Raspberry Pi demolished by monster 128-core ARM CPU!

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Jeff Geerling

Jeff Geerling

Күн бұрын

The collab nobody knew we needed. I took my 6-node Raspberry Pi cluster to @ServeTheHomeVideo and faced it off against a 128-core monster ARM server.
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Mentioned in this video:
- ServeTheHome (website): www.servethehome.com
- ServeTheHome (KZfaq): / servethehomevideo
- The video Patrick has is the "Supermicro ARS-210ME-FNR", with the M128-30 CPU
- DeskPi Super6c [Amazon]: amzn.to/3AH8kNh
- DeskPi Super6c [Direct]: deskpi.com/collections/deskpi...
- DeskPi Super6c Mini ITX case [Amazon]: amzn.to/3XnJxHP
- DeskPi Super6c Mini ITX case [Direct]: deskpi.com/collections/deskpi...
- Guide for Raspberry Pi CM4 NVMe boot: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/202...
- DeskPi Super6c Ceph Storage Cluster video: • 6-in-1: Build a 6-node...
- Top500 Ansible Automated Benchmark Playbook: github.com/geerlingguy/top500...
- Blog post with more benchmarking results: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/202...
Contents:
00:00 - 24 cores - but not the same
00:52 - Apples to Apples
03:50 - Size comparison
04:52 - ARM in the cloud? Edge?
05:55 - ARM v ARM: top500 showdown
06:44 - New new bramble
07:38 - No time for microSD, we go NVMe
08:56 - Super6c, Super improved
10:27 - Linpack on the Pis
12:02 - Linpack on the Ampere Altra Max
12:46 - Price to performance
13:53 - Benchmarking methodology
14:56 - Is ARM the most efficient?
16:46 - GPUs: efficiency kings
17:48 - Platform maturity vs x86
19:38 - So what's the verdict?
20:39 - Surprise Stolen Supermicro

Пікірлер: 951
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
What a super-fun collaboration exploring Arm server options! Thank you for stopping by Jeff!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
It was so fun to do this video... maybe we can figure out another fun project for next year?
@PrinceDare
@PrinceDare Жыл бұрын
Hope you got back the Server he stole lol at the end we all saw you Jeff. lool 🤣🤣🤣
@vicmaxabc
@vicmaxabc Жыл бұрын
We need more of those!
@slowtrigger
@slowtrigger Жыл бұрын
Keep doing more, that was fun
@flekkzo
@flekkzo Жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling You could set up a mastodon instance on a pi cluster. See how it holds up:)
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts Жыл бұрын
2021 Linus flexes doing videos on million dollar home, 2022 Jeff flexes showing off he ownes multiple Rasberry Pi units.
@lordjaashin
@lordjaashin Жыл бұрын
i make my pies in owen too lol
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts Жыл бұрын
@@lordjaashin stupid auto correct
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp Жыл бұрын
he has the last batch of RPIs while they were still made. But the PI entered the halls of history, it was good while it lasted.
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts Жыл бұрын
@@monad_tcp I think he is the reason for the shortage. He just uses them once and throws them away after each video lol
@yourboi1842
@yourboi1842 Жыл бұрын
They that rare? I traded someone a pin zero w for like a pair of wire strippers and a 32v 20a power supply
@draconightwalker4964
@draconightwalker4964 Жыл бұрын
Patrick and Jeff. In one video. Talking ARM servers and RPIs. Awesome
@scottwilliams895
@scottwilliams895 Жыл бұрын
Truly excellent crossover episode!
@otrab1080
@otrab1080 Жыл бұрын
Amazing that he was able to find 6 compute modules let alone regular Raspberry Pis
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
The secret is to order them in late 2020 😭
@juntapiezas
@juntapiezas Жыл бұрын
It just the RaspberryPi trend since the beginning. I remember the months I needed to get my hands on the first one...
@jeroentaverne8232
@jeroentaverne8232 Жыл бұрын
Call this Pi server "unobtainium"
@juliusfucik4011
@juliusfucik4011 Жыл бұрын
I can still get them rather easily, but at 3-4 times the price. It's insane.
@nathanhamman418
@nathanhamman418 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Now you tell us.
@DJEshelman-personal
@DJEshelman-personal Жыл бұрын
When I saw this thumbnail I literally went to "The Collab nobody knew they needed" only to find it was the first line of the description. Great minds and all that... Good stuff y'all!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
Haha you know it!
@3v068
@3v068 Жыл бұрын
It seriously makes my day when you're feeling good enough to make a video and post it. Glad to see you upload again Jeff.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that-this video will end up being a bit of a swan song for 2022, sadly... I have to get surgery, and though overall I'm feeling a bit better than summer, I've had complications enough that I have to get a pretty major surgery in a week that'll knock me out until next year :( But hopefully after I recover, I'll be a lot better off! Maybe I'll be able to feel 100% again, it's been a while since I was feeling my best.
@RedFalcon696
@RedFalcon696 Жыл бұрын
​@@JeffGeerling Really hope you feel better soon and that the surgery helps. You have done amazing work, and we all appreciate what you do. In fact, you inspired me to setup a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 and I/O Board with native-boot NVMe, which is what I am writing this message to you on right now. :) Thank you for all that you do Jeff, you have made the world a better place and are an inspiration to all!
@daveamies5031
@daveamies5031 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling 🤞🏻that the surgery goes well, hopefully even better than expected 🤞🏻Wishing you can feel 100% again (it's been over 30 years since I had a day without pain so I don't really remember how 100% feels)
@3v068
@3v068 Жыл бұрын
@enrique amaya coming from an atheist, not only does he live you, he loves everyone.
@crunchTwist
@crunchTwist Жыл бұрын
@3V0 person here, who types words that people read when in front of their face. I'm an atheism denier. I don't believe that people don't believe in skyman. You can't prove you exist, so I win. Wish maker-of-video man all the good things and speedy recovery. I like how you speak words out loud and I hear them. Subscribed.
@morosis82
@morosis82 Жыл бұрын
I remember years ago Top Gear did a race between a Prius and an M3. All the M3 had to do was keep up with the Prius, while the Prius thrashed it's way around the track. At the end they measured how much fuel was used and the V8 M3 was significantly more efficient at the speed they were driving around the track. I think the pi is great as a testbed platform, low power edge deployment, etc. But it never really stood any chance when real compute capacity and io connectivity is required.
@hikingpete
@hikingpete Жыл бұрын
That was a great collab. The scripting was fantastic and you guys interacted seamlessly.
@vicmaxabc
@vicmaxabc Жыл бұрын
I love both channels, looking forward to more colabs!
@netnerd9472
@netnerd9472 Жыл бұрын
Jeff nicking the server at the end is the cherry on the top. Great video guys, I enjoy both of your channels :)
@sshogo64
@sshogo64 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome vid guys! Not only did i learn new stuff, I couldn't be but happy to see you both school us on a badass project. One of the best vids I watched coming from your end. Thank you both!
@rafaelsuarez7415
@rafaelsuarez7415 Жыл бұрын
Owesome ! Thanks to both. Hope your getting beter Jef ,
@nlcirque
@nlcirque Жыл бұрын
Great collaboration from 2 of my favorite tech channels.
@esra_erimez
@esra_erimez Жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite KZfaqrs! I'm glad to see what Patrick's studio looks like!
@wolvenar
@wolvenar Жыл бұрын
Great job with this video. A lot of information packed in here to work with.
@Akshun82
@Akshun82 Жыл бұрын
Loving the content, good Sir. Definitely the best collab of '22!
@niklasxl
@niklasxl Жыл бұрын
good to see a colab with you and Patrik :D
@n0madfernan257
@n0madfernan257 Жыл бұрын
yes, the collab we never knew we needed. good thing red shirt jeff must be busy somewhere else.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
Just don't watch to the end 🫣
@n0madfernan257
@n0madfernan257 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling i commented before finishing the whole thing... oh no....
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
@@n0madfernan257 We are still trying to find the Ampere server
@n0madfernan257
@n0madfernan257 Жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Hope he appears secretly at your channel and still return it in one piece... and hope red shirt jeff does not use his favorite grinders and whatnots
@m-rtin
@m-rtin Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Jeff, hope to see you guys collab again!
@criticaltinkering
@criticaltinkering Жыл бұрын
You guys are both great! Fun to see you together.
@THEMithrandir09
@THEMithrandir09 Жыл бұрын
We should compare Wh for fixed unit of work. E.g. the same compilation/render and just look at the power consumed to do the work.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
That's what GFLOPs/W and MIPS/W benchmarks represent on a standard scale that should convert to other loads, provided everyone uses the same benchmarks without cheating. Of cause, additional numbers are needed for idle and near idle power consumption.
@lavavex
@lavavex Жыл бұрын
This collab is great! Love it!
@paulussantosociwidjaja4781
@paulussantosociwidjaja4781 Жыл бұрын
This is monstrous. Thank you for the learning, Jeff and Patrick, too! Cheers!
@robvanscheijndel
@robvanscheijndel Жыл бұрын
I like those collaborations, it gives more insights and different views on the topics we love.
@petermuller608
@petermuller608 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Will love a follow up on the LTT screw driver even more!
@blakeseufert7340
@blakeseufert7340 Жыл бұрын
Serve the "large scale, high performance data center" home. Great collab guys.
@spyrule
@spyrule Жыл бұрын
Have been a fan of STH for almost 10 years now... Has always been a great website, and the forum is great as well. The hardware sale section is an amazing place to find deals on server grade hardware that is coming out of production if your looking to setup a good home server cluster.
@freeeflyer
@freeeflyer Жыл бұрын
I just made the connexion between you and the fantastic ansible roles everyone use.. THANKS A LOT FOR THAT !
@Daggenthal
@Daggenthal Жыл бұрын
I seriously love ARM so much, so this got me really excited!! Great video :D I've waited years and years for someone to fully push out ARM to the mainstream desktop for "regular" consumer usage, and while the Pi's + others are capable, nothing was ever the same as your usual x86-64 for typical tasks / light gaming. Well, when Apple announced their M series of chips, I got excited and purchased one right away after reviews! Been happily using my M1 Max as a daily driver, all because I love ARM and really want to support it as much as I can, even if it's coming from Apple, who doesn't truly *need* the money but ended up making a product that I had been looking for for quite some time. I'm just happy that a major company took the plunge, and I'm happily following suit. Maybe someday we'll all be on ARM!
@lordjaashin
@lordjaashin Жыл бұрын
not for much longer. the way arm is going it is killing itself by spitting in its customers face by forcing major companies to use its gpu along with its cpu. after this many companies are looking at risc v. hopefully, risc v takes off as it is open source
@jnharton
@jnharton Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, afaik, the big selling point of ARM cpu designs was in power savings not so much raw performance. -- Even if a particular design/SoC performed at a mere fraction(say 50%) of an Intel x86/x86-64 system the former would kill in terms of power savings. // Things have improved a lot and now that even Intel chips are SoC-like...
@vikingforties
@vikingforties Жыл бұрын
@@jnharton Performance as well. At the socket level Ampere M128-30 matches or exceeds top bin Epyc Milan for Data Centre workloads whilst burning less energy. Anandtech and STH have published stats.
@jnharton
@jnharton Жыл бұрын
@@vikingforties I was really talking about the broader history and not so much the current state of affairs. Also, given that x86 development was, for a long time, presumably based on single core, single thread performance and ARM is a relatively new architecture...
@vikingforties
@vikingforties Жыл бұрын
@@jnharton Ahh. got you. I take your point.
@Smytjf11
@Smytjf11 Жыл бұрын
Hey, this is great! Y'all make great crossovers.
@sherrilltechnology
@sherrilltechnology Жыл бұрын
Great video and I love the direction that ARM is going!!
@peterluo1776
@peterluo1776 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jeff 👍👍 I might pick few tips to build my first PI cluster.
@Dygear
@Dygear Жыл бұрын
x86 servers also have a mechanism for attesting the boot process that simply doesn't work right now with an arm server.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
You mean the lockdown to Microsoft signed boot images?
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I cannot believe how compact the STH studio is, it really stood out when both were in there
@ShinyTechThings
@ShinyTechThings Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to get a review sample of a ARM based server for a while and it's great to see this one here!
@nathanh3538
@nathanh3538 Жыл бұрын
both of these guys are in their element. I can see their enthusiasm and excitement
@NoobHuman
@NoobHuman Жыл бұрын
Woah, I'm so interested to see the results!
@thatLion01
@thatLion01 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing with Patrick. Thank you both
@jantoniotorre
@jantoniotorre Жыл бұрын
Seeing a video with this two makes me very happy, great guys
@DinosGaming
@DinosGaming Жыл бұрын
love the collaboration, hope u doing well man. love the videos
@Kowanza
@Kowanza Жыл бұрын
18:09 You should try out Armbian. Their support of older arm boards is phenomenal. My tiny cluster of 4 Orange Pi pc's form ~2015 is still running perfectly with kernel 5.15 thanks to Armbian.
@DrTune
@DrTune Жыл бұрын
seconded, armbian is pretty great
@vidyajamesu
@vidyajamesu Жыл бұрын
I love the labels on your fan drawers.
@Aviatorpaal
@Aviatorpaal Жыл бұрын
I loved the transition you made to the STH clip :D
@markhuebner7580
@markhuebner7580 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks man!
@BennyTygohome
@BennyTygohome Жыл бұрын
I wish Patrick greeted Jeffrey in third person "This is Patrick"
@ShadeAssault
@ShadeAssault Жыл бұрын
I love the collab with STH! Keep up the great content! I have been running my own "server" (TS3) since the early 2010's. Never realized that was homelab-ish territory. Now I run a bunch of servers off of RasPi's, Local PC's, and a NAS. Totally Cosplaying as a SysAdmin. Want to do more in the future and you are helping me do that!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 11 ай бұрын
can you imagine a raspberry pi with that monster 128 core arm processor in it?🤣
@DavidVincentSSM
@DavidVincentSSM Жыл бұрын
love love love the collab!! More please!
@g.s.3389
@g.s.3389 Жыл бұрын
in case you think of using one of them for virtualization it would be nice to have the performance per core. that is because next year there will be a shift in licencing from cpu to core (read VMware here).
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
@Greyson Sounds like a reason to use qemu.
@g.s.3389
@g.s.3389 Жыл бұрын
@Greyson thanks for the comment, yes but, if you own a million dollar company you want to stay on the safe side and then you buy support from the vendor (read RedHat or Suse). if you get a problem installing a SW (SAP, Dynamics, VDI) and you have problems to whom are you asking, do you have enough people in IT to go through the opensource code and find a solution.... Being technology enthusiastic, having an home lab is completely different in managing company/corporate infrastructure, you want reliability and support. if you look around many applications are born as opensource but there is always a "pro" version, for the support.
@joee7452
@joee7452 Жыл бұрын
@@g.s.3389 Just to be picky, you miss stated your example. RedHat and Suse are opensource. Opensource and free are not the same. I get what you mean though. I have 2 sides in my DC. The internal side runs on things like docker, haproxy, a lot of Ubuntu for simplicity. The client side runs on kubernetes (openshift), F5, and RedHat for added support. I have no issues supporting either, but when you are dealing with things in the enterprise, they want to have a company support to be able to contact for some types of things.
@joee7452
@joee7452 Жыл бұрын
@@skechergn It depends on the pricing. If the core pricing ends up equaling what the CPU pricing would be at a certain point, it is just targeting the new processor setups. There is a large difference in the amount of vms you can run on 24 cores/512GB ram and 140 cores/2TB ram. Especially when you start looking at containers on VMs on a hypervisor. Containerization is really hammering VM virtualization. I have a pair of IBM power servers (for redundancy) running Openshift. It's running the same workload that use to sit on a 12 system ESXi cluster because of the number of different VMs it needed and the number of servers to make it n+1 for the hardware. Those 2 power servers still have plenty of resources to add a ton of additional containers to it before it would even comes close to high utilization on one node in a failed scenario. I can see why VMware would need to go to the core level overall to not only make more money on the higher end server chips but also allow them to be price competitive on smaller core numbers. If the price per CPU is based around say what will now cost for 40 or 64 more cores, then if you come in needing 24 or 36 cores, then it would be cheaper then the old CPU cost.
@joee7452
@joee7452 Жыл бұрын
@@skechergn Your still assuming it will be a higher (then inflation) cost with the new licensing. We can't say it will or won't until we see it put in place across the board. It could be a way to enable charging more across the board and it wouldn't surprise me. But it could also be a way to make the costs more cost effective also. If it becomes cheaper on the lower end and more expensive on the higher end, then they are really just trying to be cost effective against competition. Again, I am not saying it will work out that way, I am just saying we are assuming that it will raise prices (beyond inflation) for customers without any evidence yet.
@IngwiePhoenix
@IngwiePhoenix Жыл бұрын
I was in the market for an ARM VPS but couldn't find any good ones. Honestly I am so ready for ARM to just take over the server space more and more - its super efficient, less cluttered than x86 and has some great nicities. Unfortunately, software support is still a little hit or miss - especially when talking about Phones and Tablets where SystemReady isn't implemented properly - be it on purpose or not. Honestly I'd love to play around with one of those! These ARM servers are awesome as heck! ^_^
@AdithaJayasuriya
@AdithaJayasuriya Жыл бұрын
Try Oracle. They give 4 core ARM Amperes for free.
@morosis82
@morosis82 Жыл бұрын
AWS EC2 m6g, uses AWS graviton.
@GustavoNoronha
@GustavoNoronha Жыл бұрын
I'm using Graviton, as Arm 64 makes sense to match my M1 Max laptop. However, AMD Milan is way more efficient than any Arm server chip up to this point, you don't get much in terms of efficiency if you are on AMD, right now.
@morosis82
@morosis82 Жыл бұрын
@@GustavoNoronha Epyc is crazy, it's amazing how they just leapfrogged everyone else.
@stefsmurf
@stefsmurf Жыл бұрын
@IngwiePhoenix Did you not pay attention? Literally said in the video 16:28 that ARM isn't inherently more efficient than x86. In fact, the lack of libraries and application support can make it LESS efficient. What apple did with the M1 came down to building an ARM chip made specifically for OS X, down to the point where it theoretically should be good for gaming, but isn't since apple doesn't put as much thought or support behind it. Also, apple decided efficiency at all costs, to the point where the damn thing throttles on certain tasks to keep the battery life well and the cpu cool.
@i_Kruti
@i_Kruti Жыл бұрын
13:40 Love to see JEFF hosting in STH's new studio.....🤩🥰😍😘🥳
@lateral1385
@lateral1385 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the manual captions and timestamps.
@GeoffSeeley
@GeoffSeeley Жыл бұрын
Hey it's Patrick STH! He always has the coolest and latest "toys" to play with. Nice comparison guys!
@jeffyvilcandelario8872
@jeffyvilcandelario8872 Жыл бұрын
One of the best collab intros i have watched so far... :)
@videobenny3
@videobenny3 Жыл бұрын
Love Love LOVE my MicroCenter in St Louis Park. Excellent sponsorship! Beats the fiasco of Kamikoto knives and Scottish Titles (what a scam those were).
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын
Have you been served?...in the home?
@TankR
@TankR Жыл бұрын
RE: first bit about 24 RPi cores vs 24 x86_64 cores. A, say, 1GHz ARM and 1GHz x86 are VERY different. ARM will always win on the power consumption front, but even if using a reduced instruction set(IIRC) the x86 will walk all over an ARM twice before it even realizes what happened, and a few more times before it hits the ground. Yes, application matters. Programming matters. Auxiliary processing load matters. But straight clock for clock ARM and x86 are not comparable, its x86 on top all day long. You cannot replace a x86 desktop with an ARM and expect the same performance. But that was never what they were supposed to do, its not their design case. Remember, the right tool for the right application ;)
@chrisdixon5241
@chrisdixon5241 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Jeff! I was already impressed by your 6-pack Pi. Time for a new T-shirt, "My other computer is a 128 core Ampere"? :)
@leadfarmer5563
@leadfarmer5563 Жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite channels in one video. This awesome!!
@jincyquones
@jincyquones Жыл бұрын
Oracle Cloud has some really generous "always free" quotas for VMs on their Ampere machines.
@vikingforties
@vikingforties Жыл бұрын
Search for "OCI Ampere A1". 4 vCPUs, 24GB RAM, multiple distros, adequate storage and lots of regions. What's not to like?
@abx42
@abx42 Жыл бұрын
Maker center does that bring me back reminds me of my youth going to radio shack to pick up components to put a well anything together.
@jojobobbubble5688
@jojobobbubble5688 Жыл бұрын
Intro: I love that Pi cluster box (sees price tag) Sees Galaxy Quest: Classy throw back my friend Blue Shirt Jeff whose a spinoff of "Tim the Toolman: PC Edition" when? :Edit: Sees server "Drools" I have no idea what I'd use this for but I want it.
@movax20h
@movax20h Жыл бұрын
What. CM4 modules cost now 165$. This is insane. Great video Jeff. Also, I am bit on the edge about getting DeskPi Super6C. It only has 2x1Gbit uplinks, and even utilising two of them is tricky due to the type of switch chip used. If it would had 10Gbps, or maybe even 2.5Gbps, it would be an interesting option. Also lack of some BMC to access serial console and power state of CMs is not great. They could have added a small stm32 micro with a 100Mbps ethernet to just do some telnet to interact with few things on board and serial ports, and maybe small http server to view some minimal metrics, it would be useful. And where is RTC battery. I can live without it probably for cluster setup where I would be using NTP, but come on.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
I think the Turing Pi 2 is probably the more flexible option, and hopefully their production run will get underway soon (they just said they're tooling the line for a first 1,000 unit run).
@mindtreat
@mindtreat Жыл бұрын
Brothers in ARM's
@dolex161
@dolex161 Жыл бұрын
i was waiting for this video :) im so excited for all the amazon stuff to trickle into our home labs!! Pat and Jeffy G!!! what a team combo!!
@ameno9653
@ameno9653 Жыл бұрын
Great job with this video
@jonathanmyers8477
@jonathanmyers8477 Жыл бұрын
By Grabthar's Hammer...Cool Content!
@shangtsung2450
@shangtsung2450 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video, Jeff! I would like to inquire, if there are any current alternatives to RPi that are capable of running Xen?
@MaidLucy
@MaidLucy Жыл бұрын
That was a great collab!
@JimmytheCow2000
@JimmytheCow2000 Жыл бұрын
The subtitles are the best. "red shirt jeff acts suspicious" hahah love it!
@garyhuntress6871
@garyhuntress6871 Жыл бұрын
Two guys that I don't watch at 2X speed. Great pairing, great content!!
@willfancher9775
@willfancher9775 Жыл бұрын
Does the Super6c require all 6 compute modules to be installed, or can you have some unpopulated without damaging anything?
@jpconstantineau
@jpconstantineau Жыл бұрын
I have 5 pi in mine... Works fine. I can't wait to find one more to fill it up. Note that only the first one has extra ports...
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
^ This
@jgurtz
@jgurtz Жыл бұрын
Wow, two of my favorite tech chans together, awesome!
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin Жыл бұрын
That's some pretty crazy stuff! I have a couple Raspberry Pi 3s running Stretch. They weren't cutting it for me so I just decided to drop $$$ for an Apple M1 Mac Mini with the 16GB of RAM and base everything else. External SSD is a lot cheaper although slower. The plan is to run it headless with a direct 1GB/s Ether connect to my router which goes to my cable modem. The router gives my house WiFi. It's kinda old, but I'm not sure what to update it with yet. That's my lazy solution to a local server. It's double plus cool to see that there are still hobbyists out there building custom computers. It's like the 1970s with 2020s tech. Good stuff.
@yalopov
@yalopov Жыл бұрын
Those linpack benchmark results were super interesting, didn't know m1 max chip was that far ahead. I wonder how long will it take for competitors building arm64 processors to catch up
@vikingforties
@vikingforties Жыл бұрын
Comparing different things here. An M1 client CPU to CPUs designed to operate in a DC (e.g. Ampere Altra & Graviton). Data Centre and cloud workloads tend to force the economics for your compute & I/O efficiency per rack of servers and storage. M1 still needs a focus on per core performance because there's way more single threaded stuff that it has to deal with.
@autohmae
@autohmae Жыл бұрын
An other indicator how much 'node size' matters. A they mentioned in the video: the M1 uses a newer TSMC process.
@douggale5962
@douggale5962 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that I/O bandwidth is next to nothing on the PI and the real server probably has excessive lanes. Don't feel bad though, even desktops have crippled I/O compared to what they should have.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like my desktop Ryzen CPU gets crippled by x1 and x4 PCIe 3.0 slots even though the CPU has plentiful PCIe 4.0 available :(
@kinto92
@kinto92 Жыл бұрын
Yay! Both of my favorite channels!
@allezvenga7617
@allezvenga7617 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your sharing
@BraxtonMeyer
@BraxtonMeyer Жыл бұрын
why doesn't patrick have more questions about how you got into his recording studio? /s
@ServeTheHomeVideo
@ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын
Jeff is always welcome.
@paullandry6573
@paullandry6573 Жыл бұрын
What a savings.... LOL love it! Just bought the motherboard and trying to get the CPUs
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
I've had an order in with DigiKey for a month or so... hopefully they come through!
@MatthiasDuyck
@MatthiasDuyck Жыл бұрын
Loved this reference
@TheOnewithforce
@TheOnewithforce Жыл бұрын
Watching both channels, always useful in a different areas. Would enjoy a further cooperation with Patrick. Well done.
@JarredSutherland
@JarredSutherland Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I really do hope that the Pi is available soon. I would love to put the CM to use.
@ericblenner-hassett3945
@ericblenner-hassett3945 Жыл бұрын
Let us hope Red Shirt Jeff does not use an angle grinder for that end clip....
@cvmagic404
@cvmagic404 Жыл бұрын
What really concerns me, the realization that red shirt Jeff is not confined to the Geerling basement. We don't need that harbinger of chaos roaming free to spread this madness!
@jeffsadowski
@jeffsadowski Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Major improvement.
@cosput
@cosput Жыл бұрын
Very cool, great video
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 Жыл бұрын
So I really enjoy the large box labeled "Only Fans" 🤣. Also it's pretty surprising your efficiency went up when overclocking, apparently the opposite usually happens on desktop pc's. Wonder if that means there's more headroom in the silicon?
@chrisguli2865
@chrisguli2865 Жыл бұрын
Naked processor of the day, for only $20/month.😂😂
@wotsac
@wotsac Жыл бұрын
Microcenter is legit. I stopped in for the first time in ages this summer. Not only did they HAVE the 8gb Pi4, it was on sale for $60.
@Slada1
@Slada1 Жыл бұрын
rpi available and on sale, wow
@chrisguli2865
@chrisguli2865 Жыл бұрын
Nice benchmark comp Jeff! Rasp Pi's have become like gold now - amazing. That ARM system is a beast. He who dies with the most teraflops, wins!😂😂
@Hreimr
@Hreimr Жыл бұрын
Such an awesome collab :)
@Atabascael
@Atabascael Жыл бұрын
11:30 - seems jeff is into only fans :D
@vaisakhkm783
@vaisakhkm783 Жыл бұрын
🤣 ikr
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 Жыл бұрын
At 0:30 , 3960x 24-core is old technology. A modern 16-core Ryzen 7950x offers greater performance, for just $550 USD.
@ReinaldoRauch
@ReinaldoRauch Жыл бұрын
11:30 the only name possible for a box of fans
@skywalkerv1
@skywalkerv1 Жыл бұрын
I miss Micro Center :( such a awesome place! Great Video :)
@zambonidriver42
@zambonidriver42 Жыл бұрын
Jeffy G?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling Жыл бұрын
Apparently I'm Jeffy G and Jeff from Craft Computing is Crafty Jeff XD
@zambonidriver42
@zambonidriver42 Жыл бұрын
That means you’re ….not crafty. 😗
@cdl0
@cdl0 Жыл бұрын
Atlas might not be the best blas library. There are others which may give significantly better performance, including openblas and the libraries bundled with official arm development compiler suite. You can also usually win a bit more performance by experimenting with the relevant compiler flags.
@jnharton
@jnharton Жыл бұрын
If the point is /benchmarking/, then you use the same program on the different hardware configurations because you want a comparative sense for which is better. Otherwise you use whatever can perform /best/ on the hardware you have, as you are suggesting.
@cdl0
@cdl0 Жыл бұрын
@@jnharton The linpack test does use the same source code on each system. Blas is a standard library, so does the same thing on every system. Clearly, you need to compile and link the code in the way that gives the best performance for the target hardware.
@christophervankammen8340
@christophervankammen8340 Жыл бұрын
There is just something about these videos I can't say how fun they are to watch and easy to listen to in the background! (Its really the small things about these videos....A.K.A Red shirt Jeff additions that don't need to be there but really leave you laughing all the way to the end :) KEEP IT GOING @Jeff Geerling
@gamingonthespectrum
@gamingonthespectrum Жыл бұрын
I would really like to see you cluster multiple of these together, imagine the power of 4-8 of these
@jackyli6716
@jackyli6716 Жыл бұрын
That's really cool ! bro, have a nice day!
@grtitann7425
@grtitann7425 Жыл бұрын
Besides of being an incredible interesting subject, i love how you pulled a page out of the influencers that contaminate KZfaq and the media with Nvidia GPUs visible just because (LTT, TechSpot and others) with your strategic placement of AMD CPUs. Here is a like going your way!
@silenthill4
@silenthill4 Жыл бұрын
Might be useful if raspberry pis were actually obtainable one of these years
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