Suski)

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@MauriceMossisitnot
@MauriceMossisitnot 4 жыл бұрын
Coming here after I lost marks for pronunciation for "sounding like a samurai" in a speaking task.
@shineayandrews1869
@shineayandrews1869 4 жыл бұрын
I see no problem with being honourable.
@PallasAthene12
@PallasAthene12 4 жыл бұрын
Arguably better than sounding like a yakuza...
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 4 жыл бұрын
PallasAthene12 I don’t know who would argue it’s better to sound like a yakuza! lol
@gravyhippo
@gravyhippo 4 жыл бұрын
Legend
@uchuuseijin
@uchuuseijin 2 жыл бұрын
Samurai have pretty good Japanese so that's a start
@user-jd3gv4hx5v
@user-jd3gv4hx5v 6 жыл бұрын
英語上手ですね
@columbus8myhw
@columbus8myhw 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, grammar question, why isn't there any particle between 英語 and 上手?
@nazzarynnavarronunez9471
@nazzarynnavarronunez9471 5 жыл бұрын
@@columbus8myhw it's informal.
@chunqus9990
@chunqus9990 4 жыл бұрын
@@columbus8myhw the thing with japanese is that you can skip a lot of these words when talking informal japanese because it still makes sense
@YukikosArt
@YukikosArt 4 жыл бұрын
columbus8myhw because there it would be unnatural. On occasion, particles can be very unnatural
@SodiumChloride232
@SodiumChloride232 4 жыл бұрын
@@nazzarynnavarronunez9471 But it has です instead of だ. So is it still informal? ._. (also sorry for necroposting but I'm genuinely curious)
@Daenym
@Daenym 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with the vast majority of the video, but if you don't think you can make a delicious steak with only salt and pepper as seasonings, come to Nagoya and let me cook you a steak.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@listminusv
@listminusv 6 жыл бұрын
Dogen haha!!!! You should take him up on his offer!! :)
@5IRAHHHP
@5IRAHHHP 6 жыл бұрын
hawaiian salt is great, i recommend it!
@yaram8898
@yaram8898 5 жыл бұрын
Are you...?
@_captainmagic
@_captainmagic 4 жыл бұрын
So did it happen?
@Dr.Menace
@Dr.Menace 3 жыл бұрын
I think I've listened to you speak Japanese for so long that when KZfaq showed me this series I was surprised to actually hear your English voice.
@phataskitty5740
@phataskitty5740 2 жыл бұрын
Same 😂😩
@brreeaad
@brreeaad 5 жыл бұрын
Expanding brain meme Small brain: pronouncing it 学生 Galaxy brain: pronouncing it 学生
@abysswatcher5745
@abysswatcher5745 3 жыл бұрын
This is funny as fuck
@Loonaurtheworld
@Loonaurtheworld 3 жыл бұрын
Gakusei right?
@abysswatcher5745
@abysswatcher5745 3 жыл бұрын
@@Loonaurtheworld No, it’s actually gakusei
@pedroharukiwatanabe5512
@pedroharukiwatanabe5512 3 жыл бұрын
@@abysswatcher5745 LOL
@theonetem
@theonetem 3 жыл бұрын
@@abysswatcher5745 actually, gakusei is the right pronounciation
@1945Jill
@1945Jill 7 жыл бұрын
This us great stuff! I've been studying Japanese for near,y 30 years and Dogen is the tops when it comes to pitch and accent
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Julie ^^ I really appreciate it your support!
@Coziest777
@Coziest777 6 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, the first Japanese textbook I ever read, Japanese For Today (1973) briefly mentioned five different patterns of pitch accents, but other than that I've hardly ever encountered anything else mentioning them at all, let alone their importance. An Introduction to Japanese Syntax, Grammar, & Language by Michiel Kamermans does briefly mention pitch accents. However, there is no mention in Genki, Kakehashi, An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese, Japanese for Busy People, Japanese From Zero, A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar, Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese Grammar, nor Remembering the Kanji. Apart from not wanting to discourage students by burdening them with the task of learning pitch accents on top of all the other seemingly intimidating aspects of Japanese to learn, I suppose it would make sense for books whose sole focus is on written language not to include information either. I do agree that it should be something to be aware of, as the difference is noticeably better.
@invertexyz
@invertexyz 6 жыл бұрын
If you use WaniKani, there is a userscript that will displays the appropriate pitch diagram for a given vocab word for you. Most words have a pitch accent, you can see them as the number beside pretty much any word you look up on weblio.jp
@WeirdAlSuperFan
@WeirdAlSuperFan 6 жыл бұрын
The series Japanese: The Spoken Language focuses on pitch accent and has the best grammar explanations ever. It's a bit old and people complain about its romanization, but like Dogen says, that doesnt matter. It's the text I used in school and I don't know why more people don't use it. Every time I hear someone sound amazed at how they're discovering pitch accent I just shake my head because I know they were taught wrong or worse, they rejected recommendations for solid textbooks like JSL because they were lead to believe that the popular Genki et al series were the gold standard, when they're really pretty bad IMO.
@skettlepunk
@skettlepunk 7 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of how flooded we are of "Learn Japanese" material, when there's few things like this. My fondness continues to grow.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
haha thank you very much! It really is crazy how no one teaches this, isn't it? haha Hope you enjoy the series! If it wasn't clear from the video, episodes four and beyond will be patreon exclusive (due to personal time / financial restrictions). Hope this isn't a deal breaker for you!
@skettlepunk
@skettlepunk 7 жыл бұрын
not a chance!! I think this is a huge setback for me on spoken Japanese, so lessons like this will give me something extra to practice on and more confidence.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, so glad to hear this! Trying to get lesson two up later this week! Stay tuned! :D
@user-tb2wj7lf3m
@user-tb2wj7lf3m 6 жыл бұрын
日本人なのに彼英語うまいですね
@Dogen
@Dogen 6 жыл бұрын
@ADeeSHUPA
@ADeeSHUPA 4 жыл бұрын
3 kyanberu Are You A 日本方
@hiphop4eva374
@hiphop4eva374 2 жыл бұрын
I understand every single word in this sentence yet I still have no idea what it's trying to say.
@LazyGardenGamer
@LazyGardenGamer 8 ай бұрын
@KandiQTC
@KandiQTC 6 жыл бұрын
I actually came across this video of your's after watching your comedy. This was brilliantly explained and presented better than most university professors I have been instructed under. I do recall some lower level books like the Genki Series, and some more university-based texts, having vague mentionings about little markers for intonation but no one teaches typical patterns to follow. You should definitely consider at least putting out a book/ebook for Japanese language learning. It would be quite fun for even advanced learners to read something that has some comedic references in it as well!
@LL-bl8hd
@LL-bl8hd 5 жыл бұрын
The Minna No Nihongo textbook has a brief but good explanation of pitch accent in the introduction... But then never uses it in the rest of the book! They don't show the pitch accent of the vocabulary words, for example. While having a perfect native accent is not really one of my goals, it would at least be nice to know, especially for certain words that might be confused if pronounced incorrectly.
@alphafresher
@alphafresher 7 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting! Applying the heiban pattern to "dictionary" and mapping that back to "gakusei" was kind of awesome!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
It's a useful trick, right? As I mentioned earlier, we'll be doing this a little bit in the beginning to get acclimated! :D
@comga4504
@comga4504 6 жыл бұрын
Unlike Chinese and Vietnamese, There is no pitch accent and intonation “mark” in Japanese. However,Japanese exactly has intonation. I’m Japanese, but until I learn foreign language, I didn’t realize Japanese has it,
@ezekielrast7807
@ezekielrast7807 4 жыл бұрын
Pitch accenting is not the same thing as lexical tone, let’s be clear
@ayszhang
@ayszhang 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezekielrast7807 pitch accent in Japanese does distinguish some lexicon, just not at the same universal level like Chinese and Vietnamese
@ADeeSHUPA
@ADeeSHUPA 4 жыл бұрын
西岡 Are You A 日本方
@nostalgicaugen
@nostalgicaugen 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Vietnamese and I know my language is super hard to learn . 🤣
@theblackryvius6613
@theblackryvius6613 4 жыл бұрын
ADee SHuPA I don’t think that’s how you usually say “Japanese Person”. As least from my perspective, it could also be like “Japanese Direction/Alternative”
@pauljmorton
@pauljmorton 7 жыл бұрын
Here's also something important: listen. I've been learning to better my English pronunciation for a couple of years, and I've learned to hear a lot of stuff that doesn't exist in my native language, and it has helped me pronounce English better a lot. For example, only a couple years ago I realized that "th" in some words is actually /ð/ and not /θ/, and I was like oh god how am I ever gonna memorize where it's this and where it's the other. But then I learned to hear it, and quite quickly got a very wide grasp on it.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! Listening is the most important point of all! I cover this in detail in episode 3! Your written English is phenomenal :D
@donquixoterosinante7899
@donquixoterosinante7899 5 жыл бұрын
could you pls elaborate and provide material for me.. do we need only to listen and our pronunciation will improve by itself? or do we need to train it everyday by mimicking the pronounciation..
@bilc3868
@bilc3868 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I'm not a native English speaker but for many years I had bad listening skills and I always ask to my teachers and they didn't know why and how to explain it. It was until I studied the sounds which doesn't exist in my native language that I can see a progress both in my listening and my speaking. I don't know why language learners don't begin with the sounds which doesn't exist in our native language. After all, maybe the comprensible input by Steve Krashen could be related to this. That's why I prefer to star with phonetics things in Japanese because I don't want to happen the same with my English
@Anvarynn
@Anvarynn 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what those pronunciation marks refer to, lmfao
@pauljmorton
@pauljmorton 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anvarynn /ð/ is the "th" sound in words like "this", "there", "brother". /θ/ is the "th" sound in words like "thing", "thanks" and "mathematics".
@GaussianBluff
@GaussianBluff 7 жыл бұрын
Who's this weirdo, I want the guy with the beanie back
@JandroshLetsPlay
@JandroshLetsPlay 7 жыл бұрын
It's hard to get used to it, but it may be his new style, just for this new series
@christopheresquire947
@christopheresquire947 7 жыл бұрын
i kinda like it lol
@christopheresquire947
@christopheresquire947 7 жыл бұрын
i mean, he doesn't look ugly lol
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
HA. I thought removing the beanie would help with the 'serious teacher' image haha. did it work?!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Yep! For this series :)
@liamwallace8995
@liamwallace8995 4 жыл бұрын
Was already subscribed to Dogen and then a Japanese course I'm taking linked this video as extension work. Quality content Dogen!
@Lorkisen
@Lorkisen 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to the series. I have always been amazed by your pronunciation and intonation. I haven't had the time to do a linguistics class yet, so learning it has been put on the back burner.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm very confident that the series will be very beneficial for you! Please note videos four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive-feel free to share you thoughts on this!
@Lorkisen
@Lorkisen 7 жыл бұрын
Dogen I don't mind it being a patreon exclusive, you do spend a lot of energy on these videos. 10/month is a bit much (for my budget), but as you said in the other video, hopefully it will go down a bit. But I can justify it as an educational expense. Q: I've pledged 10/month, but what happens if say I cant afford the expense in december, but resume the payments in January. Will I still get access to the old videos?
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
You will! :D
@obeycelestia
@obeycelestia 7 жыл бұрын
SUPER excited about this-- very clever with the intonation visual mapping you used. ナイッス!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you're excited for the series! If it wasn't clear episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive; feel free to share your thoughts if this wasn't apparent from the video!
@obeycelestia
@obeycelestia 7 жыл бұрын
It was clear, it was more like I'm excited for this advancement of language acquisition and retention technology to exist. I don't have a 4K monitor, and likely won't for some time. But I'm glad they are out there for me when I can pick them up and I'm glad other people have access to them sooner. You do good work man, good work should be rewarded. :)
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dennis! Totally feel you! I'm hoping that these lessons will allow not only advanced learners, but also beginners and intermediate learners a way to study Japanese phonetics :) Appreciate the support!
@ClulssCrs3310
@ClulssCrs3310 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I needed from the beginning. It was never really emphasised, and I felt that I never progressed. I'm glad I found you. I'm starting with episode 1 now. Here we go...
@FunOrange
@FunOrange 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dogen, I watched your Japanese phonetics series on patreon around 4-5 years ago. Just wanted to come back and thank you for being a great teacher. My pronunciation wouldn't be where it is now if I hadn't watched your series at the beginning of my Japanese learning journey.
@rain74925
@rain74925 5 жыл бұрын
wow, this is awesome. the visual pitch accent is really helpful. thank you.
@knirb9
@knirb9 7 жыл бұрын
Recently found your channel, and I've had laughed at almost every video! One thing though; for newcomers it would be really helpful if this series was made into a playlist on the channel.
@ShikokuWolf
@ShikokuWolf 7 жыл бұрын
Dogen, this series sounds absolutely fascinating! You're a great teacher. I can't wait for the next episode.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, 四国狼! I like that name haha. Hope that you can learn a lot from this series! Please note that episodes 4+ will be patreon exclusive!
@ShikokuWolf
@ShikokuWolf 7 жыл бұрын
ありがとうございます。(^^) 分かった!シリーズを楽しみにしています。
@moonagesyndrome
@moonagesyndrome 3 ай бұрын
7 years later, Dogen is still the GOAT of pitch accent. Thanks man. I'm taking a conversation class this summer and I have no doubt your videos are going to be extremely helpful.
@stormvexed
@stormvexed 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a little amazed by how much pitch accent I got just by mimicking bc in my first 7 years of study no English speaking teachers even mentioned this, but I spent two years in the country. This is going to help so much. Thank you!
@Brieg_Skald
@Brieg_Skald 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot for your videos, so far ! I watch your channel daily as I want to be able to speak Japanese like a native or, at the very least, as much and as good as I'm talking in English (I'm a native French). I really think your tone and accent is almost perfect and it feels super nice to listen to you. Besides, your videos are very funny and it makes a great entertainment while getting used to Japanese sounds vocabulary. Thank you for your hard and high-quality work !
@lylisasmodeus6113
@lylisasmodeus6113 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! Thank you so much for this! I'm currently studying to be a voice actress in japan and this is just what I need! I've been actively trying to correct my accent and intonation but it's not easy XD I've been told that I can speak well for day to day conversation, and it normally take a few sentences for people to notice that i'm not a native speaker but it doesn't cut it for voice acting! So thank you for this!
@laceyl.3823
@laceyl.3823 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an amazing goal! Good luck!! :)
@Ibfinity
@Ibfinity 7 жыл бұрын
Very excited for this series
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :D
@angelhead777
@angelhead777 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this series. Thank you!!!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tracy, I hope it is useful for you! Just to clarify episodes 4 and beyond will be Patreon exclusive-please let me know your thoughts if this wasn't clear from the video!
@evgeniagiles4514
@evgeniagiles4514 7 жыл бұрын
I really look forward to this series! I've been aware for a while that I have an accent but like you said I'm unable to know exactly why that is. This information is exactly what I need
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! It sounds like this series will be perfect for you! Incidentally if it wasn't apparent from the video episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive (this is something I have to do in order to keep both series running). Feel free to share your thoughts on this point!
@eveelliot4968
@eveelliot4968 Жыл бұрын
Wooooaaaaahh!!! I'm so very excited. I have been speaking Japanese for 15 years and this is totally new to me. So excited that my pronunciation will become more native-like. Thank you thank you 1,000 times!!
@claudiusle1
@claudiusle1 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I’m so glad a friend of mine told me about your chanel. I’m a first year Japanese Studies student and was quite worried about if my accent wouldn’t be too foreign, so findingg this is a great relief. Keep up the great work!
@Dogen
@Dogen 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for signing up Claudius! ^^ I'm sure you'll learn a lot of useful tips if you've never studied phonetics before :)
@manuelcisneroscastro4401
@manuelcisneroscastro4401 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this series. I have been watching your comedy sketches for some time now, and am very excited to follow this course. Thanks again!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Manuel-san! I appreciate your continued support. To continue my work as a content creator its necessary me to make this series (from episodes four) a paid exclusive for Patreon supporters-just wanted to make sure you knew! Please let me know your thoughts!
@manuelcisneroscastro4401
@manuelcisneroscastro4401 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your promt reply! It wasn't 100% clear in the video, but I kind of understood it. I would love to support you on Patreon from the very beginning, but unfortunately am currently unemployed. As soon as my financial status changes, however, I will be more than happy contributing. Best of luck with your great job!!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
No problem! And roger with regards to Patreon-Really appreciate the thought! Good luck on the job hunt :)
@freuds8241
@freuds8241 7 жыл бұрын
That's something cool you've got going on. I look forward to your videos!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Expect a new one soon! :D
@YukikosArt
@YukikosArt 4 жыл бұрын
I was happy I could tell which “ore” was correct! I will definitely have to study pitch accent from now on! Thanks for the info!
@sthlm6o
@sthlm6o 7 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel and I'm honestly in awe. I only really use native resources for my Japanese these days, but I think for the first time in a long long time I've discovered a non-native Japanese speaker who I can look up to as a kind of model or inspiration for my own Japanese acquisition. Brilliant videos; so glad to have stumbled upon them. Intonation is something I've been interested in a lot lately too. Thank you!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Hello! I pride myself on my original content and language abilities (rather than personality. haha) so your comment means a lot! I hope that Japanese Phonetics is useful for you (it sounds like it will be)! To clarify this series will be Patreon exclusive from episode four such that I can continue to fund my future activities. Feel free to share your thoughts on this matter if it wasn't clear in the video. Thanks again, truly appreciate your support!
@sylvianicholson-yj6dn
@sylvianicholson-yj6dn Жыл бұрын
New from tiktok where I stumbled on your video. Please keep making tiktok videos. I’ve been studying Japanese a long time and I think you have such a amazing engaging way of presenting information. I’m about to binge your KZfaq videos
@blueberryxyz4543
@blueberryxyz4543 7 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this series :DDD I'm so excited!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the continued support Isabel-san! Please note this will be Patreon exclusive from episode 4+ (let me know your thoughts if that wasn't clear from the video!)
@blueberryxyz4543
@blueberryxyz4543 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't get it at first xD but now I'm checking your patreon page, looking forward to it!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you so much for the support! ^^
@GottaFlySouth
@GottaFlySouth 7 жыл бұрын
Pitch accent has got to be the most difficult thing when it comes to learning Japanese. I'm really excited to see a series on youtube about it!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Just to be clear only the first three lessons will be available on KZfaq (the rest will be on Patreon). I've decided to host this way to try and fund my Japanese comedic series. If this wasn't clear from the video feel free to let me know your thoughts!
@leksikon
@leksikon 7 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to this!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Leksikon! ^^
@toj8116
@toj8116 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you're doing this series. I've been learning Japanese for quite a while now but I've only recently got around to learning intonation. It's kind of confusing me though to be honest, so it's nice to find a series on it from someone who really knows what they're talking about.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you're excited for the series :) I've definitely done a lot of research going into this, and am confident with the material I'll be teaching. Thanks again for the support! Incidentally if it wasn't clear lessons 4 and beyond will be patreon exclusive-let me know if you have any concerns with this!
@thanhlamat9767
@thanhlamat9767 2 жыл бұрын
Great lesson!
@TheRCrispim
@TheRCrispim 3 жыл бұрын
Dogen you are amazing!!!
@TheMicnor
@TheMicnor 4 жыл бұрын
Dogen... I love you! You're amazing!
@TheCormacLinehan
@TheCormacLinehan 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, can't wait to see the rest. You just may be the first person I get around to supporting on Patreon (hopefully I remember to make my rounds for some of the other great content creators haha).
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
It would be an honor! haha I definitely don't have the best stuff on Patreon, but I think my content is relative to the price :) Thanks again for the support!
@FooBarBash
@FooBarBash 7 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! I'm really excited to see more of these lessons. I didn't know pitch-accent could be systematic, I thought it was one of those learn-it-per-word things. I'll be recommending this to my friends who are going out and studying in Japan from now.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY systematic! I'm gonna drop a bomb around episode 7 that will blow your mind lol. Thank you so much for recommending it to your friends :D
@chadasonmcgraw8097
@chadasonmcgraw8097 4 жыл бұрын
Now over 60 episodes later. This is going to help me grow. I am going to go study this every day when I start getting into the lessons.
@nantokanaru9200
@nantokanaru9200 7 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the next one!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope you enjoy it!
@raikooldenettel743
@raikooldenettel743 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the following lessons!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I hope that the lessons are useful for you :) Incidentally if it wasn't clear episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive-if this wasn't clear in the video feel free to share your thoughts!
@gelsamel8548
@gelsamel8548 7 жыл бұрын
I've never really even understood the diagrams until I suddenly got it with the dictionary example. I am so hyped for this series now!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
If this helped then I can guarantee that you will learn a lot from this series. Hope you enjoy upcoming lessons as well! :D
@seyrahz
@seyrahz 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. It fills the exact hole I was noticing between all the various texts and apps I use otherwise to study Japanese.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Not a problem! ^^ Let me know on twitter if you have any questions or concerns :) FYI I usually respond faster on twitter ^^
@retroftw4644
@retroftw4644 5 ай бұрын
Great lesson plan.give us the tools to teach ourselves wish schools did that.
@キラキラくりくり頭
@キラキラくりくり頭 6 жыл бұрын
I've never done any patreoning before (yes, I just made that word up) and having been obsessive about pronunciation learning a language before (Thai), despite being low level in Japanese, I want to really be nailing each word. I was already debating joining your patreon, then I saw that video of the Japanese guy nitpicking your pronunciation, and I was like, ok, I'm sold. お願いします、どうぎん先生。
@Dogen
@Dogen 6 жыл бұрын
Yo K Dub! Thanks so much for the support! Really appreciate it! Please let me know if you ever have any questions or concerns!
@MrK0ni
@MrK0ni 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I had a Japanese opera singer coming to our university and offer us a phonetics course that I attended for 1 year but to have something to watch over and over again is going to help so much, since I don't have any phonetic course anymore. Really looking forward to this.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I also feel that video format is the ideal medium for a phonetic series; hope that it helps a lot (would have loved to hear that opera singer's talks-primarily pronunciation I assume?). Incidentally if it wasn't clear from the video, episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive (feel free to let me know your thoughts if this wasn't apparent). Looking forward to your feedback! Thanks again for the support!
@themultifish
@themultifish 7 жыл бұрын
Neat! Definitely going to be a handy guide for a lot of people. Maybe a little too many cuts in the editing, but I understand the need to keep the time down a bit. Looking forward to seeing some later episodes!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Multifish! I agree that there were too many cuts-stumbled a lot as it was my first time using a teleprompter and tried (read as: failed) to hide it through editing-also tried to cut down on the length as you mentioned. Will cut back from episode two! Thanks for the critique and support!
@Vader666th
@Vader666th 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video serie. I'm looking forward to it!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vader! Hope you enjoy the videos! :D
@ryankanno2562
@ryankanno2562 4 жыл бұрын
確かにドーゲンさんのアクセントはめっちゃ日本人のアクセントに近い。
@aneedforrevolution2193
@aneedforrevolution2193 5 жыл бұрын
After seeing this, I think that I actually need this. I can't wait to get economically independent to start studying properly and support you in patreon as well
@Dogen
@Dogen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support! If you've never studied phonetics before it'll make a huge difference. Looking forward to seeing you on Patreon! ^^
@aneedforrevolution2193
@aneedforrevolution2193 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dogen I haven't. In fact I've only learned some words from apps, and mostly by myself. Thank you, again, for helping me out.
@y9tw0t
@y9tw0t 6 жыл бұрын
How comprehensive; I love it. Thanks.
@antoniosavalgarcia02
@antoniosavalgarcia02 6 жыл бұрын
This video deserves WAY more views
@DonivDecap
@DonivDecap 7 жыл бұрын
I can't remember how I initially found your channel, but I remember starting to watch videos ever since I saw one being linked on reddit. Kinda surprised that you didn't have a Patreon page, but glad to see it's up now!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
It's up! Finally! haha I didn't want to make one without having something to incentivize Patrons, so I held off for a while. I feel that I finally have that now with Japanese Phonetics! Thank you again for your support! :D
@JVargoMusic
@JVargoMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Gah, thank you! This is so useful, I've been struggling to find good content on this topic. Just subbed :) cheers!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I'm up to episode 12 on patreon ^^
@XXXoXXoXXXX
@XXXoXXoXXXX 5 жыл бұрын
教えるはありがとう!ドゲンさんの動画を一番好き!
@Dogen
@Dogen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Please consider subscribing to my series on Patreon! 49 lessons and counting!
@JustAnotherMike_
@JustAnotherMike_ 6 жыл бұрын
Man, first Yuta and now this. I'm glad I've been able to find material teaching phonetics, as I've had basic pronunciation down alright, but wanted to see what I was missing in terms of accent and speech patterns
@Puessitalvez
@Puessitalvez 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Also I liked your chiptune music usage. Subscribed!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it! :D
@Kuponuss
@Kuponuss 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, really looking forward to this series. Hope I can improve my pronunciation that way. Thanks for your continuous effort. :)
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
NP! Hope that you can learn a lot! Just to clarify lesson 4 and beyond will be Patreon exclusive!
@Kuponuss
@Kuponuss 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'll take a look at the first few episodes and then decide whether I'll join the Patreon later. :)
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good! Hope you decide to join but either way thanks for the support!
@blackdoge5754
@blackdoge5754 7 жыл бұрын
darn you have some catchy bgm! Looking forward to your videos
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
That would be the great Swedish Bit-tune band Bossfight! Check them out on youtube :) Thanks for the support!
@blackdoge5754
@blackdoge5754 7 жыл бұрын
I will! Thanks!
@orangereplyer
@orangereplyer 7 жыл бұрын
I'm unbelievably excited for this. My main interest when learning a language is forming a nice intonation, but I hit a plateau because I didn't really know where to look for resources. I'd like to pursue narration as some sort of hobby in the future, so I really appreciate these videos! This is my first time commenting, by the way, but all your other videos are also excellent :)
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much orangereplyer-san! It sounds like this series will be very beneficial for you (especially if you are trying to pursue a future in narration). Incidentally some people are confused about the availability of the series; just to clarify the first three videos will be available on both KZfaq and Patreon, while subsequent videos will be Patreon exclusives for tier three Patrons. Please let me know your thoughts! Thanks again for the support!
@orangereplyer
@orangereplyer 7 жыл бұрын
了解! Best of luck!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will try to pump out the series asap!
@MeinLetsPlayLP
@MeinLetsPlayLP 7 жыл бұрын
That's the kind of lesson I never knew that I wanted or needed them. Seriously this series is so much better and interesting than anything else from the Japanese learning channels. I mean they make so many videos about very basic grammar or other things, which one could answer them selves, if they'd just hit the textbooks or pay attention in classes... Anyway, I really like your videos, as they are funny, entertaining, interesting etc, (I need more adjectives in my english vocabulary...) and I hope I can motivate myself to get a PayPal account to be able to support you. ^^
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, I was trying to cover something that no one had in the past (from this angle). I really appreciate the Patreon support as well-hope to see you over there soon! :D
@clankb2o5
@clankb2o5 7 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed.
@phoebesawyer2289
@phoebesawyer2289 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thanks Dogen! It's hard to find phonetics guidance with Japanese. As you know it's usually just picked up through experience, which is why I always recommend my classmates try to listen to or watch native media, which is surprisingly often overlooked or dismissed. I consume a lot of Japanese media so my passive phonetics ability is alright, but I do really need an actual active understanding like you are providing. Thank you!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
That is fantastic advice! I will touch on that subject in Lesson 4 a bit, incidentally! I'm sure you will learn a lot from this series-active phonetic abilities are a gamer changer!
@YeetusEliteus
@YeetusEliteus 7 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you have that condenser mic
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
It's a great mic!
@josephconnor1
@josephconnor1 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more of these!!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Joe! Saw that you just donated on Patreon-really appreciate it! Hope you can learn a lot from the series! :D
@josephconnor1
@josephconnor1 7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to help out! お疲れ様です〜!
@emanuelricotti
@emanuelricotti 7 жыл бұрын
This is gold man... you are creating something unique. Thanks so much.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I hope that series is useful for you :) If it wasn't clear episodes four and beyond will be exclusive such that I can fund my future videos. Feel free to let me know your thoughts on this matter!
@emanuelricotti
@emanuelricotti 7 жыл бұрын
To be honest it was not clear, but I just assumed there will be some cost attached to it. I wasn't expecting to get it all free either. 君のビデオを楽しみにしています。
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! Will try to explain things with more clarity next time. Thank you again for the support!
@dragonsanonymous
@dragonsanonymous 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Thank you so much. Pitch accent is almost never discussed, even in formal settings. The first person who pointed it out to me was my ex gf, who was a native bilingual speaker (and musician with perfect pitch). Looking forward to going through this whole series! 👍👍 👍
@Dogen
@Dogen 5 жыл бұрын
No worries! Glad to hear that you feel like the series is so useful ^^ Just released the 49th episode on Patreon earlier today! Good luck with your studies!
@fujikawa_j
@fujikawa_j 7 жыл бұрын
yo i straight up didn't recognise you in the thumbnail for a second haha. In all seriousness I'm really looking forward to this series, pitch accents and phonetics as a whole is something I've been putting off. I can see this being helpful for many people. Keep up the great work
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
haha I think my appearance changes pretty drastically haha. Really glad to hear you're looking forward to the lessons! Let me know what you think of upcoming episodes as well! :D
@Tess1061
@Tess1061 4 жыл бұрын
Until I stumbled upon your videos, I had no idea Japanese had pitch accents. So, I was very grateful your channel exists. ;)
@ImJoee
@ImJoee 7 жыл бұрын
Great first episode. Seems like it's going to be very useful. I'm barely N4 in level, but hopefully if I start thinking more actively about pitch and intonation while I learn the intermediate stuff it won't be so much of a problem when I reach a more advanced level. Also, your use of both the English and Japanese languages is truly impressive. Keep up the great work.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joee-a lot of time went into the word choice for this video, as I wanted to sound informative but not condescending. What you said about shifting your focus to pitch-accent is key; this is what I did as I began learning intermediate Japanese as well (I talk about this topic in detail in episode two). Just to clarify while the first three episodes will also be available on KZfaq, episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive. If this wasn't already clear please let me know your thoughts! Thank you again for the support!
@ImJoee
@ImJoee 7 жыл бұрын
No problem, I look forward to the rest of the series (and the more entertainment based videos too). I think Patreon is a good model. Since the majority content creators use Patreon to gain additional income for just providing the same content as their youtube channels and the patreons just feel like they offer support - so to actually offer education and value while still helping someone to continue what they are doing is difficult to argue with. Additionally the language learning online industry is a real money sink. Subscriptions and memberships everywhere. However, personally I think the $10 p/m price point might be too high. I understand that it's a slightly more advanced topic, you have years or experience in the area, and it's pretty niche in those searching for it (though it should be more wide spread!!). Unfortunately I can't offer a more ideal approach for hitting the broader Japanese learner demographic - but I'm sure you've thought this all out and again this is just my initial thoughts for your consideration. Sorry for the essay. Thanks for your stellar community engagement!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Patreon is incredible-a true godsend for artists! I also feel that $10 is a bit much; I'd like to lower it in the future when I have more Patrons (right now it's difficult for me to lower it as I'm trying to use the series to build a financial base for the career change). Thank you for your understanding and look forward to speaking with you again!
@kendawg_mcawesome
@kendawg_mcawesome 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, after hearing your pronunciation I realise just how much is missing from mine. I have to say it's been eye opening, and I definitely want to follow the series now.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
definitely check it out-if you've never studied phonetics the first ten episodes in particular will be eye-opening!
@Temple_of_Passion
@Temple_of_Passion 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with wearing the same thing everyday is we definatly notice when you dont lol
@brianh.000
@brianh.000 7 жыл бұрын
So far so good--sounds like a very well thought out and comprehensive plan. I've never really thought that much about pitch accent (because immersion), but I think it's an excellent idea for Japanese learners who are abroad. これからも頑張って下さい。次のビデオを楽しみにしています。
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Brian! Love your use of the em dash at the beginning of the comment! The series will be very systematic indeed. If you've been immersed in native Japanese for a long time you're probably way ahead of the curve, but hopefully there are a few things you can learn :) Thanks again! Appreciate the support.
@brianh.000
@brianh.000 7 жыл бұрын
I started down this path in 1989, and now know that it's one for which I will never really reach a "destination"; studying Japanese is a lifestyle for me. The idea of recognizing patterns (like the "oh, this is a four mora イ adjective, so it's pattern Y" you mentioned) is very appealing to (the engineer in) me. My background in linguistics is rather weak, so I'm sure I'll learn plenty! I think it was this video that pushed me to hit that "subscribe" button. (the tribute video for 秋茜ではなく。。)
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the support, I'm sure the systematic structure of the lessons will be able to help you a lot. Prepare for some phonetic bombshells!
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 3 жыл бұрын
Although I haven't done much active study of pitch accent, I was fortunate to come across a webpage about it early in my studies when I was a teenager. Even though I wasn't studying it, it was in my sphere of awareness, and so I think perhaps my ability to hear and mimic it has improved more over the years than it would have otherwise.
@Ethrusk2011
@Ethrusk2011 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! This topic is really not covered no by textbooks neither by internet resources. All I was doing just relying on my pitch )) looking forward!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
No problem! I'm sure that this series will be very helpful for you! Just to clarify lessons 4 and beyond will be Patreon exclusive (this is something I have to do to support myself). Thanks again!
@MasterxDark
@MasterxDark 7 жыл бұрын
very cool! I'm looking forward to this, I have yet to encounter a useful phonetics module or course in my Japanese studies. (Also I didn't know you studied at Keio?) I hope this series is a hit! よろしくお願いします
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, was a Keio for a year! A lot of wonderful Japanese teachers there. If this introduction seemed useful then you will probably be able to learn a lot from the course :) Incidentally if it wasn't clear from this video, episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive (please share your thoughts if this wasn't clear from the video!). Thank you for the support and こちらこそよろしくお願いします!
@JapaneseJourney
@JapaneseJourney 7 жыл бұрын
First time I'm supporting someone on Patreon and I probably would have done it also if there hadn't been an incentive, albeit not that much. That being said I'm really looking forward to this series a lot. My wife (Japanese) corrects my intonation a lot but since she is a native, she does know when something doesn't sound right, but she doesn't know why.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Japanese Journey, really appreciate your continued support! I'm sure the series will be very beneficial for you based on your situation! Having a Japanese native there to provide extra feedback will help a lot as well! Good luck and thanks again!
@friendly_sitie
@friendly_sitie 4 жыл бұрын
your english is very good!
@xdarkangellouix
@xdarkangellouix 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looking forward to it ^^
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! hope you Enjoy the series! :D
@onyana
@onyana 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. It almost encouraged me to get off KZfaq and study :P Congrats on the Patreon support too; you definitely deserve it.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Onyana! The support on Patreon has been amazing! Hoping to become a full time creator soon! :D
@barrybrown4729
@barrybrown4729 7 жыл бұрын
Never before have I even heard someone acknowledge the importance of pitch accents on KZfaq. I am so excited to learn from someone so intelligent and articulate.
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Barry, thank you very much for the comment. Word choice was important on this one so your comment means a lot. In case it wasn't apparent from this video episodes four and beyond will be Patreon exclusive; please let me know your thoughts if this wasn't clear! Thank you again for the support.
@barrybrown4729
@barrybrown4729 7 жыл бұрын
You did make it clear at the end of the video but some people may have missed that part. As for me, I'm already your patron so I can support your endeavors! Please keep the amazing content coming!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So glad to hear that :D Thanks for your support Barry! Helps a LOT!
@diegosorte
@diegosorte 7 жыл бұрын
Now you have reached a whole new level! :')
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
haha thank you! I hope the series is useful for you!
@ogidy001
@ogidy001 7 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely critical. Intonation is fundamental to Japanese. I look forward to working through these. I will take a look at your patreon
@ogidy001
@ogidy001 7 жыл бұрын
I had a private teacher that I did this with at one point. I will forever be grateful
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks David ^^ Really glad to hear that you will be signing up! Let me know if you ever have any questions!
@ogidy001
@ogidy001 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah will do. Watched the first 6 episodes yesterday. Interesting insights but the technically terminology for me is particularly helpful at this point
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
awesome! I'm sure you'll find next few episodes useful as well :) good luck with your studies!
@ogidy001
@ogidy001 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah its a lot of fun. I have been doing this for a long time and finding a new resource is always exciting and probably the first time I found something on the internet thats quite useful. Probably a bit of a generational thing as I did much of my core study before these types of resources were available.
@Temple_of_Passion
@Temple_of_Passion 5 жыл бұрын
You are highly skilled my friend
@oysterstu4822
@oysterstu4822 7 жыл бұрын
hey, great videos! it would be super helpful if your channel had playlists to help folks line up video by lesson type. keep it up!
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea-will try and get on this after I finish editing this week's videos. Cheers!
@Supersonic
@Supersonic 7 жыл бұрын
I am def looking foward to this!! i gotta reach your level and i must do it (relative) NAO
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
SUPERSONIC BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE 発音なう!hope it helps man! :D
@karinakari3471
@karinakari3471 Жыл бұрын
I've yet to reach the level/be ready to speak Japanese but since finding your channel I hope someday I could be something else than 日本語上手
@LIGHTNING1208
@LIGHTNING1208 5 жыл бұрын
聞き取りやすくて逆に英語の勉強になる笑
@ShoulderMonster
@ShoulderMonster 6 жыл бұрын
Yessss, this is always want I wanted! Subscribed! The first few years studying Japanese I came across some pitch lessons, but each time they were missing something. The one or two videos were missing visuals to confirm the differences, the pdfs I somehow found were missing audio so I could only guess, and everything was missing how to apply that knowledge to new words! Or even why certain words have certain pitches. My Japanese teacher in college one day randomly decided to explain how 兄 and 姉 have different pitches, but never touched on it again! In total it's been over a decade and I still have no idea about Japanese pitch. Even with Spanish, the stress and accents are easy to learn once you know the system, but not with Japanese. :'D So many times I thought, "Is Japanese pitch stress? Can I say it like stress?" I know it's not, but I was never given a solid system to work with to understand the difference between pitch and stress... Anyway, by some miracle of trying to look up "ryuukuu ben" which is misspelled I came across a website that had one of your videos up for download. Not only did I not immediately click off and decide to watch it, but after watching it I was interested enough to see more so looked up your channel! The internet is weird sometimes. @▽@
@Dogen
@Dogen 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you signed up! Hope that you are able to get a lot out of the series ^^ Incidentally can you send me a link to that website? Cheers!
@ShoulderMonster
@ShoulderMonster 6 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely! I thought it was a bit questionable myself! hmongyoutubedownload.com/video/RC07J2v66b8?id=RC07J2v66b8 I don't know how big that site is, but looking at the disclaimer all the videos are hosted on KZfaq itself, they just provide another means to download them. A bit weird, especially with all the extensions and other sites you can use to download videos... According to their DMCA you can request for your vids to be removed from their search engine, at least. Anyway, I hope to become a patron one day! Once I move and get myself settled and into school, then I'll seriously consider signing up. :D
@ChaosCause3000
@ChaosCause3000 7 жыл бұрын
This was already very informative, really looking forward to the upcoming videos :D I've been learning Japanese for quite a while now and the only time I came in touch with phonetics is when I asked my (Japanese) tandem partner, if one can differentiate 帰る and 買える besides context and she pronounced them differently, but I forgot how >.
@Xirnatts
@Xirnatts 7 жыл бұрын
In 帰る the accent is on the first mora while 買える has no accent. If it was 飼える though, the accent would be on the second mora
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that you are looking forward to the series; I hope you can learn a lot! Thanks Xirnatts for the comment as well!
@listminusv
@listminusv 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!! No beanie -perfect dogen Sensei!! Thank you!!!! Sorry just seeing these videos!
@RodrigoBarrazaNunez
@RodrigoBarrazaNunez 4 жыл бұрын
Hi 道元 (or is it どうげん?). I'm studying japanese for some time now and your channel is one of my favourite japanese language resources. First of all I wanted to congratulate you, and second ask you if I needed to suscribe to the $10 patreon subscription to get the japanese fonetic content. Congratulations again and keep up this great channel. Greetings from Chile (sorry for my english but I don't get to practice a lot).
@mousemilk4743
@mousemilk4743 7 жыл бұрын
I just wanna take this time to say...THANK YOU FOR EXISTING. That you took the time out to break Japanese language/culture down for all types of learners in not only an entertaining but also informative way...just, thank you for your efforts and I wish you all the best in all your endeavours. Side note, totally digging the hatless vibe here... //_//
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
I thought removing the hat would make me look more professional haha. and thank you so much for the support! If it wasn't clear from this video I need to make lessons four and beyond Patreon exclusive such that I can fund myself and create a foundation for releasing more videos more often (I'm using this series to find my career transition). Feel free to share you thoughts on this manner!
@mousemilk4743
@mousemilk4743 7 жыл бұрын
Though I'm currently unable to invest any monetary contributions due to academic financial constraints (*cough* student loans), I will continue to support all things Dogen via sharing your videos, blabbing people's ears off about your content, etc. until I can ^_^ Also, I think I read on your Patreon page that you're to collaborate with the Abroad In Japan channel in the future...?? My heart cannot possibly become any more full x_x...
@Dogen
@Dogen 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good! If you sign up late you should be able to save yourself some money :) I really appreciate the support as well; it helps a lot! Yes, I've talked to Chris! We're trying to work something out in the next couple months! He's brilliant! haha
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