Edmunds. Give me the jeep any day. The lx was outdated the second it was unveiled to the world 😂 It’s my way of saying I told you so

Edmonds. Give me a Toyota/Lexus any day. The LX will make it to 300k miles easy, the Jeep is going to need a lot of shop visits to get there. I wish the grill was different though. Love the jeep, but not as a daily driver… I don’t have the patience.

@@Erin-Thor that argument is valid… if you’re not spending 6 digits

@@naveenthemachine - Toyota Lexus admits it’s design and tech is outdated, however they last decades with little or no unscheduled maintenance. And if you dare to take it off-road… Toyota and all it’s outdated glory will tow the jeep you trailered in back to its trailer when you’re broken down in the boonies where no tow truck will go.

@@Erin-Thor 😂. Toyota towing the jeep does sound funny.

So that you can keep spending on repairs and the vehicle being in the shop most of the time? How wise is that?

On the road...not off the road. I'd like to see you hang with a Power Wagon off road.

How often do you change your oil?

@@zhamed9587 every 2k miles - he spent $130k changing the oil :)

Do you still have your landcruiser? I have a 200, but would like the LX600 too. Still not confident yet!

@@jeffmendoza6556 I sold it. I also sold the lx470, currently I have only the 2017 lx570 and the 2011 ls460. With the prices of cars these days is unbelievable.

You still have to gas them up after? Wtf? Something is wrong

Lexus is the best

How often do you change your oil?

i agree

You don't know that.If old V8 was still in Lexus i would agree,but we don't know yet ,how this twin turbo V6 will be reliability wise. Nobody is making bad cars these days. Jeep invested big money in this platform. I would feel more special in this Grand Wagoneer than Lexus.

@dzh dzh 😂

Don't tell my 05 grand that. Over 300000 and runs like new.

10 years later Lexus still Ugly as today

Not based on the two pieces of Licks-ass trash I was dumb enough to buy.

I know tell me about it. My 2017 Rav4 AWD is in the shop all the time just spent another $1,700 last week into it where my 2018 Dodge Charger has been perfect. Never a Toyota again.

@@bikingD You might be one of the exceptions because all data, reports, and lists say Toyota is much more reliable than Dodge. Good luck to you.

@@johnJohn-dz4ex Actually Ram was number 1 and Dodge number 2 in JD Power owner quality surveys. Plus best friend who is a Toyota service advisor. He drives a Rav to work but has a 300 and Jeep at home so know all of Toyota's issues.

@@bikingD lol you believe jd power bump

@@canalesivany No I believe my repair bills for my Toyota.

Yet, you can't tell people you have either....

@@TheGreatEscape9833 and you know this because?...

@@ebruceii because someone who has something wouldn't use the word "would" to describe something he could.

Why would the car you drive make you feel proud? You can't really be that shallow

The grand wagoneer also has all that in the rear minus the power and massage adjustments. Plus the jeep was way more space. So if anything you’ll be more comfortable in the jeep than the Lexus. Have you seen TFLs take on the LX ultra luxury? The rear seats look very tight

@@naveenthemachine i have seen it but they never said the seats were uncomfortable they have good bolstering, while on the grand wagoneer rear seats are flat and bench type but with seperate armrests and even though it has more space it does not have anyplace to keep your feet to lie down, jeeps sound systems aren't as that good as Lexus either and neither are there cooled seats, the Lexus also has softer suspension which great for sitting in the back seat but worse for driving, how are jeeps back seats more comfortable when they are not even powered, it is clear the rear seats were not the main focus of the wagoneer providing space and having alot of screen space was, and jeep doesent even try to market grand wagoneer as an off roader, the Lexus at least comes with see through camera angles

He said only one seat in the rear Lexus has massage

@@shivamarya5225 As the driver, why do you care what it's like in the passenger seats? What you claim Jeep missed, I would say the same for Lexus. Why do I need to go to the back seat for a massage? I have a Wagoneer, and while it doesn't have the same luxury as the Grand, it still is an amazing vehicle and drives significantly better than the Lexus. I've driven them both and selling luxury automobiles is what I do for a living. The new Lexus styling isn't for my taste and is a bit lack-luster when considering the price tag but rivals like Land/Range Rover and Mercedes are both better in quality and offer more luxury than the Lexus.

@@TheGreatEscape9833 Because the Lexus is for people who dont drive their own cars, like corporate heads, they have a driver, if you sell luxury cars for a living then you should know that, your logic is terrible. If you are being driven around then how would you get a massage in that wagoneer

2 years? the lexus will work 30 years down the line while the other heap of trash (wagoneer) will sit in the junkyard in 2 years

@@zhila5958 I'm not sure any ICE car that isn't an ultra rare supercar will work in 30 years

@@zhila5958 you ppl act like Lexus doesn't have any issues when they do and tonnes of them even Toyota isn't reliable anymore

@@dor1tomcswagger69 Exactly. Ppl just hear stories of agricultural like trucks that Toyota used to make in the last decades and they didnt break cause they were literary as basic as a lawn mover lol Its not the same anymore no other manufacturer still can break the recall record that Toyota has managed to achieve in both volume and number of recalls 😂 their marketing is so strong tho that made people blind to the facts

those of us who have owned plenty of toyotas will know that toyota vehicles have their fair share of troubles. so that toyota cars never die fable no longer exists

I would absolutely blame you if you chose the Lexus 😂.

@@naveenthemachine I can’t change your behavior or quick judgment. You do you.

Only if you don't care about reliability!

@@alighost8171 do you honestly care about reliability if you’re spending 100K or more? 20-35K. Sure reliability is important. 40-50K maybe reliability is somewhat of a concern but not too much. Then of course the higher you go in price the less that reliability becomes an issue. Do you see people with rolls Royce or Bentleys complaining about reliability even though they are 2 to 5 times the cost?

@@naveenthemachine would you even believe someone if they told you they were of this demographic and they did care?

What's that logic with "all the tech will be outdated anyway"? Doesn't that mean it's better to go with the one that's the most future proof so you're not suffering from the lack of modern features form day 1? You will be better off at the end of the the car's useful lifespan in the one with better tech from the start? Even putting subjective stuff aside (and assuming that Chrysler has improved the horrid reliability), both of these are definitely bottom of the class. If you like these over the rivals, buy it. People always just go with the one they like subjectively. Smart money is on something else. In 2022, everything is expensive to maintain so why not go with the nicer one - the GLS, X7, or Cadillac (Navigator has too much piano black for my taste). The RR, Bentayga, Urus, DBX aren't really in the question. If you can afford one of those, you aren't buying for the long haul ;) and you don't care as much about reliability because you know what you're signing up for as you point out. Speaking of off-roading all of the above are overkill for the type of stuff people do like driving on gravel, grass, or snow. None of these would/should be your choice for a "real" off-roader.

@@tool8337 Basing a vehicle purchase on strictly tech is my main point. Is there any tech in the Jeep that isn’t in the LX. Subjectively one may be better layed out or better screen sizes etc. However the actual technology isn’t that different. I just think the LX’s tech will last longer without breakdown. What tech is the LX lacking that the jeep or x7 or gls have? I will say that a x7 or gls arguably looks better. In 7 years all tech will look equally dated. As well as exterior styling to an extent. What stands the test of time is build quality and build material. Don’t see too many ppl rocking a blackberry these days. Tech is disposable. Too many ppl look at vehicles the same way - and for the ones that don’t the LX is the better buy. Just my opinion. Also been proven that truck based SUV’s last the longest compared to unibody. So it’s not just an off roading thing but a longevity thing.

@@michaelreis4789 I definitely agree with you there. I was speaking generally that it's better to go with the better tech because it won't look AS BAD in x-many years. If you consider that in terms of tech features, the LX and Jeep are equal, considering Lexus's stellar reputation for reliability and Jeeps pathetic reliability, the LX is surely the way to go. However, Its not enough that the car has the features on a spec sheet, it's how well they work. There's a lot of features that the GLS has that neither of these do and I can promise you that the tech just works better. Like the cameras are higher res, the screens are faster, the ventilated seats are cooler. It's a personal question whether that matters for you enough to go with one over another. I wouldn't buy a vehicle purely on tech, but it is an important factor. In the last two decades, cars aren't only differentiated by the way they feel and perform, its about the infotainment and how well you get along with the features. I would argue that not only does the GLS have more features that work better, but the sum of the parts is greater. There's sooo many Mercedes features that even mercedes owners don't know about that amount to a more complete experience. Plus, the interior environment is more relaxing, the technology is better integrated and more satisfying, the ride and handling are better, the gas mileage and performance are better. Though, historically body-on-frame SUVs last longer, the driving experience is inferior. Plus, it might not even last longer, there are nearly as many high mileage Mercedes SUVs out there as Lexus ones.

how you know the wagoneer is unreliable ? Its new to the market and its will be reliable because jeep engines especially the 8 v are reliable

I have been observing reliability data from various reliable sources for about 47 years and Toyota has always been more reliable than Jeep, Chrysler both short term and long term. It’s predictable reliability trend.

@John Asbury Horrible comparison ..... There are toyota brands that have issues on the level with gladiator

When the new 4Runner comes out you’ll have that choice

I haven’t even started to watch this comparison video yet and I was thinking this exact same thing…

Ah so you're from the future I see

Yes, but very few people keep their vehicles that long. Humans like and want change.

@@dtay8913 look at the data...... so many old Toyota Landcruisers are still roaming around...especially in Africa and the middle east. The Toyota Landcruiser is built to meet the UN's specifications.....25 years or 300,000 with minimal maintenance and mechanical work required...... that's why the Toyota Landcruiser from the 80s and 90s and 2000s are still roaming on our American roads......the UN has made the Toyota Landcruiser its official vehicle for a very credible reason.......terrorist groups are using it for a very strategic reason...... so good that our American military with its fancy tanks, drones, etc lost every war in the middle east to terrorist groups who only had Toyota Landcruisers or Hilux trucks.....now that's some real evidence you cannot deny or ignore or reject or discredit or debate about......

@@dtay8913 the Toyota Landcruiser 100 series are still on the road today.....I was a baby in the mid 90s...... that's evidence you can't debate.... how many Jeep Cherokee you see on the roads today from the 90s????

...and one of the reasons why Simon prefers the Grand Wagoneer.

US=the World? 🕵️‍♂️

@@edwinyurigattorno ohh cmon.. it’s in almost every country

Nahh, never heard the grand wagoneer anywhere outside US LAND CRUISER name is worldwide and reputation of its off-road capability is only matched by the more expensive g class Dont get me started on the reliability

@@PrinzAquatic dude.. I know the Grand Wagoneer didn't exist outside of the US, but the old Grand Wagoneer was as reliable as a Land Cruiser, and it was the very first luxury family SUV to exist.

@@jonlosito2004 still valid point - Grand Wagoneer did not made it to the world. Now the new version - is coming from dealers around Europe. But Land Cruiser was global mark, GW was and is not.

No, it doesn't.

You did note that the reviewer would not even consider buying the Lexus.

We had a big off-road test planned but both vehicles came to us in top luxury trims with 22-inch wheels and road tires. Just not ideal for wheelin’

Agreed. Sequoia is the better SUV. Only advantages the LX has is AHC and AWD. Sequoia has a TRD pro though with fox suspension and longer travel.

@@MrJcjet the sequoia also has a rear locking differential something lacking on the lx

@@naveenthemachine that's true. No locker on the LX. Wish the Sequoia had the front locker option like the LC300. I think the Sequoia gets the 10.5 rear axle too. It's really going to be a great platform for off-road builds. The hybrid battery placement is a real head scratcher though. Cargo area is a hot mess in the Sequoia.

Definitely get the sequoia over lx600

Lexus 9/10 Jeep 7/10

With all the camera views on the Grand Wagoneer I have not had any trouble parking. Also for the Grand Wagoneer can park itself. (literally park itself)

I rather get the LX sport for less

Other way around. The jeep is the no brainer 😂. Any brand will have issues even Toyota.

@@naveenthemachine Funniest thing I've read in a while. Spoken like a true Jeep apologist.

@@mattspeer01 even a Lexus apologist can’t justify choosing this over its rivals. The reliability argument just won’t work at this price range If reliability is so important Why don’t people with rolls Royce or Bentleys complain about reliability

@@naveenthemachine I am personally not a Lexus apologist as I have never owned one, but Lexus very obviously has a much better and well earned reputation than Jeep. I have personally owned three FCA products (out of fifteen total cars) and I would rank all three of them dead last in my list of cars. All have been godawful in almost every way.

anyone who buys FCA trash deserves to learn the hard way

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Imagine buying a lexus intead of this jeep.......

thats because they drank the "luxury" kool aid. they were told those brands are luxry so they assume they are luxury...but what is luxury? leather and wood trim and a touch screen...k..every car has that nowadays.