How you fix the center screw , any ale key is fixing to mine jl. Look rounded,

Good note here.

Thx man!

just did this to my 2016 JKU and it made a huge difference!

What year is your jeep? Mine is 2022 and was thinking of trying this.

Did you do try this fix on your JTRD yet? If so, did it help? I have the same 2021 JTRD lifted w/ 37's as well and my steering is so sloppy right now.

Sector shafts reinforcement

How did you go about accessing it? Seems a lot harder to get to than on a gasser.

Do you have the same issue ? In what month /year your car was made ?

I have heard some dont want to turn. Glad yours worked out.

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Would love to hear what they say. I have a "dealer connect" printout of the repair from the 2018 but it appears they won't do this repair anymore. I bet they tell you its in spec or replace it. The problem may persist if they replace it with a similarly sloppy box.

My dealer listened to me, asked to see the video, and with his service manager and technician viewing the video they decided to tune up the steering! Great news - appointment is tomorrow!

@@kellydrolet4740 Which dealer?

I took mine to the dealer they’re checking mine, but the guy at the front desk was saying, “oh well it’s going to be loose because it’s a Wrangler 😭 I’m hoping they fix it like you or somehow tighten it up a little. I just bought mine and I was thinking it needed an alignment since it was really sloppy especially on the freeway.

Addressed this at the dealership 1st oil change. They put a new steering box in. No improvement; I’d like to try this as I’ve considered selling it because of the steering play. Especially hard to steer when towing my boat.

Was there a long wait for parts?

@@Michael_ryan91 They told me it might be a week but called 3 days later and said bring it in.

I did the tsb. It was vastly improved.

@@c130aviator Great, thanks! I just emailed my closest Jeep dealer here in Tampa asking to replace mine per TSB. Since this is a known issue, can they order the part and schedule the repair or I would need to go there and give them my Wrangler for a test drive then let them decide where it's bad ir not?

@@luciddreamer6000 I’m on the same boat lol. Good question

I have a 2021 mojava that came with a steel box. It wanders like a stray dog.

​@@danielhough6818 did you fix it yet mine is bad and got the same truck

Good luck. I think this is by far the best option to date for our Jeeps.

TewlTalk I saw things about a pcm flash for the power steering pump, but i just don’t understand how the pump has anything to do with the dead zone. It’s annoying to have an inch to an inch and a half in either direction. But oddly it does seem to tighten at 70mph.

There is a new tsb at the dealer now, that replaces the steering box. It made a huge difference.

@@c130aviator I got that done, it was night and day, I'm still going to try your mod, cuz mine still seems to have more play than I'd like.

Also check the dealer, they have replaced the box now under a new tsb.

@@c130aviator I will but im sure it's gonna be a bit tricky ;-) driving an US spec Gladiator in Belgium wont be my best advantage ;-) just for example the answer i got from Jeep Dealer yesterday about the warranty extention at 5 years and 200.000km : According that your vehicule is imported from the US market, FCA( Jeep) don't take in charge the warranty of your vehicule .... Surrealistic isnt ;-)

Did u find a solution for the steering play?

@@taimurtaimur2196 nope. After looking at it more, mine actually has alot less slop than other new Jeeps on the lot. Will continue to monitor.

My dealer listened to me, asked to see the video, and with his service manager and technician viewing the video they decided to tune up the steering! Great news - appointment is tomorrow

Awesome news!

I worked as a GM tech for many years. Did a lot of rebuilds on steering boxes and the big thing with this type of adjustment is if not don’t properly you will notice that while taking a turn your steering wheel will not return to the straight position on its own, it will be to tight to do so. If your steering returns after a turn as it always did then your good to go 👍

Like the Jeep warranty is worth anything anyway. Many like me have spent thousands on our Jeep steering trying to fix what FCA won’t. Thanks for this video, I’m going to give it a try. I’ve already replaced every other steering component including the aluminum steering box and the sector shaft brace and I still have sloppy steering that sticks.

@@pstallin My thoughts exactly. Jeep is worthless when it comes to fixing the shit that they put out. But then, I guess we're just as guilty for buying it :D

I know it PO's me that it has such wonky steering.

Yeah, this and the narrow seating have been my biggest complaints. I'm off tomorrow and looks like I have a new project!!

This was free!

Caster doesn't fix the sloppy feel. I have addressed this. Thank you for the polite reply.

CANNOT ADJUST CASTER IN STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4.8 deg is rec for the mopar lift. I modified it in several areas so that numer is a ballpark imho. Use 5.5 or 6 degrees. Don't need to touch your uppers at these heights. Get a real alignment with a shop ask them to set caster to 6.

TewlTalk so circling back to my original question... how far in degrees did you go on the castor originally? The reason I’m sticking on this is because I had a JK that I put a Metal Cloak 2” lift, King adjustable shocks, and all the other pieces that would be professional and appropriate ....but only after I added a ton of castor did the car drive actually quite well..... with the JL, it feels more like a castor issue in addition with a fair amount of slop in the steering box. I’m just wondering if you had gone further with the castor adjustment ... would you have gotten to the same if not more comfort level with the steering?

See my other vids on ssb

No offense but if you need a video to get to this, it's probably not something you should take on. Get some one to help. Good luck with the fix, jeep should have done it from the start.

@@c130aviator Well I got my steering tightened up. Removing that stuff was unnecessary. You mentioned getting the proper torque on the 15mm nut. What is the proper torque for that and how did you get that torque without a torque wrench??

You could add a bit more if its still lined up. Just depends on how you want it. Just leave a little room for the fluid when the truck is on. It will feel loose when off but snug when on.

Yes, do this first. When you do the other parts it all adds to the strength and stability of this box.

I couldn’t move mine either. We have a 21 and it came from the factory with the updated steering box. I think they somehow locked the adjustment hex screw making it impossible to turn it. Sure would like to know from anyone here how to adjust this box since our steering is still too sloppy.

@@A320Andrew did u find a solution for the sloppiness?

I had it replaced per the tsb. Glad it worked out. Thx for the update. I did a video of the new box.

Yes. I just got the truck back. Its way better!

I would still recommend the slop adjustment, but if you can get the dealer to get you the upgrade box do it.

@@c130aviator do you have a tazer? did you unmarry it before bringing it in? and did they do it with your sector shaft brace? and reinstall the brace?

@@roccomanochio I do have a tazer. I took it off as well as the synergy brace 42mm nut

I will do a followup. While keeping an eye on the steering box. If you follow my video to the t with a cool box, there will be enough play in the box, while fixing the slop. See, I pulled the bolt from above the spring on the driver side. 13mm. Checked backlash to 15 thousandths. So this is more than just a feel but used it to gauge the steering wheel for the video to be safe.

@@c130aviator Where are you measuring backlash at? the pitman arm? Also, do you have a lift? I feel that my JT was great until the dealer-installed the Mopar lift and 35x12.5R20 now I can't keep this jeep in its lane on the freeway.

Needs heat on some vehicles to loosen the set screw and the nut.

I have done it. This video was earlier in the year.

Dealer, this is only good if you have no other option. Imho

No, they are pretty tight.

Bump steer is typically caused by one of two things, lifting your Wrangler incorrectly or loose, broken, or bent suspension components. ... The angles that matter in this situation are the angles of your track bar and drag link, on a stock Wrangler, these two will be parallel to each other.

Completely normal. Jjst have to take it offroad a few times and have the vehicle in neutral. If you can let the vehicle roll a bit while in neutral it will go in a bit easier.

Yes

@@c130aviator Did you torque spect this or no, if you did torque it, what is the torque for the steering gear bolt and adjust screw lock nut?

@@jayhernandez6812 I did not on this bolt. I lined the green marks back up on the box. That is factory spec.

I feel the Synergy trackbar brace (that I paid full price for shipped to Guam), is a great part. Its a valuable part that centers that sector shaft allowing for a more steady adjustment to the steering box. It works hand in hand with this video. The trackbar also is a good part because the stock bar is 8 lbs, my Rock Krawler Trackbar weighs 18 lbs. It does not flex like the stock piece. It makes the suspension stiffer and less sloppy.

​@@c130aviator Thanks again. I added the Synergy Trackbar brace per your recommendation. Tightened the steering and helped a bunch. I also changed out the trackbar with Synergy but then went back to factory. The Synergy didn’t fit quite right and made a lot of noise. The factory worked fine since I’m not lifted. I also did the Updated Fuse Technique posted by CaliforniaJeeping on the JLForum. That reset mostly fixed the wandering. It’s a shame FCA is selling JLs and Gladiators with faulty steering and banking on aftermarket fixes to limit their liability. I enjoy your post so please keep them coming!!

@@scottcarpenter5988 thanks for info I had to do a search for the Updated Fuse Technique and to save time for others, here it is below: californiajeeping said: Updated Power Steering Reset Fuse Technique Some have reported this fixed a few different steering issues such as the dead spot, loose steering, pulling, etc. Note: It might not be a good idea to try this procedure if you have already made other modifications to tighten steering like adjusting the steering box lash screw. Keep in mind that this same reset occurs if you have a dead battery or replaced the battery so if you have made other steering tightening modifications you may have over tight steering. 1. With the JL off, remove F34 power steering fuse. 2. Start the JL, notice no power steering by turning the steering wheel and dash message error appears. Do not drive it. 3. Turn off engine. Open driver door and close it so it completely turns off all dash lights. Let it sit for at least 5 minutes so all electronics fully discharge. 4. Reinsert F34 fuse, start engine, immediately turn steering wheel full left, full right, turn to center, turn engine off. Restart and take for a test drive.

click key forward to unlock wheel, but not running.

Dealers will take it and diagnose it. They won't fix anything that is in specification. Its still sloppy with a new box too.

Listen, the dealer has a bulletin and instructions for techs to fix this. The PCM was programmed incorrectly, and does not provide enough hydro electric steering assist at highway speeds. They will flash the PCM for free, and it will drive great. Do not adjust your steering box. There needs to be 1" of rotational play at the steering wheel. Any tighter and the box won't last long. Do not mistake steering box play for the wandering problem.

@@wheezin_mtnbkr3576 do you know if this affects the 2022 ?

@@wheezin_mtnbkr3576 22?

Tsb was still sloppy but at least the box is steel.

@@c130aviator Did you then do what you did in the video to the steel box to repair it? If this is a reoccurring issue, this is the last vehicle I want. Nearly killed my wife driving it back to the dealership.

You may have to heat them with a torch to loosen it a bit or use a more robust allen wrench socket on a ratchet

@@c130aviator use some wd40, let it set , heating up a bolt connected to your steering box could be a bad idea...