Learn more on my website article "Beginner's Guide to 12v Fridges" jasonoid.com/fridge-buyers-guide/ UPDATE TO POWER CONSUMPTION: There was an error I made in the editing of the video, The VL 45 pulled 0.828 KWhr total over the duration of testing. Converting .828kWh into Amp hours at 12 volts = 69amp hours / 96 hours of total running of the fridge = .71 amp hours per hour at 70 degrees ambient. If the temps are higher you get more power draw, especially at temps about 90 degrees. Sorry for the confusion!
@JosephStory3 жыл бұрын
Saw the KWhr stat just now and I had to shake my head for a second. Uses as much in 96 hours as the average American Household in a month! lol Easy mistake. Thanks for the video on this fridge. Looks like a nice piece of kit to have.
@scotth55033 жыл бұрын
You basically just calculated watt-hours (Wh) with that 8.63. I actually find Wh to make more sense for low energy appliances like these. That said, 8.6 Wh is very reasonable power consumption. I don't like the latches on the particular Iceco you reviewed, but a JP30 might work well for me.
@randyisfree56714 жыл бұрын
Just to add another note these fridge and freezers have been very very reliable as for mentioned I use it in my camper van and go off-road a lot they can handle up to a 40° angle with no problem so you can use them even in boats they're built very well I have had to deal with the customer service with iceco and have found them to be immensely helpful absolutely professional and it was a pleasure working with them I would recommend this ice Co fridge freezer to anybody looking for something to use for either on or off grid use I will I will recommend them over dometic any day
@jodyoneal92523 жыл бұрын
The red cover on the 12 volt plug covers up the DIN connector that plugs into a DIN receptacle. The DIN receptacle is also used on BMW motorcycles as the Powerlet connector. The receptacle springs over the positive terminal catching it in the groove that is visible near the tip. This prevents it from shaking loose. It is a much better receptacle than the US style cigarette receptacle in high vibration applications. This also explains the heavy spring rate of the positive terminal, ensuring that it is stiff enough to lock into the DIN receptacle. The DIN receptacle and plug are rated to 12 amps and used for both 12 volt and 24 volt systems.
@bigsilverbear41873 жыл бұрын
I JUST bought this fridge from ICECO for $475.15 using your 15% coupon code. I wish I could buy you a beer. I will soon have a very cool fridge (pun intended) to keep them cold. Thank you very much for all you do.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help out! How have you enjoyed the fridge? Any good camping trips with it yet?
@bigsilverbear41873 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I had the fridge staged in my living room to keep drinks cold until the wiring for the solar was done in my van. Now that the wiring is done, my ICECO has a new home in my van. It works very well in the Florida heat. I will soon build an insulated cabinet for it so it doesn't have to work hard. (I remember to leave room for air movement around the vents.) The cabinet will also serve as a seat.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@bigsilverbear4187 sounds like an awesome project! Kinda jealous.... Haha Post a video on it and let me know, people on KZfaq love that type of stuff!
@bigsilverbear41873 жыл бұрын
The 6 thumbs downs must have been from other fridge companies. SUPERB video man!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@dupton80003 жыл бұрын
Not superb I bought one of these nowhere in the brochure or description with the literature included with the fridge didn't mention what the USB ports are for. And you completely ignored mentioning what the intended purposes are for are they inputs or outputs can you hook up a solar panel directly?
@califor2a8302 жыл бұрын
I was 50/50 and this review helped in my decision making. Saved a nice chunk of change with your promo code too! Thanks!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
So glad it was helpful! This is my go to fridge for reliablity and efficiency. Great choice!
@seachaser3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a straight forward review! Easy to listen to, no drama.
@bigsilverbear41873 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: I just received my ICECO VL45 today. I was very fortunate that mine was delivered in PRISTINE CONDITION! Not just ICECO, but many 12V cooler manufacturers have had issues with the carriers (UPS & FedEx) mishandling their product. Some people have their coolers arrive with dents and dings. It isn't a manufacturer problem. It is a carrier problem with the handling. I have read these on-line reviews all over the web. Another reason (besides this video) that I elected to go with ICECO is that many reviews raved about how good ICECO customer service is. I figure if I am going to put out a big chunk of money for a cooler, I want great customer service too. I plugged this cooler into my home outlet. It is very easy to understand the functions and operations. My thermostat reached 34 degrees from 74 degrees in 35 minutes. I have a celebratory beer chilling in it right now. I can't wait til the wiring in my van is done so I can run this off my solar and lithium batteries. Thanks again JASONOID for doing such a great review.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, I sure love my VL45!
@Don-md6wn Жыл бұрын
My VL45 was delivered Saturday and I found it standing on its side even though the package clearly said Fragile, This Side Up. Fortunately, it had only been sitting there for 20 minutes at most because I'd recently come in from walking the dog and it wasn't there. I was hopeful that the package had been shipped right side up until the delivery guy put it on its side. I brought the box into the house, put it down right side up and let it sit for almost 24 hours before I unboxed it and hooked it up. It seems fine, runs quietly when it cycles on at the minimum compressor speed and appears to be very efficient. I've had the VL45 hooked up to a new Jackery 1000 Pro (which was charged to 100%, then unplugged) portable power generator. I cooled the Iceco down to 38 degrees on a wall plug, then plugged it into the Jackery, put 13 half liter bottles of cold water in, and set the Iceco temperature to 34 degrees. The Iceco has been running off the Jackery for over 21 hours now in my kitchen with an ambient temperature of 71 degrees, and the Jackery is at a 63% charge level. I don't want to run the Jackery all the way down to zero charge because that shortens the battery life, but it looks like the Jackery can run the VL45 for about 2 days in these conditions and still have a little bit of charge left. My plan is to use the Jackery and the VL45 on extended camping trips in my Toyota 4Runner. I'll run the VL45 off the 400V AC outlet in the back of the vehicle when I'm driving and plug it into the Jackery when the 4Runner is sitting. Every 2 or 3 days I'll recharge the Jackery on the vehicle AC outlet while the refrigerator is plugged into the Jackery. The Jackery will fully recharge in less than 2 hours without anything plugged in, so it should only take a few minutes more with the refrigerator drawing a little energy. From what I've read, you don't want to keep portable power units charged to 100% all the time and use them for pass through charging any more than necessary because it shortens the battery life.
@the_original_landcruisers4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review. That plus your father--in-law saying it would be one of his top three favs, made me pull the trigger with your discount code. Not to mention this model is on sale right now, so that combined with your discount got me a sweet price!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
The discount code worked plus the sale?! Wow! Crazy deal 👍 Thanks for watching!
@JedWunderli2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the VL60pro on Sunday and used your discount code - saved $90+. Thanks.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! That's been my go to fridge for my camping trips this year, excellent performance!
@brpnw4r942 жыл бұрын
Just pulled the trigger after watching/listening/reading numerous reviews and or videos. I trust your honesty, Jason. Next mod is that we'll known pesky 12v plug. Already have a simular DIY build using Powerwerx/Blue Sea outlets/panels. Cheers.
@idahomountainelk3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video. I ordered the vl45, cover, and slide. For now, I’ll use 2 rv batteries and a 100 watt solar panel. I plan on pairing this setup with a jackery for multi function use as emergency backup at home. Thanks for the sweet deal!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You're going to love it, thanks for watching! Still love my VL45
@fcbrants3 жыл бұрын
Looks great, thanks for sharing. I decided on the Iceco after viewing your 11 fridge review, your specs & spreadsheet (end of the 11 fridge review, for those who haven't seen it yet) + the Danfoss compressor. This video just confirms ;-) My German Shepherd will Only eat raw meat now (from my friends at Texas Tripe), so I will need to keep 60 pounds of meat frozen hard (without fail) in my RV for a 30 day outing. I will be buying two of the 74 liter fridges (with your code, of course ;) when I pull the trigger. Your videos have been very helpful, thank you!!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You will be happy with that VL74, I am wanting to buy one! :)
@ekalbkr Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video. After a lot of research, your video sealed the deal. Note: The compressor is made by Danfoss - a very reliable manufacturer of HVAC equipment. I've used their devices for decades without issues. As an old HVAC guy, I have to correct a pet peeve of mine: Refrigeration technically does not "make cold", it REMOVES HEAT from a place where it is not wanted to a place where it is not objectionable. The fan you mentioned is blowing the heat removed from the evaporator outside. Not to worry, how you put it does not detract from your otherwise excellent video. I really appreciate your detailed power usage, but I disagree with your final number of over 800 KWh for 96 hours of use. That would be over $160 of power at average power prices! I think you mean 800+ Watt hours (Wh). That is something you may want to correct in your video. BTW, that is remarkably good efficiency, and what convinced me to get this unit. Thanks to your video, I know it is what I want!
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! At the end of the video, it was supposed to be 800wh of usage, I corrected that error in my pinned comment later on. This is a pretty old video when I was learning all this stuff and in experienced. I have since improved many aspects of my videos. I did an updated version on my channel last fall showing all the ICECO lineup kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdJ8eNF3zLawo30.html
@michaelmedicworldoftanks33fps3 жыл бұрын
I fixed the problem with that red 12v factory cigarette plug! I unscrewed it and there is no spring at all but V shaped stiff metal, the metallic pin is to long for any cigarette socket and once I opened it I shorted the pin for 2mm by using sandpaper and now the whole thing can click into cigarette socked without getting pushed out. Also what I noticed the pin is made of brass and coated with metallic coat, before grinding the pin would feel very hot to the touch wasting energy on heat but now with brass in the pin exposed and making connection that problem has been resolved too, so yeah just grind off the angled pointed 2mm on top of the pin and you will solve 2 problems at once.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks for sharing!
@patriciaribaric34094 жыл бұрын
You have the cleanest healthiest looking fingernails I've ever seen. (Grandma here). Anyway your battery box looks very professional and has the same kind of industrial look as the fridge. YOU'RE HANDY!!! Love the look of the fridge & power box!!! I'm kind of an advertising collector; I'm envisioning the fridge painted "COKE" or PEPSI. oooo how about RC COLA?
@josue_estrada_everywhere3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Ordered the VL45 with your code + PayPal Pay In 4 = $114.40/month 🙌🏽 I have an Engel (in another country) and this VL45 looks/functions very similar aside from the door opening differently (better IMO). Will seal the interior with clear silicone (excellent idea). I also just bought a GoLabs R300, thinking solar panel on the roof of the SUV and leaving the fridge there powered on all the time 😉
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You got a great plan! Thanks for watching and I wish you the best on your adventure! I love the VL45
@Olorin73 жыл бұрын
Your diy advice with the DC cable is fantastic. Exactly what I was looking for!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful! I love Anderson power pole connectors and I use them on all my 12v devices now!
@edwarddo56713 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love this kind of detail... makes me more confident in your review. Thanks for taking the time!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@12vLife4 жыл бұрын
under 10 watts continuous would be very nice for a low budget tiny offgrid cabin running off 1000 watt hours of lithium and a 300 Watt solar panel in sunny place like Florida.
@readyme3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered this exact one. I checked out the new “pro” version and didn’t see it was $200 better. Same electronics and compressor. I also ordered a Bluetti 500w solar generator for it.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I agree, couldn't believe they came in at $200 more.... I'm sure the prices will be dropping when no one buys them at that price! You'll love the VL45, use mine all the time and it's awesome.
@readyme3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I talked with a guy that has both and he said he likes the VL better. He thought it was more sturdy. Handles, hinges etc were better on the VL. The only advantage of the new one was the lid that opened either way.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@readyme I feel they are both the same amount of sturdiness. One thing that's nice is the VL60Pro has much better dimensions than the VL60 normal one. The VL60 standard is really tall and skinny, the VLpro is wider and deeper. For the price I think I will recommend people stay with the VL series and wait for the VLpros to drop in price. I bet they will because I don't see anyone spending $700 for the VLPro 45 when they can get the VL45 for $520...plus with my discount code even cheaper.
@AerialDomeVideography3 жыл бұрын
Well done man I’ve been looking at this fridge for a hot minute and you’re review definitely helped!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
This is the fridge I always recommend to anyone wanting great value, reliability, and efficiency! Can't go wrong with the VL45
@AerialDomeVideography3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid well hopefully the shipping’s now bad and it’ll show up for when my trailer build is done! Again thanks man!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@AerialDomeVideography hopefully you saved some money with my discount code! Congrats on the new fridge, good luck with your trailer!
@AerialDomeVideography3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I’ll try to remember to use it when I order it!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@AerialDomeVideography it takes around $70 off the price of the VL45 if I remember right. All good either way, have a good one.
@randyisfree56714 жыл бұрын
I have two of the iceco a vl45 and the vl65d dual zone fridge and freezer and I love them both the 45 chest I use as a freezer at home and the 65 vld dual zone fridge freezer I run 24/7 in my camper van that I built with my grandson it has a 365 watt single panel mono crystal solar panel the renogy 40 amp mppt charge controller and 414 amp hours of lithium battery Bank and I love these fridge and freezers
@pingpong9093 жыл бұрын
I'm debating between vl45, vl60 single, or vl60dual however I'm not sure what fits me best. What do you recommend for someone that goes weekends to 5-6 days offroading/camping? One reason I want the vl60 dual is to split the freezer to store icecream :) however the size might be too big for my Lexus gx470.. but I'm not sure if that's too large and the vl45 too small. Any advice would be great!
@randyisfree56713 жыл бұрын
@@pingpong909 I like the vl60dual zone in my van I like ice cream too
@facelesssman3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to say thank you very much for your very informative and well presented video. I was willing to pay more for another brand, but your video convinced me that this was just as good of a model as the other brand.... so I saved a bunch of money and this will be a welcome addition to my Truck Fridge I have in my Vanagon..... great channel, and I look forward to kore of your videos! Oh.... and I used your code and saved even more money.... so thank you for that as well.....🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸
@michaelpaiz23473 жыл бұрын
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@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Iceco fit in a perfect place in the market!
@chatgris63013 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that many 12 volt plugs contain internal fuses. For safety add an inline fuse to your new cable.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
All ICECO fridges have a built in fuse right in the connector port, and all the battery boxes I use have a fuse. No fuse needed in the power cable.
@jeffl60894 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. You covered a lot of important topics. Well presented!
@bottomlinebassin20013 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man I'm using this fridge in a pop-up overland build. You answered my questions 💪🏻🐟
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
It sure is an awesome fridge! Thanks for watching!
@GXOverland3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help! You’re a big reason why I picked up a ICECO TR60 today! Just put up a first look video on my channel!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Did you pick it up from their Cali location personally? Did you meet Lu?
@vwjeff2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered this fridge thank you for the information on the 12 volt system using your link
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
You'll love it! This fridge is super efficient!
@mnswamp2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered, using your discount code. Thanks for the great reviews!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
The VL45 is still my go to recommendation for an efficient and reliable fridge! Great choice 👍😁
@netrun43 жыл бұрын
If you wanted a side hustle you could sell ready-made improved 12v cables 👍
@bottomlinebassin20013 жыл бұрын
I would buy one
@kriskeilman20873 жыл бұрын
He should sell his diy batteries. I had a battery built out of a 12qt cooler. It is a 12v 35ah lead acid battery. I am looking for a new battery that is a lifepo4
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
New 100ah DIY lifepo4 battery build coming to the channel soon, waiting for all the parts to show up.
@jetset808 Жыл бұрын
you should put a metal plate at the bottom as a guard. it will help conduct too
@Woodyt3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the great review, and discount code. Saved me almost 80 bucks. My arb just died so this will be a even better replacement cause I like the chest type better. Keep up the good reviews.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You'll love it
@CanuckQuest2 жыл бұрын
your reviews clicnched this for me. Thank you
@billley39603 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! I only wish I had found it a couple of days ago. I purchased a 53qt Rockpals 12v fridge online through Walmart (cheapest price) and it's due to be delivered in a few days. I think I'll see if I can return it as I'd much prefer this Iceco model, even at $150 more
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I had Rockpals send me out a fridge for review last year. It did so bad I didn't even make a video on it. It could have been a dud of a unit though. You may have a good experience with yours.
@billley39603 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid oh, that's not good. I have the YCD50P ordered, but even though I can't cancel, I believe I can return it to a local walmart. I really couldn't find many reviews on the Rockpals fridge, which I guess should have been a sign so I think I'll order the VL45 and hope I'm not stuck with 2 12v refrigerators. Thanks again for your reviews, they really do help
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@billley3960 make sure to use my discount code it should save you like $65 or more
@billley39603 жыл бұрын
My Rockpals fridge arrived today and I immediately shipped it back and bought the Iceco VL45 (with code) Weird that the Rockpals and Iceco both ship out from the same place (Ontario CA)
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@billley3960 Yeah, must be a large shipping port nice n close for getting all these products quickly from China. You'll love your ICECO VL45, I am doing a new video this week featuring my VL45. Happy Fridging!
@livingcoramdeo4 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine today! Thanks for the 15% off.
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
You will love it! Such a great fridge!
@Nottazippo4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding !
@chansformer3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, very informative. Thanks for the review.
@Cryo8374 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!!! Thank you!!!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@TwoFeatherChannel3 жыл бұрын
How does the ICECO VL45 compare to the ICECO iCOOLER, as to the wall and lid thickness insulation value goes? I like the full lid opening and vintage style of the VL45 but also like the drain plug, sealed inner lining of the yeti style of the iCOOLER.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
They use the same compressor so they should be around the same efficiency. The VL45 has slightly thicker walls and lid so will do better with freezing temps. The VL45 also has slightly more room. The JPC42 is tougher and won't dent because it's rotomolded plastic. I think it comes down to personal preference. You can't go wrong with either. My 15% discount code will only work for the VL45, the JPC42 came out after my discount code was created so it isn't valid for that model.
@gp47083 жыл бұрын
Could you advise of the side to side internal measurements of the larger compartment (not including the compressor space) hope that makes sense. Appreciate your review.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay, somehow missed this comment. The larger compartment measures 14 inches wide and 10 inches deep.
@LoneStarPrepping3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Im thinking about getting one...
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You should!
@danielames39373 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. It helps a lot.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@fredir35962 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve decided on the VL45 because of your videos (and your father in law). Would your battery setup keep the VL45 going with a 100w solar panel and average sunlight? I’m in Virginia I expect 80°-90° weather during my trip. I was thinking about building a battery box like yours, probably with a lithium battery.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Great choice Fredi, the VL45 is such a tank! You'd get great run times off a 100 watt solar panel, 100ah LiFePO4 battery and a charge controller. Would be an excellent setup. Check out this charge since you could charge the battery off your car and the solar panel! Charger: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fspyl5OQuLDKYHU.html Demo of Fridge off 100 watt panel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e8iCdJqXt93Zj6c.html
@fredir35962 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid hey, thanks! This is exactly what I want to do (dc/dc charger).
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
@@fredir3596 its nice because it allows for both solar and DC to DC Charging, such an AWESOME charger!
@tonymai18442 жыл бұрын
I would make the new 12v connection for the fridge. The one comes with the fridge is junk. soon or later it will fail. I would make a new cable with 10 gauge, solder the connector to the plug on the fridge. other end would be the anderson connector like you have in the video, other bolt direct to the battery. Voltage wont drop and causing the fridge motor wont loose any voltage.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great plan! I don't have any issues with 12 awg landscape cable, hardly any voltage drop. 10awg would work great too.
@Chubbydippin2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the segment. Liking the reviews of this brand. Think I'm gonna get one. "The metal inside is not super super thick"? Don't get it. Just say it's thin.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this video is a bit old. Thinking about re-making it since my videos are much better now. Still my favorite go to fridge for price and performance!
@pwatom222 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@mobiltec2 жыл бұрын
Just got mine. Got it cold, filled it up with food and then had a terrible time finding the right temp. The read out on the fridge is 11 degrees off. When the read out says 32 degrees F, it is actually 41 inside. Sup with that:?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
The temp swings up and down depending on if the compressor is running or not. If you measure right when the compressor stops, the temp will be the lowest. If you measure after the compressor has been off for awhile, it will be the warmest. This is normal for all 12v fridges (Even your fridge in your house does this). The key is finding the right 'window' of temp you want. I find that setting the fridge around 33 - 35 will get me in that window without freezing my food. As long as the food inside stays within the 32-43 window is won't spoil. Fun thing I noticed when I was using coolers with ice, my food would often be in the upper 40s and lower 50s at the end of a trip. So much better with a 12v fridge.
@mobiltec2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the explanation. From watching it I've seen exactly what you are talking about.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
You'll find the number that works best for your setup with a little more testing. The other thing to remember is that the coolest part of the fridge is the bottom since all the cold air sinks. Just put your meats and dairy at the bottom, produce and less cool stuff at the top and you'll be golden.
@MrWinger19513 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see you verify that the temperature readout was in fact accurate by measuring the internal temperature of the cooler with foods and drinks while in operation. Using a simple temperature infrared "gun" would give very important information.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I use a small refrigerator thermometer, the display is accurate within 2 degrees, check out my newer reviews, I show more information on those reviews.
@MrWinger19513 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I just watched your most recent vid posted on July 13 featuring the Iceco JP60 and you mention and show the thermometer but I didn't see where you did a direct comparison of the temperature of the food inside and the outside temperature reading on the unit itself. I want to know if there is any discrepancy between the two readings. Thanks.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWinger1951 the most accurate Iceco fridges are the VL and VL pro series because the temp sensors are exposed to the internal temps of the fridge. The lcd display is usually within 2 degrees of the screen. That's the way it is with all brands, the display isn't exact.... Well most budget brands are actually worse than Iceco lol...
@MrWinger19513 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Well, the LCD screen readout on my new ICECO VL45 is 7 degrees above the measurable internal food and drinks temperatures using an infrared temperature gun. And since you review ICECO's you should include that info in your vids, actual measurements.
@MrWinger19513 жыл бұрын
@Jasonid Correction, the internal temperature of the fridge is 7 degrees ABOVE the LCD readout.
@richardreyes54984 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I bought this fridge last year and love it! They must have up graded the 12v plug, mine looks different and I’ve had no issues with it! Btw.. got mine for $375 👍
@Hathasolar12 жыл бұрын
I use the baskets so you never have to lug the frige full of food. Set your fridge in your truck, pack food in the baskets in the kitchen, bring out and set in place.... saves this old back....
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I have since learned that trick haha, very very helpful to save on weight while moving the fridge! Thanks Wes!
@snoozeyoulose94162 жыл бұрын
Good review.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mapyzer4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks. I was just wondering can the lid be switched so it opens the other direction?
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
No, just opens one direction.
@jkuoverland85074 жыл бұрын
Great review, was waiting for for another company to get stock back in but they have no stock for more than 6 months. So with your 15% off code, just bought one. Thanks great job!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
@@jkuoverland8507 Glad you were able to save some money! Have a great day!
@johnbailey99032 жыл бұрын
it would be great if you could explain how you wired the back panel of your 4runner.Thank you for all your videos.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I can write down that video for a future video. Thanks!
@davidc1961utube3 жыл бұрын
Good review! I have a couple of questions about your power usage slide. Am I correct to presume that you meant total watt-hours used, and not kilowatt-hours used? Also, I presume the duty cycle was 16 hours running and 80 off, and not minutes. Finally, how level do these units have to be? My basement 120v chest freezer said to let it sit 24 hours after tilting it. I am hoping that a unit meant to be portable does not have these restrictions.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Watt hours is probably the right term. The compressor duty cycle varies per temperature outside, but the compressor in my testing at 70`F would run for 16 minutes, and then it would sit idle for 80 minutes and they cycle back on again for another 16 minutes. Very good performance. Not hours. I believe you can tilt these units up to 30 degrees without issues.
@michaelamity80802 жыл бұрын
where does condensation go if it drips to the bottom of the fridge? there are cracks..so i don't think it would pool...
@TheStevencmance Жыл бұрын
How do I change the temperature read out from Celsius to Fahrenheit?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Turn on the fridge by pressing the power button. Then press and hold the 'settings button' & and the 'negative button' at the same time for 3 seconds to toggle between the temperature values of Celsius & Fahrenheit. I think it also mentions this process in the owners manual.
@jkuoverland85074 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos do code, just bought one😁
@ReginaCreates22 жыл бұрын
thanks for this review! how is it holding up after 2 years? I'm looking for a portable fridge to use as a backup to my home fridge and also for a very low watt fridge that i can, at times, run off my bluetti portable power station. your input is much appreciated!!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Still rocking it. It's a great reliable model!
@LiquidTurbo Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid did you end up applying the silicone caulking in the end?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@LiquidTurbo yes, clear caulk works great
@EricGonzalez-bd1qd2 жыл бұрын
This is a year old video but I'm just now getting into these 12v fridge. I have a question. How would you compare this VL45 to the JP40 or even JP50?? Currently, there are Prime day sales. I'd torn between the Vl45, jp40 and jp45! Doubt I will see a reply on time but I guess it's worth a shot. Thanks for the video either way! Very informative 👏
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the divider on the JP series, its wasted space since that area on the shelf in the divider is 15 degrees warmer. I like the rugged and efficiency of the VL45 more.
@EricGonzalez-bd1qd2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid oh wow! I didnt realize the jp had dividers!!!! I ordered both the jp40 and jp50 since its prime free returns but didn't pull the trigger on the vl because it's not free returns lol. But If the jp had dividers, I assume the vl45 may actually fit more than the jp50?? Or close... As far as efficiency, do you know if the vl45 is more efficient than the jp?? Thanks for the reply I didn't think I'd get one lol.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
@@EricGonzalez-bd1qd you should watch this video, it's goes over all the fridges, at least most of them from Iceco kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdJ8eNF3zLawo30.html
@MrButuz4 жыл бұрын
Dang i wish we could buy these in the UK they look perfect!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they will expand their distribution. They have distributors listed on their website. Check them out.
@MrButuz4 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thanks it looks like US and Australia only at the moment sadly :(
@professionalaesthetics4 жыл бұрын
Greats videos. I’ve been researching a lot and am trying to decide between this VL 45 and the 3 in 1 iceco ice chest. For a 2010 Honda Accord, camping for 4 days straight in Utah. Any pointers? I’m wondering which has better insulation/is better on power usage since I’ll be using the car battery. Thanks so much!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
I live in Utah, hope you enjoy your trip here! The VL45 is more efficient due to more insulation. The VL45 is also a little larger. Id recommend that one and it's on sale on their website currently. As for tips, take a volt meter with you and don't let the voltage drop below 12volts on your battery when the fridge is off. When it drops around that level run your car for 15 to 20 minutes to charge the battery. Usually it needs to run once in the morning and once at night depending on how large the battery is. My accord came with the smallest battery in the world and I swapped it out for a bigger one (I have a video for that project on my channel). If you park in the shade and keep the car Temps as cool as possible the fridge will run much less. You can crack the windows as well to keep it cooler. If the car is too hot the fridge will run constantly and your battery will run down faster.
@professionalaesthetics4 жыл бұрын
Jasonoid Thanks so much for the response! I saw the accord video you had and thought holy cow this guy has the same set-up as me, and he will surely know what the best choice is! My accord came with the same tiny battery and I switched it out about 2 years ago. I got a bigger one, hopefully it will do fine. Thank you so much for the tips. Glad to know the accord can charge the battery in just 15-20 mins, it should be fine. Thanks again for the thorough and great videos!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
@@professionalaesthetics my 4runner charges that quick so that would be my quess, you'll just have to watch the voltage. Enjoy your trip!
@TheStevencmance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. I have a question how do I change the temperature read out from Celsius to Fahrenheit?
@scottmcdonald18194 жыл бұрын
I have the iceco JP40, which is basically the same thing as the indel b 40. How do you think this compares to the vl4
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
The ICECO JP40 / IndelB 40 are very good. The have Secop compressors. The temperature swings a little bit more on the IndelB meaning that it goes higher before the compresser turns back on (at least the one we tested). The main benefit to the VL45 is you have one large 'chest fridge' area and not two with a divider. It's also more insulated. You can't go wrong with either one.
@MyWasteOfTime2 жыл бұрын
I think you meant 828 "Watt Hours" not "Killawatt Hours". Great video though!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Yep, learned a lot since this video sorry about the errors, newer videos are much higher quality. This fridge is my go to recommendation, such a heavy duty and reliable model!
@MyWasteOfTime2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid No worries, thank you for the video. I'm starting my investigation into purchasing a frig and your video was at top of the list in the search!
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
@@MyWasteOfTime check out my ICECO comparison video, you'll see all their models in one video, power usage and features to save you hours of time! It's in my 12v fridge Playlist on my channel main page.
@michaelkleist94823 жыл бұрын
I'm having trouble running on 12 volts on 110 it works great wont cool below 60 degrees on 12 volt..
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't power on? Any errors on the display? Iceco has a support number you can call on their website. Leave a message if they don't answer, they are great to get back to you.
@Findingthecalm2 жыл бұрын
I get the E1 and E3 errors with mine on 12V but it works great on 110 as well. I’ve been in touch with them and I’ve even ordered the 12V step up to 13.9V plug that they make to help stabilize it and that didn’t work either. Im afraid I now have to send it back.
@aperson1186 Жыл бұрын
So, mine was delivered on it side. Seems to be cooling down fine, but I am I interested…does the motor normally have a quiet, low whining noise?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
How long I did you let it sit vertical before powering it up?
@TheStevencmance Жыл бұрын
How do I change the temperature read out from C to F
@ted6580 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a mini freezer to use in my home that’s frost-free so I don’t have to manually defrost. I’m looking to keep it running continuously plugged in. These portable fridge/freezers are the only ones I’ve found that are auto-defrost in this size. Are there any drawbacks to using this as a continuously running mini-freezer in my home that I’m overlooking?
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
These do not support auto defrosting so if you live in a humid environment you'll get ice buildup in freezer mode and water in fridge mode. I'm not sure if there's a 12v fridge with a defrost feature.
@waynehamilton52483 жыл бұрын
Try to find silicon that isn't corrosive (it doesn't smell like vinegar) I've been looking at this one. Thanks for your detailed video.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You make an interesting point. The inside of this printer is aluminum, it's not magnetic at least.... Do you think the silicone would be corrosive on that?
@waynehamilton52483 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid it wouldn't hurt the aluminum but the smell would be awful.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@waynehamilton5248 I've used that silicone before, once it dries the smell goes away. Just leave the lid open until it cures.
@anthonychan8370 Жыл бұрын
is the VL series more insulated than the VL Pro S series?
@ryoc21383 жыл бұрын
Which anderson outlet did you use on the box? I won't be using a power box like yours, but I have multi 12v outlet in the back of my Jeep where I'll plug in the fridge.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I used this panel on my battery box, I also installed a similar one in my 4Runner. They work great! amzn.to/2JB9hzq
@markpuffer96152 жыл бұрын
I have a truck that has a 110v receptical. Just wondering how that could be better than the 12v plug you mentioned?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, you should be able to run the fridge off your built in inverter, however that usually shuts off when the engine is turned off or the key is removed so you'll want to have a back up power in place when you are running your engine.
@mynextketchfrontier63513 жыл бұрын
I wonder would this fridge work well for a sail boat..With the motions of the ocean? What do you think?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Should be fine for sailing. I've had others mention they use it in their boats. I've used mine in a slow off roading trail multiple times and haven't had issues. Now bouncing around and not having it tied down would probably cause damage.
@lasseholtzer85903 жыл бұрын
hello Jason, i'm planning on buying a new fridge to take out on my camping trips and am set on getting an iceco....so i have to make a choice between the JP42 and the VL45.....can you pleas advice me witch on to get that best suits my needs? thanks...
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I would actually advise on either the VL45 or the TR60. I have reviews of both those fridges on my channel so I would suggest you watch both of those videos to compare them. The VL45 is heavy and tough. The TR-60 has much more capacity and is around the same efficient but weighs a little less. They both have the same compressor and are SOLID buys. Couldn't go wrong with either. I don't quite like the JP42 as much because it is heavy and has the least capacity. It sure is a tank though! Let me know if you have any questions about either of them. Thanks for watching!
@joysassoon90033 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of buying this one, but what's the pro or con of the JP42? I would plug into my bluetti for camping . I cannot lift either one, but with 2 of us at each handle, it's doeable.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
The VL45 is more efficient, the jpc42 is more durable /water proof inside. They both are great fridges! I would chose either of them
@Fvck-diversity Жыл бұрын
I am sold on this fridge!!
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
It's my favorite mid size fridge!
@Fvck-diversity Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Just ordered it with your discount, now I need to figure out how long it would run on a 100AH battery or if I should just get 2 100AH batteries, I really Dont see it running more than a day or two without some kind of charge.... hmmmmm
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@Fvck-diversity runtime depends on outside temps. Near 70f you'd get like 5 days of runtime, near 85F to 90F you'd get like 3 days of runtime.
@Fvck-diversity Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid that sounds sweet, I think I will design my system with one 100AH now and leave a slot big enough to add a 2nd if needed, still thinking I'll get a 175 w panel for on top of the Camper, its a FWC project M :)
@gp47083 жыл бұрын
Can you advise what the internal side to side measurement is of the larger compartment? Thank you!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay, somehow missed this comment. The larger compartment measures 14 inches wide and 10 inches deep.
@kaylavaldes56803 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed the temperature fluctuate on your vl45? Mine is rarely at the set temperature. For example, right now I have it set to 36 degrees fahrenheit but the current temp it displays is 30. Is that normal?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
The temps get much more constant when food is in the fridge. The more empty the fridge is the more the temps will fluctuate. I'm not worried too much when the temps are lower than the display, the bigger issue is when the temps are above and your food goes bad.
@LeftyMcgee8084 жыл бұрын
Have you tried or heard of Blizzardbox cooler? Wondering how that cooler is.. i think it has a good compresser in it
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
I have not seen a Blizzardbox Cooler in person. If the quality and price is right you might want to try it. The best fridge I have tested is the ICECO VL series.
@LeftyMcgee8084 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid there from Costco
@treasurethetime24633 жыл бұрын
Ok. I need an opinion please. Lv45 or the 3 in 1? Other than the built in ac adapter, is there any other reason to opt for the lv? I mean, it doesn't have a drain and the insulation properties are probably comparable, yes?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
VL series is more insulated, better efficiency. The 3 in 1 is more durable/ tougher. If you plan to have your fridge in the sun at all, the white 3 in 1 will perform the best. You always want to shade these fridges when possible though. They both have similar storage space. You cant go wrong with either one in my opinion.
@treasurethetime24633 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid thanks! It's prime day and that helped me decide.
@fatmanhikes2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I just bought one of these coolers, question, I have a diesel with 2 batteries as most diesels have, how long do you think I can safely run this 12v with engine off b4 I have issues with starting. Thanks.
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave! It's always best to run your fridge off a separate battery so you never leave yourself stranded, but since you have two batteries, you could probably get through a night just fine. Vehicle batteries usually have 30 to 40 amp hours of usable capacity.
@jenniferwise85153 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a good working 12v socket I can buy that works with no sautering and tinkering? If I am spending over $400 I want it ready to go ac or dc.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You will probably be okay with the stock cable, you just need to be mindful it can come out. In the video description you will find the "better" cables. With some simple soldering you can make the changes.
@g-whiz2864 жыл бұрын
The Iceco website would not accept your discount code (REVIEWSALE-JASONOID). I was ready to pull the trigger. What did I do wrong? I found the problem. Your discount code works ONLY for the VL45. I want to get the dual zone (VL60).
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
It may be expired, I got that about 3 months ago and they have a expire date, it may have hit 3 months. I am waiting for a call back from them, I hope to get it renewed or refreshed soon!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
I just tested and the discount code still works, add the fridge to your cart, then apply the following discount code: REVIEWSALE-JASONOID
@johnmorrison69813 жыл бұрын
Do you have any insight as to how to mount it using the bottom mounting plate?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I haven't used any mounting system for these fridges. I know ICECO makes a sliding drawer system. Not sure what documentation comes with it. I think it does have screw holes on the bottom of the fridge.
@tylerf52233 жыл бұрын
Is the lid strong enough to sit on as a seat? Or even to stand on?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I sit on it on occasion but standing isn't probably the best idea. Its a durable fridge. It depends how much you weigh.
@Sbrenno943 жыл бұрын
Can you change the display to Celsius?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Yes, most of these fridges support both
@chapter4travels4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused by your power consumption numbers. You say 8.63 watts continuous then say 16 minutes on and 80 minutes off. 8.63 watts continuous would be 207 watt/hours per day. 16 minutes on and 80 minutes off at 8.63 watts would be 34.5 watt/hours per day.
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
Outside ambient temperature, the temperature set point of the fridge and amount of food inside adjust the run cycles on these fridges. In our testing, at 70 degrees Fahrenheit, the fridge pulls 35 watts while to compressor is running, and then turns off for a period of time. If you take the total kilowatts consumed over a length of time you get my "watts continuous" number. For example... 800 kilowatt hours /100 hours of running the fridge = 8 watts continuous. When the fridge compressor is off it doesn't use any power.
@chapter4travels4 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Gotcha, so 207 watt hours per day or 17.25 amp hours at 12v of battery storage. This is the important number for camping off grid. Thanks for the review!
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
@@chapter4travels sorry I didn't post the info in that way, yes, Amp hours per day would have been a great thing to plan for. The main thing to remember is that ambient Temps and the fridge set point affect power draw quite a bit. Happy fridging! I'm never going back to ice haha
@billley39603 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't a help forum, but do you or anyone reading happen to know how to access the "Temperature Compensation Mode" of the VL-45? Iceco responds to emails in poor English (guessing they are Chinese?) and only gave me instructions for the VL 60, using the Mode button, which the VL45 doesn't have. I love my new VL45 but temperature is off by about 8°
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
How are you measuring your temperature inside? Just curious how you know it's off by 8 degrees.
@billley39603 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I was using two Acurite 00986 digital refrigerator thermometers. The VL45 display was showing it had reached 0°, compressor not running, and the Acurite thermometers were showing 7 and 8°. It definitely gets below freezing but not quite cold enough for ice cream products. Oh, I also bought the cover using your code, thanks
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@billley3960 it will be colder at the bottom of the fridge and near the sides, I usually like to place my thermometer sitting on something about 6 inches tall in the middle of the large compartment. As long as you put meats at the bottom everything else should be fine.
@billley39603 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I have one thermometer sitting on ledge above compressor and other in top of a cup of water, so about 4" above the bottom. Overnight the temp was set to 27° and just checking now, thermometer was 35° and water wasn't yet frozen. At one point, I did have fridge filled with pre frozen foods to test but now testing with just small plastic cups filled with water
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@billley3960 each fridge has its own "personality" once you find out where it likes to be set, you don't have to mess with it much. My VL45 likes to be set at 34 degrees to keep things from freezing and the inside averages around 33 to 35 degrees.
@MegaMusicka3 жыл бұрын
I hate no smooth walls inside plus the corner crack need silicone. Bacteria grow nest. Dies have any drain for washing? Will be nice to make plastic liner have way to the bottom I'll be easy to clean no nasty bottom. Just ideas
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
I do recommend using a food grade silicone in the corners to seal it up. I have two models, one is siliconed and one is not. No smell issues on either one because liquid doesn't really get in these fridges because you don't use ice. Check out the new ICECO VLPro series, they upgraded the design on this fridge and made it better. Same great compressor but it has a better lid design and drain plug. I have a new video on my channel and I compare this to that one.
@MegaMusicka3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid thank you
@bigal9244 жыл бұрын
It’s a danfoss compressor
@djordan79793 жыл бұрын
How long would this run on my Anker 200w portable battery?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
It uses about 300wh of power to run the fridge for 24 hours in the summer. So the 200wh battery pack wouldn't last the entire day unless you were charging it in the sun. You just have to experiment in most cases. I always recommend at least 500wh for battery storage just to be safe
@djordan79793 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid thanks! And yeah I thought it would be about a day. I'm looking at a 1000w
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@djordan7979 most common is the Jackery 1000, it has regulated 12v output so it lasts much longer while using a fridge. Cheaper models don't have regulated outputs.
@djordan79793 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid yep looking at that one. There's a new one out by pecron that's apparently better than Jackery 1000
@OCMike4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the new Iceco expandable fridge? I'm torn between the VL45 and that one.
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
I haven't tested the expandable cooler yet, ICECO hasn't offered a review for that one. The VL45 is proven, our extended family has 3 of them, all of them run exactly the same, no issues whatsoever. Great efficiency as well. Save 15% with my discount code and any fridge on their website.
@roberts81342 жыл бұрын
Has anyone had this for some time and can comment on how long it lasts before breaking down?
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I have had mine for 3 years, no issues yet. I also have had 3 or 4 truckers mention they have VL45s in their rigs. They have been running them 365 for over 1 or 2, no issues. I've been very impressed.
@420BLUNTLEY2 жыл бұрын
How long can it run on a Jackery 1000
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
With an average of 30 watts @95F temps, it would 30 hours, if you were running it in 75F ambient, you'd get about 70 hours runtime. Depends on ambient temps mostly.
@420BLUNTLEY2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid oh well that’s good
@AndreyUlanovxzzz3 жыл бұрын
It's spelled kilowatt, not "Killawatt". "Kill a watt" is a brand name.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction.
@snake105663 жыл бұрын
Am I having a brain fart... Isn't there supposed to be a decimal in front of that 828? 0.828 KWhr?
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
Yep, mistakes were made in the editing of this video haha
@snake105663 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid ok, no worries. I was moreso concerned for my own sanity cause I thought I was wrong. Haha.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@snake10566 For example: The VL 45 pulled 0.828 KWhr total over the duration of testing. Converting .828kWh into Amp hours at 12 volts = 69amp hours / 96 hours of total running of the fridge = .71 amp hours per hour at 70 degrees ambient. If the temps are higher you get more power draw, especially at temps about 90 degrees. Sorry for the confusion!
@princeifeanyindukauba87933 жыл бұрын
Please I need this unit how can I get and how much is it and how can get here in nigeria lagos Maryland
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
You can buy it directly from ICECO, all the info is in the video description.
@ganemis20514 жыл бұрын
how long does the iceco last with your diy solar generator? cool vid
@Jasonoid4 жыл бұрын
It will last 24 hours without solar, with solar panels it runs forever... Well at least until I run into a cloudy day. When it's cloudy I just hook my solar generator to my 4runner battery and the run my engine and it charges it pretty fast.
@cjdoig453 жыл бұрын
I need this in a 32 to 37 liter size!!!
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
They offer the JP30 on their website, similar performance but not full metal design.
@cjdoig453 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid thanks for the reply. Their website doesnt appear up to date. Found the VL35 on Amazon but 50lbs is too heavy. Went with the Anuruvik? 37. 33 lbs and a 30% off coupon. $238. Out the door. Now to build your battery box.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@cjdoig45 I have never seen the VL35, just the 45 and up. Which box you building, lead acid or lifepo4?
@cjdoig453 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid watching the video for the lifepo4, again. Probably that one.
@Jasonoid3 жыл бұрын
@@cjdoig45 I'd recommend going with even bigger capacity than 80ah, it's not much more in cost to nearly double the power!