Bad Things should be on C I think, because they have positive side to increased productivity

fear factor building is only good when there is resources nearby, it also increase food production

I get your point about bad fear. It's really hard to rank tbh, I use this building pretty much every game, BUT I replace it by good fear factor later on. I start building bad fear factor in the mid-game, once my production and towers/walls are set(my population is around 200 there), to get a limitied period of time in which I can prepare for war. This also is necessary to keep food production high since I'd rather invest 60 people in stone/iron farms than in food. Whenever you want to flip economy into war, this might be your option. The only problem about this in my opinion is, you're vulnerable to attacks. Even if you invest all units in defending, you still got that -25%. Against AI I'd recommend this method, online I'd prefer using good fear factor. So I'd rank bad/good fear factor itself on S, but situational and depending on your playstyle

How you can place good factor in A (its D or F) and bad factor in D, rly bad factor is S tier in all scenarios. When you chose play europe army its OP, coze multiply resources you gather. If you play arabian you need only -1 FF to get bonuses from wood/food. Also you can easy use FF + and - in peace time multiplayer games, you start negative fear factor and before end you delete all stuff and replace with good factor so you nearly double production in peace time and after you get +50% boost for your army. Gallows 50g, deleted you get i think 20-25g, small flower 30g.

bad fear factor is an easy S tier, doesnt cost much, boosts your economy insanely and the negative bonus is easy to deal with

gold needed

Not enoug Wood m'lord

All good but tbh i so t understand why pwople pewfwr thia over sh2 and legends imo they are kinda better

I read this with the typical voice

Not enough workers are available to run this building

Yeah it's probably just me having such a bad experience with bad fear factor lol. Oh well that's a misjudge by me

Ya i tottaly agree, for negative factor is A+ tier, becouse your economy boost is waaay more better than your -25% weakness troop. for example: from 2 piles of wheat you can do 36 breads, instead of 16. this is ridiculous

Spires of inspiration

​@@vojnax1885 Actually 2 piles of wheat with maximum negative fear factor would give u 24 bread,because each wheat is 12 bread with that,not 18 lol.I DO get what u were trying to say tho:They deliver 3 wheat every time instead of 2.And with a maximum positive fear factor u'd get 1 wheat every time,which would be a pathetic 4 bread XD.Positive fear factor is literally useless I can't believe this idiot ACTUALLY put it in a tier,because in my opinion negative and positive should switch tiers XD.This is absolutely ridiculous lol

@@Ugh718 from 2 wheat you get 3 flours,from one flour you get 12 breads, where is mistake? but my english of course :D I used this sample because there you can best to see the differece, the 150% is like domino, you can use it on maps where is no oasis and you must live only with trade

And its *_METAL_* ARMOR AT THAT LOL

flaming arrows dont do extra damage?

@@TheActionTourist Too bad no, it won't melt enemy armor and only giving flaming effect that can trigger any pitch trap

@@hartantoanggoro Years wasted of spamming braziers damn good to know

@@TheActionTourist this feels like i jsut got told santa isnt real lmao

Omg 12 years of playing this game and i didnt know this

That might be cool yeah!

Udwin has made that lol

But not a Tierlist he only showed all castle on his secondchannel and on his main (german) he telled a bit about each one

@@xjoachimx1947 really? nice info, thanks

@@Jefflenious dew it

Mission 80 without Marketplace was done by HandofBloods Second Channel HandofUncut

@@user-fn6mu1gw6t also the last mission on the 2nd crusade

@@meikl777 which... Is Mission 80

beat mission 80 with -5 fear factor

Well... When they are available they're really good though. I think the main reason why most maps don't allow for them is because hunters are by far the best civilians that have a military application. Like, Woodcutters can fight back a little and I think they even beat slaves in melee, but hunters are straight-up archers who you don't have to pay or supply weapons for, and they'll stroll about the map and shoot game, rabbits and any enemy unit they come across. The reason why so few maps actually have them is that they can mess with the balancing.

​@@darthplagueis13 "Like, Woodcutters can fight back a little and I think they even beat slaves in melee"I actually tested the woodcutters in a custom map by saving it and then playing it and they can actually 1v1 a SPEARMAN,not only a slave(if at full health of course).They can kill 1.25 spearmen(aka they'll kill 1 spearman and then take away 25% of the next spearman's health,if fought 1v1.Otherwise they're fucked lol). Also fun fact:Tanners,blacksmiths and armorers can ALSO fight against enemies in melee combat,aswell as the ox tethers,so woodcutters are not the only units aside from hunters that can fight.The jester can also fight but I wouldn't really call what he does"fighting",sooo,yeah lol:He more like mocks the enemy and inflicts psychological damage on them XD

yea ez S+, imagine blocking out enemy AI gate with these bois lmaoo

though good things allow you to ditch food entirely if you build a cathedral and church while bad things make you very dependent on farmland

Yeah true, most of my lists are based on vanilla though

Problem with the apothecaries is you need to build 3-4 of them just for them to be anywhere near effective.

@@stpvtrick5943 as long as you bring your weakened troops close they really rock!

Also protect food

Oh yeah I believe this is more accurate too, ale production buildings are not that good but Inns are the broken part

Actually if u set ur granary to no rations ur people will starve to death and will need to constantly be replaced.That's why u'll constantly see the no labor signs above buildings(the red circle with a line in the middle of it):Because those workers literally STARVED to death,so please for the love of god set it to full rations and produce food XD

@@Ugh718 They will starve to death, but it takes them so long even 324 people aren't enough to slow down the eco.

@@Ugh718 For real? I played last week and I made my population drunk and bribed them because I had no access to grassland and I didn't want to buy food all the time, so I set no rations. I have to try it again and see for myself. I also played on UCP.

@@Ugh718 funny that a Soviet communist would wish to feed the population to not starve the whole population

Lmao so do i

Thanks, will do!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yeah I remember that, not sure if it still works on 1.41 though

@@Jefflenious It does

How does this work?

@@Jefflenious I play on 1.1 lol

Came to the comment section precisely for this^^.

UCP stands for?

@@rezaalan3991 ultimate crusader patch :)

@@Beowulf-eg2li no its unofficial crusader patch.. 😉

So much this. Who needs food in first place if you can use beer to replace this mechanic for much, much less labor on maps where you have very little to no farmland.

​@@thebadman6169 BUT u can sell the bread that u get for much more than what ale is worth,so its definitely a lot more worth it imo.+U can regulate between no rations and double rations,tho I always tend to keep it at full rations,as they'll either die of starvation or being too fat otherwise(the peasants and workers).Also the fact that with maximum negative fear factor it is SO much more lucrative and efficient to produce bread rather than ale,as instead of 2 wheat being delivered to ur stockpile every time on neutral fear factor,u get 3,and that 3 wheat is then turned into 3 flour as opposed to 2,and those 3 flours are then turned into 36 bread(3x12)as opposed to 16(2x8)with regular fear factor,so it is WAAY more lucrative imo lol.And that's only 1 delivery:They deliver a total of 12 times from a single farm(I've tested this myself if u don't believe me lol),so that's a total of 36 wheat=36 flour=432 bread,and on normal fear factor its only 24 wheat=24 flour=192 bread. So in short:Wheat production is WAY better than ale production,because 432 bread is a LOT more expensive than a bunch of ale lol.50 bread is 200 gold,and 5 ale is 100 gold,so:U do the math lol. Edit:My mistake:5 ale is 50 gold when sold,so even LESS lol.Literally 12 bread(a single flour that a baker turned into bread in his bakery at maximum negative fear factor)is 5 ale,and it is MUCH easier to get 1 flour than 1 hop(the raw material needed to produce ale)lol

​@@Ugh718you can make the population insanely high with alcohol, bread eventually can't feed anymore people as the pathway gets to long, also you can buy the ale if you don't have place for pruduction and still get a constant +8 as barely any is used. It also allows you to set food on reduced rations if you wanna still take taxes which makes it easily possible to get apples cheese and bread in the granary for a nice variety of food bonus

​@@Halimat2.0 I have actually found something out in the meantime since 2 years ago:You can actually have INFINITE workers in a building. How?Well I think Jefflenious did a video on this but I'll explain it anyways:Hit the snooze button on a building(so fire workers),pause,hit it again while the game is paused,unpause. This will cause 2 workers to go to that building(s). Rinse and repeat as much as you like. You can actually use this trick to abuse the💩out of apple farms:Just put a granary next to one,do the pause-unpause glitch,and voila:Infinite apples XD(works ideally with 4 apple farms since you'll have one active for every season:Spring,summer,autumn and winter. MUAHAHAHAHA)

@@Ugh718 that is very funny

Thanks, will do!

That's what I said when I saw he ranked food above ale and hops. Skipping food production gives such a strong early advantage to the game.

I think it's 7 per farm I'm not 100% sure but that's what I usually go for on mission 80

Unofficial Crusader Patch link here: github.com/UnofficialCrusaderPatch/UnofficialCrusaderPatch/releases It's one of the many features

idk I could be wrong on that one, but every time I tried using it felt like they're not doing anything

@@Jefflenious I know that they say, they have an extra items, so usually you can get some extra stones, or something. Try to click on them to get info and look to stockpile when they come to it.

Try playing missions (specially ones with few resources) with -5 fear factor, it makes your castle so efficient at producing stuff, making the mission much easier.

fear factor makes big big money but it has the problem of troops. peasant population growth is too low to use that massive money to recruit. and that's aside from their battle prowess. it's hypocritical coming from me, using fear factor most often, but money doesn't always win games. you need troops too

Yeah you can!

By balista do you mean crossbow? If that's what you meant I think crossbows are better out of these 3 I'm not sure though (Since I never thought about that lol) Leather armor is a nice choice for making gold though

@@Jefflenious thank you Master

yASS+

Yeah Stockpile is on "required" tier tbh

The stockpile is full me lord

3 of my top 5 videos are tier lists, it is real indeed

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@@Jefflenious thank you

Interesting.I didn't know that actually.But it always seems to me that stone is way more efficient lol. Also:Is this the same for maximum negative fear factor?Because then they put a lot more stone and iron into the stockpile as opposed to regular fear factor,so it might not be valid for that.Just a heads up lol

There really isn't a need to change the negative to a positive. You'll have a 500 unit army that can simply bulldoze them. Pikemen are the best to go for, since 1 iron = 2 shields (and you can sell them until ready to attack for great gold even if buying iron). Any enemy will easily fall when you hit them with 23 catapults at once and them move 200 archer into range followed by 150 pikemen. The only downside is when you have to defend before you can ramp up your bow production.

Yes..agree on all and u r not alone 😅

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My pleasure 😊

Yeah true, it was so useless UCP had to buff it lmao