Lawn Mower Will Not Start - You Will Never Guess Why

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James Condon

James Condon

3 жыл бұрын

Picked up this Craftsman Lawn Mower that will not start. If has a Briggs Quantum engine with good compression and spark, easy fix? Maybe not.
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@doublewide6
@doublewide6 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Job James. I have not ever encountered that problem, it's good to be made aware of it. Thanks for the video.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Judging by the comments, it might be a more common problem then it should be.
@THEMOWERMEDIC1
@THEMOWERMEDIC1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcondon1 yessir. Very common issue here in hell. I mean ne Texas
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcondon1 ... Clearly, you are intelligent enough to diagnose and repair an internal timing jump due to camshaft failure. So why not go ahead and use "than"?
@woolval52
@woolval52 3 жыл бұрын
@@JW...-oj5iw Wow... grammar police here.
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 3 жыл бұрын
@@woolval52 ... The plaintive crying of the poor little offended girl. Shut your pie hole and make a sandwich.
@ant-1382
@ant-1382 Жыл бұрын
Had to watch this one, really takes me back to the late 70's. My Dad brought home from the dump a lawn mower that was not working. In short order he had it running, he went on to salvaging mowers from the trash heap, fixing them and selling them. Rarely bought new parts salvage one to make another run. This made for a lucrative way to make a bit of extra cash. Eventually he began repairing other folks mowers all out of the shop behind our house. Eventually he rented a store front , then secured franchises to sell new equipment, and do warranty work. Branching off to chain saws, and other small engines. Moved on to buying some commercial property and building a larger shop, which expanded 3 times. When he retired in 1992 he sold the shop and land for a significant amount of money. Not bad for a guy with a grade 8 education that never made it past corporal in the forces after 25 years service.
@rosselnator
@rosselnator 4 ай бұрын
Life is an endless education
@toonybrain
@toonybrain 3 ай бұрын
This is, and used to be, the wonderful American story. Men who were willing to work hard and had an idea that benefited both themselves and others. Then the two pincers started squeezing the life and ingenuity out of entrepreneurs: government throwing down countless obstacles plus their grasping tentacles coupled with the other pincer: out-of-control litigation.redistributing wealth from the Makers to the Takers.
@anthonymarino4260
@anthonymarino4260 3 ай бұрын
smart DAD
@okramando
@okramando 3 ай бұрын
Dad sounds awesome. That's the dream.
@matthewjohnston1400
@matthewjohnston1400 3 ай бұрын
Nice
@johnoldonekanole602
@johnoldonekanole602 4 ай бұрын
James I am 75 now and back in 64/65 I was the one lung king of the neighbor hood , so I thought. I did manage to fix all the mowers I collected on the side of the road. I had a claw hammer, 9/16 and 7/16 socket crescent wrench and a pair of pliers, no ratchet. Hours of fun taking them apart cleaning them put back together and when they started it felt great. Thank you for sharing, would have never guessed that was issue. Back then it was one cast piece.
@yelyab1
@yelyab1 Ай бұрын
I did something similar exact same time frame but I attached one motor to my sister’s old bike, a blue and white Monkey Wards step through. It was a rear engine drive like exotic Italian sports cars. The frame was a for sale sign donated (unknowingly) in the mid night procurement services. Drive was a long drawn out process. It ended up a Jack shaft, 1/2” V belt, with a 12” pulley on the rear wheel, the Jack shaft was a 3” welded to a 2” and the engine had a 1 1/2”. Went through about 50 V belts by the time I got it going. Top speed was about 26mph with my custom exhaust, 3 piece 1/2” galvanized pipe. That project pretty much solidified my career decision to become a mechanical engineer, now I are one (old joke).
@cockstockton6609
@cockstockton6609 2 жыл бұрын
My late father used to do small engine repair as a side job when I was a boy. I used to watch him and this really brings back memories. Fixing things is sadly a lost art these days. I miss my father.
@JamesBond-hu9rg
@JamesBond-hu9rg Жыл бұрын
I found out my Father in-law did that too after these yrs. Married . At his funeral I find out 🤔💁‍♂️. He was a Machinist by trade. For F16s . He taught his 3 boys and my wife. How to take apart toasters and then radios. Then small engines. Who knew.
@leecowell8165
@leecowell8165 Жыл бұрын
Don't we all! We don't know how much they've taught us until they're gone. So for you kids that still have yours? Don't forget to tell them how much you love them!
@b.j.surfdog3724
@b.j.surfdog3724 2 жыл бұрын
He's right! I never guessed why. This guys small engine skills are way above my paygrade. I'm jealous.
@larrycleeton
@larrycleeton 3 жыл бұрын
You'd be proud of me. I fixed the neighbor's garage sale purchase mower with a Honda GCV160 motor. It was surging when warm. I immediately suspected a lean condition. Found fine dirt in the tank. Cleaned it out. Took the carb apart, cleaned it, and found the emulsion tube above the main jet had its little holes clogged with the fine dirt. Used a wire from a wire brush and cleaned them out. Mower runs perfect now.
@mikeclarke3005
@mikeclarke3005 3 жыл бұрын
most issuers these days, is the ethanol gas, sits for a bit wont start, ends up water settles in the gas to the carb bowl, drain carb, tank, new gas usually fixes. if spark and starts with ether, then that is what I try first.
@mjb12141963
@mjb12141963 3 жыл бұрын
Those are so much fun. Good Job!!
@boatman222345
@boatman222345 3 жыл бұрын
See my solution to dirt in the gas above.
@wryanddry2266
@wryanddry2266 3 жыл бұрын
Similar: I was given a Husqvarna with a GCV160. It would run for only one or two seconds each time I tried to start it. Fixed that by cleaning the main jet using a twist-tie wire, but then the governor was making it surge (aka 'hunt'). Fixed that by cleaning the pilot (idle) jet using a strand of fine copper wire from a lamp cord. The twist-tie wire wouldn't fit through the pilot jet.
@mjb12141963
@mjb12141963 3 жыл бұрын
@@wryanddry2266 It's something how a thing so small could create such problems.
@jamespn
@jamespn 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting watching and learning how to repair things especially in our throw away society.
@rogerneumann8105
@rogerneumann8105 5 ай бұрын
I will say I appreciated the end b-roll of sweeping up & cleaning up after the mower great job diagnosing and fixing it!
@trock3935
@trock3935 Жыл бұрын
This is starting to become one of my favorite channels on KZfaq. Your videos at first start off as a unknown mystery, sometimes with twists and turns and often a happy ending. The well placed shots, clear and concise explanations of how these things work make this a quality channel. Thank you for taking the time to share your talent with the rest of us in a way that is easy to follow and digest.
@jamesdiehl8690
@jamesdiehl8690 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother always said; "you learn something new every day. When you quit learning, you're probably dead!" I'm 67, I'm not dead yet and I'm still learning!
@johnbassett3188
@johnbassett3188 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 60 and junk part's in mowers are one thing , but off subject , I've always driven older car's and recently got a car given to me that needed attention , thought I was getting something great for a change , till i discovered that 90 percent of the car was plastic and everything is falling apart , Life is Good as always but still learning !!!
@jamesdiehl8690
@jamesdiehl8690 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbassett3188 Yep! Most of the cars I've had and worked on myself were 60s and 70s models. My parents were married in 45 and after Dad got out of the service in 48 they had mostly used 30s and 40s cars, then new 50s models. So, I cut my teeth learning about old models. The same with small engines; B&S, Tecumseh, Clinton, etc... Most of the cars were made of real steel, cast iron engines and copper wiring. The small engines on tillers, mowers, etc were steel w/cast iron sleeves or cast iron blocks and steel parts like cars and trucks. Maybe I'm just a silly old man, but quality is worth more to me then disposability. The land fills are full, the recyclers run night and day. How about we build stuff so it lasts like my grandpa said: "it ought to last a 100 years, then turn into something good to eat!"
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdiehl8690 ... All that time and learning, yet you still used "then" instead of the correct "than".
@jamesdiehl8690
@jamesdiehl8690 3 жыл бұрын
@@JW...-oj5iw I still have trouble with dos, dem and dat too!
@jamesdiehl8690
@jamesdiehl8690 3 жыл бұрын
@@JW...-oj5iw If I did, you would still think that you can judge me for it! Go polish your halo!
@sweetlou5902
@sweetlou5902 3 жыл бұрын
Briggs is notorious for those plastic cam assemblies failing, they shouldn't use plastic on the cams.
@paulmoffat9306
@paulmoffat9306 3 жыл бұрын
Another case of the purchasing department under the gun to reduce costs, and deciding to use an inferior part design - And as is most likely usual, the engineering department had no say in the part replacement.
@shanesgettinghandy
@shanesgettinghandy 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Honda do the same thing on a pressure washer. What is with the stupid plastic gears?
@davidvickers8425
@davidvickers8425 3 жыл бұрын
Metal gear could have blown up all running parts in the crank case, metal cams wear down too esp if not oiled, which would be cheaper to replace a plastic cam or all internals? They should put a plastic or brass key on the fly wheel too. Its like a circuit breaker for your house, would you want a 200 amp breaker on a 20 amp line? What could go wrong? Farming equipment has shear pins on everything too if you put a shear pin in with too hard metal the rest of the machine blows up if something gets stuck.
@sweetlou5902
@sweetlou5902 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidvickers8425 doubtful, the gear spun on the shaft, I have never seen a metal cam do that!
@barryaiello3127
@barryaiello3127 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidvickers8425 in reality though mowers in this price range with internal engine issues are 90% of the time just put out for trash, not taken apart and fixed, it's a friggin shame too.
@dabcorn
@dabcorn Жыл бұрын
nice! I got a Craftsman 20" like new from the local thrift shop for FREE. The deck and blade barely had any signs of use at all. They said the engine was seized. I pulled it through at the store, it was very hard to pull, but it wasn't seized. Took it home and saw that the 'safety blade stop' cable had broke down at the lever on the engine. Re-attached it and the mower is running fine! FREE! YAY!
@fathertorque4504
@fathertorque4504 9 ай бұрын
extremely helpful and perfectly filmed
@somerandomguy3868
@somerandomguy3868 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame so many manufacturers have gone to plastic internal parts, simply don't have the reliability of the old school engines
@seaseasee
@seaseasee 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@HsingSun
@HsingSun 3 жыл бұрын
Most of those parts are made in China.
@robertbrawley5048
@robertbrawley5048 3 жыл бұрын
@@HsingSun I phones are made in China. Is there anybody complaining about I phone build quality
@sailingsolar
@sailingsolar 3 жыл бұрын
It's intentional to make more money. That and he majority of American consumers will always shop with their wallet and buy the cheaper mower. You get what you pay for . Cheaper mower, plastic parts. Your blaming the manufacturer? It's not the manufacturer call it's the consumer. You build a better one then you can't complain.
@robertbrawley5048
@robertbrawley5048 3 жыл бұрын
James Kenta. You sound like somebody thats 25 years old . I became of age in the 1970s and my experience with small engines and consumer grade tools were they didn't compare favorable with foreign manufacturers engines and handtool . Particular red Chinese hand tools. Other counties electronic devices like camera , chisels. tape recorders television load binders far exceeded the quality of American manufacturing . Taiwan hand tools were very low grade compared to zred Chinese tool . 40 years later Harbor Freight cheap Chinese hand tools and and power equipment are depended on by professionals and hobbyist
@stevecarter529
@stevecarter529 3 жыл бұрын
In the world we now live in where everything is a "throw away" item it`s good to see someone taking time to rebuild. Thanks for sharing.
@stephenbartram7377
@stephenbartram7377 3 жыл бұрын
That's why this one failed Plastic on metal engine part for a important function
@starzlea
@starzlea 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbartram7377 Yep... P-lastic! aaaaaargh!!! surely metal can't be that more expensive...
@edstimator1
@edstimator1 3 жыл бұрын
I would have thrown it away for sure
@Pterocarpous
@Pterocarpous 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbartram7377 Yep. That's a setup for a fail, plastic on metal. I see it in my work too and all manner of equipment. I miss the days when you could buy equipment (anything, ftm) built/made to last.
@calculator1841
@calculator1841 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I strive to fix anything myself.
@damocsell
@damocsell 2 жыл бұрын
A ranch I worked for had a lot of Briggs and Stratton motors on irrigation lines they were always failing with the same fault. Its pretty sad that a highly regarded manufacturer like Briggs uses plastic cams that can slip.
@danielbond9755
@danielbond9755 8 ай бұрын
That’s the price you pay for the engine being as cheap as it is.
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Some places plastic is not welcome. Can you imagine how much research - development went into getting plastic to work for that purpose? Planned obsolescence or exacting lifespan?
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate 2 жыл бұрын
My first guess was the aluminum key, but I didn't realize it had tinkertoy parts inside. That was a fun video. I mostly work on older stuff, but I enjoyed watching your careful approach, and I learned a few things!
@Partysize2
@Partysize2 Жыл бұрын
My thought, exactly. Even a steel key will get knocked out of time by a big hit on the blades. LOL your tinker-toy comment.
@uralbob1
@uralbob1 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing more satifying than to take something that has no percieved value to an average person, and make it like new for a few bucks. Good going! That's probably a $300.00 mower!
@starzlea
@starzlea 3 жыл бұрын
If you did this yourself you would have to go buy the tools to do this kind of work, which would probably cost the same as a replacement mower, hence why people throw them out...
@uralbob1
@uralbob1 3 жыл бұрын
@@starzlea So true. Our society has us conditioned to throw things away. I've repaired small engines, vacuums, all kinds of stuff. It is so rewarding!
@lewiswereb8994
@lewiswereb8994 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 150 dollar mower at Lowe's.
@javierbaron1856
@javierbaron1856 3 жыл бұрын
It’s great but what if it doesn’t work. You have to back and troubleshoot it all over again. By the time you figured it out you already spent $300-$400 of time and labor.
@andrewsherman2647
@andrewsherman2647 2 жыл бұрын
@@javierbaron1856 do it yourself is the only way a shop would probably get in excess of $150 to do the repair but very well done video
@1959rossco
@1959rossco 3 жыл бұрын
A pressed on plastic cam shaft I'm surprised it doesn't have a compressed cardboard deck and bamboo cutter blades , good video and great job getting this thing going
@haroldlundberg5676
@haroldlundberg5676 2 жыл бұрын
15 or 20 years ago,, that camshaft was one piece steel.
@Alixstair
@Alixstair 2 жыл бұрын
Should have a roll pin at least
@visitorfromoutthere
@visitorfromoutthere Жыл бұрын
I'm an expert with small engines usually I can tell exactly what's wrong from what the person says if u hit a stump lawnmower dies won't start timing key is the problem or bent crank witch can be straight ened without taking anything apart
@warrenpeas
@warrenpeas 3 ай бұрын
and yet i bet this failure is very rare.
@lzh3131
@lzh3131 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@DrLaFuria
@DrLaFuria 6 ай бұрын
Fun to watch a master mechanic solve a problem. Always a good thing sleep on it.
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 6 ай бұрын
Nice Save! Im surprised it even half started with that timing problem.
@boatman222345
@boatman222345 3 жыл бұрын
A helpful tip: The gas tank fill cap on this and similar mowers was very poorly designed! Grass and other debris collects on the underside of the cap flange and when you remove the cap the debris falls into the gas tank. As an ex lawnmower mechanic I am very meticulous when it comes to using clean gas so when the carb jet on my Toro kept getting clogged I knew something was up. After discovering the source of the problem I did two things. First I installed an inline fuel filter in the short rubber gas line running from the tank to the carb. Do NOT use the little red plastic style filters sold online as they will not filter out smaller particles. Rather use the round clear plastic filters that contain fiber filters. Due to the short distance between the tank and the carb and the overall length of the filter this requires some manipulating but it can be done. Second, and this is very important, before removing the gas cap run a rag around the bottom surface of the cap flange to remove debris. I haven't had a single clogged carb jet in the two years since I diagnosed this problem.
@amd65ak47
@amd65ak47 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you everything is so poorly made the fail in this country so you consume more and more product I have a lawn mower engine roughly the same model in style but it's from 1990 everything is internally cast or aluminum I've even gone as far as polishing it and porting the engine it's 190 cc's from factory it's probably 200 cc since I've done everything to it This country's despicable when it comes to waste. I've also stated that these engine brake switches are horrible for the magneto and flywheel so my recommend recommendation is to take a double strand piece of wire wire to your magneto and wire it to the block of the engine run the wire up your handlebar to an off and on switch. Patent pending.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for that tip. I already knew about installing a primary filter after the tank but never heard about the gas cap debris issue before. Now I’ll be on the lookout for that with every mower I work on. 👍🔧🧰
@kristopherdetar4346
@kristopherdetar4346 2 жыл бұрын
I have made it a habit to always overfill my tank to flush out grass debris since the mid 70’s and have never had an issue with a clogged up carb.
@rbarr775
@rbarr775 2 жыл бұрын
For this exact reason, for about the last ten years, I keep a 2" paint brush on the wall where I fuel my equipment. I use the brush to whisk away all the debris from the base of the cap and the surrounding area before removing the cap. Only takes about five seconds.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 2 жыл бұрын
rbarr775 I like that method better than overfilling or using a rag to clean off the debris. Thanks!
@ricdenali4213
@ricdenali4213 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the bonus footage!! That was driving me crazy. Briggs use to make such good engines.
@YukonHawk1
@YukonHawk1 3 жыл бұрын
Briggs is total crap now.
@daalfaro452
@daalfaro452 2 жыл бұрын
I still use a early 1970’s 8 HP cast iron engine that Briggs made without a sputter. Turns over on first try
@charlessimmons243
@charlessimmons243 Жыл бұрын
Wow after buying 2 new carbs thinking the first was a bad one, i now realize i could have a broke key or timing is off. Both new carbs would run bout 30 seconds and then shut off. You made a Great Video and showed step by step to help us understand the possibility's we might had over looked. You are my hero of the Day. Thanks....
@wbrowning52ify
@wbrowning52ify Жыл бұрын
I have a neighbor that bought 2 of these mowers. Both have a failed to start problem. I suspected a broken cam problem. You have shown how simple it is to repair. Great video. Thank you for posting.
@cbauer72
@cbauer72 3 жыл бұрын
When turned upside down, those engines will typically sit perfectly in the top of a standard 5 gallon bucket. It raises it up off the ground so you can work on it a bit easier and keeps everything level.
@heydannypark
@heydannypark 3 жыл бұрын
Who has two bad knees and loves this tip? This guy!
@Mr.Martin4500
@Mr.Martin4500 3 жыл бұрын
@@heydannypark Agree with that... ...And I can appreciate it too. Even after having two total knee replacement surgeries. ✌️😁👌 Once you realize how important it is to save them as long as possible, you don't ever forget. I see new ways everyday to make my steps more efficient.
@j.j.springer1099
@j.j.springer1099 3 жыл бұрын
I just put it on pool deck! Perfect, set on my bar stool go to work! Then blame the kids for not cleaning their feet before jumping in! Then ok guys, punishment! Go cut the grass!
@kargo27
@kargo27 2 жыл бұрын
These are the tricks of the trade I love to hear.
@johndii2194
@johndii2194 3 жыл бұрын
A plastic gear forced onto a steel shaft and then soaked in hot oil. Perfect!
@Mike-su8si
@Mike-su8si 3 жыл бұрын
They're made to break
@campbellpaul
@campbellpaul 3 жыл бұрын
Planned obsolescence for you at a reasonable manufacturing cost. At least we have KZfaq and Amazon to make a nice counter-balance for the wise.
@JW...-oj5iw
@JW...-oj5iw 3 жыл бұрын
And probably no option in replacement parts, such as a one piece unit.
@JohnDoe-es5xh
@JohnDoe-es5xh 3 жыл бұрын
same belongs to paddle-wheels in many car water pumps losing contact to the shaft during operation
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 3 жыл бұрын
They are close enough to perfect - I've worked professionally with those engines since they came out around 1990, and I have never seen that problem.
@lauralauren6432
@lauralauren6432 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a New mower Yesterday. My 14 year old Craftsman has been impeccible. It has started on the first stroke every year. Last year however i bought regular petrol and The gas wire broke. NO repairshop is open. It IMPOSSIBLE to get spare parts in Sweden. I cleaned The AIR filter and plug. Thanks for The video.
@danieldukes7881
@danieldukes7881 Ай бұрын
I have one in my shed my neighbor owns been trying to get it started he didn't give me good history on it changed all the broken cables and break did spark plug cleaned Carb, checked spark still no start I think I am here or got something with compression this video is amazing I got a lot out of it I only wish to get as good as you.
@midixiewrecked7011
@midixiewrecked7011 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, don't get the plastic cam , this may have worked for James, but you're better off getting the all metal cam . Yes , it's interchangeable.
@Tom-In-Ga
@Tom-In-Ga 3 жыл бұрын
$25 mower. $10 used plastic cam was the better choice for this "push, not powered" mower. I'm guessing the best he'll get for it is $50? As it stands right now, he's going to maybe break even. Now, if you're going to keep the mower for yourself, maybe spend the extra bucks for better parts.
@gdfschimpi007
@gdfschimpi007 3 жыл бұрын
what's the part number for the metal cam?
@midixiewrecked7011
@midixiewrecked7011 3 жыл бұрын
@@gdfschimpi007 Google
@gdfschimpi007
@gdfschimpi007 3 жыл бұрын
@@midixiewrecked7011 That's not what I asked....
@kingbeat101
@kingbeat101 3 жыл бұрын
Right,..I kind of think it's cool that he has the skill to do and figure this stuff out but to me none of that was worth the time and then to put another plastic part into that motor..???...For me and it's just my opinion..It wouldn't be worth it..
@Humidor-zl3oe
@Humidor-zl3oe 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work JC, always a calming influence within the small engine fraternity. No stress, no fuss and no rush. A discerning upload!
@roynorris5146
@roynorris5146 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@maecaron6220
@maecaron6220 2 жыл бұрын
Ivoiiie
@johnwilson7809
@johnwilson7809 10 ай бұрын
@@roynorris5146 Hi
@col.davidcrockett5959
@col.davidcrockett5959 9 ай бұрын
You are a great mechanic and I will check the timing after seeing your in-depth demonstration I feel like I can get into the guts of this old mower of my brother in law’s and with the knowledge you have freeing given. Thanks for filming this.
@kennethrutledge9222
@kennethrutledge9222 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time and your knowledge you know when I was a teenager I had a lawn business and about 10 lawns as far as I got on rebuilds was the timing on the flywheel and the key used had to be replaced because I hit something hard I thought it was really doing something back then but now after watching you I think I can dive into the guts of the engine thanks again
@donaldramsamugh1723
@donaldramsamugh1723 2 жыл бұрын
Well done James, you should be teaching a small engine course, you would be a good teacher, thanks for sharing your knowledge , you were very helpful.
@Pterocarpous
@Pterocarpous 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure watching such professionalism and expertise in action. I dount I'll be tearing into any small engine motors anytime soon but I enjoyed (and learned from) your video so much, I downloaded it just to watch again sometime. Well done and thank you for sharing your expertise.
@visitorfromoutthere
@visitorfromoutthere Жыл бұрын
Plastic cam are u kidding me talk about garbage plastic carburator s too more garbage with higher prices talk about greed wow
@rojuan7111
@rojuan7111 2 ай бұрын
Now I'm going to open my machines so I can try to fix them myself thanks God bless you and you family
@larry2031
@larry2031 2 жыл бұрын
Man the feeling of seeing someone fix something better than new WoW! love it, Thanks James
@luisberrios2171
@luisberrios2171 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your explanations and accuracy. Learned some points on checking the timing outside and the compression nob. Very clean video.
@19491Tommy
@19491Tommy 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video all the way around ! You did a fantastic job trouble shooting the problem, and explaining why the need to remove the motor. Your knowledge to small engines is wonderful. Thanks for sharing !
@eddiegalindo1770
@eddiegalindo1770 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the way you worked, clean and methodical.
@jkagoso
@jkagoso Жыл бұрын
Wow that was one of the most satisfying engine build I have ever watched Cleary explained from the start to the end.
@marttrev4279
@marttrev4279 3 жыл бұрын
Impressed! Very good job. As a fellow Small Engine Repair guy who watches these videos all the time, you are by far a very thorough tech. Kudos to you. Very good job and it started on the second pull. Enjoy the new mower.
@mattparx
@mattparx 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was exactly the help I needed. Mower is now running great
@nocomment5175
@nocomment5175 2 жыл бұрын
"Yes! Plastic cam shafts. You don't want them to last forever do you, Mr./Ms. retailer?" It's not a defect it's a feature! I admire how you were able to zero in on the problem, explaining your reasoning and methodology. I grew up on all metal lawn and garden engines (yes, they are very nutritious with whole milk!) If something was out of time, it was game over. I didn't know until now about the plastic cam so if I had run across the problem from the outside of the engine, that engine would go into the metal recycling pile. Thank you for pointing it out! A repair like this, done by the typical small engine repair shop would have been too expensive to consider for most home owners. And that, sadly, is the plan.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done 9 in less than 3 months so far
@ArroEL922
@ArroEL922 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have cost much for Craftsman (or whoever made that part) to fit that timing gear with a pin or even a key. But, as you said, the engine will last too long. Bad for Craftsman. What a scam, especially in a lawnmower (where the blade is liable to hit against some obstruction and quickly mis-align that timing gear). Or maybe they thought it was a safety mechanism (like shear pins in/on some old time outboard propeller shafts)?
@thomaswoosley4821
@thomaswoosley4821 4 ай бұрын
@@ArroEL922 I don't doubt that is part of the plan. I've only owned 3 mowers in about 40 years and in each case the deck rusted out but the engine was still fine.
@BarryLambright-ff1pz
@BarryLambright-ff1pz 2 ай бұрын
Oh about 15years all engine blands got sued mis different horsepower than they what the manufacturers was were so went cubics or CCs the manufacturers so they lost alot of profits so decided to make throw away engines at our expense . I try stay away from them but was all of the united states .
@deanow4012
@deanow4012 9 ай бұрын
perfect instructions on resetting timing..I recently ran over a rock that knocked the timing off and caused this problem..it started once and belched smoke like a champ.. i shut down immediately and it wouldnt start again so i tore it apart to see what was happening but had no idea what to look for till i got this vid. and it worked perfect... thanks amigo.. good job.
@ctg6734
@ctg6734 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I hate how cheezy these engines have become nowadays. This is why I try to save the old stuff. So much better quality! I'm glad you posted this vid. It's good to know what's lurking inside these engines.
@eskieman3948
@eskieman3948 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just the small engines. WAAAY back in the late '70s, I heard that GM was using plastic parts in their auto transmissions, and these transmissions were failing because the parts were breaking. I was skeptical until, by coincidence, "60 minutes" did a segment about this very issue at the time, and when I found that my Monte Carlo had one of these transmission (TH-200), I dumped that suck within the year. It was a POS anyway, bad transmission or not.
@ctg6734
@ctg6734 3 жыл бұрын
@@eskieman3948 For sure! Kawasaki got bit hard because they decided a plastic oil pump drive gear would somehow be a good idea in the Vulcan 1500. Well surprise, surprise they had a major recall due to failed gears! Plastic has no business inside an engine save for a few select items such as chain guides, and even then they don't always get it right.
@ronalddaub7965
@ronalddaub7965 3 жыл бұрын
@@ctg6734 most newer engines have plastic camshafts I don't know about all of them but I had a Briggs & Stratton that I took apart and it had a plastic camshaft
@ctg6734
@ctg6734 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronalddaub7965 Yeah, I have two of these engines on mowers currently. Sad thing is they'd probably be fine if they molded the gear and lobes as one part instead of two separate pieces. But yeah, it's because of stuff like this that I hold on to my older equipment.
@yeltonT15
@yeltonT15 3 жыл бұрын
Because of watching your videos over the last 6 months i was able to fix my first 2 generators could not have done it with out your videos thabk you so much for all you do
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear.
@franknovisku1480
@franknovisku1480 Ай бұрын
Good job getting it going.,
@chrishanson69
@chrishanson69 2 жыл бұрын
Plastic gears and lobes on a camshaft? This lawnmower is a complete disposable POS. I'll keep my 1976 two stroke Lawnboy that still starts on the first pull. The only maintenance I've ever really had to do it is adjust the points, which as far as I know, was the first time ever in 40 years. The thing is older than I am.
@Roadking556
@Roadking556 2 ай бұрын
Everything is a POS. nowadaysm
@lzh3131
@lzh3131 Ай бұрын
They don’t make them like they used to!😥
@lzh3131
@lzh3131 Ай бұрын
I watched your video, thermostat / auto choke, very good video! This is way above my skill level! At least I know if it’s “dead”, call it “new mower day”. Another very good, informative video!👍
@darrelldundee7198
@darrelldundee7198 Ай бұрын
Back in the days when real things were being built to last not So Much Anymore these days
@tomstulc9143
@tomstulc9143 Ай бұрын
Plastic junk.
@oldsalt7534
@oldsalt7534 2 жыл бұрын
I get so jealous watching this video. I would give most anything to have the skills and knowledge to take something like that apart, analyze the trouble, repair it and put it back together. It just amazes me. Thanks James.
@garymartin9777
@garymartin9777 3 жыл бұрын
My father started his career as a machinist in the navy. He taught me how to repair all sorts of small engines and even some car and outboard engines. It is a very useful skill that I have never needed even once as an adult. But I'm glad I learned.
@NavySeal2k
@NavySeal2k 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle had a BMW with a bad gearbox indicator. Gearbox was fine, sensor was broken and changing it was nearly 2000€ because you had to gut the gearbox...
@donn1387
@donn1387 2 жыл бұрын
If you’ve never used it once even as an adult, is it really a “useful skill”?
@NavySeal2k
@NavySeal2k 2 жыл бұрын
@@donn1387 If you can repair small and big engines, you can repair a lot of other things, understand a lot of things and have fiddly fingers. All types of usefullness here. ;)
@garymartin9777
@garymartin9777 2 жыл бұрын
@@donn1387 Knowledge is always useful. I appreciate auto mechanics more because of that knowledge and experience.
@fixitallpaul4847
@fixitallpaul4847 Жыл бұрын
There is a huge shortage of people that can do this work. Its a skill worth putting on a hook and tossing into the job pool see what bites.
@pod51
@pod51 Жыл бұрын
Just here to say thanks from the UK. After watching your video a few times and having a Toro 675 GTS failing to start with similar issues I decided to take apart my first ever engine. Same fault as this one with the camshaft sprocket timing out after shifting on the shaft. Followed your video, replaced the camshaft and fired up on the second pull. Many thanks a mower saved from the clutches of scrap.
@mostthoughtprovoking1494
@mostthoughtprovoking1494 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch people fix small engines. Thanks. It would make sense the larger sprocket gear would break loose considering the torque to shaft size. I may need this video for my Sear's mower I had put aside a few years ago not understanding the insides so well. You took a lot of the apprehension out of what seemed an insurmountable job.
@henrycherbonneau1104
@henrycherbonneau1104 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and I like how you showed the entire process with a clean machine, can't work on my projects if it's cruddy, I clean them up and makes less mess overall.
@darrellpatton4008
@darrellpatton4008 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Informative, detailed, and not overwhelming background music drowning out what you're saying.
@edb8179
@edb8179 14 күн бұрын
Outstanding video, very informative and free from unnecessary intro, music, safety information, tools used, long back story, etc.
@getonlygotonly
@getonlygotonly Жыл бұрын
its pleasure to see someone do a repair properly. there are so many fools that dont know what they are doing posting videos its not funny
@sudburyhouse
@sudburyhouse 2 жыл бұрын
I always learn something watching your videos. There’s something to be said about the way you go about things! Your easy to follow and you don’t rush through anything! So many you tubers rush through there video’s with very little information or show the steps needed to do the job leaving you feeling like their main interest is getting subscribers instead of actually putting out helpful information. Guys…You gotta put in the effort and be more focused on the video and not how many likes you get!
@markthomas919
@markthomas919 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant thanks, I didn't know that plastic pressed into shafts was hidden in these engines. I think the sound it made like the chuff of a steam engine on starter fluid was an indication that valves were popping at the wrong time. Very helpful to us dabblers!
@SBSATS
@SBSATS Ай бұрын
Good information and takes me to the next step diagnosing my riding mower problem, which started with replacing with a new carb, rather than simply cleaning the old. Now it blows fuel back out of the carb, suggesting a valve problem. But I have readjusted them several times with no improvement, resulting in no compression. You now have a new subscriber.. thank you.
@michaelnelson2951
@michaelnelson2951 2 жыл бұрын
Real good troubleshooting procedure and hands on disassembly. Great Video, thanks.
@larrysmith3374
@larrysmith3374 3 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding video!! Thanks much. It seemed evident that it was the gear that slipped even without the bonus footage. The decompressor was now being interfered with by the gear. Since the decompressor is fixed to the shaft, but now binding with the gear, then it had to be the gear that moved.
@VictorPoulin
@VictorPoulin 3 жыл бұрын
$20 for part but time invested does not make it worth fixing unless you have time on your hands. Now the money you might make from the video and helping anyone watching is priceless.
@robertdimarcantonio3580
@robertdimarcantonio3580 3 жыл бұрын
Taking time to fix it. Have a point. But the use of cutting one lawn. Your even. Machines taken care of the right way will be there when you really need it.
@VictorPoulin
@VictorPoulin 3 жыл бұрын
@@canuck64 Like I said, ( unless you have time on your hands)
@VictorPoulin
@VictorPoulin 3 жыл бұрын
@@canuck64 I'm not sure if I will know how to retire when the day comes lol
@VictorPoulin
@VictorPoulin 3 жыл бұрын
@@canuck64 Thanks for that.
@javierbaron1856
@javierbaron1856 3 жыл бұрын
You said it. I personally wouldn’t waste time trying to fix something that’s not worth putting the time. You can pick up a new mower for under $200
@martinvs6415
@martinvs6415 Жыл бұрын
I have a small engines certificate from my local community college and I must say, I still have plenty to learn. Subscribed to your channel today and hope to get some repair knowledge from a front line mechanic. Thank you for sharing this. I did replace the crankshaft on one machine and it worked fine for a long time after.
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 5 ай бұрын
I was in the industry for thirty years. The way things are trending, small i.c.e. are going to be extinct in a few short years, replaced with battery electrics.
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing attention to detail brother ! Nice pride in your work! Thanks
@trentwilliamson4509
@trentwilliamson4509 3 жыл бұрын
I made thousands last summer flipping mowers with this engine. My favorite engine ever. Never ran into this before. Thanks for the knowledge!
@thebluelunarmonkey
@thebluelunarmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I fix them for free for the neighborhood kids that get off their butts and cut lawns for money.
@burcman2666
@burcman2666 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you have the best luck selling them?
@simplywonderful449
@simplywonderful449 3 жыл бұрын
Having the key on the crankshaft shear off is a very common problem with these mowers where the engine's crankshaft has the blade directly bolted to it. When the blade hits something "unmovable", such as a rock, the flywheel continues to turn, shearing off the key. The engine then won't start because the spark timing is extremely far off. While common with push mowers, I've even had it on a John Deere lawn tractor, whose engine crank isn't directly attached to the blades; apparently that problem was caused by a backfire or other issue, but exhibited the same no-start symptoms.
@philsmith5829
@philsmith5829 2 жыл бұрын
Its not always visible that theres a problem until the flywheel is removed and the key inspected , whats helped me is to inspect the blade and underside usually if its backfiring and the blades been damages you can bet the key is sheared and timing is off
@jameshester1450
@jameshester1450 2 жыл бұрын
Generate when they hit something to stop the blade the momentum of the flywheel continues
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 2 жыл бұрын
I've had ones where the flywheel to crank is off a tiny bit and it was no start. Removed and reinstalled flywheel and it worked,
@jepomer
@jepomer 2 жыл бұрын
I was hesitant to watch this when I saw it was 26 minutes long. Most videos that long tend to have lots of babbling with little real diagnosis and repair steps. This video was properly detailed. I learned a lot. Thank you.
@paulcoomer8486
@paulcoomer8486 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show the camshaft failure at the end !
@watchdogu.s.a.8973
@watchdogu.s.a.8973 2 жыл бұрын
Hello James. This is my first time to see one of your videos and I have now subscribed to your channel. It is a pleasure watching someone work who methodically and properly diagnoses problems. It is impressive to see another person who cleans before disassembling, also. Great job on doing things RIGHT!
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@waili1078
@waili1078 Жыл бұрын
+1
@Barracuda48082
@Barracuda48082 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, bring back the old briggs style...never an issue except for plug fouling from worn valve seats..hand lap reface, good aluminum carbs with brass seats and neoprene seals.. Had this type issue on a brand new 7250w generator..out of box..that was a teardown ! Three day fix, started up, plugged into home power, ran fifteen minutes and utility can back on .ha!
@joeguilfoyle1922
@joeguilfoyle1922 Жыл бұрын
You're right! Out of all of the things that it could've been, I would've never thought of this. Thanks.
@robinfleet7094
@robinfleet7094 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense that the gear broke loose, it has the least amount of surface area in contact with the metal shaft. Without splines, pinning or keyway that is where I'd suspect rotation to have occurred. Great video, thanks.
@stirlingfromla
@stirlingfromla 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been a big Briggs & Stratton fan boy, and had no idea that they had sunk to that level of installing plastic cams. This really made me sad.
@REM505
@REM505 3 жыл бұрын
I gave up on B&S years ago noticing things like that. Also the local Amish rental place only uses Honda engines.
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 3 жыл бұрын
www.ereplacementparts.com/pulley-camshaft-p-554847.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5PGFBhC2ARIsAIFIMNdCCiANHXUKnKw2eE7pl26DL6a6jpiUTW9VcqGAVMwDjCkw0-214ywaAkzaEALw_wcB. Honda does it the same way.
@mikeclarke3005
@mikeclarke3005 3 жыл бұрын
Been a Honda fan for many power equipment lately not one of the Honda engines have for years has ever had a problem no matter how poor the maintenance has been.
@cwytonweb
@cwytonweb 3 жыл бұрын
Briggs has been using plastic cam gears for at least 15-20 years.
@cwytonweb
@cwytonweb 3 жыл бұрын
Btw, the metal cam gears everyone loves so much will corrode and fuse to the gear on the shaft in a matter of months if they sit, especially once the oil goes bad.
@kevgermany
@kevgermany 3 жыл бұрын
Plastic cams.... Insane. Seems that every time they stick plastic inside an engine, reliability disappears. Good work.
@BitSmythe
@BitSmythe 3 жыл бұрын
Plastic INSIDE an engine? That is ABSOLUTELY the worst case of planned obsolescence!
@michaeld1906
@michaeld1906 2 жыл бұрын
Especially coming from Briggs and Stratton, that’s what happens when you have try to save on cost
@wb8ujb
@wb8ujb 2 жыл бұрын
Another good job under your belt. Thanks for sharing with all of us.
@williamyorkolepossum
@williamyorkolepossum Жыл бұрын
Great Work! Not many folks would have gone to that much trouble with that mower.
@chrisnemec5644
@chrisnemec5644 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I thought it would be the lobes on the camshaft that got loose. Your channel has taught me more about small engines than I ever learned in school.
@jjyemg2397
@jjyemg2397 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Mustie1 You will learn a ton more
@chrisnemec5644
@chrisnemec5644 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjyemg2397 I already follow him.
@xmradio11
@xmradio11 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that informative video. I have a 14 year old Toro with basically the same motor. It still runs and starts great. One thing that amazes me is that the oil never seems to get dirty. It always looks new on the dipstick. I have a very small bit of lawn. Only a 20 minute job and I only change the oil every 2-3 years with amsoil even though it still looks good.
@daviddare5550
@daviddare5550 Жыл бұрын
Use detergent oil. Non-detergent does not pick up dirt so it always looks clean which makes it hard to determine how old it is.
@johnnynerhagen4292
@johnnynerhagen4292 Ай бұрын
Perfect, this is the film I needed to see. I think my lawn mower have the same issue. Thank you.
@luvkountry
@luvkountry 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video . We learn something new every day and this is no exception. Real nice to see someone taking the time to teach others how to fix things especially the lawn mowers and yard equipment. I'm however surprised that a reputable engine builder would use such cheaply made parts in their products. Thank you for your for posting this video.
@gulfmarine8857
@gulfmarine8857 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody fixes shit in today's throwaway world. Global warming is going to teach all the idiots a lesson.
@leroydavis3538
@leroydavis3538 Жыл бұрын
Great to follow that diagnosis and repair
@timgurr1876
@timgurr1876 Жыл бұрын
@@leroydavis3538 Only way to remain competitive is to use lower cost materials. Since we have become a throwaway society, most repair shops would probably not repair this mower. I basically gave some old lawn mowers to the dealer I bought my riding lawn mower from. He said they would just go into the junk pile. Neither of the old lawn mowers had that many hours on them. They just kept failing on the power drive system and after the 2nd time with less than 10 hours on it (a good seasons mowing for my yard and would not work the following spring) I decided it was not worth spending another $150 for the same repair. Lawn mower was from a very well known manufacturer in the Minnesota. Just a bad and unreliable design.
@leecowell8165
@leecowell8165 Жыл бұрын
Its a Briggs...
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 10 ай бұрын
Briggs went bankrupt a couple of years ago,I think some of the last engines made were a lot worse than the one in the video. Some other company picked up the assets and trademarks. @@leecowell8165
@FeralPreacher
@FeralPreacher 3 жыл бұрын
You're right, James, I would never have thought of the cam lobes moving. Just shows the 'designed obsolescence' in making a plastic camshaft. Ultimate stupidity in my opinion. But if the "design" is to last only as long as the warranty, brilliant idea. Thanks for sharing.
@calvinmientke3539
@calvinmientke3539 2 жыл бұрын
I save old steel cams and file off the compression bump. If you can't pull over a Brigs, stay in the house.
@fixitallpaul4847
@fixitallpaul4847 Жыл бұрын
They know most people dont do enough maintenance to get more than 2-4 years from a mower.
@xptechmikie
@xptechmikie Жыл бұрын
Very good. I would not have recognized that issue, and now I know what went wrong on other machines that I couldn't figure out... . Thank you...
@olblu8746
@olblu8746 21 күн бұрын
Great job! I wish l had a son like you. You seem to be a very good young man. You cut the grass and clean up after you. Most of todays youth wont cut grass for their parents. God bless you.
@nakedhombre
@nakedhombre 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very satisfying video from start to finish. Just because you did not skip any of the steps made this easy to follow in fact I think it is genius. Even to the final chapter of demonstrating the reliability and cutting ability make for a complete presentation. I even enjoyed sweeping up the debris in your shop. It shows respect for your craft and pride in your work. Now this is what I call a video! Very well done.
@jcondon1
@jcondon1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@scott5309
@scott5309 Жыл бұрын
Next time drill a small hole in it and install a cotterpin for a much cheaper fix.
@larslarsman
@larslarsman Жыл бұрын
@@scott5309 What I was thinking. My idea a roll pin but the cotter is a better idea, as it would be mechanically unable to fly out.
@shanesgettinghandy
@shanesgettinghandy 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the sweep-up end shot. Smart.
@randyhanson837
@randyhanson837 Жыл бұрын
Nice work James. Liked your prep work and use of pre-lube as well. Professional level work.
@robalexander7348
@robalexander7348 Жыл бұрын
Well done James, i enjoyed the mower repair, you slowly and carefully carried out this job, which i prefer to do. Greetings from Australia 👍
@seansysig
@seansysig 3 жыл бұрын
James, I’ve come across this as my sister hit a water shutoff valve in her lawn. I was able to straighten out the decompression valve and drilled a hole for a spring pin to locate & lock the plastic gear in proper timing. My sister has used it for a couple seasons now with no issues. The air trick is a great way to diagnose what's going on.
@cliffhalse1326
@cliffhalse1326 Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was going to suggest to anchor gear n cams 👍
@johndondero8619
@johndondero8619 3 жыл бұрын
Nice fix James. You work and explain everything like a gentleman!
@andrepaquet8086
@andrepaquet8086 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have the same problem and your video was very helpfull. That save my second hand lawn mower. I never did mecanic but your video is so good that I fix it by myself!!
@GorgyPorgy65
@GorgyPorgy65 Жыл бұрын
What a great job ! I thought about fixing mine after that but I'm not sure I could do all the fiddly bits !
@woolval52
@woolval52 3 жыл бұрын
Where's your son? LOL, he should be mowing that yard. I remember him starting a generator for you once. As soon as it started he ran away! Has he stopped running or is he running like Forest Gump? Another great repair. I enjoy watching you methodically and calmly work on things. Slow and steady, no sledgehammers involved...
@zero-by6ib
@zero-by6ib 2 жыл бұрын
Child labor quiet nice ain't it 😒
@socorropando7222
@socorropando7222 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. You know your Stuff.
@frankhobsonKJ4CDM
@frankhobsonKJ4CDM 3 жыл бұрын
James you make a great channel with interesting content. Use to love piddling with small engines.
@bretsalyer
@bretsalyer Жыл бұрын
Sounds great! Runs like a champ.
@patrickbailey2263
@patrickbailey2263 11 ай бұрын
awesome! got 3 of these in the shop with same problem! FANTASTIC video! thank you!!
@davidpierceful
@davidpierceful 3 жыл бұрын
Your methodical focused trouble-shooting is enjoyable to observe.
@Pterocarpous
@Pterocarpous 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A real pleasure in and of itself.
@QuantumMechanic_88
@QuantumMechanic_88 3 жыл бұрын
even though he leaves the sparkplug wire connected . LOL
@bobbrinkerhoff3592
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 3 жыл бұрын
First clue there was a problem, it was exactly full of fresh, clean oil. Especially if the mower is under warranty. I've seen engines with broken connecting rods, but they were full of fresh oil! F.Y.I. always remove the spark plug when Workink underneath the mower, I have seen them start and run with the plug wire over an inch away from the plug!!!
@lawrencebryan1867
@lawrencebryan1867 2 жыл бұрын
great job.felt like we were doing the job together. nothing like being able to fix things
@jmbvianney
@jmbvianney 14 күн бұрын
Incredible video! Absolutely clear explanations and such tremendous attention to detail. Thank you!
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