Tim Allen is like my friends Dad. He never remembers any details accurately but he’s always in the ballpark.

I could watch this every week.

Tim describing the 22B (presumably) while getting literally every detail wrong is hilarious.

America's 90s Dad. Loved this man growing up. Still do.

It's really impressive how Tim Allen is so willing to admit that he doesn't know every gearhead detail behind his RS200. Let the haters crap on him. But a real man knows his limitations and recognizes that sometimes the strongest answer is "I don't know." Plus Tim clearly loves this car. 👍

I haven't seen Tim Allen in years and watching this is like seeing an old friend that is exactly the same as the last time you saw him

Tim’s honesty sure shines when he tries to recall details. What a great little car too. Thanks Jay and team.

Jay Leno… the humblest car enthusiast ever… we love you jay and Tim!

Breaks my heart that these 2 legends had to get old. I still watch home improvement.

This level of friendship is a rare sight nowadays. These guys have been at it for decades 😂

Thank you for showing this car! I did quite a bit of research on the RS200. Even if the World Rally Championship doesn’t seem famous in North America, the RS200 was, shall I say, relative successful there. 200 cars have been made for homologation, of which some 50 have been dismantled again as spare parts for rallying. Of the remaining cars 12 made it to USA and 1 to Canada. Tim Allen’s car is # 165 of 200. I think I can offer a few interesting things that Tim Allen and Jay Leno were not too sure about: The Ford RS200s were assembled at Reliant, most famous for small 3-wheeler cars as the #ReliantRobin. This may sound very surprising. But the RS200 was designed by Ghia and engineered by Ford Motorsport UK. So for assembly the company didn’t need to be a sports car manufacturer, it needed to be someone who can run such a small production and has experience with composite materials and that made Reliant an obvious choice. While basically everything, chassis etc. was specially made for the RS200, it borrowed many parts especially from the Ford Sierra. Rear lights, windscreen, shortened doors and some dashbord panels are all from the Europen Ford Sierra, that in the USA was briefly sold as the Merkur XR4Ti. The RS200 engine indeed has nothing to do with Lotus. This is a falso information. However I can see where this misconception may come from. In World Rallying Ford used the Lotus Cortina. Next came the smaller and lighter Ford Escort RS, and despite the Lotus bit missing in its name the rally Escorts at first had the 1.6L Lotus engine from the Cortina. But over the years this engine became too small, so Cosworth designed a larger “BDA” engine based on Ford’s own Kent 4-cylinder to replace the Lotus engine in the early Escorts. This engine was then used as a turbo charged “BDT” 1.8L in the RS200. It is not entirely correct to say the rally versions had a 2.1L engine. In 1986 the works rally cars also had the 1.8L and power output was “only” 420BHP. And it was not only the accident in Portugal 1986 that killed the groupB, next was the sad deaths of Henri Toivonen and his btw USA based codriver Sergio Cresto on Corsica that eventually drew the line. As for the engines, in rallying there was a regulation that identified a minimum weight in line with engine size. Most teams chose a 1.8 that with turbo factor (x1.4) fitted the 2.5L class. The Ford RS200 with its clever transmission layout but a double propshaft was quite heavy and could never profit from the low minimum weight and therefore Ford decided to enlarge the engine to 2.1L (x1.4 = up to 3.0L). With this larger engine power output way beyond 500BHP was possible. Ford developed this larger engine for 1987, but by that time groupB rallying was banned from the WRC. Finally Tim Allen keeps mentioning the groupB Renault and Peugeot. These cars had some body and chassis panels from their road going sisters R5 and 205, but still were very remote from these. Moreover what Tim Allen questions: No, the groupB Renaults and Peugeots have no similarities at all. While Peugeot also owned Talbot and Citroen, Renault is their number 1 competition. It also is seen in the layouts. The groupB Renault R5 engine is longitudinally mid-mounted with rear wheel drive only and as such mainly of use on asphalt. Despite winning Monte Carlo, the R5 was more aimed at French Championship rallying only. The Peugeot 205 T16 has the engine transverse mid-mounted and 4x4 and made to win the World title on all terrains. Winning all titles in 85 + 86 the 205 T16 is probably the biggest icon of groupB today. So they are very, very different projects, but both no doubt fascinating. Hope this was interesting and informative for everyone - maybe even for Tim and Jay.

Ive been watching youtube since its infancy and this is my first ever comment on a video. Mr. Allen I'm 50 years old and yout humor has been part of saving my life. I was injured 16 years ago at age 34 and left in a wheelchair for life. I remember watching you do your standup before your first television show. So thanks for the laughs and your craft and your true love of all automobiles. Mr. Leno I'm out in my shop everyday tinkering on something. Ive watched nearly all your Garage shows and ofcourse late night. Thank you as well sir.....on a note I'd guess based on the RS design that they had to have had plans for hard sells in America but with Pontiac pulling the Fiero there was no point. The crowd had been tested and said NO we want carppy under powered fwd. I took my dad's 86 and a half Fiero GT Fasback v6 on mine and my wifes first date. Still married to the same gal 31 years later....Anyways thank you guys oh and Tim THANKS for the SS Caprice ARARAR!!! P.S. for Tim....I believe people who cant handle dry humor should be seen and not heard...lol

These two together in the same room are great. Their dynamic is so good, going back and forth with jokes and facts. Please do some more content together.

Tim Allen owns an RS200? A true Man Of Culture!

Tim Allen has good taste. Rally cars should be big in America.

I had the pleasure of taking one of the 2 cars belonging to Ford Motor Co UK out for 1/2 hour alone. At the time the car was valued around £250,000. It was a real highlight of my life. Legendary car.

The chassis was designed by former Formula One designer Tony Southgate, and Ford's John Wheeler, a former F1 engineer, aided in early development. A double wishbone suspension setup with twin dampers on all four wheels aided handling and helped give the car what was often regarded as being the best balanced platform of any of the RS200's

I remember as a kid thinking Tim Allen would be the coolest dad, and now I'm a grandfather myself. Time sure flies and so do these guys when they get a chance!

Love the chemistry and dialogue in this video. Would love to see Tim Allen in more videos.

What a treat. Just like friends talking about a cool car. Tim is generous with his praise of Jay’s driving.

Jay is such a legend for continuing to create and upload these videos.

These were the ultimate cars in Europe, along with the Delta S4, Peugeot 205 T16 and Metro 6R4. You can pretend with groupe A and N but these were the ultimate machines. The road versions had to be built to comply with regulations but heavily under tuned compared to the rally cars. Most were pushing out 500bhp weighing less than 900 Kgs. 0-60mph were less than 3 seconds. They were incredible.

I don't care what anyone says this is the most awesome looking car to ever carry the Ford emblem..

Tim Allen was my favorite actor for a long time. It's awesome seeing that he's still doing good. Awesome video, awesome car.

Two generational icons. I’m in my mid 30’s. I grew up watching Home Improvement and The Tonight Show. As a car enthusiast I have so much respect for Tim and Jay. Even as they age as we all will if we’re lucky. Just seeing them together like two pals talking about cars is so satisfying.

My main take away was what great friends Jay and Allen are, loved to see that more than the awesome RS200, and that’s saying something! God bless ‘em both

This is exactly why I like the European Fords. I used to read about this car in car magazines back in the day. Very cool. I saw one of these for sale on-line a few years ago. Thank you.

I went to watch a few stages of the British Lombard/RAC rally back in the 90’s and can tell you, it is like no other motor racing! Watching the Welsh forest stages in the snow was a great experience. The fans had to walk along the narrow dirt tracks that they actually raced on, to get to a decent spectator point. At the sound of the Marshall’s whistle, everybody would dive off the track into the ditches or trees, as you probably had about 10 seconds before a rally car would fly past you at over 100 mph! Looking back now it was incredibly dangerous, but tremendously thrilling. I still have a few photos from back then. Also, on the drive home after the event, you would often be passed by the rally cars, as they had to drive on the road in between stages! That’s an experience you don’t get in F1!

I could watch a weekly show with Tim and Jay all about cars.

Tim Allen and Leno in the same room, nothing can go wrong. 😆👍

I have this vision of Tim Allen only having American hotrods, so seeing him in his own Euro Ford RS200 just blows my mind. Also, Lotus and Cosworth are connected because Lotus introduced the Ford Cosworth DFV engine in F1. However in this case it is all Cosworth, not Lotus.

I worked for Essex Police (England) in the early 80s and the force had one of these gifted by Ford. It had police markings and had some low level lights on the roof. It certainly looked cool, however, the drivers could not handle the clutch in and around town and it didn't last long. Homologation required 200 of these to be built in order to classed as a production car. Good to see this on the road.

These things are lethal. The bodywork was built by Reliant, and Martin Schanche kept them very busy as he bounced around rally cross tracks.

I was lucky enough to have a father who owned an RS500 Cosworth. I know it's not the same car. But, all of those RS models were just nuts! It's still one of my favorite cars to this day.

Tim Allen was like a TV uncle to me, I didn't know he has such a good taste in cars, even here in Europe nobody would recognize this masterpiece other than rally fans! This conversation between the two was awesome 🔥

Honestly? If Jay and Tim ever decided to do a light-hearted car-centric show together on KZfaq? They'd rule the planet! ♥️♥️♥️

I could watch the Jay and Tim show daily! Cruising, eating at greasy spoons, car meetups and even grocery shopping! 🤣 God bless you two gear heads. Two of the best. 👍🏆🏆💯😎💪

Really glad to see that jay’s doing better after the fire incident. I never was a big jay leno show fan but ever since he’s done these shows and I’ve seen him being himself and seeing his passion for cars It’s really humanized him for me. Either way I’m just glad he’s doing alright

I love Jay's JCPenny's wardrobe he has every episode.

Such a fantastic car. Tim was discussing the WRX Sti and they also suffer from the same thing, no real power until 3k-3500 rpms and then they kick. The turbo lag can be fixed with a tune, but higher rpms with lots of turns are where these cars shine.

Watching those Group B cars like the Lancia S4, Peugeot 205 Turbo 16, Metro 6R4 back in the 80's was more exhilarating than just about anything except the turbo era of F1. Dazzling speed and danger. Thrilling. These RS200's are phenomenal looking cars even now.

Tim is so passionate about the car. He talks about it like it’s a wife he’s been married to for 35 years. LOVES her but definitely knows her flaws and isn’t opposed to pointing them out, but loves her to death and APPRECIATES her. Meanwhile (especially for the first few minutes) Jay keeps his head high and doesn’t talk a lot. He’s FEELING the car and examining it like a physician conducting a physical on a patient. This is poetry. This could be a poem.

Here in Europe, Cosworth engines are very well respected!!! The company's name comes from the two men that started it back in 1958, Mike Costin and Keith Duckworth. I have been fortunate to own two Ford Sierra RS 500's and their Cosworth YB engines were bulletproof!!! One was a street-car, but with racecar specs, including a full cage, and the other one was a full blown racecar, capable of competing in Hillclimbs, Rallies and even Drag Races around Europe. They are just 2lt, but one of them produced 854hp on its racing tune, and the other other one gave out 1370hp on its racing tune. They never gave me any trouble, even though they were driven very hard!

I was in Tim’s shop/garage as a kid. I remember that car well… I was amazed, I’d never seen anything like it. It’s crazy to me that 25 years later he still has it!

I love watching Tim and Jay just talk to each other about cars. I could watch this every week. Please make them into a show!

Tim and Jay have awesome unique car collections. That RS200 is badass

Thanks again for taking the time to scour through countless videos! Enjoy it and brings back great memories!

So much respect for these two gentlemen, not only for their care culture inspiration, but their genuine household name presence for us who know

Tim Allen is the man and his RS200 is insanely clean! Love it! He's really a car dude.

Love the channel, and this has to be my favourite Group B car. Since I was a rally fan watching Group B cars in rallying an rallycross back when these cars were new, I might be able to clarify a couple of points: The twin coilover dampers at each corner were for, among other things, heat rejection - single dampers would overheat on long rough stages. The engine is a Ford BDT designed by Cosworth, and is not related to the Lotus Twin Cam. The road car clutch is a racing twin plate item because the homologation rules said you weren't allowed to fit a different clutch to go rallying, so every RS200 has a clutch that'll handle 550bhp. The tubular chassis was designed by Ford and isn't shared with any other car. The main reason it wasn't more successful in rallying against the Peugeot 205 T16 and Lancia Delta S4 was that it was late - Ford spent a long time working on a front-engined car for Group B (the Escort RS1700T), before canning that project and building the RS200. That gave the other manufacturers a 2 year head start on developing their cars.

Tim Allen has two first names. Jay is brutal with the intro “never really caught on in America,” but I really love their chemistry.

The car, the footage, the commentary and the two hosts make this a very awesome video! A dream car!

I love these two together! I wish Jay would have him on more!

For those not aware after the instant ban on group B a lot of the group b rally cars spent many years competing in rallycross in the UK and Europe. martin schanche and his RS200 is legendary for his battles with will gollop in his group b metro 6r4 Towards the end these cars where putting out 900bhp/tonne on a dirt course! In the early 90s😮 Many videos are still available on KZfaq. It is without doubt the most exciting racing I have ever seen.

Jay and Tim are always so much fun to watch together. You can see the friendship between them runs long and deep. Two comedians just bantering back and forth, pure gold. The RS200 is an absolute legend of a car, it's such a pity it's overshadowed by tragedy.

Haha, this reminds me of the MR2 I had with the stage 2 unsprung clutch. Pressing it felt like you were at the gym, but from nothing to engagement was about 2mm, so you had to be both really careful and hard with it. Miss these little race cars, so much character and so fun

I’m in my fifties and from the UK. My dad took me to Group B rally events when I was a teenager, the years from 84 to 86 were just unbelievable, the RS200 was late to the game, the 205T16 Tim mentioned & Sport Quattro were the ones for the fanboys. We kept away from the side of the road but even a long way back you’d be showered with gravel. The Lombard RAC rally often passed near my home in the UK. I once heard someone ask why so many top drivers were Scandinavian - the answer was that at those speeds everything is like driving on ice!

Can Tim be in every episode from now on? Love the banter between these two. 😂

Two of the best entertainment gentlemen in history, and they both love cars !!!

tim allen is amazing. so blessed to grow up around home improvement days. miss having tv like that for my kids.

Two of my favorite people together! Love it when these two get together and entertain us. I really have to meet them and shake their hands to thank them one day.

Man the chemistry with those guys is dope, huge fan of them both! didn't know Tim was about that RS200 life lol

The dynamic between you two is hilarious, love this!

My respect for Tim Allen just drastically increased. Hearing an American just 'get it' when it comes to the art of how we Brit's make rally cars is awesome. I bet he would love the Tourist Trophy races and how we approach that too.

Two legends. Almost feel like Americas uncles. We’re fixtures on tv the years I was growing up. Respect

RS200 is still one of my all time faves. Just love the heck out of it. Great to see it in action!

I love both of these dudes, complete legends.....along with the RS200 of course

I love this cause it like when your grandpa and his buddies meet up with there classics and just talk There chemistry and banter is perfect

I like how Tim Allen is getting into new things. He's an old school, V8, blower motor type of guy ("more power!"), but you can tell he's getting into smaller displacement, turbo cars. I think that's badass! Car guys should be all-inclusive!

If it was allowed here it would have been great to see the unedited/uncut version, because Tim and Jay in a car together would have been over 12hr of recording and the jokes these two have, its great to see them and the fun they have, they are such great friends. Also its a great car too :)

My parents neighbor had one of these during my whole childhood. I loved when his garage door opened and he pulled that car out. I loved it as a kid. Love it even more as an adult. He said he was taking it to auction and I asked if I could buy it instead. He knew that I had no idea what it was worth. He got over $200k for it, whereas I had about $15k to spend on a vehicle haha

Tim & Jay need their own show…they are so at ease with each other…love the quirky conversations.

I love these two 😅. Unlike many rich people who simply buy cars because they can, or for show, these two seem like legitimate car guys that got lucky and made it, and now they’re doing what they really love

The RS200 is a totally insane vehicle. Ken Brock had one and cranked up the boost. Group B was berserk and absolutely bonkers

What a wonderful car! I loved the Group B era! ❤

Tim Allen is one of the Greats and that car looks amazing.

These two guys will always be legends of my childhood!!❤

I had a Matchbox RS200 as a little kid and it always rolled better than the others, so it became my favorite. It lived at my grandmother's house. As an adult I looked up what it was and was stunned to find that the real thing was just as cool as the toy, and it's still my favorite. Hit the lotto tomorrow and that's the first thing I'm buying.

Im 36 and grew up watching both these guys, i love this video as a car guy myself and would love to see more of them together.❤❤❤❤

Jay’s honest love for vehicle engineering is awesome

these are the best episodes, it reminds me so much of talking to my dad about cars and watching him get excited about things he never even knew existed. i love it

Def need more of this kinda collab

RS200 have been a dream car for me since I first saw it beating everyone in rallycross.

Ford Cosworth was a beast, every kid in UK wanted one.

What a cool car. Glad that Jay and Tim are passionate car guys so we get to see these forgotten/unknown gems.... Thanks, guys!

A proper Great British Ford. Love it!!

Thanks for the video. It wasn't just the Ford accidents that led to a ban and withdrawal of the Group B series. Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) had promoted with little regulation a rally series which was out of control in terms of open ended development, cost and lack of safety for competitors and spectators. By 1986 the Group B cars were largely a fuel tank on wheels, fibre glass, aluminium chassis, little bracing and incredibly quick kit cars - great you might say, except these cars were not on a flat, perfect tarmac Formula one circuit with emergency service vehicles and ambulance helicopters every 100 feet. Instead they were hurtling down remote forest tracks, gravel canyons and ice covered roads at +100 MPH. In hindsight, this was completely insane and death waiting to happen, and it came with FIA initially slow to react. The final straw came when Henry Toivonen and his co-driver Sergio Cresto were incinerated in their seats when they left the road during the Tour de Corse on the island of Corsica. The car exploded and by the time anyone got to it there was little left, the vehicle so flammable that it literally went up in flames. In minutes. What made this worse was that Toivonen himself and several other drivers had been complaining for a good deal of time that the vehicles and series were unsafe although such was the contractural, media and revenue pressure that no one in charge was listening. Henry's last public statement was reported as: "Today, we have driven more than the whole distance of the 1000 Lakes Rally (Finnish Rally). After 4 hours of driving - it's hard to keep up with the speed. So, with a modern car like this, it's just impossible to race here. It's physically exhausting and the brains can't keep up with it anymore." As stated insane. Many people died as a result including children. Not motoring's finest hour. RIP.

I love these two together! It’s like watching my two uncles go back and forth!

Can’t even begin to explain how much I love this video. J Leno and Tim Allen are two of my top favorite people.!!!

A Ford Escort rally car from Europe is a totally different car as the Ford Escort from America. The Ford Escort mk II RS 1800 is a rally car legend.

We want Tim Allen again!

Growing up in a rallying family, I have a certain place in my heart for the old rallycars. The ingenuity of the different companies and teams, using rules in a way thats not possible today. And especially Group B, those guys were insane

It was good to see Tim, its been awhile. Jay brother, I'm 39 and I have to say that you and Tim have probably been the biggest car mentors or enthusiasts that put the automotive passion in me. Time flies its hard to believe its been this many years. A lot has changed. It was good to see you two in front of the camera together again.

This car is my absolute all-time favorite. watching old VHs recordings of Group-B races my family had been to, playing some early colin McRae games, even today in modern games I love this car.

I had a Matchbox version of that car as a kid. So cool.

These two motor heads are truly magnificent together.... we want more.... what if they rebuilt/customized a car as a joint effort... Amazing.... Thanks Guys!!!

I love how Jay never ever shifts, just cruise around at redline everywhere. Lmao

What an awesome thing to behold, an RS200 in the US. Props to Tim for having the balls. It does dismay me watching to find out how very little both guys know about such a vehicle. A bit of research would’ve been very helpful beforehand.

jayleno and tim allen need a show like top gun only these 2 going thru their favorite cars

Thanks Jay. This thing was like the golden unicorn when I was a boy.