Here's Cause Of Miami Condo Collapse Champlain Condo Towers, Surfside

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In this video, your host Jeff Ostroff reconstructs a precise timeline of events in the hours leading up to the Miami Condo collapse and examines the evidence to offer you our root cause and failure analysis to determine how the Champlain Towers South Condo building collapsed on Jun 24, 2021.
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This condo collapse analysis pulls in statements made by witnesses, and also witness videos and security camera videos which captured the condo building collapse from around the property and some video just moments before the now infamous Miami Condo Collapse.
The Champlain Towers South condo complex collapse was located at 8777 Collins Ave. in Surfside, FL, which is just north of Miami beach.
⏱ Table of Contents Surfside Condo Collapse (Click on timestamps to jump to a chapter) ⏱
0:00 Introduction to Champlain Towers South Condo, Buildings
2:10 36 hours before condo collapse, pool inspection photos, cracked concrete
2:50 Spalling on concrete beams over pool equipment room
4:20 Water leaking on pool equipment room floor before condo collapse
5:45 Standing water in garage by space #78
6:58 Analysis: Tourist video of garage damage just before building collapse
8:55 Witness accounts of pool deck collapsing like sink hole
10:16 Analysis of security camera video of condo building collapse
14:14 Examining the collapsed pool deck for clues, concrete degradation
19:00 Analysis of column thickness, concrete stripped cleanly off rebar
20:50 Did wider columns on front building prevent it from collapsing?
22:45 Which columns failed and collapsed first?
26:55 Famous 2018 engineering report give insight on root cause for collapse
28:28 Our theory of failure mode for building collapse
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@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
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@staciasmith5162
@staciasmith5162 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi, there's a posting by Building Integrity who obtained the plans, the provenance of the buildings and the changes in the plans of the building. There's a reason why that building did what it did.🤬
@illuminatedrose
@illuminatedrose 2 жыл бұрын
Why would people like this comment. Jeff lost a lot of validity in my mind with that childish comment, like don't question me or anything. L
@chrisb5459
@chrisb5459 2 жыл бұрын
@@staciasmith5162 Id say it was the controlled demolition that collapsed the building.... one can clearly see the flashes from the explosives in the video (not this video) ... I saw a controlled demolition......question is what or who was in the building ..... or was it an insurance job because of the deteriorating 🤔
@goygoyim6443
@goygoyim6443 2 жыл бұрын
You are totally wrong.. it was a controlled demolition.. that is why they took down the last part with explosives that just so happened to fall on to the other rubble piles... so that it contaminated the site and can excuse any reason for explosives to be found in the rubble... it was a solid concrete foundation.. buildings do not collapse on themselves shillberg..
@Kneumann1991
@Kneumann1991 2 жыл бұрын
The momentum of a building smashing down on a pool deck would force the lower pillars through it. So there where actually 5 sections. The pillars between 77 and 27 where the first two to buckle towards the ramp. This caused a weight shift towards the pool deck. Stress becomes to much for the pillars between 77/76 and 27/28 the buckle towards pool deck collapsing portion of the pool deck. At this point the buildings weight buckles 79s and 25s pillars which causes the first section to collapse. As the bottom of the first floor reaches the ground the debris pushes outwards into pillars 88 and 14 causing them to buckle outward towards the ramp and begins second part of the building collapse. It does the same thing to the pillars between 91 and 13 which causes the third part of the building to fall. As the momentum of the first section builds up falling towards the ground. When it hits the ground it "punches" down on the remaining pool deck forcing the pillars below to be driven up through the deck due to the force of the hit. Section one also damaged the pillars left and right of 23. When the first three sections are done falling there is only a handful of pillars holding section 4. Being that pillars around 23 are buckled the weight shifts forwards towards the buckled pillars and sinks downward on 23 causing the 4th section to shift and collapse inwards. Uhm.. great video! .. went off on that a little there but you know how it is when the mind starts doing its thing.
@rogerpunk8132
@rogerpunk8132 2 жыл бұрын
I live just blocks away from this building. In all of my years living here Id walk by this building and make the comment that one day I wanted to live there. I was fascinated by the brown color and good looks of this building. This is a perfect example to not be fooled by appearances.
@CarolReidCA
@CarolReidCA 2 жыл бұрын
Don't just look at the pretty paint job! It was a very pretty building, just not structurally sound & "fixes" & "upgrades" seemed to make it worse. Very sad.
@tanyarodriguez157
@tanyarodriguez157 2 жыл бұрын
This is so scary, I had been thinking the same thing the last few days, and and this happened 😳 Looks can be VERY deceiving. Like it says in the Bible, we shall know people by their fruits... So in a building, we literally will have to look into infrastructure!
@kathleendestefano5577
@kathleendestefano5577 2 жыл бұрын
God bless the missing.😢
@natashahilliard9596
@natashahilliard9596 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God you didn't move here wow been so upset for all involved and their families kids animals etc prayers to all
@scasey1960
@scasey1960 2 жыл бұрын
It’s was a beautiful building inside. All Miami buildings are suspect. Why is this situation unique. The failure was a managerial failure & appears completely avoidable.
@joshuashires
@joshuashires 2 жыл бұрын
Depressing that we get great reporting from KZfaqrs vs a conglomerate news outlet these days. Super interesting. Very frustrating that non of this analysis is being reported in the news. Nice work buddy.
@adamarlem9863
@adamarlem9863 2 жыл бұрын
The Wes can only report facts. Most of this is speculation that is good and valid, but not yet proven.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh!
@deek64dk
@deek64dk 2 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY agree💯% Rip~to all the lives lost😢😢😢💔
@codaalive5076
@codaalive5076 2 жыл бұрын
It is frustrating, they could at least hire some architects or other professionals who would comment on things Jeff did. I guess they don't want to disturb families and are protecting those who should already be in prison.
@jmlewis435
@jmlewis435 2 жыл бұрын
YES!! 💯
@P1983sche
@P1983sche 2 жыл бұрын
Viewing that pool equipment room as a pool technician myself. There’s so much wrong with the equipment placement, plumbing and wiring. This should have never passed inspection.
@maxxkatt
@maxxkatt 2 жыл бұрын
they had a history of passing poor inspections via the donation of political funds to the local politicians.
@P1983sche
@P1983sche 2 жыл бұрын
@Nick Moore The spalling too on the concrete. Rebar is under tension and when it has any moisture it just expands right out of concrete. I have actually seen this a few times when people have let their plaster wear away so much that it starts eating into the gunite and exposes small areas of rebar.
@kellikelli4413
@kellikelli4413 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I placed much blame on the city Inspector(s), but of course not the only blame. Whomever designed it and approved it takes blame too.
@brandonox6927
@brandonox6927 2 жыл бұрын
For real
@gracieg7601
@gracieg7601 2 жыл бұрын
My frievd who lives in Florida told me the condos in Florida have a history of being built by crooks and criminals. She said possibly money laundrying. She said she has looked at condos in that area. They all looked too shaky to her. I’m not sure how many she looked at.
@Itraininthebogs
@Itraininthebogs Жыл бұрын
Mind blowing that this could happen, especially in present day, a time when you would assume that after a 100 years of skyscraper engineering, we would have the process mastered. Turns out the people who ran the hotel had years of warning signs and completely ignored them. Can’t blame the the architects and engineers for a complete disregard for safety measures on behalf of the hotel ownership and management.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Yes the idea of lack of maintenance could cause a building to collapse did not enter people's minds
@mjpicard00
@mjpicard00 Жыл бұрын
It wasn´t a hotel... you are woefully uninformed. You can blame the owners of the condos failing to fund the needed repairs. K.I.S.S.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 11 ай бұрын
And yet nobody is going to be prosecuted
@colinc6748
@colinc6748 2 жыл бұрын
In a world where people just throw their opinion around and call it facts. You have no idea how refreshing it is to see someone actually perform a root cause analysis which is the proper response and what every organization does when they have a safety or fatality event. Thank you.
@gman2038
@gman2038 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and he did it all without ever examining a scrap or tittle of the actual building. Amazing indeed.
@johnshaw8228
@johnshaw8228 2 жыл бұрын
These reports are goddamned, big-time lies. The causes of the disaster were willful negligence, indifference to human life, and greed. All this focusing on cracks in concrete is to distract you from the facts. The facts are they knew about it three years ago, and they did nothing about it. Knowing and doing nothing to prevent the catastrophe is criminal. Of course, in this insane country, they will try to sweep that aside and focus on material failures that were already known years in advance. In China those responsible would be imprisoned or executed. In the US they would probably be promoted.
@suzannekyle5268
@suzannekyle5268 2 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me!? This is BS! Do you own research! Why the pancake effect from a damaged sub floor or pool area? It would not straight down!
@rschloch
@rschloch 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what this video is. An entire building collapses on the pool deck and he wonders why the slab pinched through these columns? Check his channel. He might know a few basic engineering concepts, but he seems to be more versed in home renovations.
@oldunclemick
@oldunclemick 2 жыл бұрын
@@rschloch Witness stated the pool deck collapsed before the building fell. It's quoted in this video.
@yenbalagosa6305
@yenbalagosa6305 2 жыл бұрын
I come from a family of architects and engineers I have eyes and ears with verbiage you use in this analysis. Your presentation is very thorough and well-received by many who may not have the eyes and language you use in the structural analysis world. The first time I heard this sad news it caught my full attention as to why this tragedy would happen in a prominent neighborhood where people spend thousands of dollars just to own a glorious view from this spot. If we are to invest into a property like this, it's always worth it to check the blueprints first and history of repair. It's just heartbreaking to think that some people invested to have peace of mind in this property only to be buried alive. Thank you Jeff, seems I found more clarity in your video than on the news. Eternal rest grant to them O'Lord; May the perpetual light shine upon them; May they rest in peace. Amen.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yen!
@herowillrose3198
@herowillrose3198 2 жыл бұрын
First, the salty sea waters, sandy sea, the nature constant violence, columns too tiny to withstand nature, If me, I would not allowed for beginning construction. Columns far too small for these area.
@bojackson3073
@bojackson3073 2 жыл бұрын
This is nothing like 9/11 which fell near gravitational acceleration. Everyone suggesting this was demolition is insulting the victims.
@suekennedy8917
@suekennedy8917 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, very through. Hundreds of feet from the shore.
@luxinterior3085
@luxinterior3085 2 жыл бұрын
I have pictures of the swimming pool still being totally intact and still full of water even after the collapse of the building. This was a terrorist attack. It fell straight down on its own footprint which only demolition can accomplish.
@mangorocks100
@mangorocks100 11 ай бұрын
After I just watched your analysis on the Titan tragedy (which I have special interest in, since I scuba dive) , I found myself stumbling upon this video you had mentioned. It is now just over 2 years since the condominiums collapsed. During the time of the collapse, I was living in the same general area in North Miami. I remember exactly how I felt after it happened - absolutely devastated for the victims, and also terrified for myself. I suffered from recurring nightmares about this exact situation happening to me because of how close it all happened. I felt your video let me understand better what exactly happened and encouraged me to consider more safety measures when living in a multistory building. It would be great if you could create a video about safety living in multistory buildings. Thank you for sharing.
@timwynn6079
@timwynn6079 2 жыл бұрын
this shouldn't have happened, my heart goes out to each and everyone who was perished in this mishap. Thanks for the thoroughly and meticulously made video.
@hsecornel
@hsecornel Жыл бұрын
100th like lol
@LunaNyaVT
@LunaNyaVT 2 жыл бұрын
This hurts to watch as the building collapses, people’s lives gone in a instant. RIP everyone that passed away
@vickiehadd4324
@vickiehadd4324 2 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS ALL THOSE INNOCENT AND UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE SLEEPING IN THEIR BEDS WITHOUT A SINGLE CLUE TO THE DANGER THEY WERE IN.
@andrewnielson8264
@andrewnielson8264 2 жыл бұрын
Really shows how life is just really fast it goes by
@bethbloomer5951
@bethbloomer5951 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of something...
@fraidykat
@fraidykat 2 жыл бұрын
It hurts more knowing this condition was a known condition in 2018 and every single life could have been saved if the building had been repaired or condemned back then.
@LunaNyaVT
@LunaNyaVT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fraidykat yes very very true, makes me wonder what other buildings around that area are like that.
@scottfoundit
@scottfoundit 2 жыл бұрын
I lived close when this was built and my dad would go by and say “that building went up way too fast. Don’t trust it”
@exposingliars9824
@exposingliars9824 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Bet the builders pocketed money and skimped out on many things.
@sarahc8862
@sarahc8862 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I know exactly what you mean my dad is a builder and every time he walks into a business he will tell you what they did wrong, and he would say well that was slapped together 😆
@Ally.81
@Ally.81 2 жыл бұрын
How do this people sleep at night? Playing with hundreds of people's life.... Also the people that didn't take action in 2018 after that raport should go to jail, in my opinion. Maybe this raports should be showed to the residents also not juat the "big wigs" that more often then it should play with people life. Such a shame, may they rest in peace.
@gailcline9341
@gailcline9341 2 жыл бұрын
Probably he was right when it went up so fast, so sad
@gailcline9341
@gailcline9341 2 жыл бұрын
Hope all of their beloved pets got out okay
@christopherbernhardt
@christopherbernhardt 2 жыл бұрын
That "broken beam" hanging off of the roof is called a call box. Notice how it is attached to the gate, and not the ceiling.
@harveyglick6344
@harveyglick6344 2 жыл бұрын
It's a thin metal sign "Tow Away Zone. @ the 8 min 55 second mark.
@Fonzi79
@Fonzi79 2 жыл бұрын
The woman that saw the collapse of the pool deck and cracking and got out of the building ASAP with her kids was EXTREMELY lucky to had seen that at the time cause she was moments from death with her kids..
@standdown4929
@standdown4929 2 жыл бұрын
Mothers intuition at it's best...
@lorabagley8670
@lorabagley8670 2 жыл бұрын
Instinctive observation should have hit the fire alarm let that be a leasson if indoubt ring and raise the alarm to save others
@santarosahero
@santarosahero 2 жыл бұрын
@@standdown4929 have nothing to do with mother’s intuition. She saw and heard cracking on her ceiling wall. She was on first floor and saw it first. Stop making it out to something more than it is. If the walls didn’t crack in front of her face she would be dead right now so enough with the intuition nonsense. She didn’t know what was going to happen. If she did should have pulled the fire alarm and knock on doors to warn others instead of letting others die as sitting ducks.
@gloriarobinson1869
@gloriarobinson1869 2 жыл бұрын
@@santarosahero if she had gone up from her first floor knocking on doors she would be dead too. Probably she had only enough time to get outside her building before the collapse.
@lptvboy
@lptvboy 2 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is She could of pulled the fire alarm otw out and saved most of the people
@susantaylor2533
@susantaylor2533 2 жыл бұрын
You really did a magnificent job of showing how this happened. I didn't know anyone in this disaster, but I fee so horrible for everyone who has lost someone. It's so incredibly sad.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is sad to drive by and know there's 150 people dead and not recovered yet
@tmg1262
@tmg1262 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, good analysis. I work for a concrete manufacture, I immediately thought of corrosion. Probably from salt water as well as it collected. You would think being near the ocean, you would have a better drainage system to pull water away from the building.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 2 жыл бұрын
Likely a mix of corrosion and piss poor concrete.
@am3986
@am3986 2 жыл бұрын
@@SilvaDreams Materials are so very noble ...I can assure you it was a bad design and negligence on the part of the city to properly inspect the construction process....yes, negligent maintenance as well.
@poisonpotato1
@poisonpotato1 2 жыл бұрын
sAlt WatEr cAnT mElt sTeEl bEaMs
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth 2 жыл бұрын
They had a looooot of flooding there too.They complained that anytime they had a storm the entire parking garage would fill with salt water for days.
@markdavid4897
@markdavid4897 2 жыл бұрын
@@poisonpotato1 No, but it can corrode the heck out of them.
@OfficialSpaceHippo
@OfficialSpaceHippo Жыл бұрын
Very well done! I'm shocked this building wasn't evacuated sooner! Just looking at the satellite images, it looks very run-down, and absolutely looked abandoned from the roof!
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Well at least now thanks to this building collapsing they have evacuated several apartments for the month since then around the my area
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I bought a house rather than a condo. With a condo (especially a high rise) all sorts of agents and managers are involved in the survey and maintenance process, all of whom have conflicting incentives. With a house I can simply instruct a contractor to survey and fix things. My sympathies to the the affected families and may the deceased rest in peace.
@rick-be
@rick-be 2 жыл бұрын
Only a fool buys a condo.They get nothing but problems.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 2 жыл бұрын
That is why I would NEVER, _EVER_ buy a condo. The only exception I would make is a "town house". And even then maybe only an end unit. Beyond the issues mentioned above, Condos can be nightmares, dealing with the HOA and a host of other related things, completely out of the owner's control!!
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 2 жыл бұрын
In Canada, now, there is a legal requirement for all residential buildings to commission a condition report (from a proper independrnt structural surveyor) and for this to be made available to prospective buyers. Acts as a major incentive for existing owners to stay on top of these issues.
@xxzstatixx562
@xxzstatixx562 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@5thratenextjewsnetwork481
@5thratenextjewsnetwork481 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. A condominium collapses in America. And Israel sends in a rescue team. 🤔
@djholliday4413
@djholliday4413 2 жыл бұрын
This tragedy is so horrific. I just imagine all of the residents...children included...laying in bed or on the couch watching movies, when this happened. The same things we were all doing. Their lives were lost in an instant. Life is so fragile. Prayers for all survivors & families of those lost. 🙏🏻❤
@joshuatazie9634
@joshuatazie9634 2 жыл бұрын
Well..said..🙏💯🙇‍♂️
@joshuatazie9634
@joshuatazie9634 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch an interview of the devastated families..I tear up😔😢Honestly..I cant stop thinking about it..Its..just sooo..sad..I feel so bad of how terrible the pain may be..why do these tragedies happen..It was totally preventable 😔
@djholliday4413
@djholliday4413 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuatazie9634 I feel the exact same way. It reminds me so much of 9/11. I know it is a different situation...but it brings those memories back. It is horrific and should never have happened. I pray standards and codes will change & hopefully lives will be saved.
@joshuatazie9634
@joshuatazie9634 2 жыл бұрын
@@djholliday4413 its..so weird that you mentioned Sep.11th..today morning I also compared it to that...😔🤔I even researched the falling man...and more details of that day..I try and compare situations..to see if maybe it's a pattern or what..😔🤔seems..like its tall buildings..or two towers..for some reason..idk
@tracylf5409
@tracylf5409 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuatazie9634 Money & greed is what happened. :(
@KB-dd5lc
@KB-dd5lc 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine waking up to the news that the building you inspected mere hours ago just collapsed.
@tamberlinferguson4156
@tamberlinferguson4156 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!
@adefran718
@adefran718 2 жыл бұрын
They need jail time
@mobilephone6388
@mobilephone6388 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in the building enjoying your holiday
@goxyeagle8446
@goxyeagle8446 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what will be a consequences and will there be any
@johnbergstrom2931
@johnbergstrom2931 2 жыл бұрын
Well, unless you had x-ray vision, you wouldn't have been able to see the true severity of the damage. Now if someone had done work on the pool deck and the building collapsed hours later, that's another deal...
@Odo55
@Odo55 2 жыл бұрын
That inspector must be having nightmares knowing he got out of there when so many above were living the last hours of their lives.
@commanderpinkie7617
@commanderpinkie7617 2 жыл бұрын
Or days…Such morbid thoughts.
@rvserious8317
@rvserious8317 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched almost every video on this disaster in order to understand this tragedy. Yours is by far the most comprehensive and very easy to understand. Thank you. God Bless these victims and their families.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much RV!
@deek64dk
@deek64dk 2 жыл бұрын
I sooo agree💯%! I had been following "Building Integrity" and then came across this gentleman & although they're critical view on what happened is spot on, this dude is DEFINITELY in the lead!!!👍👍🔥
@AlliWritesNow
@AlliWritesNow 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Bravo 🙌!
@DaveEPie
@DaveEPie 2 жыл бұрын
You are really good at this This video will have so many views in the next month
@longstreth67
@longstreth67 2 жыл бұрын
@Martian technology must of been bin laden again. Could of swore that dude was dead by now (Not a joke, just sarcasm)
@outofthedarknessandintothe1538
@outofthedarknessandintothe1538 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this is an eye awakening for all other building inspections.
@dawnreneegmail
@dawnreneegmail 2 жыл бұрын
HOA board members should be shaking in their shoes (boards are generally volunteer and can get sued. What a deal🤨) assuming they survived.
@cosmobuzz14
@cosmobuzz14 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a clear explanation from an engineer perspective; it greatly helps understand the importance of structural damages and urgency of their repair.
@martinbreaux7638
@martinbreaux7638 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! THANK YOU!!! I TRULY APPRECIATE IT!!!!
@Odo55
@Odo55 2 жыл бұрын
Underground parking has always freaked me out. I will never go into one of those again.
@Nostalkersallowedkarmaisreal
@Nostalkersallowedkarmaisreal 2 жыл бұрын
*same*
@jerseyannie1268
@jerseyannie1268 2 жыл бұрын
IKR? I went into a mall underground parking shortly after this tragedy and I got freaked out.
@deborahbeaudoinzaki8019
@deborahbeaudoinzaki8019 2 жыл бұрын
At times it was covered with 18-24 inches of saltwater!
@johnbergstrom2931
@johnbergstrom2931 2 жыл бұрын
Most underground garages are safe, i'm sure. Those built below the water table next to the ocean, however...
@leonwechsler389
@leonwechsler389 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to your questions why the building collapse as it did is the missing tie beams above the large openings. The shear you see of the deck to the columns is also because there were no tie beams in the critical locations. This building slabs were built without post tension cables, so no tie beam, no post tension cables the columns just skew thru the slabs, a classical shear point. Leon Wechsler Architect.
@georgeafajardo4398
@georgeafajardo4398 2 жыл бұрын
Can their be other buildings with the same design faults?
@sarahm9723
@sarahm9723 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@aldrichuy983
@aldrichuy983 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeafajardo4398 there are.
@PracticalCat
@PracticalCat 2 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on the lack of drop panels and or column capitals? The lack of these plus what look like thin slabs and inadequate rebar makes me think the building was on a knifes edge to begin with.
@davemanning6424
@davemanning6424 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how many more buildings there are in Miami sitting on rotten foundations !
@annieterminetschuppon7232
@annieterminetschuppon7232 2 жыл бұрын
And every where in the world. You cannot imagine how many time I ve seen rusty metal inside concrete walls
@LindaMz24
@LindaMz24 2 жыл бұрын
@@annieterminetschuppon7232 That's terrifying. 🥺
@chrisb7198
@chrisb7198 2 жыл бұрын
If this is scary for you do not look into the condition of most of the bridges in America.
@HaitianZach
@HaitianZach 2 жыл бұрын
All of them 🙄
@jasperkensington2644
@jasperkensington2644 2 жыл бұрын
We all need to bark to those bigger dogs that these problems are theirs.
@jim_isf
@jim_isf 2 жыл бұрын
RiP to everyone who lost their lives & sorry to every family member or friend who lost a loved one. We will never forget them, so sad 😢
@JOEMAMMADRINK40Z
@JOEMAMMADRINK40Z 2 жыл бұрын
@Megan Todd awwwww would you like an upvote too? You a gweat person, yep!
@Utoober729
@Utoober729 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be worried that other buildings in the area might collapse, too.
@JubeProductions
@JubeProductions 2 жыл бұрын
yes. But not just any building. I understand there was an exact duplicate building in the area.
@donwaters2022
@donwaters2022 2 жыл бұрын
If someone important lives there it may happen.
@karenelizabeth1590
@karenelizabeth1590 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the answer is to do repairs ASAP and not wait until the absolute maximum time allowable by law.
@JubeProductions
@JubeProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@donwaters2022 seriously? is everything a conspiracy to you?
@emerconghaile4902
@emerconghaile4902 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bit surreal to watch the security camera collapse footage frame-by-frame. I can only imagine how many people died in each frame. Very freaky... Prayers to all those who lost someone.
@lewisnostredame5605
@lewisnostredame5605 2 жыл бұрын
+Emer Conghalie It's one of the most freaky things I have experienced since 9-11. I'm a Miamian but moved out years ago, I knew a girl from this building, she went to my high school. I always thought amazing things of her because she was a 4.0 GPA student in high school, and not surprisingly, ended up becoming a lawyer, Dean's list in college and Cum Laude. It's crazy man. You never imagine it could happen to someone of "that category", if you know what I mean? But this shows the cruel and sad reality, we're all mortals and we all have our day. Throughout this insane darkness, I can only continue to try to believe in God, hope they went to a better place, and have some tranquility in the thought that we all have our day, we'll all be united whether it is in heaven or in the nothingness, we'll be with you one day, sister.
@godwins777proudhancock9
@godwins777proudhancock9 2 жыл бұрын
Lewis....My thoughts go out to you on your friend from school! It is truly TRAGIC and surreal to see. The fact that YOU can hold on to your Faith with this is a real Testimony to God's grace and mercy 🙏💜 One of the most difficult things to do is to keep your FAITH strong when things appear dark and unfair. Especially when it's things like THIS that are difficult to understand how ANY GOOD can come from something so Tragic. But please KNOW that OUR understanding of GOD'S WILL isn't always easy BUT IT'S ALWAYS RIGHT AND NO ONE LOVES HIS CHILDREN MORE! Ty for sharing your thoughts and testimony here! KNOW it did make me think and get a better perspective on this tragedy, along with the amazing explination in this video. My thoughts , compassion, and LOVE and PRAYERS go out to you and EVERYONE affected by this Tragic event. Although I don't understand why it had to happen...I KNOW THAT EACH AND EVERY PERSON LOST COULD NOT BE LOVED MORE BY GOD AND FEEL THEY ARE NOW SURROUNDED BY PEACE AND LOVE WITH OUR AMAZING CREATOR! I PRAY ALL, that are here hurting, will have their hearts filled with LOVE AND PEACE from GOD! MY heart goes out to EVERYONE! GOD BLESS Y'ALL 🙏🏼🥰 FROM TEXAS!✌️💜🇺🇸
@TheCherrybite
@TheCherrybite 2 жыл бұрын
😢😢😢💔
@lewisnostredame5605
@lewisnostredame5605 2 жыл бұрын
@@godwins777proudhancock9 Thank you. Some people might find it bizarre, but all we have left in moments like this is faith and belief in God, a superior force. Greetings to you and your kind message. Love to Texas.
@TheSunGoethDown
@TheSunGoethDown 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how the people must feel who live right next door but are told “This won’t happen to you! We are sure!”.
@Christin5554
@Christin5554 2 жыл бұрын
I know I would worry!
@c.a.g.3130
@c.a.g.3130 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like the people in WTC Tower 1 who were told to go back in, that the collapse of WTC 2 wouldn't affect them and that everything was fine.
@ericarichards8350
@ericarichards8350 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.a.g.3130 you know I understand it was the safer option. They had no idea another plane was coming but everytime I hear a voicemail from someone saying they tried to leave but were turned around in the lobby then died when the building came down just floors me. I mean I've not heard everyone say this but a few people said they refused to let them out. Including one girl who just ran past them and forced her way out. She was even worried she would be fired after she got out over it. I would be furious if that happened to my family. Even though logically it makes sense.
@chrisbarr1359
@chrisbarr1359 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericarichards8350 I've NEVER heard they were forced to stay. That isn't even legal to not allow someone to leave - it's called false imprisonment. An announce that was made over the public address system telling people they should return to their floor.
@Chris-ew9mh
@Chris-ew9mh 2 жыл бұрын
If it has the same design and the columns are smaller on that one side of the building I would definitely be worried!
@truthb2u2
@truthb2u2 2 жыл бұрын
Greed kills. Thank you for this exceptional assessment.
@tha1unknownmusic
@tha1unknownmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Someone cheaped out along the line
@Twinleo1
@Twinleo1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is so interesting. Thank you for explaining this. I didn’t realize the building was so beautiful. It’s such a shame and my heart truly goes out to these people and their friends and families. It’s just so sad 😢😢😢
@depotdan4654
@depotdan4654 2 жыл бұрын
I have speculated over some years that buildings and bridges would start collapsing due to age & lack of maintenance. The older I get, the more I realize how much we depend on people to be at the top of their game. You know like Doctors, Engineers, Educators, Contractors, everyone driving….. So many people do the bare minimum to get by.
@chefgiovanni
@chefgiovanni 2 жыл бұрын
True, and the fact Florida is no top of water cave systems , it is a sinking sandy peninsula. Overcrowded and over built. More will fall and sink over time. On a positive note, let us cook, laugh and live for the day.
@creatrixZBD
@creatrixZBD 2 жыл бұрын
I think most people do their best, but are hamstrung by the fact that everything is compromised for profit. It’s not the people, it’s this ridiculous economic architecture we are forced to live under. “Profit before people” is at the heart of this, not lazy individuals (imho)
@egverlander
@egverlander 2 жыл бұрын
There-in lies the central problem of hiring on the basis of diversity and not merit: hire the best!
@dalemanolas5994
@dalemanolas5994 2 жыл бұрын
@@creatrixZBD We are a culture controlled by MBAs and lawyers. When the parasites get stronger than the host then the host begins to sicken and die.
@JordanWilliams-ix2td
@JordanWilliams-ix2td 2 жыл бұрын
@@egverlander Well alot of people don't hire black people & minorities in general . It's not b/c of diversity. People just don't see black people as capable no matter their education & skill
@upbreaker7055
@upbreaker7055 2 жыл бұрын
If this happened during a large earthquake, hurricane, or tsunami for some reason it wouldn't have hurt so much, but knowing it's human error and that it could have been prevented is just devastating.
@beatweezl
@beatweezl 2 жыл бұрын
How about this? If it happened at 1:30 in the afternoon while everyone was at work or school, rather than 1:30am while probably 80% of occupants were home, I believe the death toll would be much less than half.
@militaryveteran6185
@militaryveteran6185 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, this was NO error ! Watch pics of other Imploded buildings and the watch this one!
@nhack5504
@nhack5504 2 жыл бұрын
@@militaryveteran6185 The science of a building implosion and the Surfside collapse are not that different. If even a few columns collapse, the remainder of the building gets pulled down as well.
@dogfacedboy6947
@dogfacedboy6947 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not at all sure you can really call this "human error" - I mean we have been building tall buildings right up next to the ocean, supported by... sand? Yes they do sink pilings down to the so-called bedrock, although THAT is just limestone - compressed sand - susceptable to everything that the ocean can muster, it's constantly getting soaked with SEA-water because it's BELOW THE WATER TABLE - and like, there's this whole OCEAN of lime-dissolving... ummm, OCEAN-water out there. ALL YOUR PILINGS, all up and down the entire East Coast of America, the West Coast and "panhandle" are built on a mix of... SAND, and COMPRESSED SAND. I mean, Fuckdiddle Roo, have you ever seen Ocean City, Maryland?!? Sanibal & St. Georges Island, FL.... There's not really an ERROR here, we all know perfectly well what's underneath our coastal condos & hotels. As long as they keep building them, we keep buying them, and as long as we keep buying them, they keep building them! Calling that "human error" insinuates that we might try to fix something here. HA HA HA! Yeah, right. You know, it doesn't take a rat's diddle to do the RIGHT THING about global warming, and it doesn't involve recycling your diapers and flying on big jets to conferences about pollution... it involves ABANDONING THE COASTS and moving everything inland fifty miles. BEFORE WE'RE FORCED TO... and a double rooty-toot-toot to THAT, huh = what a poopyhead, man!
@jseahmed2432
@jseahmed2432 2 жыл бұрын
@@dogfacedboy6947 Havana Cuba concrete building neglected for 70 years still standing up .
@wannacashmeoutside
@wannacashmeoutside 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy from college was getting stoned on the beach just down the street from the apartments and he said the entire beach shook like an earthquake and they nearly crapped their pants
@jockoharpo2622
@jockoharpo2622 2 жыл бұрын
So was he crowning on his rear and it went back in for a later time?
@wannacashmeoutside
@wannacashmeoutside 2 жыл бұрын
@@jockoharpo2622 he had the immediate urge to 💩 but was running and the urge went away…. That was the weirdest convo I just had with him 😂
@jockoharpo2622
@jockoharpo2622 2 жыл бұрын
@@wannacashmeoutside LOL I can imagine it was an odd conversation. Was there anything else he noticed? LIke beams from the sky?
@JOEMAMMADRINK40Z
@JOEMAMMADRINK40Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@jockoharpo2622 No dickbag, no beans.......... it was 'raining frogs' jus like it says in the bible derp derp derp.All this talk bout sot is making me hungry. Time for Arby's.
@livb324
@livb324 2 жыл бұрын
So it sounded like bombs or explosions went off?
@designstudio8013
@designstudio8013 Жыл бұрын
After studying this case I have concluded the building failed due to lack of rebar bond stress resistance. This result can be seen where the rebar unzipped out of the slabs. Also in the powder consistency of the concrete. The construction on the adjacent Hotel caused thousands of shock waves that caused a separation of the rebar/concrete couple. The collapse started around floor 8-10 first bringing down the penthouse and roof.
@TheSonofabiscuit
@TheSonofabiscuit 2 жыл бұрын
As a window replacement contractor in Florida, i know that waterproofing was done wrong more often then it is done right. And nobody ever wants to pay to fix it.
@taketimeout2share
@taketimeout2share 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. But it if a building is built properly, to the original design, it should not lead to this. Everything deteriorates and so wherever you live you need to pay for maintainence. That is why I would never live in an apartment block. Most residents aren't interested in the politics of what needs to be done and the building managers want to spend as little as possible of the money they demand off the residents. And the residents who do get involved end up arguing about what should be done while some dont care that their apartment is leaking water through your ceiling. Its a mess, and always will be.
@ensinitas
@ensinitas 2 жыл бұрын
you are correct. water intrusion is a slow and relentless process. it finds the smallest entry and works its damage. as a roofer i see the same failings you do as a window guy. one thing i tell folks is that they should ALWAYS replace windows with nail flange new construction style so they can correct the original installers poor flashing. as a roofer i correct prior faulty details as often as not.
@VIDSTORAGE
@VIDSTORAGE 2 жыл бұрын
Building Contractors and businesses owners want it all built too fast ... People need to think about The Roman Coliseum,BUILT IN YEAR OF 72 AD ,and other buildings before there were modern power tools and realize why they still stand .. Wasn't there a waking bridge in Miami that fell a few years back ?
@designstudio8013
@designstudio8013 2 жыл бұрын
First thing to do is to get them to screw the windows in without 2' shim spaces!!!
@TheSonofabiscuit
@TheSonofabiscuit 2 жыл бұрын
@@ensinitas that's a really good point, especially in Florida with stucco walls. It's expensive to do it correctly, meaning remove and replace stucco, moisture barrier, and window.. and then paint. I won't name the companies, but they all sell cut out jobs. Meaning cutting through the stucco, MB, and nailing fin. (Florida requires screws, tapcons for block) and then just throwing a window in and fastening it to the studs inside.. all it does is destroy homes, because they wanted to save some money.
@internetuser7156
@internetuser7156 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good explanation. I just wish your cursor was a different color so I could see it.
@RobinLynnGriffith
@RobinLynnGriffith 2 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree...old eyes...lol
@eugeniaskelley5194
@eugeniaskelley5194 2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@OofusTwillip
@OofusTwillip 2 жыл бұрын
And several times bigger!
@tomikoberry
@tomikoberry 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but after rewinding a few times I started followed it. Lol to the old eye comment
@mariannesouza8326
@mariannesouza8326 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@christhorne116
@christhorne116 2 жыл бұрын
Columns can vary in size depending on beam span and loading above, rem that in part of the pool deck area there was no building above, I think you were looking at columns that only supported the pool deck. Also columns reduce in size as you go higher since load gets less. Still, the fact the slab had very little connection at the columns does point to a lower level collapse which could have destabilised the rest of the building.
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 Жыл бұрын
There are smaller columns holding up the main building as well as the car park. I think standing salty water on the deck slowly seeped into cracks over years and caused spalling and more cracking, letting in more water.. When the deck collapsed, it ripped off large chunks from the narrow columns, halving its thickness and could no longer hold the weight.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 11 ай бұрын
The pool deck was over the underground car park, columns of which showed significant signs of degradation and water erosion, as if the pool had been leaking
@charmainetheron1866
@charmainetheron1866 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing video to watch. Love the detail and explanation and all the tools you use. Gives such a clear perspective.
@talkingdogmusic4349
@talkingdogmusic4349 2 жыл бұрын
Havin worked in the 'concrete' business for years, I can tell you that water is a force to be dealt with. Never underestimate what improper drainage and time can do.
@imarobot3757
@imarobot3757 2 жыл бұрын
@La Huasteca Potosino San Luis Potosi Mexico land or they put piles down to bedrock
@andydarling8951
@andydarling8951 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great breakdown but I’d like to recommend next time recording with a colored circle around your mouse, or a colored mouse pointer itself. It was difficult to follow your mouse at some points and I had no idea what you were pointing too. Great job
@kathrynpaine9506
@kathrynpaine9506 2 жыл бұрын
There's a mouse?
@ohioguy215
@ohioguy215 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathrynpaine9506 ... Yes. The cat they identified from the 9th floor that survived the fall would not give up the chase from that damn pesky 9th floor mouse. They rescued the cat before the cat caught the mouse. The mouse was last spotted hiding under a beach blanket.
@barth9580
@barth9580 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope there isn't a next time
@donttalkcrap
@donttalkcrap 2 жыл бұрын
​@Squires Castle Your comment was perfectly fine, right up until your logical fallacy of using an ad hominem attack. Let me guess, Trump supporter? (see what I did there? ... basically what you did) Personal attacks will never bolster or support an argument - even a good one. You negated yourself.
@JeddieT
@JeddieT 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s impossible to follow the curser along with the discussion in this video and the content creator should know this. Besides, it’s easy enough to get a red circle or other content marker to highlight areas.
@takchan2145
@takchan2145 2 жыл бұрын
My stomach's in knots watching the building cave in. My heart goes out to the families affected.
@Irwhodunit
@Irwhodunit 2 жыл бұрын
This was just an outstanding presentation. Thank you. I can't imagine this kind of reporting without computer-driven visuals, camera-phone recordings and online access to research sources.
@JoleneSailer
@JoleneSailer 2 жыл бұрын
"This was just an outstanding presentation"????? Robert Blake precious lives were lost AND your commenting on reporting being "outstanding? You have no heart. You need help. Creep!! Innocent people died and all you care about is a proper and outstanding "presentation"? Take your meds!!
@curtjames
@curtjames 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoleneSailer it may seem heartless, but clinical dissection of the event may be beneficial to seeing future issues/preventing a repeat of this tragedy. So, yes, “outstanding presentation”-detailed intelligent review necessary for a thorough knowledge of the event.
@childofcascadia
@childofcascadia 11 ай бұрын
@JoleneSailer Wow, you must be projecting telling other people to take their meds. This *was* an outstanding presentation. When a tragedy happens involving things like mechanical or structural failure, you need to look at how and why it happened to prevent another one so no one else ever has to suffer the same. And you do that by looking at the factual evidence, images, witness statements, timelines then you compile the facts and present the likely cause of the event as factually and concisely as possible. You dont let emotions get in the way. If you let your emotions cloud the facts, you do a massive disservice to those who were lost and their families as it is your duty to determine the facts. But based on your comment, I doubt you are very good at not letting your emotions get in the way of your judgement. You sound unhinged.
@Irwhodunit
@Irwhodunit 11 ай бұрын
@@childofcascadia Thank you. Well said.
@caits3930
@caits3930 2 жыл бұрын
@8:31 [Totally inconsequential, but figured I'd mention] That's not a beam, it's a rectangular metal sign affixed to the gate. Light is reflecting off the bottom 2/3rds of it, and the top third is in shadow. If you look at the pre-collapse image @8:51 you can see the green metal sign more clearly.
@flamegod7
@flamegod7 2 жыл бұрын
It's just crazy how much load those five columns were taking every day. On top of being relatively small in diameter, they had to deal with the following: the weight of all of the concrete floors above, the weight of any standing/flowing water, the weight of a seemingly full capacity building, and the weight of the pool deck, all while being compromised from salt water intrusion causing sprawling. If this isn't a recipe for disaster, I don't know what is.
@wlfgang
@wlfgang 2 жыл бұрын
Those 'knocking sounds' people mention could have been a rebar under the stress slowly pulling outside of concrete floors/ceilings by the building part that sinked in the last days, hours, minutes..
@thelonemaiden
@thelonemaiden 2 жыл бұрын
i've been anticipating the stories of those whove been there either as a tenant or a viewer and got out, 'cause they ... had sense.
@piwackitpepper7558
@piwackitpepper7558 2 жыл бұрын
this is the type of investigation/reportage that engages me. Thanks!! Good work, you!!
@jaydee9548
@jaydee9548 Ай бұрын
I just randomly came across this video, I was looking for info about limestone supporting the weight of all the building in so flo. I have to say, a very satisfying explanation. I think the tone of your voice has something to do with catching my full attention. Now, I am going to research on this topic...lol. Nice job! You gained a new subscriber. 👍
@berviffy30
@berviffy30 2 жыл бұрын
This should definitely open the eyes of residents living in high rise. To get updates on the buildings conditions. If this isnt a thing already, it should be
@Scraparella
@Scraparella 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you are saying but how can one be sure that repairs are truly being done?
@stevelaminack1516
@stevelaminack1516 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously a 40 year cycle for those building near the beach is to long. If for no other reason it would force owners and condo associations to get ahead of needed repair and it would never get to the state of this building and there just almost has to be other buildings like this one waiting to fall.
@phillyunrau4736
@phillyunrau4736 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scraparella .. the JESUITS Sank the Titanic to create the evil FEDERAL RESERVE 😈 and now this Condo . WHY ..?? to create wwwhat?? WALKABLE CITIES AGENDA 📋 2030 has begun.. seems far fetched but now ALL HIGHRISE BUILDINGS over 40yr old will be taken down .. and the New CITIES will be waiting ..
@phillyunrau4736
@phillyunrau4736 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevelaminack1516 and these New CITIES are not people friendly .. about total DECEPTION.. survilence and control by the Satanic ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT ..
@kylanoble8669
@kylanoble8669 2 жыл бұрын
The Florida laws for buildings are just ABSOLUTELY ridiculous in terms of leniency. Their mistake was living in a state that values “small government”. 40 years for any high rise, ESPECIALLY on a beech? Ridiculous. Also though, why did it take 4 years to make necessary repairs? Why did they not specifically focus repairs that were detrimental to the building? Disgusting. The level of greed and negligence here is absolutely disgusting.
@cwill9816
@cwill9816 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you had a pointer I could see. Even so, this is some of the best descriptions of the tragedy I have seen.
@TwistedLuckTruth
@TwistedLuckTruth 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same. Amazing video I just wish I could see the cursor.
@ashleymason7724
@ashleymason7724 2 жыл бұрын
yeah me too. I had to go back and still i don’t know exactly what parking spot was what bc i can’t zoom in. i’m looking for dude to move the cursor around in circles or something. ugh. It’s needs to be a bright as can be neon yellow big ol circle or something.
@TwistedLuckTruth
@TwistedLuckTruth 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleymason7724 😂😂😂 yeah same. I was thinking neon green. I feel bad tho bc I’m sure after putting the whole video together he realized the same thing but he put too much work into it to scrap it and do it over.
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
I vote red cursor, & a bit larger.
@shopiefraccount9782
@shopiefraccount9782 2 жыл бұрын
Me 2, can’t see the pointer !!! PLEASE CHANGE POINTER TO A VISIBLE POINTER ☺️
@leciadavis-phillips6676
@leciadavis-phillips6676 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I learned so much. My heart goes out to the friends n family. So sad.
@NickP
@NickP 2 жыл бұрын
Great work, and very well explained… This disaster makes me mad because it was so avoidable and should have never happened
@lisascott2449
@lisascott2449 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just horrified over all those precious lives lost. My heart aches terribly for all families. My daughter lives in Florida and I know how much my life would have changed if it was my daughter, son, mother, or father. May god bless you all suffering. I’m so sorry! 💓
@raeganbutterfly08
@raeganbutterfly08 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how the pool guy pointed every error that caused the collapse.
@pambb5743
@pambb5743 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is crazy, isn’t it? Almost too convenient to believe. Plus, the lady taking the pictures from across the way JUST HAPPENED to be filming the building MINUTES before the collapse and durning the collapse . HUMMMM, what luck! 🙄 The building was professionally demoed.
@raeganbutterfly08
@raeganbutterfly08 2 жыл бұрын
@@pambb5743 now that was very weird! I wouldn’t have thought to record the building leaking, personally. But idk. That pool guy x’d everything.
@oneway4667
@oneway4667 2 жыл бұрын
@@pambb5743 if I seen a sprinkler pipe poring out like it was in that vid I would prob record as well...I’ve been in construction for over a decade and that is something that should never happen and would raise major red flags to me
@jamesallen5250
@jamesallen5250 2 жыл бұрын
@@pambb5743 They started recording when they heard noises coming from the garage area. Then you see huge chunks of concrete and water pouring from the ceiling and 7 minutes later it collapsed. How many controlled demos do you know of that take 7 minutes after the charges go off? You're smarter than your comment.
@zryiii
@zryiii 2 жыл бұрын
@@pambb5743 Because they heard and saw pieces of the structure collapsing for 10 minutes prior... good lord you Q cultists are braindead
@shellyb413
@shellyb413 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely and intrigued and so grateful for your video. Thank you for being so observant and vocal on addressing the integrity of the columns.
@scottwalker7939
@scottwalker7939 2 жыл бұрын
that videos was impressive and sad all at once. please keep doing what you do. thank you for this video
@ladweeb1798
@ladweeb1798 2 жыл бұрын
Try using a RED pointer and increase the size of the pointer.
@joolzg1936
@joolzg1936 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Very difficult to see what is being pointed out.
@raydavies3278
@raydavies3278 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed ,l could not make sense of some comments as l did'nt know where to look.
@donnalangley117
@donnalangley117 2 жыл бұрын
It was ment that way so you would believe the narrative lie. Wake up. It was not a foundation failure. Those kinds of failures leave a building leaning over hence the leaning tower. They blew this building up. Making it into dust. Even the rebar became dust! Which that should give a hint. What kind of temperature turns rebar into dust? Start thinking.... ignore the lies This video is made by a liar!
@PirosmikeyNone
@PirosmikeyNone 2 жыл бұрын
@@donnalangley117 IM NOT SURE BUT WTC7 BUILDING WAS DEFINITELY SET UP !
@CeeJayKay
@CeeJayKay 2 жыл бұрын
95% of the time I couldn’t see your pointer.
@leonwechsler389
@leonwechsler389 2 жыл бұрын
Your observation of the skinny columns at the collapsed part are absolutely correct !
@TGears314
@TGears314 2 жыл бұрын
This would be a great “moments before disaster” episode
@MariaMongillo
@MariaMongillo 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive & informative, thanks for the video. What makes this even more devastating is that this tragedy could've been avoided. Sending prayers.
@higbees31
@higbees31 2 жыл бұрын
They were paying out $900 a month for assessment. As a poster posted. "When money needs to be saved. Maintenance is first on the cutback list". They probably figured or thought that this is a concrete building and there is no way it will collapse.
@DarkAngela01
@DarkAngela01 2 жыл бұрын
People do not understand materials vulnerabilities. The engineers did, which is why they used the term "exponential" to describe the breakdown of the concrete. I was on my HOA board in FL for several years. It was a new building. I wanted to do common sense maintenance, but I was often voted against because nobody else understood the consequences of NOT properly maintaining the building. Last time I'll ever live in a condo, that's for sure.
@shampersaud2763
@shampersaud2763 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAngela01 This collapsed building seemed an unusual disaster waiting to happen...Although the gentleman has given a comprehensive analysis of what might have happened and obviously other's speculations, I think that the truth has to be known hoping we can find it but we cannot fear anything..We all have to die someday ,somewhere, at some time .If we had known about the dangers that lied behind the problems we would have never gone there so mysteriously ,what had to happen has happened...Unless there was a silent bomb planted there...then, unfortunately, those who were there were all affected...
@DarkAngela01
@DarkAngela01 2 жыл бұрын
@@shampersaud2763 you would be surprised how often deferred maintenance happens. This is not nearly as unusual as you seem to think.
@ThePerfectBlack
@ThePerfectBlack 2 жыл бұрын
Right they’ll just keep an eye on it instead of fixing the problem
@edwinemery577
@edwinemery577 2 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but I think a couple of guys said that about the Titanic ! No way it would sink ! ! !
@greygoose82t.16
@greygoose82t.16 2 жыл бұрын
My wife thinks I'm weird for never looking at a building or structure and appreciate how good it looks, but instead I like to go look at the underneath, hidden things like the frame supports, the piping, wirings and even the unmarked doors. Condolences to the unsuspecting victims and their families though :(
@iyone823
@iyone823 2 жыл бұрын
Your wife is lucky to have you.
@paulachin9130
@paulachin9130 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about construction but when I pass raised buildings standing on posts it always worry me that how can such tall concrete buildings stay up with all that weight, just my observation. Surely all buildings should be checked thoroughly to stop things like this happening.
@perthfanny3017
@perthfanny3017 Жыл бұрын
I was in Miami on a vacation 2 weeks ago and couldn't stop looking at all those high rise condominium buildings. I loved the design of them and was really impressed by their height. Very modern and nice looking. Now that I've seen those videos I will never look at them the same way^^
@mikemasters4248
@mikemasters4248 2 жыл бұрын
That was really well done, hopefully the investigators hire you to help them officially answer everyone's questions.
@WilliamHuffman-uz1ry
@WilliamHuffman-uz1ry 10 ай бұрын
I hope you see this Jeff! Your thorough analysis on what caused this building to collapse opened my eyes on taking house maintenance seriously. I have foundational cracks in my home that need mitigating to outright fixing. I have been on a path of placing importance on building maintenance. I hope you see this and get to reply. Thank you again for these videos. I learned a lot from you on importance of maintaining buildings and walkways to prevent collapses.
@Just2Intense
@Just2Intense 2 жыл бұрын
This is heartbreaking so sorry for the loved ones who died.
@RM-od6hg
@RM-od6hg 2 жыл бұрын
This is a building that should have been condemned until repairs was made period
@johnshaw8228
@johnshaw8228 2 жыл бұрын
These reports are goddamned, big-time lies. The causes of the disaster were willful negligence, indifference to human life, and greed. All this focusing on cracks in concrete is to distract you from the facts. The facts are they knew about it three years ago, and they did nothing about it. Knowing and doing nothing to prevent the catastrophe is criminal. Of course, in this insane country, they will try to sweep that aside and focus on material failures that were already known years in advance. In China those responsible would be imprisoned or executed. In the US they would probably be promoted.
@michaeld.coulombesr.583
@michaeld.coulombesr.583 2 жыл бұрын
I, as one, think that it would have no difference whatsoever to even think of repairing the base structure of that building....yeah right....first thing to do is to grab a sky hook slide a building holder in between the third and fourth floors, completely remove everything from the bottom of the fourth floor down to bedrock, completely rebuild everything....yeah right, like I said before let's just get silly and stupid. How in the hell do we ever think that we are so smart and then prove how incredibly stupid we really are by killing so many older folks who were just trying to live out the rest of their lives with a little peace....Michael said that, (I'm 78.) BYE For now my friends....seams like I, as one, really don't have any friends out there.
@dawnreneegmail
@dawnreneegmail 2 жыл бұрын
Greed, apathy, not my (fill in the blank), I don’t have time, nah, entitlement which may have been the Waterloo for the now deceased residents who as owners certainly were aware of the 2018 report and could have skedaddled before the collapse. Yes they’re elderly but better inconvenienced than this outcome.
@aldrichuy983
@aldrichuy983 2 жыл бұрын
The sad reality is that people believe in "Experience is the best teacher", and not by investigating the warning. Most of us don't follow "Prevention is better than cure".
@Lewdacris916
@Lewdacris916 2 жыл бұрын
Cant fix a design flaw in the foundation, im sure some people knew it would fail eventually but were paid to keep quiet.
@thomaswright6936
@thomaswright6936 2 жыл бұрын
Really and truly a great video. Thank you for painstakingly recreating the event so that the ‘Everyman’ is able to understand the tragedy. Genius work.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas, glad to help
@chortkoffandriggio2018
@chortkoffandriggio2018 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these videos!
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@PaulJersey
@PaulJersey 2 жыл бұрын
The witnesses claim that the plaza deck collapsed first, the engineering report mentioned excessive spalling, waterproofing failures, and rebar corrosion. The pool was rebuilt adding extra weight, and also poor drainage with a flat plaza deck. The plaza deck area collapsed onto the deteriorated transfer girders causing their failure. The transfer girder failure caused the columns to punch through the deck and they also kicked at the building line. Once the building line columns kicked most of the rest of the structure fell with them. I am an civil engineer and agree with your findings. The slenderness ratio of the columns in the pool area being lesser than the building columns is another blatant design error. The way the rebar came out still attached to the column so clean with no concrete attached has me questioning the integrity of the deck. For them to come out that clean the deck had to already be cracked, deteriorated and crumbling years before the collapse. This collapse was clearly a critical structural failure, and all the various implosion/explosion conspiracy theories are total nonsense. A planned implosion is similar to an accordion and results in a square flat shaped pile of rubble. A critical failure such as this building results in a random shaped pile with a more pointed top. The shape of the debris pile proves the conspiracy theories to be wrong. This is a real tragedy, again excellent analysis.
@maryyung1994
@maryyung1994 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input. I had to re read your comment a couple of times before I was able to understand what you were talking about. But i get it now. Again, thank you.
@micheleh5269
@micheleh5269 2 жыл бұрын
This building was beginning a 40 year 'recertification'. Yet with these critical structural design errors, how was it ever certified in the first place? Scary.
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 2 жыл бұрын
There's a photo of the columns under the building, they looked thin. 110% designed not 200% as one person stated.
@PaulJersey
@PaulJersey 2 жыл бұрын
@@awakenedone2396 I understand some people think that a van full of explosives detonated next to one of main columns in the parking garage could of taken the building down as well, but there is no evidence of that at all. Some sort of planned event with enough explosives would have taken the whole building down. I think that it was just a structural failure of a poorly designed, built and maintained structure.
@PaulJersey
@PaulJersey 2 жыл бұрын
@@maryyung1994 thank you Mary. I had a mistake that I edited it was the plaza deck that collapsed first.
@smitty0
@smitty0 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I can only imagine someone in the second tower waking up to the first one collapsing, freaking out, then watching their whole room collapse on in them. Its so terribly sad. This is gross negligence and I hope this enacts stricter legislation regarding building code.
@stormcherry6064
@stormcherry6064 2 жыл бұрын
So. I can't speak for this, building but - I do, know that places, especially cities, have bidding wars amongst contractors; and the lowest usually, gets the job - but they aren't always, the greatest - so the person that hired them has to pay more, to get someone in, to do a better job... #thisandotherreasonsidonttrustsociety
@stormcherry6064
@stormcherry6064 2 жыл бұрын
@lackoffkgivity we watching the same videos?
@muddyooch
@muddyooch 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched all your videos and truly, your is the most logical and comprehensive. You articulate every aspect of your theory perfectly. Could not find one "um" or "Uh". Well spoken! Thank for your hard work and prayers to the victims and families, rescue workers.
@jaymckinlay7495
@jaymckinlay7495 2 жыл бұрын
This video gives my family closure. Thank you.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@thelefthandedshooter5760
@thelefthandedshooter5760 2 жыл бұрын
Failure is rarely a “sudden” event. It’s a series of engineering mistakes and other issues ignored for years. Any break in the chain could have prevented this.
@tomm1109
@tomm1109 2 жыл бұрын
With stuff like this once part of it goes, it all goes. Concrete doesn't bend like wood which may sag and alert to a probem. But wood decks collapse suddenly all the time from dry rot. Once part of it goes all the force goes to the rest and the rest doesn't have the strength and a domino effect happens. It seems like the extreme failures were only apparent minutes before the whole thing collapsed.
@ellesmithfagan
@ellesmithfagan 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right - we must honor the dead first, but then there needs to be a HUE and CRY - because in just his one week the news has revealed that the problems that resulted in this tragedy began 13 years ago and were very poorly attended to. A few people should be in jail for the irresponsibility that is behind this sorrow. Prayers for all those who weep today though "..comfort, comfort my people" Take interest, keep interested. - caring is what it's all about.
@areuaware6842
@areuaware6842 2 жыл бұрын
Greed caused that building to collapse, pure and simple.
@millionbillion6384
@millionbillion6384 2 жыл бұрын
What pisses me off the most is that tax payers are paying for the cleanup.
@tigereye973
@tigereye973 2 жыл бұрын
Duh? Did you watch the video?
@blitzblutz
@blitzblutz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't watch "the news" anymore so this is my first time seeing the actual building. I had heard about this tragedy for a while now. I was shocked by the luxury of this property! I assumed that it was an old, run down place but it would've been a building that I would've comfortably purchased in.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video bro @JeffOstroff
@tamberlinferguson4156
@tamberlinferguson4156 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!!
@jamestroy34
@jamestroy34 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive presentation, Jeff!! I’d call that investigative journalism at its best 🤩
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you James
@jmlewis435
@jmlewis435 2 жыл бұрын
YES!
@401Impala
@401Impala 2 жыл бұрын
All he did was put everything everyone else has been saying for a week into 1 video.
@jamestroy34
@jamestroy34 2 жыл бұрын
@@401Impala so I shouldn’t commend him???
@401Impala
@401Impala 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamestroy34 Did you commend the other content creators that actually did the "investigating"?
@NLR759
@NLR759 2 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how those who own expensive real estate try to save money on maintaining the integrity of the building. I have encountered the same problem while living in a condo. I was a member of the Strata Council for 5 years. It always took SO MUCH convincing to get owners to agree to basic maintenance necessary to keep water out of the building. Whether it be roofs, windows, or mechanical aspects of the building. This is one of the main reasons I never want to live in a condo again. I bet those owners would not think it's too expensive now to replace the water proofing membrane on the pool deck.
@kay8698
@kay8698 2 жыл бұрын
just stay away from the condos near the ocean or built on sand,,,,the sea salt rots them
@anthonyjarrett3206
@anthonyjarrett3206 2 жыл бұрын
I well want to move out of my condo
@SCIFIguy64
@SCIFIguy64 2 жыл бұрын
The layman doesn't see buildings as objects that require maintenance to the bones, just paint and put up facades as it wears. You see it in inner city neighborhoods with driveways sinking, foundations failing, etc. These are old neighborhoods from the 40's or 50's, plenty are even older. Once the new suburbs reach a certain age, you're going to see the popular split levels and ranches fail the same way. It's preventative maintenance mostly, but it's extremely costly and has no obvious sign of failure the same way a car not starting to avoid grenading an engine does. It's this carelessness that plagues most homeowners that plagues property management as well. These folks are sales people first, and property managers second. They want people to move in and pay, all while making a profit. Roll out vinyl floors over real wood saves money, and in all fairness it is adequate. Real wood is a vanity anyways, all the floor does is add insulation from the floor below, it doesn't matter what facade covers it so long as there is a floor base. But that line of thinking trickles into everything else too, and in this case it went into the building itself. It was neglected and ignored because it didn't have a big red warning saying it's bad, and the people trained to identify those issues, acting as the red warning, were ignored and did not express their findings in a way a person focusing on saving money would understand.
@rick-be
@rick-be 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyjarrett3206 Get out while you can, prices will be falling faster than Surfside did.
@sherrieshatzen3801
@sherrieshatzen3801 2 жыл бұрын
@@SCIFIguy64 As a designer (not in FL) I agree completely. I have had clients whose home was in dire need of major repair, but they want to proceed with "cosmetic" fixes withuot addressing the underlying failed construction issues. I won't proceed until the home is certified sound with structural problems inspected by an engineer & repairs made by qualified, licensed professionals followed by another inspection.
@johnrathgeber3185
@johnrathgeber3185 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight! You had made the comment that the columns in the center of the site were narrower than the ones around the perimeter. I didn't think of it before, but structurally they were probably ok as long as the pool deck/garage ceiling stayed intact at the center attached halfway up. Once the pool deck collapsed down, that left those narrow columns with no way to transfer load to the side over twice the height. That explains why the pool deck looks almost completely intact...it fell way in advance.
@kathrineprescott
@kathrineprescott 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this was my first video choice on the subject. Subscribed.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@deletedwaffles
@deletedwaffles 2 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting such nice looking interiors for the apartment attached to such crappy infrastructure.
@ladybuggs11
@ladybuggs11 2 жыл бұрын
Makes it even scarier.
@Just_call_me_MK
@Just_call_me_MK 2 жыл бұрын
The rich get rich by being as cheap as possible.
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 2 жыл бұрын
What is it exactly that makes New York merchant bank headquarters buildings immune from such defects? Different regulatory system?
@msbell221982
@msbell221982 2 жыл бұрын
Me neither.
@2004mojo
@2004mojo 2 жыл бұрын
In response to "The Last Dad on Earth", neither was I. My thought was they were old apartments that converted to condos but some may have never been upgraded per the owners balking. But this building was a showplace! from many of the pictures. The lack of upkeep in the garage & the area of pool piping & equipment is shocking.
@epicepidemic7131
@epicepidemic7131 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this is not a weird comment, but I am impressed by the firm that did the 2018 survey--for their attention to detail and forthrightness about the serious danger looming.
@CountryBears1994
@CountryBears1994 2 жыл бұрын
2018. Owners warned of issues in foundation and garage. And the owners did nothing instead they started on the roof adding more stress to a crumbling foundation! Should be sued for criminal negligence, and jail! 1 year for each deceased!
@dananorth895
@dananorth895 2 жыл бұрын
@@CountryBears1994 Sounds like the architectural firm was culpable as well as mentionef in report. Delays don't surprise me as basement/garage pavement/concrete would have to be removed as well. Major headaches all around.
@P.Johanna
@P.Johanna 2 жыл бұрын
You probably work for them. Why did they bury the “exponential” damage statement? You would think that would be at least in bold.
@edwardschmitt5710
@edwardschmitt5710 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well they didn't have to fix it. Anyone can poke holes in a boat....
@kevinm9
@kevinm9 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Excellent work. Thank you
@thebizop
@thebizop 2 жыл бұрын
Great observations. Thanks for sharing!
@applesomething
@applesomething 2 жыл бұрын
It’s horrifying to watch footage of the moments of the collapse knowing there were people inside. I can hardly watch that part but this explanation is really well done. Thank you.
@CubitaLola
@CubitaLola 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@nfjkod
@nfjkod 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive analysis, Jeff. You're a great communicator. Condolences to those who lost loved ones. Very tragic situation, for sure. My heart and prayers go out to them.
@ObtuseMori
@ObtuseMori 2 жыл бұрын
I only recently learned about this awful event via a podcast that I randomly decided to listen to, but I hadn't actually seen any pictures/footage of the building or collapse before that so I was just relying on audio descriptions and my own imagination to try and understand exactly what happened. Thank you so much for this informative video, it really brings everything together and helps to create a cohesive idea of what the building and pool deck area looked like, the sorts of damage and issues that were present, and how the collapse played out step by step. Everything was well explained and easy to understand for the average person like myself who doesn't know much about construction.
@nataliedeshow768
@nataliedeshow768 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t watch the news??
@ObtuseMori
@ObtuseMori 2 жыл бұрын
​@@nataliedeshow768 Not frequently, no. Online news is also a thing? Plus not everyone lives in the US and hears about everything that happens over there??
@nataliedeshow768
@nataliedeshow768 2 жыл бұрын
@@ObtuseMori oh, I see. I usually watch the news on tv but I believe I saw this story on the internet first.
@ObtuseMori
@ObtuseMori 2 жыл бұрын
@@nataliedeshow768 haha fair enough. I rarely bother to watch TV, most of what I catch is just in passing when other people have it on. Generally I just glance online to see what's going on in the world, and if anything catches my interest I look into it further. But yeah, definitely don't remember seeing/hearing anything about Champlain Tower until I recently heard a promo for a podcast about it and was intrigued to learn more.
@floridaproductions
@floridaproductions 2 жыл бұрын
The prefect storm.That unleashed a life time of misery for the surviving love ones, family and friends!
@supremelawfirm
@supremelawfirm 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Jeff. I'm thinking back to a remodel we did, many years ago, not too far from a known earthquake fault. Neighbors snickered that we were "over-building", too many nails, too many hurricane ties, too much steel in a major grade beam, and so on. The building inspector even joked by asking how many floors we were planning to erect on that grade beam. After that project was finished, the Loma Prieta quake hit. On close inspection, there was no visible damage to any of the remodeling we had done, not even a single hair-line crack in bathroom tile. The neighbors' snickering stopped, happily. Thanks again for your timely and professional contribution here.
@aaronb7990
@aaronb7990 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about negligence. That place should have been condemned. What's the purpose of an inspection if it doesn't include action for failure? Seems like those reports should have prompted someone to ask the question 'Is this building inhabitable?'.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Miami just condemned and closed a building today
@aaronb7990
@aaronb7990 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff Good to hear, these are the type of things that need oversight to be passed off to a computer system so that people can't be paid off. These reports should not be able to be glossed over with $$$ as, in my opinion, this one was. Who would you fault for allowing such a building to remain occupied after the first survey? Obviously knowing the result makes it hard, but I feel that the inspection company severely understated the condition in their report. It seems like they just wanted to get $$$ to do the repairs and not to raise alarms to the hazards that they found.
@deek64dk
@deek64dk 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff We live in Deland but my daughter has done the 3day rental at acouple different condos beachside in Volusia county. From what I recently heard is that the condos this way arent required to do that 40yr res Is that true???!😱
@scdevon
@scdevon 2 жыл бұрын
Something like: "You have seven days to have crews in there beginning repairs or we're coming for you in handcuffs" This isn't a civil matter. It's a code violation.
@katherinepoltoratzky6068
@katherinepoltoratzky6068 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffostroff Are you speaking in addition to this building or another one?
@user-tb7iz1vf7p
@user-tb7iz1vf7p 2 жыл бұрын
Very detailed. Amazing work.
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@laurag6832
@laurag6832 9 ай бұрын
Extremely detailed and thoughtful analysis, yet easy for a lay person to understand
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@TrenGenius
@TrenGenius 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic how nothing fell in the pool but the corrosion under the pool explained everything.
@marlinguidegun1657
@marlinguidegun1657 2 жыл бұрын
@Joe Kelly The pool was essentially self supported, with the base of it bearing on the ground, and the pool walls were also bearing on the ground, so no real load there. Even if it did cause the collapse due to water, which seems unlikely given the flat deck and the planters (which this video didn't mention, but which collect water), it would have remained intact and it in fact did remain intact.
@nikkishears6402
@nikkishears6402 2 жыл бұрын
If this were true, there'd be thousands of examples of buildings all along the coast collapsing due to saltwater and heat. This clearly wasn't corrosion. The probability that all the steel beams inside the concrete were equally corroded, and gave way at the same time without explosives is statistically impossible. Also, there's no way that natural corrosion would cause the building to be collapsed into tiny pieces of rubble. If this were natural, there would be huge pieces of the building still in tact, even after collapse. There's none of that. The debris of the fallen building is literally dust. Could have been DEW, either way, this didn't occur naturally. People need to wake up. You can see the flashes(explosions) right before the reinforced steel concrete slabs were cut with dynamite or a DEW. @Prairie Pucker said, "personally, I think you're an idiot. But there's gonna be an investigation. If there's wires and thermite, they're gonna find it" Well, personally I think you're as useless as a used an bloody tampon, because they demoed the rest of the building 10 days later. They're going to find wires and thermite, but how can they find the cause of the collapse, when they destroyed the evidence? That's called a cover-up. John Macafee had a residence in the building. This is your government. Wake up.
@xChrisN1975x
@xChrisN1975x 2 жыл бұрын
When you actually pay attention you will see he was simply showing what spalling was. Spalling was likely the cause of the collapse though not it them place he pointed it out.
@xChrisN1975x
@xChrisN1975x 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikkishears6402 Tinfoil hat alert!!!
@davemattia
@davemattia 2 жыл бұрын
The pool had nothing to do with the collapse and the scammer who made this video is making stuff up as he goes along. All pool maintenance companies take pictures when they arrive. Note that the rebar was in the background - not the focus of the photos - but then the pool guys says to himself, "Hey, I can make money selling these pics and be a hero because....." and then the moron who made this video - with zero engineering education - figures that he can make a few grand in ad money from KZfaq - Jeff Ostroff -- only his initials are accurate. JO. This is a conspiracy theory - fake news. It has all the elements of a video that would not be allowed or would be taken down if Trump was still in office. In fact, KZfaq would be pushing videos that blame the structural failure on Trump. Listen Jeff - you money grubbing skunk - the building fell because it was built on sand -- you moron. END OF STORY!
@majfauxpas
@majfauxpas 2 жыл бұрын
No slope, no drainage. Huge design flaw. I’d move out of the other towers if they are the same.
@wende.with.an.e
@wende.with.an.e 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@CorruptInfinityOfficial
@CorruptInfinityOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
They certainly have to have the same engineering flaws, they are likely all designed by the same architect.
@Victoria-rl4cu
@Victoria-rl4cu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Great exposition.
@docjody8624
@docjody8624 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Do you have time to edit to enhance your Cursor? I strain my eyes to see all the various areas where you're pointing, and can't see where you're pointing. HUGE help if you'd take time to edit that in. I've watched this video TWICE and really wish I could see your Cursor-- maybe in red, or blue? Thanks for the best video out there!
@fbella69
@fbella69 2 жыл бұрын
To the lay person - this is SO well presented, plausible, and succinctly explained. You have me convinced that you are 100% on the right track to the root cause of this event. My only question would be is why when all of this erosion was noticed by multiple contactors (pool and 2018 retrofitters) did this not get reported to the city inspectors as an unsafe building to occupy?
@keesnappd4960
@keesnappd4960 2 жыл бұрын
They choose the money over the people. Did you see those homes in that building? This is so sad.
@philllsxga.7737
@philllsxga.7737 2 жыл бұрын
@@keesnappd4960 you hit the nail on the head!! Typical wealthy business criminals...
@michelebartlett3921
@michelebartlett3921 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I am concerned every single person who knew about this & did nothing is responsible for this tragedy
@hannah37458
@hannah37458 2 жыл бұрын
There are interviews that have been given by some residents that survived. Apparently they were notified of damages that would have to be paid for at their expense and preparations were being made. But he said they were not told the severity nor was any real urgency communicated.
@lyngruen8607
@lyngruen8607 2 жыл бұрын
How do we KNOW it wasn't reported? Too much EVIL running rampant in this world......hard to TRUST anyone anymore. Praying for the families effected by this tragedy. It breaks my heart 💔 Texas Nana 🤠 PSALM 91
@harmzero
@harmzero 2 жыл бұрын
This should be mainstream news… amazing “detective engineering”.
@Tommyfrommyspace
@Tommyfrommyspace 2 жыл бұрын
no it should not. we have no proof to support a single claim he makes.
@j.j.3445
@j.j.3445 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommyfrommyspace you're wrong. This is an engeneer! Not a simply guy
@ct92404
@ct92404 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommyfrommyspace I looked at your previous comments...you're one of those nutjob conspiracy theorists. STFU.
@haffords3352
@haffords3352 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommyfrommyspace I agree because he's merely stating an opinion and is going by what other are saying... If he had no dealings with that building, he has no idea what really happened... It's best to let those that will be doing the investigation handle what's what....
@victorsauvage1890
@victorsauvage1890 2 жыл бұрын
@@ct92404 He is teasing - He doesn't really mean what he says - Ignore him.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 жыл бұрын
I deliberately avoided watching any sort of coverage regarding the collapse until people had time to a) pay their respects to those lost and b) gather some facts/evidence as to the cause so I wasn't just watching pure speculation. Then I came looking, and the comments seemed to indicate that this video was the best analysis to date. 2 minutes in, I see the photos of that spalling and the state of that plant room (pumps not bolted down, water everywhere) and hear the commentary, I'm inclined to agree. Thanks for this detailed examination of a preventable tragedy. My sincere condolences to the bereaved.
@HerbOldenburg
@HerbOldenburg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing - May God Bless the people and family's involved and thanks to all the first responders - Devastating disaster - peace
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