“As far as I’m concerned the 928 is alright” Jeremy Clarkson. The man who raced death and won 😢

I've always adored the 928 for its exquisite looks. Would be my first choice if I was in the market for a sporty car.

As someone once said, " As much as I'm concerned... the 928 is alright"

The 928 is still just pure magic all the way. Perfect long distance GT - fast and comfortable with good value for money. Maintenance is important and not cheap but it is a high end machine with a good collectors future and hence rising prices for a good well maintained one with car history. The engine is still one of the best V8 classcic worldwide with great sound torque power and designed for a long live. What more can one ask for - it's a Porsche at it's best!

I have a great memory of my 928... a gorgeous chiffon cream color with cognac brown leather interior, it was an automatic 4 speed that o only had 24,000 miles on it when I sold it to buy a house in the 80s. Mine had the blauplunkt radio with amplifier with the short wave, which made listening to radio free Europe a fun hobby. I must say it turned heads and anytime you stopped to get gas or to run iinto a store, people would say "nice car" it was a beautiful sexy car everywhere i went it got noticed because it stood out as a subtle sports car that looked so different from the rest of the 80s cars on the road. I loved driving it then when I was young and successful. Now I other priorities and the 928 is just a memory. ❤

Glad you have decided to keep your 928. After 8 years it still takes my breath away any time I look at it or drive it...I've dropped 1k into it this year. You have spent a lot of money bringing yours up to standard and taking care of the deferred maintenance is the biggest hurdle. We are truly blessed to have people like Roger that have the parts and advice to keep these great classics on the road. Wishing you many "chocolate " miles as always !

Hear me out if you’re thinking about buying one of these…you need to be committed and handy with a wrench. This car is better than the 911 in almost every way, and the numbers back it up. Fastest Porsche in 1984? No, not the Turbo 930, it was the euro spec 928.

A coworker had one with a Chevy LS engine conversion. It was crazy fast.

Good of you to mention Roger Tyson. A good man, who's taken care of our 928s for 20 years.

And you can stand out from the sea of 911s in Fairfield County.

Thanks, you just helped me decide to get an 84 with a 5-speed. The guy only wants $2k for it

The 928 is not cheap. It is a very complex automobile, I have own 4 in my lifetime, there are just a few with low mileage. So, be careful because repairs and maintenance are not cheap. The last one I kept is a 1988 S4. Love it. Most of its life has been in the garage. Is now passing to my son. I drive a newer 4S Carrera and still, every time I take out the 928 can not be anything else but impressed. What a car! Impressive but not cheap to maintain.

I owned one for fourteen years, engine bullet proof and I loved the car but I had 3 cars and one company car so one had to go. If I had the money now I would by a 1995 GTS the most beautiful of the lot.

Cause I'am blinded by 928 love I can't see cons😊. Good luck Jay with your blue shark

Love the 928. Been my #1 car since I was 21 yrs old. My boss had a 79 928 5 spd. Guards red. He let me take it out and drive it without him in the car. What a awesome car. Test drove several over the years the fastest was a 5 spd 1985 model. Slow by todays standards. I never bought one … yet. Being 60 yrs old now I am looking to get one to park it next to my 1981 Trans Am Pace car. Knowing what I know now and being very mechanically inclined. I will do a LS swap on a 84 and newer 928. I looked at and rode in a 86 928 that was LS engine swapped with 400 hp to the wheels. That’s 500 flywheel hp. What a car and it was done right. I know the Porsche purist will hate hearing that but that’s my plan. Why am I going with a 84 and up. Well all 928s from 1977-1983.5 have aluminum ball joints. I can’t believe Porsche did that. I know they can be changed out but that’s just one less thing I have to worry about. Besides I like the 84 and up 928s compared to the earlier ones. So I will be looking for one with engine issues which should be easy to find. As the majority of these cars have been neglected.

I love the design, and the pop up frog lights. I am searching for one, as I could afford to buy one cash now. My current vehicle, and the ones before were paid with monthly payments, I made to the dealership. The reason I want one is, because I had a 1987 Porsche 928, back in the summer of 1993, which was given to me as a gift. The person who gave me the vehicle asked to borrow it, and he totaled it drunk driving. I believe it was soon after the Northridge earthquake... 😢😢😢

Best car shape ever penned. Bar none.

Sure you should buy one? Of course! Just a couple prerequisites. Have a super skilled and trustworthy mechanic or wrench on it yourself. They're complex, not a car to let your brother in-law the shade tree mechanic replace your water pump. Get the best one you can find, later S4s or GTS. From 95 to 98 l leased a manual GTS and loved it. A great car for long trips. During the early 90s they had worked most of the kinks out and it might have been the best high speed tourer on the market. The biggest prerequisite is money. This isn't a car you can maintain on a shoestring budget and even if your a highly skilled mechanic and can sidestep the labor cost parts are very expensive so come to terms with $5-10k repair bills.

Great fucking video. I have a Porsche 928 Euro short stick 5 speed with 60k miles on it with a few ownershipt. Awesome machine. I rarely drive it and love this damn car.

Agree on all points. Roger is an excellent resource for knowledge *and* parts. While you can dump a ton of money into a 928, much of the “maintenance” is just that; replacing and maintaining ~40 year old deteriorated parts. My advice would be to buy the best-maintained one you can find and keep that maintenance going.

I've had Mint mobile for over 4 years now. Love it! Good video. This is a topic that I think too many people don't fully understand before making purchases, and it ofyen.comes back to bite them. Too many people get focused primarily on the purchase price and base their budget around that figure. Huge mistake! My philosophy is take the purchase price and then 2.5x that number. That will give you a more realistic budget to get the car running reliably. I would say a common 928 you see for sale is a $40k. What I mean by this is no matter what neglected 928 you buy, it will cost $40k to have a reliable one. So if you buy a $20k example, expect to put $20k into it. If you buy a $15k example, expect to put in $25k. With that said, you have to plan it out properly, too, or it will get even more expensive. Do as much as you can all at once....not onesy-twosy repairs here and there. I'm even a huge fan of pulling the engine and transmission so that everything can be inspected and replaced as needed. I'm making a video series on a 2005 330i ZHP with 218K miles that I'm restoring. I'm documenting the process. I'll be revealing all the parts I've already bought for it. None of the parts are going on this car until the engine and transmission come out.

I enjoy my 83 Euro manual, 25 years now.

No deferred maintenance, clean examples, service history & getting it checked by an expert…GTS 93-95 is the pick…manual or auto…

Ioved this car from beginning production to the end and actually like the initial cloth interior.

I'm glad I bought a 944 S2, because it's so simple and easy to work on. If I ever decide to part with it, I'll look for a 928 S4.

What a pivotal moment in car design ,both the interior and exterior - like it came from out of space , even I could tell that as an 8 year old in 1978

I owned one Great drive ..fun car Eye watering maintenance costs 1000 for a timing belt Ac systems weak On and on

I have an 88S4 (106k) and a of people think low miles are the best. NOT necessarily true.They need to be driven so all wires/ hoses do not dry out..this how fires can be started. Records are good as well. Drive and enjoy

Timing belts and tune ups are a deal breaker.

The 928 needs a lot of "care" to keep it in good condition or a lot of $$ to bring it back up to speed. But its an amazing looking drivind feeling car

I always find the 928 first model is better than its 2nd model solely bc I love & prefer its tail/rear light than the latter

The 928 is still suffering from the circular curse of cheap to buy expensive to own. People who don't have the money to restore them buy them and then pass them on once they realise. They won't invest in the car out of fear of resale values not returning on their investment. Wrong owners with the wrong cars. Those who can do restore these and experience what marvelously impressive cars they actually are. This might offend some viewers/owners, but Porsche bending over to the emissions regulations and building neutered versions for the US no doubt drags down the model. Nobody wants a US-spec version by choice, they are strangled to all hell. They are NOT the genuine experience. For that you need a Euro-spec version. The sooner more of the junk US-spec examples get parted out to keep the great examples on the road the better. Your car is a nice one, Jay. On your gearbox though, something or several things must not be set-up correctly. It's pretty common. Even the 3-speed is fast in a Euro S when working correctly. Yes, really.

My 1986 Porsche 928s 32v 5speed timing belt (EPDM type) and water pump, rollers... etc are over 20 years old last replaced in 2003 and if it snaps a Tesla motor conversion. Almost 200k miles and still going strong and same color as yours. I refused a $28000 offer.

Did your Porsche come with Rebecca De Mornay?

I think you have made that a lovely car, Jay!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

928s are not more expensive to maintain than 911s. It's just the low market value that makes people think twice about big investments. Actually, they are far superior to the stock G-models of the time from a driving perspective: Much more predictable, much more comfortable, and just as fast. Plus, the core of these cars (engine , drivetrain, suspension) is so much more sound and healthyly engineered, that, once you took care of that initial repair bill (including a new fuel pump, new timing belt/water pump, connecting rod bearings, HVAC, and maybe, with bad luck, new head gaskets), you will only have occasional trouble with little things at the peryphery. Really can't say that of a G or 964. With the S3/S4/GT/GTSes there will be electronic enigmas, but I don't like those models anyway. The 911s up to 996 are total divas in comparison.

Still looks like it's a 2024 car..it looks just stunning

Douglas Barder! Holy cow what a referance!

The 928 came out at a time when I was just starting to get interested in cars and it was quite amazing, futuristic looks and the technology. Over time it has become a car that I love seeing others own and care for (like Jay) but it has dropped far down the list of cars that I'd desire to own.

Seems you got the full leather option which I think cost around an extra $5K. Leather is a pain to maintain, but is really nice. Edit: Isee further in the video, you don't have the full leather interior - at least the headliner is vinyl.

The looks make it super tempting.

The automatic and the 5 speeds are two entirely different cars. The earlier cars mostly had manual, which contributed to their popularity. The later cars seemed to go with the automatic transmission, which I suspect contributed to its demise.

I worked at Scooterman in London many years ago and had a work mate who had one of those. I was driving a VW golf with drunk customers, Hoooray Henrys who previously had been delivered by workmate with Porsche. They were convinced he was telling porkies. They were explaining to me how the last scooterman was telling them obout his Porsche. I explained he paid way less than their sad Golf and giggled a bit... Laughed out loud kind of giggling. No tip. :(

I had a S4 manual and I guess I would have an automatic now. But you need a kick down switch for this box.

FYI Douglas Bader was a WW2 British ace who lost both legs in the war. The Germans let the British fly over and drop him some prosthetic legs. He strapped them on and shortly later tried to escape with them.

I live in Northen California USA. I just found a 1984 with 120,000 miles garaged the majority of time. It comes with an automatic transmission. Is the 1984 928 comes with 3 or 4 speed transmission? Any info will be appreciated... Hopefully is not sold in the coming days as I'm putting some money together and get it. Back in the 90's one of the chefs at the restaurant I used to work had one and always loved it. I told myself some day I will have one of those...

I've just bitten the bullet and bought an '88 S4 with a genuine 55000 miles with full service history backing it up. Needs the cambelt changed which is £820 though, but it could be worse.

Such a nice ca4 but i am afraid of the costs to have it 🤷🏻‍♂️

Love my S4!....nice job

Thanks for a well considered analysis. Based in the uk, in 1984 I bought a modest house for 32k, some one paid 35k for my 928. My gripe with the 928, and to be fair probably other models is the price premium for the word Porsche. I have found that ingunuity is the key to curbing cost. Typical example is the gearbox sump gasket is under half price from Mercedes direct. Does Porsche really need to double the cost? Multiply that across the car and it makes a difference. Electrical gremlins, Bosch relays are not reliable. I traced several issues to failed relay coil windings in the relays. Polish all switch contacts, including relays, they tarnish badly, I wonder if there is a volatile sulphide from the acres of leather ?

the 5.0L V8 car has the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile time as a ford focus st.

It's a beautiful vehicle. I almost bought one. But I just don't have the time to be putting into a project car. Spending the money in such an old car, just for fun as a family man, is not financially responsible. Maybe when my kids are much older.

It's not the complexity. My wife's 1992 Toyota Soarer Coupe V8 daily is supremely reliable, and it is far more complex than any 928. Soarer: - V8 quad cam 32V, all alloy, forged internals, 2 x ignition systems - multi mode computer dampers - multi height air suspension - electric everything, including ultrasonic demisting folding mirrors - 3D effect digital dash - and yes in 1992, a circa 10 inch colour touch screen for HVAC, infotainment, navigation, and systen diagnostics (really) - nappa leather everywhere Oh, and that's the mid level model. The high-end model used a hydraulic active suspension coupled to 4WS and a custom agility/stability computer to yield steady state G's for this super lux GT on 225mn factory rubber...equal or better than the contemporary Ferrari hyper car of the day, the F-40. You may know the stripper, poverty pack, LHD US versions of the Soarer sans all the good suspensions and electronics, as the Lexus SC400

Well done.

I’m still crawling under my 928 Jay, my video I hope towards the end of Fall.

It might be fairly cheap to buy , but it's still a Porsche to maintain.

The most expensive 928 you’ll own, is a cheap 928. Find an nice one, it will be worth it! 🔥🔥

I have a 944 and i can tell…it’s not a cheap car to have😅parts are verry expencive

This has some touch of Miata

They might be cheap to buy relatively speaking, but don't underestimate running costs which are right up there? If you try and run it on a shoestring you're just banking up problems?

Buying one SEEMS like a good idea at the time however... while it is an interesting experience to drive and Jay is right they look so cool .... unless you have a ton of money to throw at them the wooden fuse box will keep the electrics dead, the engine will keep you broke and the uncomfortable driving position will have you questioning your sanity.

Guess another drawback nowadays is a truly atrocious fuel appetite ?

Low mileage 928's aren't cheap though. 928 GTS is far from cheap. Maybe not quite in the 964/993 territory but it's getting closer. Very low mileage GTS's can easily fetch 100K.

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I jumped forward and recognized Cannondale Station just from the parking lot!

Still sorry I sold mine

Hi Jay,They are great,But! Maintenance if anyone knows I do,they are a true GT even today Corpse is intersting😅😃 Cheers Frank

So in America what would you say that this car would need for a yearly maintenance just a rough end figure? The prices of Porsche 928 have gone up particularly after covid I don't know why but they have. If I bought one I don't know I would get just a 928s but the Porsche 928 S4 would be a better car but also more money yet is the 928 S4 more reliable or just the same as a 928s?

Would someone 6’3 be able to drive this comfortably ish?

Beautiful car.

Think their only issue is steel electrical connections instead of stainless steel connections. Hence electrical maladies if not kept rust free and clean ?

It’s my next project car I’m hoping I can save up in time before it becomes to expensive

Not to hijack the comments section, but where do all you 928 guys live? I'm in SW MI and would love to see some cars and meet some fellow owners.

I’d have another one . Bought mine 20years ago almost identical to this one for 3k 😮 I should never have sold it 😢!

Never ending money pit I have mine for 25 years - I could have bought a brand new electric car for what it has cost me but I would never sell it

If your transmission is slipping there's a problem with it. Cold or not. have you changed the AT filter along with just pouring in new fluid? drain the old fluid out?

Big 944 fan. What's your opinion of the Panamera?

These cars are now between 30 and 45 years old, good examples belong in museums not on the road!

I just found one of these sitting in a lot and im planning on asking to buy it i just wanna know if it is worth it

I'm going to try to make it to the tail in Oct. Where in Ohio are you? I'm from the Cincy area.

Hey Jay is there something up with your Instagram it seems to have disappeared!

I remember in 77 my dad had a 75 911 s he raced a 78 928 the 928 smoked the 911

12k ?! I see them around here for 2500-10k

How tall are you?

Mint Mobile❤❤❤

I know most people would think that oh people found this Porsche from looking online 80s kids looked at dead end from transformers and said oh that car looks nice I want it and that’s how I found them. I love the style of this car. It’s so nice but I feel like dead end. Where is it better just with the yellow stripe and a nice maroon paint job and the nice dark gray headlights and the purple rims. He just pulls it off good and if I were to ever get a Porsche 928 I would get it in Dead end colors

Jeremy Clarkson brought me here.

Theres 19 grounds !

Like all cars.. if it's not taken care of... = a headache... and funny enough from what I hear, the new 911's are a lot of 928 in them.. So in a way it left it's Mark on Porsche. However, I still say this, why does the gas peddle and steering have to be so heavy? OKAY! I can understand if you are on the autobahn and doing it's top speed, the last thing you want to fast steering so loose control...Yes.. manual ... but sadly they drive the price up by 50% or more... hence my Challenger... but it's the same with Maintenance

Surprised! I thought you had gone to the dark side, motorcycles?

Thanks...but I'm still a 718 dreamer!

Only if it has an LS3 motor.

What am i missing, its like your girl friend who never changed her wardrobe from the 80s, And still thinks she is hot

928 = two million 2022

Good video but rather a tasteless reference to D. Bader

2024 My Back to the Today Future Car is a Porsche 928. (smile)

Douglas Bader, bahahahahahahahahaha bahahahahahahahahaha

rather have a mercedes R129 from the same year way more reliable and better looks too

I LOVED that car when it came out. Now, it's UGLY....VERY UGLY. It hasn't aged well and why it's so inexpensive to purchase.

Biggest turd porsche ever made