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What I really like about Bioshock 2 (aside from improved gameplay mechanics) is that the ending isn't solely based on the player's trreatment of the Little Sisters like it was in the first game. You're playing as someone (or something) created specifically to PROTECT the Little Sisters, so unless you want to get the worst possible ending, it doesn't make sense to kill those little girls just to get more ADAM. Also, it's pretty ironic that despite her ideology, Sofia Lamb basically turned Rapture into a hive and made herself the queen bee.

To me it is. I LOVED Bioshock, but 2 REALLY made me feel a lot. It was badass running around with the Big Daddy arsenal, but also the story. GOD, I really felt like a father on the way to save my daughter and it genuinely made me cry at the end.

A big retcon that comes from Burial is that they made it that Big Daddies were always around, even the more advanced Bouncer type. Apparently they were just repurposed to be protectors. The first two games and especially two make it clear that Little Sisters came first while Big Daddies were made to protect them afterwards. So many videos seem to get this wrong because they buy the horribly retconned Burial lore so I'm glad that you got it right here.

The original saying “Blood is thicker than water” is actually “The blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb.” Meaning the family you choose is more important than the family you are born into.

I hated 2 at launch, but after replaying it recently, it's my favorite. Dual weilding and streamlined hacking is great. Minervas Den had the best story, imo.

Bioshock 2 is better in my opinion. First game was revolutionary when it came out though, that's for sure.

I loved bioshock 2 at launch and still do to this day. Comparing is hard, its like comparing alien and aliens. Two different vibes and tones. However the improved camera and hacking made b2 a lot more fun

i’ve rarely been as enveloped in a game as much as i have with bioshock 2, this game was such a fixation when i first played it and it only feels like it’s gotten better over the years

I think one reason that Bioshock 2 got so much hate on launch was because they included online multiplayer. I can't say if it was good or not I never played it. However there were a lot of fans that didn't want it in Bioshock so that might explain some of the negativity.

we all have our opinions and some just need to let it go. glad you talked about the games and the divide it has. can't wait to hear your thoughts on Infinite.

For me it's: 1. Bioshock 2. Bioshock 2: Minerva's Den 3. Bioshock 2 4. Bioshock Infinite: Burial At Sea 1-2 5. Bioshock Infinite I also remember that when B2 was released it received a lukewarm reception, which is sad 'cause gameplay-wise it's more fun than B1, but B1 had better story and overall it's more memorable. Love both of those games + Minerva DLC, but Infinite... well Infinite... I wish it didn't exist. It's not a bad game, love the story and the visuals, but the dumbed down COD style gameplay is not for me. Hated the weapon limit (reminded me of Duke Nukem Forever and that's not good) and how the game dragged on for too long. Overall, Bioshock is a fantastic series, Infinite is the only disappointment for me cause the more I play all of these games the more I love 1-2-Minerva, but Infinite... it's the other way around... it gets worse... still a good game, but not as good as the previous ones, that's for sure. Now would you kindly go and play System Shock Remake? It's a little bit clunky, but fun :)

I remember the Multiplayer for this being awesome! It was always fun watching people make montage videos on this game. I was shocked hearing that the game got a bit of hate.

I played all 3 games back to back. And yes, Bioshock 2 was the best.

I recently went back and played this and remembered why it was my favorite of the trilogy. People used to say that Bioshock 2 was the worst of the trilogy, but I guess they have changed their minds since then. For me, I feel like the gameplay is a big step up from the original, and I like the level design a little more too. Plus there's the Minerva's Den DLC which is pretty good too. From what I remember as a kid, I think it played Bioshock 2 way more than the others, although I still have a few playthroughs on the other 2 as well.

Calling Bioshock 1 "casual trash" is the most blatant way of saying "i play multiplayer games only and dont care about story at all"

I was always a bioshock2 man. The first game never hit me as hard as others the "twists' fell flat on my first playthrough and the gameplay wasn't standout.

It's fun seeing how different people use plasmids, I always stick with incinerate and Anti Personnel rounds for the chain gun for a complete run and gun play style so I take as many out before reloading

This dudes channel needs to blow up more. He makes awesome content. I wish I could support you on patroon but I lost my job recently bro. Keep up the good work

I always bind the camera to a easy to reach key like G so I can push it real quick to equip me, click to activate, then go to a weapon and resume.

They're still both better than Infinite imo. Infinite really was meh but surprised its received like its the best game ever made

It is the best on the series for me, personally. Bioshock 1 might be an all time classic, but the second one is just plain fun, while maintaining a good story.

This makes me glad I played all of them on console. Bugs that were there were minor and would go away after like 30 minutes and it never crashed a single time.

I played both back to back. And bioshock 2 falls in that category of sequels where the developers know that the fear of unknown is gone. So they aim for a more action focused game. Which to me is actually a really good approach. It always feels natural when games do that. Bioshock 2 is a more polished and action focused experience. They fixed nearly everything I felt was annoying or unnecessary about the first game. Mainly being the hacking mini games. But I’d be lying if I said I remember that game more than I did the first game. The first game just has soo many good moments. All which will be stuck with me for a very long time. But I barely remember anything about bioshock 2. The narrative isn’t bad in bioshock 2. But the first games narrative is soo good, it would be impossible to make one better. So gameplay wise yeah maybe bioshock 2 is better. But bioshock 1 is soo much more memorable

bioshock will always hold a special place in my heart, it was one of the first games i played on the 360 alongside L4D2

Something about Jarek swearing, is so ... therapeutically calming

I played B2 first years ago and loved it. I played B1 only recently - they’re both fantastic. B1 is amazing - i see why it got such praise

You know I really loved using Cyclone Trap especially once it hit level 3 since you could begin to send splicers flying around the place in a rube goldberg like series of traps

Commenting before watching to say that as a kid I played Bioshock 1 and 2 as they released, and the general consensus at the time was that 2 was a huge letdown somehow story-wise but everyone also praised the improved gunplay and playing as a Big Daddy. I think at the time “Would you kindly?” was still so fresh and groundbreaking that nothing the sequel did would ever have hit as hard. All that said, over the years I’ve always gone back for a yearly playthrough of both and I’ve always been a big fan of the story, I personally believe it rises nearly to the level of the original. I think both games suffer from lackluster endings, a trend that would continue with infinite (in regards to Burial at Sea imo taking things a step too far in retconning aspects of the canon).

The combat in 2 is better than the first, the story not so much. However the DLC for Bioshock 2 "Minerva's Den" was better than the main game of Bioshock 2 and up there with Bioshock 1 (maybe even better). However this is only my opinion. Also Bioshock IS NOT AN IMMERSIVE SIM (and that is fine). I don't see why people even try to call it one, and I have seen people call it that. The only options you have in the game is good or bad ending and 'how will you kill this enemy." Edit : I would recommend you try the Bioshock 2 DLC. Ahh, OK you mention your playing it next. Good. It comes highly recommended by me.

1 had the better story, and was more iconic. 2 simply has better gameplay mechanics. That and 1's endings wrapped things up nicely, it didn't _need_ a sequel.

The video camera is a genius mechanic that gives players an incentive to experiment how to kill different enemies. If you kill then with different weapons, ammo and plasmids, you earn more xp to unlock perks against them while at the same time learning their weaknesses.

After playing all 3 back to back I'd have to say 2 is my favorite but I think that again came down to its feel being better then the first and the fact it was still at rapture. All in all great games tho

I like 1 & 2 equally, I replay them back to back when I get that Bioshock itch. I always thought 2 got way too much shit even as a diehard Bioshock 1 fan. And Minerva's Den is like top 3 DLCs ever made

I like the narrative and level design of the first game but the gameplay and hacking in the 2nd game is significantly better. I played System Shock 2 last year as somebody who was born in 98 so I have no prior nostalgia tied to it and I liked it quite a lot despite some of its jank due to age. I think Bioshock and System Shock 2 are pretty even, its kind of gameplay and QOL improvements versus deeper RPG elements and a more sci-fi aesthetic with in my opinion the most bad-ass antagonists in videogames in Shodan.

I've only played each game once but will say that Bioshock 2 is definitely more fun to play and gets the edge for gameplay over the first game. Story, tho is quite hard for me as i really did enjoy both and think I need another playthrough to decide properly

I still prefer Bioshock 1. I think people tend to exagerate Bioshock 2's gameplay improvements. Meanwhile, storywise Bioshock 1 is infinitely better than 2.

I remember finding this man's FA a few months back. Glad the VR is still going strong :D

I'm glad you touched on the abysmal port of BioShock 2 remastered. I started it last year and got about 8 hours in and it would literally crash every 2 minutes. I'll check out the fix you mentioned because I was enjoying it. I think the combat is vastly better than the first game but not much else

BS1 for story, BS2 for combat

Yes, and those who disagree were just dissapointed that a sequel felt like a sequel and not as new and revolutionary as the first game. 2 iterates on everything 1 did on a mechanical level and the story is fine, even if Lamb isn't built up as well as Ryan. The only thing I ever disliked about 2 was not being able to go back to previous levels.

Yo, that clip of the speargun triggered a memory of a game I played when I was younger where you used a weapon that shot wooden stakes, now I absolutely have to find out what game it was and play it again. EDIT: I managed to find it, it was Painkiller.

While I loved the first one, the second was more fun to play. The combos of plasmids with weapons are neat. Apart the main game, the multiplayer is very fun.

The intro in Bioshock 2 is immaculate 👏

so about killing gilbert being considered morally bad, i believe its because if you kill him its as if youre only seeing a monster that needs to be killed (or "put out of his misery", as you said), but by sparing him you look past the dramatic " alex the great" and recognize him as a person. ignoring whatever actions he might have done, the thing is that alex, like delta or any big daddy, is pretty much a different being from his pre-mutation self, so the moral dilemma is if you can see him, and by extension any big daddy/little girl, as a person or as a monster

Harvesting angels with the litle sisters is entirely optional, you can just get them to a vent and save them. The game doesn't tell you this, but it's something that i tried myself, and it worked. I was playing on a playstation 3

Never got why the story in 2 is considered worse than that of 1, but I'd guess getting the tweeeest spoiled plus the overwhelming praise made me approach it with expectations that didn't help. Might be unfair to see it as just an interactive Shyamaladingdong movie, but that's all it is to me - besides an introduction to an inspired setting. 2 on the other hand - no spoilers, no expectations and it just worked. Curious if that's a common experience among those of us who think 2 isn't just better as a game but also a better told story. After the first playthrough Ellies scream in the intro gets me every time on replays. Kinda wish the tactical options had gotten at least some spotlight in this review. Whether it's a fight against other Daddies, Big Sisters or the harvesting minigame, you have a chance to prepare an arena before the chaos starts. Makes a bigger difference than the more immediate gameplay changes like dual wielding plasmid plus weapon in my opinion.

Heard what you said about Bioshock being streamlined down from Systemshock and I had a thought: "Is Bioshock the Skyrim to Systemshock's Morrowind?"

I largely prefer 2 over 1 but I always felt like it was a graphical downgrade. The blood for example doesn't really look like blood.

I'm one of those people who didn't play Bioshock games until like ten years after release. Went in totally blind and found myself liking Bioshock 2 the best. Then I played System Shock enhanced edition a year or two later. System Shock seemed like it had deeper mechanics with all the patches and ammo types oh and the variety in minigames. Bioshock just had those annoying "flow" puzzles

Yes.

I think the game had a bit of a renaissance, due in part to the late, great Totalbiscuit. Back in the day, he would constantly praise this game, over the other Bioshock titles. I think this made people come back to the game, knowing what to expect, and really enjoying the experience.

Minerva’s Den is one of the best DLC contents ever made imo, so I’m looking forward to that. Though I’m more interested in seeing you cover Infinite. Holy crap, if you thought people had strong opinions on the first two games, you haven’t seen anything yet. Personally, I find it to be a game that, opposite to Bioshock 2, gets worse with age.

i can't remember each game distinctly but i do have this to say oh my god, drill specialist my beloved the drill lunge is just so fun and launching bozos is amazing

Jarek coming out spitting in the opening.

I've always wanted to play it. It is in my steam back log.

Caught me off guard finding "Flashpoint' soundtrack from the game Legendary being used here. A flawed favorite of mine.

ive tried getting into bioshock so many times, because i like the story and the look, but i just never could find the fun in it

Man I'll never forget my cousin showing me those first couple Bioshock trailers back in like 2005/2006. I was immediately sold. Picked it up and completely fell in love with the world, story and atmosphere. Then the 2nd one came out and for some reason, it just didn't hit as hard for me. I'll have to go back and give it another try now tho since it's been years. I just wish there was a better/easier way to play the OG versions. The "remastered" versions somehow look worse lol

putting -dx10 or something like that in the launch options stops the crashing as well

I love Politics in Video Games

Yes

10:31 "Big Daddy origins" segment 😂 That secured your like, sir.

Simple answer: Yes! Complex answer: Yes! Better combat, powers and gameplay mechanics, and much better ending. Plus, we had MP, which was legendary!

Question -- What is the best way to play Bioshock 1 and 2 on PC here in 2024? I've got the itch to return to Rapture, especially to reexperience these gems on the Steam Deck, but after watching videos comparing the OGs to the remastered versions, it looks like the OGs look better in almost every way except a few. I only see the remastered versions for sale on Steam, but is there a way to play the OGs on PC, or are we just stuck with the inferior remastered versions?

I didn't vote in the Bioshock vs System Shock 2 poll because I haven't played System Shock 2. If I had a computer I would totally play though. I like Prey 2017 and Dishonored. I don't know that those two games come close to System Shock 2 but I would at least try it.

I still have yet to play BioShock 2. Only reason why I did not play it when it came out was that they added a multiplayer component to the game.

Bioshock 1 and 2 are like Star Wars and Star Trek but flipped. On the surface they seem to be similar in story, if you only focus on the city that is, but at the end of the day one is more about the mind while one is more about the heart. Ironically with TV and movies it seems people care more about the emotions they invoke while in games it is more about the mind.

this was such a good watch

I have always considered BioShock 2 to be the best of the series Edit: Been on and preferred Xbox damn near my whole gaming life, just as a disclaimer.

Also one of the best video game shotguns imo

BioShock 1 has a better environment just by the nature of it being the first game. Rapture is fresh to the player. I think it also has better player movement (mainly because you can stack two athlete plasmids and turn the entire game into doom). BioShock 2 on the other hand has far better gameplay. Dual-wield, more interesting plasmid upgrades (fully upgraded telekinesis, my beloved) recording enemies instead of having to spam pictures on every enemy you fight. Better weapon balance as well, electric gel was so busted for big daddy fights in the first game, especially when you were able to double the amount of ammo when crafting

People already hating on “Judas”based off a trailer.. Too many kids grew up to be media snobs that never tried game design personally. Wish there was more respect for hard work.

The DLC for this game is amazing.

Bioshock 2 is my favorite in the series. It improved a lot of things and the story was more straightforward. People were just expecting a plot twist like the first game.

I miss the multiplayer so so much. I think about it often.

Minerva's Den is the best piece of bioshock content.

I love bioshock 2, so much time without watching the channel and when i see you are reviewing bioshock, good day to be back i guess xD

I don't think BioShock 2 is better than BioShock 1, but I do think they're both solid 10/10 in their own unique ways

I'd say Bioshock 1 and 2 are like two sides of the same coin. They take place in the same location with similar gameplay but focus on ideologically and atmospherically opposite sides. 1 was all about the city of Rapture as this great and terrible place that sucks you in, while 2 has you take part as a familiar part of Rapture's world, instead focusing on the people and tragedy the city left them in. While 2 doesn't make the same impact as 1, it was never trying to, instead wanting to refine and expand on what was already there. The games complement each other, helping the world of Rapture be more complete than if only one game existed alone.

I loved system shock 2 but Ive definitely played bioshock 2 more. I have to be a in a specific mood to play SS2 where as I can hop into bioshock 2 whenever.

Oh so thats the genre for System Shock and Prey. Cool.

I have a very specific memory of walking up a staircase in bioshock 2 and a splicer just yesterday an oil barrel down it, lighting me ablaze and killing me instantly. I screamed "holy Morgan freeman fuck, eat a trillion dicks" as I turned my ps3 off. I then went downstairs to my mom who had never heard me video game rage because it's not something I do often and she just asked if I was ok lol. Then I tried to explain what happened and realized how silly I sounded, then dug back in because I was renting from blockbuster over the weekend and the game ain't gonna finish itself

The video taking is way more fun way to research the enemies. It makes more sense

The den dlc is still my favorite out of everything

Jarek you should play star trek voyager elite force. its heavily inspired by half life

I love both but I felt at the time hands down that bioshock 2 is better than bioshock 1 . It suprises me that alot of people didnt feel the same !

I legit thought Bioshock 2 was better than 1 when it came out and still feel that way. I'd actually argue the story is better too. The story has no big twist but it's more emotionally resonant.

Double upload this week? Nice

Always thought it was the best and it’s multiplayer slaps

9:19 Dude not even joking, this is the deepest shit I have ever heard you said.

Bioshock 2 is the best Bioshock like Warrior Within is the best Prince of Persia

How can you breathe underwater?

I loved bioshock 2 man..

I feel like this debate can be boiled down to one sentence, "Bioshock 2 is a great game that has the misfortune of being the sequel to one of the best games to come out of the golden age of video games".

Also an interesting question which version is better PS3 or PS4. PS4 has higher res and better graphics is more smooth overall. But...the darker gritty 720p resolution compliments the games aesthetics better in my opinion. You decide...

Please explain the dragon lore. Why is he underwater?

Bioshock 1 maybe had better story but i absolutely loved Bioshock 2's ending, especially the good and sad endings, they actually made me emotional, which very few games ever succeeded.

I actually played 2 first but ive never gotten very far in it. Ive always really liked it, tho. Also, 100% agree with Jarek on this one, BioShock is NOT an immersive sim, it is an FPS with light im sim trappings. Doesnt mean its a bad game (far, FAR from it), but comparing it to SS2 really isnt fair. Ik I did a few times but tbh I really only brought it up bc personally I feel it gets overlooked in favor of its younger brother sometimes. It makes sense as to why obviously bc BioShock is newer AND appeals to a wider audience, but I like SS2 alot and wish more ppl would go back and play it, its once of the best PC games ever made imo and if you like BioShock, chances are you'll like it.

still waiting for vr mods...