MIAMI CONDO COLLAPSE | visualization of the evidence pt2

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Mike Bell

Mike Bell

2 жыл бұрын

This video takes a more detailed look at the collapse of Champlain Towers South condominium building in Surfside, Miami. The 3D modeling is based on the 1979/80 Structural and Architectural drawings made available by the town of Surfside. Using video, eyewitness and photos evidence available so far, I have animated and simulated what happened here as accurately as the clues will inform. I have stabilized the eyewitness video footage for maximum clarity.
I am an Architect with a career in designing and constructing buildings including experience in the USA. I caution that its still too early to know why it collapsed. This reasons for failure are only a suggestion. My analysis has been arrived at from discussions with structural engineers.
Video credit: FIUEEEE the garage ceiling 1 year earlier. • Champlain Tower South ...
TikTok video by Andrianita Castillero vm.tiktok.com/ZSJtpJPyf/
Resources:
Surfside Public Records - Champlain Towers S surfside.one/public-records-s...
For a timeline of Witness Statements docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Where condo victims were located whatsnew2day.com/where-miami-...
Animated in Blender
Music by Borrtex. Tracks: Snowflake, There is always a reason, Changing
Narration by Matthew Bell

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@sanseverything900
@sanseverything900 2 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder who else heard the 'loud construction noises' minutes before the fatal collapse but didn't get the chance to escape in time. So tragic.
@straighttalksucks5161
@straighttalksucks5161 2 жыл бұрын
They seemed to have chosen to stay because they where used to it
@reviewiaid6432
@reviewiaid6432 2 жыл бұрын
there are empty 911 call assumed coming from someone in the buildings. There were also calls from a wife to her husband before it collapsed too. but they didn't know they only had less than 5 mins to get out
@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just sorry that no one thought to simply yank the fire alarm. There were people telling a security guard, people going door to door knocking, and someone going on the PA (in English and Spanish) telling them to evacuate - but no one simply pulled the fire alarm, as far as we know. Those modern alarms can be heard even by deaf people, that's how obnoxious they are.
@MrMJmusicLover
@MrMJmusicLover 2 жыл бұрын
@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 The fire alarm was pulled......1:16am
@michaelmymichael9106
@michaelmymichael9106 2 жыл бұрын
@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 In many high rises, residents are told not to evacuate during a fire alarm. In one where I lived, they would evacuate the floor of a fire and the floor above it, and everyone else is expected to stay in their units. The reason is two-fold. First, they don’t want to clog the stairwells with evacuees, since firefighters need to use the same stairs to fight the fire. Second, if everyone tries to evacuate at the same time, all the open stairwell doors will create a chimney effect, drawing smoke up from the floor that has the fire - resulting in many residents needlessly suffering from smoke inhalation. All of this is based on the idea that high rises are designed to be fireproof. A fire in one unit is expected to affect just that unit, and possibly adjacent units, but that’s it. Once all flammable materials in the first unit have burned, the fire is expected to die from fuel starvation.
@1973funluvingirl
@1973funluvingirl 2 жыл бұрын
Singularly the best representation. Taking on board witness statements and events for a full overlay of timeline. Definitely those ground floor units were key witnesses to either longer term issues (cracking issues) and the events of the night. My heart goes out to the little girl who experienced her bathroom ceiling cracking and had the foresight go grab sibling and run to mum at reception desk. Excellent work.
@soundmiami
@soundmiami 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but they have been building on the beach here since the 20’s and with a lot sketchier construction techniques than Champlain (they used to wash the beach sand to make the concrete! ) and nothing like this has ever happened without years of visible warning. The corrosion and spalling in key components become evident long before failure. While this building knew it had problems, it’s hardly unique as an association not being on top of it’s waterproofing. And that’s the scary part about living on the beach in older buildings now…not knowing if is this the Canary in the mine shaft or a one-off event with a yet unknown trigger. Unlike 911, experts deconstructing what failed in due time, here is a huge safety and financial incentive for urgency.
@rahla53
@rahla53 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I did not hear that story about the girl in the bathroom, wow- :>(
@goldenmercury5930
@goldenmercury5930 2 жыл бұрын
Someone said it was a sinkhole that was causing this cracks and collapse overtime. This is sad.
@maud2739
@maud2739 2 жыл бұрын
If you check the timeline up in the Notes, you will get an accurate understanding of what the collapse survivors saw, heard, and experienced. For example, no one on the first floor reported a crack in the ceiling but rather a loud crash that sounded to them like a wall falling down. The occupant of 611 saw a crack forming in her living room and evacuated in time to survive.
@AyeCarumba221
@AyeCarumba221 Жыл бұрын
I had not seen this simulation until A year after it was posted. Excellent graphic display on the chronology of events.
@GYT923
@GYT923 2 жыл бұрын
I work for a surveying company and my main job with them is to perform dilapidation reports on buildings that surround new development sites. If a new building is about to be built, it's law where I am from that you have to hire a surveying company to investigate and photograph every inch of every surrounding property and record pre-existing damage in case ground works from the new site cause vibrations which in turn cause any damage, I will be the one who will have recorded whether the damage caused was pre-existing or caused by the new development.... So needless to say, I've seen every inch of hundreds of parking garages, staircases, and the internals of every apartment in those buildings over the last few years.... And I've seen waaayyyyy worse than the water damage in the video from a year before the collapse. It's scary to know this is probably going to become more common as buildings progressively get taller and fancier, but completed with shortcuts and cheap materials to build them faster and for less. They look all nice and fancy when they're completed but after 15-20 years, they'll look like they're 70-80 years old in terms of depreciation and damaged caused by a mixture of poor designs and shoddy builders/developers. I've seen entire support columns of high rises cracking with efflorescence caused by leaking pools on the ground level. Entire slabs cracked in two, with cracks large enough I can see the warped re-enforced steel inside it. Sagging cement that separates the ground floor from the basement... among other things. We always inform the building managers, body corporates and councils when we find damage to areas that could put the structural integrity of the building at risk one day, but it's always shrugged off. No one seems to care until the worst case scenario happens. With some of the things I've seen, I'd never live in an apartment block taller than a few stories.
@maud2739
@maud2739 2 жыл бұрын
Very good advice.
@may7993
@may7993 2 жыл бұрын
Holy sh**!!!! Your comment will undoubtedly haunt me for life now, but I’m glad I read it. Thank you 🙏🏻
@trippybruh1592
@trippybruh1592 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight I'll take your word for it and stick with houses, thanks.
@retinaquester
@retinaquester 2 жыл бұрын
I have no building construction experience, but from looking to the spikes, (You refer to as colums). On first sight they seem very small for such a heavy construction.
@jamelao123
@jamelao123 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can you help with that: can you tell me if it is possible to say it is safe to stay living in an apartment with some "scars" on the wall and on the ceiling, just by giving a glance at them? =/
@Poatatero
@Poatatero 2 жыл бұрын
I feel terrible for those on the isolated portion that collapsed. It gave just enough time to figure something was wrong before the floor came out from bellow you
@mariandown2327
@mariandown2327 2 жыл бұрын
@angel are you dumb? What kind of question is that?
@bosscascade5566
@bosscascade5566 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariandown2327 probably just some troll bot
@jltaco85
@jltaco85 2 жыл бұрын
@angel What's wrong with crying like a baby?
@MrNunya-lp9eo
@MrNunya-lp9eo 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! Must have really sucked.
@svasianfilipiname6603
@svasianfilipiname6603 2 жыл бұрын
Or the ceiling falling on you. 😞
@Kathleen-gl5wh
@Kathleen-gl5wh 2 жыл бұрын
The ceiling damage one year prior to collapse is shocking
@EndreaiYT
@EndreaiYT 2 жыл бұрын
It looks so similar to the Singapore Building Collapse
@miked3168
@miked3168 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you deregulate things. Disasters are bound to happen
@Sigrafix
@Sigrafix 2 жыл бұрын
@@miked3168 I don't think this was due to deregulation.. the building had been inspected and was set to be repaired but everything was postponed due to the lockdowns and the shortages of labor and supplies.. There was an engineering firm that was aware of the issues but it would seem they failed to emphasize the urgency of the matter and they're probably going to be held liable for this disaster going forward.
@m2svirtual384
@m2svirtual384 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sigrafix Supply and labor shortages are not valid excuses to allow living things to continue existing in harm's way. Even if a forced evacuation wasn't done, the residents there deserved the truth about their possible demise in a cataclysmic event, and they received no such dire warnings that could be paid attention to, or blown off as exaggeration. When information is withheld that might have saved lives, then there are far more culpable here than just the construction company and engineers. Indeed Lucy, that ceiling video footage raises the hair on my arms, as it probably does to anyone who has seen water damage like that. You know that trained eyes saw that and voiced the possibility, and someone higher up attached to money told them to shut up - they were working on it, no need to cause a panic. I don't think it was deregulation either Sig, it was greedy owners who wanted to continue collecting rent. And that's all. Why those people were allowed to stay there until their death is the easiest part of this to explain.
@oforkya
@oforkya 2 жыл бұрын
It look scary.
@mchapman132
@mchapman132 2 жыл бұрын
Those who were awake probably said “what the hell is that?” Sadly, not enough time to process the noise and escape.
@booaks2980
@booaks2980 2 жыл бұрын
Same as 9/11
@petero2693
@petero2693 2 жыл бұрын
No they thought...sheet we should hold have paid the dues to fix the building... ahhhhhhhhh...
@mchapman132
@mchapman132 2 жыл бұрын
@@booaks2980 I’m a New Yorker, our family lost a few people were knew on 9-11. No trace of them was ever found. Horrible. For the first several years, we’d agonize on what their final moments were…was it quick, did they suffer? It’s a heartache. It can drive you crazy. I pray for the families in this tragedy to find peace.
@louern123
@louern123 2 жыл бұрын
@@mchapman132 💔💔💔
@unitedwestand5100
@unitedwestand5100 2 жыл бұрын
30 or 40 years wasn't enough? There were complaints in the 80s about problems with this building. Once there was even a television special about the problems. This was a preventable tragedy.
@scottsmith7051
@scottsmith7051 2 жыл бұрын
Every building along that coastline needs an absolute fine comb inspection.
@chase4671
@chase4671 2 жыл бұрын
Ron DeSantis the Republican Governor is blocking inspections for these buildings
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 2 жыл бұрын
@@chase4671 Completely false
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 2 жыл бұрын
@@chase4671 Totally false. The owners are blocking it.
@leoverran311
@leoverran311 2 жыл бұрын
You know all Republicans want buildings to fall and people to die so that makes complete sense, pretty sure Trump has arranged a couple of his buildings to come down
@deantonto1615
@deantonto1615 2 жыл бұрын
They have a certain type of x-ray that looks into the concrete. But truth is noone will be honest about the true foundations stability and shortcuts that they took to save money during this project.they can use concrete samples from each building but truth is we can't really tell until it is too late.me personally I think they should have used more rebar and larger bars at that
@dratelectasis
@dratelectasis 2 жыл бұрын
I live a mile away from this building. I remember being awake that night and hearing a LOUD ass noise that sounded like an explosion. Heartbreaking for all of us in the Miami area
@ohnemar4285
@ohnemar4285 2 жыл бұрын
Who was living there who knew something he shouldn't know?
@babalon1919
@babalon1919 2 жыл бұрын
Should be a sobering warning, too. Or, iow...gtfo!
@MrDino-hp7fy
@MrDino-hp7fy 2 ай бұрын
​@@ohnemar4285nobody
@karlozlopez8535
@karlozlopez8535 2 жыл бұрын
Best video about the disaster better than the other people that have like 10 videos about the same topic but don't explain as well as this one , masterpiece
@tbrech8625
@tbrech8625 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I asked a Florida P.E. who is very familiar with building codes to look at the video. He mentioned that cold joint on the pool deck as being very problematic. He said you had done an excellent analysis. Thank you for such a well done effort.
@almacuevas4380
@almacuevas4380 2 жыл бұрын
I saw better explain every little thing even they have the blueprint from that complex
@Rhythmicons
@Rhythmicons 2 жыл бұрын
Building Integrity, hands-down, has the best videos on this subject. For example, I disagree with the author of this video when he said that the collapse came with little warning. They were warned in 2018, they saw the garage every day.
@chrish5503
@chrish5503 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts to all of the victim's families - If you're watching this, we're all very sorry for you and wish you the best.
@allurekushgoddess5103
@allurekushgoddess5103 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@rickgeller6043
@rickgeller6043 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts? Yeah that will work.
@-._.-KRiS-._.-
@-._.-KRiS-._.- 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickgeller6043 It's the same thing as prayer. It's okay to think positively of others. Not all of us have to be dud-heads trying ruin a nice sentiment.
@-._.-KRiS-._.-
@-._.-KRiS-._.- 2 жыл бұрын
@Randy Carriere What are you on about?
@simp2234
@simp2234 2 жыл бұрын
laughing at china look at u can't save no body shameful freedom
@SAMUGOPOO
@SAMUGOPOO 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't imagine waking up in the last part that collapsed, just laying in your bed while the building sways from side to side, then boom collapse. What a horrible way to go out. RIP 🙏
@Animalwon
@Animalwon 2 жыл бұрын
Strange you brought it up but according to TV news reports most of the victims (remains) were found in bed. Basically they were crushed to death in their sleep.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 2 жыл бұрын
@@Animalwon When the security camera video was reviewed frame by frame on another KZfaq channel, it was evident some residents in those apartments woke up because lights turned on in two or three apartments for a few seconds and then the entire thing came down. Absolutely horrific.
@DaftPunkSkittle
@DaftPunkSkittle 2 жыл бұрын
@@LakeNipissing can you link it or tell me the name of the youtuber
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaftPunkSkittle JeffOstroff ... he did a frame by frame analysis of the security camera view of the collapse from the adjacent building, the tourist video of the parking garage collapse and the "Ring Camera" recording from apartment 711. The lights are seen turning on in some of the windows seconds before the east side of the structure collapsed... very disturbing to watch... I wouldn't go out of the way to find the video.
@DaftPunkSkittle
@DaftPunkSkittle 2 жыл бұрын
@@LakeNipissing I looked for it myself and I stumble upon that youtube channel but I didnt find that video, it has of 30 min videos regarding the topic. Saw the ring camera one but I didnt see any part where the lights are turning on
@frankj.vargasjr.3541
@frankj.vargasjr.3541 2 жыл бұрын
I practiced architecture for 35 and have considerable experience in concrete and steel construction, having worked in many projects designing structural solutions in concert with structural, mechanical, and civil engineers. I have not heard yet any comments to this effect, but if the video is correct (and I've seen this before on another video), it is inconceivable to me that the structure for the pool deck was connected directly to the structural columns of the building. Those should have been designed as two separate structural systems from day one. In the underground garage there would have been two sets of columns side by side along the outline of the building above. Two different structures, with different loads, and different horizontal and vertical forces. I would have never, ever, designed anything like that, nor would I have approved such a design if presented to me. I hope to hear about this from those investigating the cause for the collapse.
@glenembrey1187
@glenembrey1187 Жыл бұрын
I'm no engineer but I agree.. have seen a few videos on this collapse and cannot understand how the pool deck used the same columns along the deck side as the actual tower itself. How did this ever get approved and built? Makes no sense to me. I have been in a few high rises with decks above garages, etc. and I have seen columns side by side, 1 for the building and the other for the deck. Completely separate supports. I recently watched a video of the other Champlain tower where they are adding supports in the garage until repairs can be done. It looks as if the north tower is built exactly the same way. I would be hi-tailing it out of there if I was a resident for sure. I wonder if we will ever know what the actual cause of this collapse was. In this day and age things like this just should not happen.
@designstudio8013
@designstudio8013 Жыл бұрын
@@glenembrey1187 Approved because of building dept. corruption and ineptitude.
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 2 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that south Florida is full of these ticking time bombs.
@logans6619
@logans6619 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking the same thing. A lot of cheaply made, aging structures in that climate.
@tek1645
@tek1645 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap properties for a reason
@tek1645
@tek1645 2 жыл бұрын
Democrats would save the day!
@arielvillalobos5136
@arielvillalobos5136 2 жыл бұрын
@Overpowered by Funk. As if California’s and New York governors are any better
@socman3988
@socman3988 2 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from corrupt Republican officials!!! But I guess they never learn do they !!
@mandoreforger6999
@mandoreforger6999 2 жыл бұрын
The narration is mesmerizing and haunting in a way. Very appropriate.
@davetuscano5939
@davetuscano5939 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a robot voice.
@mikeingersoll7344
@mikeingersoll7344 2 жыл бұрын
Archer
@louern123
@louern123 2 жыл бұрын
I agree , he also sounds very empathetic
@pantherowow77
@pantherowow77 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds like he doesn't care
@consumer1843
@consumer1843 2 жыл бұрын
It's an engineering/scientific narration.
@hefzi-babeula8631
@hefzi-babeula8631 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the anxiety of many living in that area after this😟
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 2 жыл бұрын
At least the people in the West building may get oceanfront view now?
@AngryFishh
@AngryFishh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow__133 #worthit
@RichardMusiol
@RichardMusiol 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow__133 This my friend is how conspiracy theories start.
@hefzi-babeula8631
@hefzi-babeula8631 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow__133 imagine craziness at that level 😳to be honest I believe that and more out of humans🤪
@_f4lk0n_
@_f4lk0n_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow__133 are you seriously joking about this right now? I bet you would't dare to say that out loud, cause you know you'd get punch in the face
@chromebook2447
@chromebook2447 2 жыл бұрын
My condolences go out to the families of the victims and everyone affected by this tragedy!
@ZenkaiAnkoku2
@ZenkaiAnkoku2 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you represented this disaster. No fanfair or exciting theories. Just the most likely scenario presented in a respectful way. With quality animations, explanations, and narration.
@scottpodgorski4102
@scottpodgorski4102 2 жыл бұрын
It's a lie. I have video that shows the explosions . This was brought down purposely.
@ZenkaiAnkoku2
@ZenkaiAnkoku2 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottpodgorski4102 Can we see it?
@CessnaPilot99
@CessnaPilot99 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottpodgorski4102 you poor poor person. You must be tormented inside. Please get the help you need. It's not too late Scott
@danielbenitez6985
@danielbenitez6985 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, captain obvious
@judithrivera3385
@judithrivera3385 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottpodgorski4102 thank you. I believe you and you are smart enough.
@tigrotom7312
@tigrotom7312 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation on what happened at Champlain Towers, one of the best I have seen.
@hellen70666666
@hellen70666666 2 жыл бұрын
....Yep, And Presentations Like This, Look like they would Take Hours and Hours to Do, too....!!!!...Bravo for Sharing your Time with Folks you do Not even Know....!!!
@jackgoff4859
@jackgoff4859 2 жыл бұрын
Except it's wrong because the cars dropped before the pool deck.
@kineahora8736
@kineahora8736 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackgoff4859 yeah I forgot that issue as well as the other errors here-there is some controversy as to the sequence of the sections of the pool deck failure, but I think you are right: the family that escaped said they saw the cars collapse down into the garage: their patio is immediately adjacent to other areas that subsequently collapsed and they would have noticed if that went down first… It’s really confusing for some people,to call the initially-collapsing structure the “pool deck”-it really should be called the “ground-level slab”-because it constitutes the entire structure that includes the area around the pool (“pool deck”), the covered visitor parking (the part we think collapsed first based on the eyewitness account of the son of that family living on the ground floor that escaped), and the roof of the underground garage.
@Tamesis66
@Tamesis66 2 жыл бұрын
@@kineahora8736 The narrator said at the beginning that they tried to be as accurate as possible but with some info still missing or pending, they had to guesstimate in some instances. So it was already stated it might not be totally accurate. I think the animation was top-notch though! Very good graphics.
@julief634
@julief634 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackgoff4859 I was confused about that one, first I thought was the pool because Cassondra in #410 (Bless her soul, RIP) said to her husband there is a sinkhole in the pool, but I think what she saw was the ground going down from the columns collapsing in the garage which is what made the cars drop first. it may have looked from her perspective view the pool deck went down in to a sinkhole, when in fact it was the ground and cars dropping first.
@dianeruiz0721
@dianeruiz0721 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work of the representation on what probably happened. Your 3-D rendering makes it real easy to understand and see the horrifying tragedy. Thank you for your hard work.
@katherineuribe2952
@katherineuribe2952 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace all the souls lost in this tragedy.
@Jingleball7734
@Jingleball7734 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏽🙏🏽
@opalmarie8466
@opalmarie8466 2 жыл бұрын
And I hope anyone who witnessed it, lost people or survived is getting the help they need to recover from their traumas 🙏🏽
@aday1637
@aday1637 2 жыл бұрын
Nice computer simulation. A month later and the shock and horror of this event still ring loud. The cause of failure source is essential for so many people. Not just the loved ones but the other condo dwellers in that area specifically want and need to know so they may take appropriate action as necessary.
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 жыл бұрын
There are immediate engineering factors then there are philosophical factors: "Not my yob, mon" as it were. If we cure the philosophy -- and the Lord is leaning near hoping for open ears -- this will bring due attention upon the quality of engineering of the edifices we have chosen to depend upon. The concern is as old as Leviticus. To restate in modern terms: if your roof is accessible as a living space then it had better have a wall for safety's sake or the blood of accident victims is on you. Also Jesus the carpenter spoke of the necessity of a good foundation as a spiritual metaphor whose physical illustration would have been obvious at the time. This won't be cheap or easy to fix. Many engineering sins have been buried to more or less quietly emerge later. Perhaps sonic and strain sensors will prove necessary. An evacuation would stink, but not as much as an unwarned collapse.
@cryptfire3158
@cryptfire3158 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 You'd probably agree with me. My advice for people in general, is to look for security from the "rock of ages" and build your house on a firm foundation. (2 Corinthians 4:18) "While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."
@nelidefatimaferreirafontou7306
@nelidefatimaferreirafontou7306 2 жыл бұрын
McAfee ??? 🤔🤔🤔
@garym444
@garym444 2 жыл бұрын
what deeply saddens me is only 3 people it seems had advance warning not knowing what was going to happen...and the other ones didn't stand a chance to survive. I hope they went fast.....😔😔
@JohnnyAngel8
@JohnnyAngel8 2 жыл бұрын
The coroner's office released a statement that, based on the evidence, nobody survived the collapse.
@sherribrawn3757
@sherribrawn3757 2 жыл бұрын
I often have visions of a lot of those victims hearing the initial collapse, and going out to their windows/balconies to see what was going on only to witness the entire section collapse under them.... Uggghhh it's just heartbreaking to say the least....
@julief634
@julief634 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyAngel8 3 people did survive. The first one was a teenager boy pulled out of the rubble. The next two were the Gonzalez family, The mother and daughter fell from apt #904 but where they were in their apartments saved them because they fell on rubble that broke their fall, so they fell from 9th to the 5th floor, the rubble from the floors below cushioned the fall, they survived and their cat Binx also survived. The mother has a broken hip and daughter broke some bones I think, but they are okay, Sad though their father Edgar died with their dog Daisy. Some pets of theirs are still missing. The rest that survived got out after part of the building collapsed from the still standing portion.
@JohnnyAngel8
@JohnnyAngel8 2 жыл бұрын
@@julief634 Right. Correction - those who died did so immediately.
@garym444
@garym444 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyAngel8 yes. I read that. I hope they weren't trapped and suffered.
@Glitch-nr9ct
@Glitch-nr9ct 2 жыл бұрын
First and foremost deepest love to all effected by this horrific tragedy. Secondly, huge respect and admiration for what must have been literally hundreds of hours of work and research putting this absolutely spectacular presentation together. As a contractor in the construction industry here in the Balt/DC area, can I just share my extreme concern at the countless number of bridges and overpasses I see on a weekly basis that have massive chunks of concrete having fallen away exposing rusted rebar and long stress cracks that run up entire support columns. Not even joking, this is everywhere and that's why infrastructure is such a huge topic on Capital Hill right now. We cannot continue to ignore these things.
@Jhoto
@Jhoto 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the hospital, i was in an accident that almost took my life, the car missed the drivers side do by inches. Im on the bed and i receive a phone call, my childhood bestfriend, hes sobbing. I couldnt understand what he was saying to me. " she never showed up to work", i still didnt understand. " she was in the building and didnt show up to work". It was still unclear. He is able to control himself, and tells me our childhood friend was in the collapse and she is nowhere to be seen. I couldnt believe it. I called my mother and she began sobbing. Its hard to answer why these things happen to the best people. Ill never have an answer for it. Only thing i learned from this was to forgive and enjoy. Forgive your parents, your enemies, your exes, your children. And enjoy the sun, the laughs, the smiles, enjoy traffic, enjoy being sick, enjoy.
@MiamiSpartan1
@MiamiSpartan1 2 жыл бұрын
So sad. I drove past this building every day for 10 years.
@cicefashion4685
@cicefashion4685 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought about the earthquake that was felt in Miami a couple years ago. Was this area impacted any by this? I wonder if the earthquake worsened the state of this building.
@JoseRamos-mv2ty
@JoseRamos-mv2ty 2 жыл бұрын
Lier
@NawrasEpicDuel
@NawrasEpicDuel 2 жыл бұрын
@@cicefashion4685 This building was in good condition vs Lateral loading conditions (hurricanes/earthquake loads) as their shear walls proved to be functioning well (they were the reason why the 2nd collapse was delayed and why the other part of the building didn't fall down). So, no i doubt earthquakes had anything to do with this collapse. In case you are wondering, yeah shear walls are the main elements that resist lateral loads.
@Wag2112
@Wag2112 2 жыл бұрын
@@cicefashion4685 Do you mean the Haiti Quake ?? There are quakes that happen south of florida, but I haven't seen that any were close to southern florida as an epicenter. Dutchsinse is a great source for quake news. ( just dont tell the USGS ) :) I have another "watcher" in the house here who agrees - there was a minor quake in florida within the last few years , between Tallahassee and the Gulf coast, she says below 2.1 so, it most likely did not affect this structure at all.
@Wag2112
@Wag2112 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, were you there for Hurr. Andrew?? I could see that starting the corrosion if the basement flooded.
@Logicsimple
@Logicsimple 2 жыл бұрын
It's a respectful well done job, focused on the facts, as it should.
@tmilesffl
@tmilesffl 2 жыл бұрын
Since the investigation has not been completed then there are NO FACTS, yet, other than the building came down. This is just another OPINION.
@edwelndiobel1567
@edwelndiobel1567 2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean "respectful"?
@cllc9722
@cllc9722 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE WORLD AND ESPECIALLY AMERICANS HAVE LEARNED IS THAT THE EXPENSIVE HOUSING STRUCTURES BEING BUILT IS CHEAPY AND AMERICAN HOUSING CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND DEVELOPERS ARE CUTTING CORNERS WHILE SELLING THEIR HOUSING FOR TOP DOLLAR IN OTHER WORDS AMERICANS ARE GETTING RIIPPED OFF AND EVEN GETTING KILLED IN AMERICAN BUILT STRUCTURES AND IF YOUR SO CALLED LUCKY IF YOU WALK AWAY ALIVE, HOMELESS AND BROKE. AMERICANS DONT FORGET YOUR HISTORY WHEN A TIME AGO BUILDING STRUCTURES WHERE BUILT TO TAKE IT AND KEEP ON TICKING A GREAT EXAMPLE THE JEWEL OF NEW YORK CITY THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING IN JULY 28 OF 1945 IT WAS HIT BY A B-25 US MILLITARY BOMBER AND IT'S STILL STANDING THERE. PRESENT DAY 911 THE BOTH OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTERS BUILDINGS TOTALLY DESTROYED, WE NOW HAVE MORE THAN EVER MORE HURRICANES, FLOODS, TORNADOS, FIRES, EARTH QUAKES ETC... DESTROYING AMERICAN HOMES INCLUDING WHAT ARE CALLED CARD BOARD HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ANIALATED ALONG WITH THE SMALLER HOMES. A TOTAL OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROPERTY WORTH DESTROYED EVERY YEAR NOW ACROSS AMERICA AND TO THINK THAT OVER MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHERE DISPLACED BY GREEDY REAL ESTATE DEALERS, PROPERTY DEVELOPERS, REAL ESTATE INVESTORS, GREEDY LANDLORDS. PLUS ADDING TO THE MIX HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES, HIGHER MAINTENANCES, HIGHER COST OF LIVING AND CRIME RISING ALL A ROUND US BESIDES INFECTING US FOR PROFITS ITS HAS CREATED A GROWING GROUP OF NOMADS, TINY HOUSE MOVEMENT, PEOPLE EVEN LIVING IN THEIR CARS FLEEING ALL THIS CAUSE THEY ARE BEING RIPPED OFF AND NOW THIS. DUE TO GREED IT HAS AND IS NOW COSTING LIVES MORE THAN EVER. A SHELTER'S JOB IS TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HARM NOT LEAVE YOU OPEN TO HARM AND DEATH.
@jcardozo1349
@jcardozo1349 2 жыл бұрын
@@cllc9722 what are you talking about? Builders cutting corners?!? America has one of the strictest building codes in the world… One building collapses out of millions and your blaming our infrastructure?!? This case is more of a building being neglected of proper structural maintenance….
@MotoSnax
@MotoSnax 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the presentation. Years ago, in 2008, we stayed in the building next to it (from where the CCTV footage came) when it was Howard Johnson Dezerland Beach & Spa (they demolished it and replaced it with another building). So somehow this feels closer to home than just a building collapse in some city because I know the area. I'm so sorry for all the people that lost their lives in this and their families.
@h.ar.2937
@h.ar.2937 2 жыл бұрын
All the engineers involved in this project are shitting bricks right now trying to prove they’re not to be blamed
@neberboi
@neberboi 2 жыл бұрын
Haha bricks.
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll see if they even are held responsible. It’s not like the government is forcing the other buildings built by the same company to be fixed immediately.
@AlexanderSimic
@AlexanderSimic 2 жыл бұрын
this thing was built 40 years ago they are probably old grandpapas right now or dead
@romanfields7900
@romanfields7900 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like lack of maintenance to me. If you don’t protect your foundation then don’t be surprised when the roof falls on your head.
@gothenmosph5151
@gothenmosph5151 2 жыл бұрын
Building was finished 40 years ago. Probably took a few years for construction and plans were probably finalized a couple years before that. So a 35 year old architect or engineer (who'd be really young to be a lead designer on something this large)would be 80 now. So they'd most likely be dead or too infirm to stand trial in 5+ years. And after 40 years it's going to be hard to prove it was merely bad design. Something that lasts 40 years generally fails due to old age or poor matinance. Not to mention this has to be signed off by buildimgnauthorities and inspectors are there all the time so if it was an amatuer design it should've been caught before the building was started, let alone completed. My guess? A lazy contractor probably screwed something up and that combined with poor matinance and being next to the ocean did it in.
@anrojoo
@anrojoo 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and animation. This is most likely what happened, and it always breaks my heart knowing that people had about 8 minutes to get out safely, had it happened during the day and not when everyone was likely asleep and couldnt even hear the loud noise of the pool deck collapsing.
@AkSonya1010
@AkSonya1010 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me so sad to think how many people saw that damage in the garage and didn't pull the fire alarm. I fully understand people panic they don't think but man, those 7 minutes could have saved a lot of lives.
@rosealmeida6820
@rosealmeida6820 2 жыл бұрын
But who would of thought the buildings was going to come down
@julybailey4239
@julybailey4239 2 жыл бұрын
I also can't help but wonder if many of the people did actually try to get down and possibly went down the wrong stairway that collapsed. Could have been 40 or 50 people all running together in a pile. It would explain why bodies were found later because most were towards the bottom of the pile meaning they made it close to getting out. It would also explain why so many people took weeks to identify their DNA. Had they have been in their respective beds sleeping with their spouses they should have identified the husband's and wives the same day, yet a husband was identified a week after his wife's body. People probably running for their lives on top of one another trying to escape. The one lady survived because she took the furthest stairwell not knowing there was one closer to her unit. It saved her life. This makes the story so much more tragic. Otherwise in the 7 minutes I think more people would have been on their phones 911 or calling friends and family yet very few calls. Probably because they were in the stairwells in a hurry...running...
@Mr.Thermistor7228
@Mr.Thermistor7228 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosealmeida6820 exactly, you cant say even if you did see the garage collapse you would have gotten out. some would sure but some definitely would have just stayed put in their rooms
@djnoneofyourbusiness525
@djnoneofyourbusiness525 2 жыл бұрын
It makes you wonder, if this happened during the day when more people were awake and aware/ or not home- there might not have been as many deaths.
@peaches44
@peaches44 2 жыл бұрын
I heard someone say the temperature dropped during the night which caused the metals to react. Heartbreaking 😞
@Emunah13819
@Emunah13819 2 жыл бұрын
If only...😞
@Proverbs--tx6yr
@Proverbs--tx6yr 2 жыл бұрын
And how many more would have suffered by being wide awake during that moment...it was the best scenario for such a travesty in my opinion ✝️💔
@wraynephew6838
@wraynephew6838 2 жыл бұрын
@@Proverbs--tx6yr There would of been suffering either way. I am convinced a lot of people died while trapped in the rubble for days.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 2 жыл бұрын
@@wraynephew6838 Horrible to think about. Makes you wonder if the rescue response was all it should have been.
@TheRuthyc
@TheRuthyc 2 жыл бұрын
I am amazed and impressed by your ability to put together this animation sequence so clearly, so that we can understand it. Surely it will help builders and architects in the future to make sure this never happens again. Why didn't anyone pay attention to the clues that this building was in danger of collapse? How horrific for those poor people and their pets.
@lightbulb1982
@lightbulb1982 2 жыл бұрын
This is no engineered reason of explanation. This is just some kid in his basement coming to his own theories to make it look good. Most of the information on YT is just some made up opinion like this one...
@staciasmith5162
@staciasmith5162 2 жыл бұрын
Repairs cost money, and they were looking at a lot of repairs.
@thorlancaster5641
@thorlancaster5641 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightbulb1982 This guy did more engineering in a month than you have in your entire life. He said it was just a theory and his answer seems pretty logical based on my experiences building with dominoes.
@hannahblurp9360
@hannahblurp9360 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I didn't realize how the garage fell in minutes before the building fell. Very informative
@jennteal5265
@jennteal5265 2 жыл бұрын
The spalling of the concrete and following damage to the rebar was absolutely shocking prior to the collapse. Building Integrity does an excellent job with the finer details of the physics of how this all appears to have happened. I highly suggest his channel.
@harmstrongg
@harmstrongg 2 жыл бұрын
Great referral, thanks
@Demonoidph
@Demonoidph 2 жыл бұрын
RIP all who were lost and affected during this sad event. 🙏
@elizabethharper9208
@elizabethharper9208 2 жыл бұрын
TYSM for making this video. I can now clearly understand what happened. For the record, we native Floridians have been waiting for just such an unfortunate event. I have zero family and friends that would live in a condo on the Florida beaches. Absolutely horrific event. My heart goes out to the loved ones left behind and the ones who lived to tell the story and yet lost their homes as well. Major props to every single rescue worker involved.
@QueenCoCoaMocha
@QueenCoCoaMocha 2 жыл бұрын
This piece should be used as part of the investigations. I wouldn't be surprised if they already watched this well put together 🙏🏾
@saramae9878
@saramae9878 2 жыл бұрын
It's mind boggling that the obvious damage that existed for a long time before the collapse was apparently ignored by those in charge of the safety of the residents.
@invaderjoshua6280
@invaderjoshua6280 2 жыл бұрын
My wife and I are buying a house as soon as possible. These rentals can’t be trusted.
@AlphaSquadZero
@AlphaSquadZero 2 жыл бұрын
The last contractor who had inspected the building's foundation reported it as "damaged, but repairs are sufficient" to the building's managers
@DGTelevsionNetwork
@DGTelevsionNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@invaderjoshua6280 good luck, single family homes are built with even LESS building code standards. Some of them are built in less than a week with unskilled illegal labor. Best thing would be to go manufactured home route and oversee the entire construction.
@TheMapleKitKat
@TheMapleKitKat 2 жыл бұрын
@@DGTelevsionNetwork yea i doubt he has about a million to just blow on that.
@etainafuzz
@etainafuzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMapleKitKat Overseeing your own new build doesn't necessarily cost a million. I know people who have purchased land and built amazing houses in highly desirable areas of the US for around $400k - $500k. It's actually cheaper in some states to build your own home.
@johncoil1418
@johncoil1418 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have presented a very logical and well thought out scenario of the failure. I think we will find that the pool deck slab was significantly overloaded by the addition of built up fill slabs to obtain slope for drainage the setting bed and pavers and the loads from the planters, which the original structural engineer did not provide for. Note that the pool deck slab was only 9 1/2 inches thick with a max. span of 29 feet. Based on 50 years of structural engineering experience it should have been at least 2 inches thicker or should have incorporated at least 4 inch deep drop panels at the columns. Great job with the simulation.
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 2 жыл бұрын
Making those planters part of the pool deck was a bad idea. If they hadn't done that and used individual planters you buy in a store that would hold the water (no holes on the bottom), that may have helped to keep the water from constantly flowing into the basement garage/ceiling.
@FREEDMFTR
@FREEDMFTR 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Animation and info presented was spot on and your efforts putting this together deserves high praise 🙏🏻
@CC-si3cr
@CC-si3cr 2 жыл бұрын
That was amazing! I had no idea the other tower was demolished and the site of the former Surfside condo was cleared. Your 3D rendering was what I have been waiting on to give me some sort of explanation how this building could've fallen. Well done!!
@tonyyero7231
@tonyyero7231 2 жыл бұрын
Lived in that area back in 1993. Even then so many of those highrises looked so old and in need of repair. Not to mention they are way too close to the ocean!
@tbrech8625
@tbrech8625 2 жыл бұрын
Ideally, barrier islands should be left uninhabited. When this is done, the mainland is usually better protected from storm surge and other shifts in currents. But beach front property means $$$. Stacking homes makes for more $$$, too and better views. I’d rather see bird rookeries, tortoise nests and a beach without buildings cluttering it. But the view of the sea calls to many.
@TopShot501st
@TopShot501st 2 жыл бұрын
But dat view tho...
@firefeethok_tui2355
@firefeethok_tui2355 2 жыл бұрын
So very sad. I still think of all the people in that building how terrified they must’ve been and how quick it was.
@69-avec-ta-soeur
@69-avec-ta-soeur 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm 🤔, actually, no, you don't give a s*** about these people, you write it just to feel good.
@lannguyen-pu1db
@lannguyen-pu1db 2 жыл бұрын
There will be haunting in that area for years to come.
@intelsilver
@intelsilver 2 жыл бұрын
@@69-avec-ta-soeur Nice projection
@Us3r739
@Us3r739 2 жыл бұрын
Pancakes for breakfast, what’s the special seasoning for today? Freshly crushed concrete👌🏼👌🏼
@_f4lk0n_
@_f4lk0n_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@69-avec-ta-soeur What? How saying that is gonna make him feel good exactly? The only one trying to feel good its you by trolling. Please, get lost. You wouldn't understand what empathy means even if it your mother were on the building...
@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083
@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083 2 жыл бұрын
God bless all of those families and their loved ones. I'm just afraid there will be more of these buildings coming down. Greed is a powerful motivator for procrastination.
@wandasanders4924
@wandasanders4924 2 жыл бұрын
What are you INSINUATING, the BUILDING was TAMPERED with.
@AlexFlockhart
@AlexFlockhart 2 жыл бұрын
@@wandasanders4924 pretty obvious it was just neglected
@maryellerd4187
@maryellerd4187 2 жыл бұрын
Real estate, development and construction is greed without bounds. I lived in south west Florida for over 20 years and what I saw in that 20 years is unbelievable. Florida’s west coast is mostly way behind the east coast in condo development, but it’s trying really hard to catch up. What used to be beautiful beach views are now views of condo after condo. However, what the beach gives, it also takes. An unexpected no-name storm in the 70s wiped out a city-county park with restrooms and grills on one end of Sanibel Island along with most of the access to an exclusive island adjacent to Sanibel. I hope the pilings supporting the condos are driven deep into bedrock because rising seas affect the west coast as much as the east coast. Salt spray and storms are continuous along both coasts of the peninsula.
@AlexFlockhart
@AlexFlockhart 2 жыл бұрын
@@og-greenmachine8623 Well they don't float when nothing supports it from the bottom, so yeah, it will fall at 9.8m/s², just as a dead bird would. It IS suspicious whenever a building collapses (other than catastrophic earthquakes and winds), because the buildings are supposed to be engineered to stay standing, and if they don't, it was negligence or corruption (or very rarely, as I believe you were implying, sabotage)
@Carboxylated
@Carboxylated 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you start the video out with respect for the families/victims that were affected by this. Amazing analysis video!
@mattmmilli8287
@mattmmilli8287 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so sad seeing a few lights flick on in that last tower before it fell. Imagine waking up to just a few seconds left of your life as it comes down. Fuck
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 жыл бұрын
Reason 47: why NOT to buy a condo...
@swaqqkidd69
@swaqqkidd69 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I see the lights coming on they were getting up while it was falling smh so sad I am devastated
@edal61
@edal61 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen quite a few of these reconstruction videos, you're the first to acknowledge those that perished and their surviving family, most others are non-nonchalantly speculating on the cause of the collapse, even as many victims hadn't even been recovered yet. On the part of quality and analysis, yours happen also to be the best I've seen! Thanks for your work.
@ozhs2
@ozhs2 2 жыл бұрын
honestly I'd inspect everything the company that built that has done over the last 15 years.
@danielritchie5066
@danielritchie5066 2 жыл бұрын
Salt water erosion did this not the company
@ozhs2
@ozhs2 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielritchie5066 Well i dont have other examples of apartment buildings collapsing because of salt erosion, so my statement still stands.
@lilmike2710
@lilmike2710 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielritchie5066 The company who built it was also aware of this fact just the same as you so... I'm not going to try and unpack your brief rebuttal there but damn... Seriously??? "Ok heres your multiple story apartment building we built for you to rent to hundrends of people.. BUT..... It's close to a saltwater environment so it may or may not collapse. So if you would just endorse that 200 million dollar check now that would be great." Yea, no it dosen't work that way. The builders, the architects, and the buildings owners are all %100 responsible for this demonstration of greed and incompetence. The architects for not taking all things into consideration (including environmental erosion), the builders for not bringing the faulty design to the attention of building and zoning authorities, and the owners for neglecting to have the building inspected annually.. I would even go as far as to lay some blame on building and zoning/elected officials for neglecting to pass legislation that requires annual inspections of said structures.
@flupord9083
@flupord9083 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielritchie5066 Ok Daniel, sounds like you know what's up, really good point you make. Lets actually NOT investigate any other buildings, just because why not! No harm in not doing so :) The fuck is wrong with you?
@flupord9083
@flupord9083 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me for my tone, but seriously. What do you gain from shutting down someone's safety precaution just for the sake of suggesting a non-factual statement? I'd assume you got the vaccine at least, yes?
@BrittneyPrice1029
@BrittneyPrice1029 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best description of what happen then any news reporter has given us
@tiffanyms2881
@tiffanyms2881 2 жыл бұрын
So sad. This should have never happened. My heart goes out to the families of all affected. It has to be a nightmare for them.
@SMaamri78
@SMaamri78 2 жыл бұрын
What is sad to me is that i’m sure some of them survived the initial collapse but died waiting to be rescued.
@hiyellagal
@hiyellagal 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMaamri78 I just can't imagine the horror of that.....Waiting. It's so haunting watching this. May God rest their souls.
@dervthebeast5130
@dervthebeast5130 2 жыл бұрын
@@SMaamri78 meanwhile they were clearing rubble with just buckets 🪣………..smfh
@Us3r739
@Us3r739 2 жыл бұрын
Dude wild humans only live 20 years if they’re lucky and they usually get eaten alive or spawnkilled, how is this a nightmare?
@SmithFam2323
@SmithFam2323 2 жыл бұрын
This helps a lot to understand what happened. A warning to us all on what to look for and if it is not safe to scream loudly and often to get stuff fixed.
@consumer1843
@consumer1843 2 жыл бұрын
Space shuttle incident is similar.
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 2 жыл бұрын
@@consumer1843 we already have to start screaming. Our bridges are crumbling, many are confirmed destitute and in need of immediate repairs. I was able to look up the ones in my state and at least two I use to drive to work are on the list. The Brooklyn Bridge is also considered in a severe state, with some engineers just waiting for it to collapse. I can’t imagine the horror it would cause for that bridge to collapse, but our government isn’t going to do anything unless we force them to- before there’s death.
@ROCKSLIDZ
@ROCKSLIDZ 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Your animation helped me better understand understand the structural failure. Clear, concise, and respectful. Thank you.
@labibbidabibbadum
@labibbidabibbadum 2 жыл бұрын
Tragic event and a really illuminating explanation. Thank you for the great clarity of your descriptions and animations.
@dukegreg
@dukegreg 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent report, thank you. At 8.08, the section described as 'this sequence' 4: the video shows the southern sections of the remaining top floors all crack-like-a-stack-of-cookies at the same point and same time. Chilling and unforgettable. (Rest in Peace, with angel's wings)
@NA-cw3mm
@NA-cw3mm 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for correctly accounting the woman that was on her balcony and made the call to her husband! Everyone seems to get this wrong, she was not in 412!
@gramateur5776
@gramateur5776 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! She had been living in 412 but had moved within the last year to 410. It was documented on her blog. What is confusing people is she was friends with the owners of 412 and could use their balcony for photos.
@brianismine2898
@brianismine2898 2 жыл бұрын
did she survive?
@cyndianderson7056
@cyndianderson7056 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianismine2898 no. :(
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
Where condo victims were located whatsnew2day.com/where-miami-condo-victims-were-in-the-champlain-towers-south-before-horror-collapse/
@avanulaneway8418
@avanulaneway8418 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't even matter which apartment, she never got out. R.I.P Lady
@The_D0RK_KNIGHT
@The_D0RK_KNIGHT 2 жыл бұрын
"I hope this video was useful to you" Sir, it was exceptionally useful and presented in such detail that regular news media fail to do.
@maineskeptic5887
@maineskeptic5887 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mike, for channeling your interest in a way that helps others understand what you think you're seeing. This is some talented and informative work.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that
@gaae2000
@gaae2000 2 жыл бұрын
It was built in the 80s during Miami's mafia/corruption era just like NYC. The city's civil engineer inspectors were bribed. They approved every single step of the construction from changes to the original building plan to the use of inferior building materials.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 2 жыл бұрын
And yet you don’t know if there was any thing wrong with the actual construction of the building.
@VictorNewman201
@VictorNewman201 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 Thats the thing, there are so many other building made by the cocaine dealer / real estate developers of the time, that are even worse shape and still standing. So something / someone pushed this particular building's problems over the edge.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 2 жыл бұрын
@@DCOM.20 We know? No you think you know. Built with cocaine money doesn’t mean it was built with cocaine. So since you know exactly why it failed what does that mean for the surrounding buildings. How can they be modified to ensure they don’t fall down for the same reason? You do understand the investigation is to determine that. That’s why we investigate accidents.
@jctell1014
@jctell1014 2 жыл бұрын
@@VictorNewman201 It appears that extensive water infiltration into the pool deck was the culprit...several people seem to believe this to be the problem.
@jainradhakrishnan6600
@jainradhakrishnan6600 2 жыл бұрын
40 years is a long time for a modern building to remain standing without proper maintenance, if it fell within 5 years of being built you might have a valid point, but enough time passed that both weather effects specifically corrosion, and lack of regular building maintenance probably are to blame. Had the preventative maintenance or repairs occurred earlier maybe this disaster could have been avoided. Imagine you drive a car without ever changing the oil or having the same tires on since 1979. Would you blame corrupt car markers of 1979 for your car breaking down in 2021? Probably not. If you own a home for any length of time, you know (or learn) how susceptible they are to the weather, leaks, cracks, issues over time and those issues need to be addressed or they multiply into costly repairs. Most single family home roofs have a 25 year lifespan before they need total replacement. Most single family homes do not collapse though because they carry less loads than an apartment building, but all the more importance to keep up with maintenance and repairs when hundreds of lives are on the line.
@LAG09
@LAG09 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how construction and design mistakes made decades ago can come together with shoddy maintenance over those decades so suddenly and catastrophically. Lots of mistakes made, but of those who made mistakes only the last ones end up having to take any responsibility.
@MissKitty944
@MissKitty944 2 жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 That's correct. Many condo associations vote on saving money rather then doing the repairs correctly. AND nearly all condo associations DO NOT collect an additional fee that goes into a separate escrow account designed to take care of repairs as they arise, thus avoiding huge additional fees along with the current monthly fee. AND some condo boards illegally spend this money on 'beautification' projects with out informing the members as required by law. I'm currently on a board that did all of the above. Illegally pillaged the escrow account to 'up date' and 'beautify' the club house. Now the current board has the herculean task of correcting these errors and bring everything up to code or face huge fines with out any money. The previous board emptied ALL the accounts. We're in the red. So it's a combination of all things. Poor construction, failure to have an escrow account for repairs and the members not wanting an additional monthly fee to fix issues before they become a disaster.
@LAG09
@LAG09 2 жыл бұрын
@@MissKitty944 I used to live in a building that was fairly similar. Except they just wanted to keep fees low. Lots of old people who never considered that a building will become get expensive to maintain as it gets older. Went cheap on maintenance to the point that the plumbing was patched up with a literal garden hose in one spot. People tried to get badly needed renovations done and the old folks always went "No, you're not doing any major renovations while I'm still alive" until enough of them had died and they couldn't stall anymore. Finally had a huge one where they re-did both the elevators and the plumbing, both 20 years past their service life. Lots of complaining, trying to cut corners and accusing independent experts of being biased because because the state of disrepair ruled out cheaper options. Even tried to screw the contractor by charging for use of the elevator. They still complain about fees being too high when they're the ones at fault.
@davetuscano5939
@davetuscano5939 2 жыл бұрын
I guy in NYC was just standing there, and the concrete broke under him. He fell 12-15 feet down. No rebar in the concrete. Another guy was walking along and an underground explosion went off thru a grate. Shoddy work and a lack of maintenance. BUT! NYC can afford to pay people $100 to get a Covid shot!!!!!!!!!!!!
@LluviadeOrugas
@LluviadeOrugas 2 жыл бұрын
Who are the “last ones”?, do you mean the owners?, because if you do, I completely disagree. The owners are the victims in my opinion, the designer, builder and/or city inspectors are the ones who should be made responsible for such a young building to collapse. There’re plenty of buildings around the world that are much older, are not being properly maintained, and are still standing today. Also, I read somewhere that the owners were already paying outrageous fees for maintenance every month. Here in Spain, I’m paying 80€/month for maintenance of a beautiful, nearly 70 year old high rise 20 minute walk from the beach. We did have a major repair though, a few years ago that costed us 2,000€ each, but nothing like what the poor owners of the collapsed building were supposed to pay. Very sad situation all around!.
@LAG09
@LAG09 2 жыл бұрын
​@@LluviadeOrugas Over the time since the house was built the people making the decisions on what to fix, if at all, will have cycled trough plenty of times. Lots of different owners and condominium association people. You can't place that much responsibility on the inspectors as the building was deemed "structurally deficient" years before the collapse. The condominium association had some repairs made and those were again deemed to have failed last year. However as the inspectors didn't specify that the building still being "structurally deficient" means there's a real risk of collapse the condominium association, i.e the owners of the apartments, didn't take it seriously. So the ultimate blame lies collectively on the shoulders of the designers, whoever approved those designs, the builders and both past and current apartment owners. Only ones who are totally innocent in this are the renters and owners' family members who lived there at the time of the collapse.
@thecollapseofchamplaintowe7199
@thecollapseofchamplaintowe7199 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve just came back to rewatch because I’ve been studying this catastrophic even from the start. Now looking back all the way to now. I’m sure your aware of Column M1.1 by now . You were spot on from the start ! Fantastic work . I hope you do a follow even though how you would. You’ve pretty much nailed it .
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Follow up in the works with new insights ...
@thecollapseofchamplaintowe7199
@thecollapseofchamplaintowe7199 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-Bell awesome . In the near future
@thecollapseofchamplaintowe7199
@thecollapseofchamplaintowe7199 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-Bell well hello 👋 lol
@rontom7344
@rontom7344 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I must say given it hasn't even been 2 months, the detailed description of the building's failure and collapse has been very well articulated. I would have expected this description at least a year after the event.
@ScarabChris
@ScarabChris 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done animation. After a month of almost obsessively researching this I believe your animation is the most accurate. There is a longer version of the neighboring CCTV video that starts minutes before the building is seen going down. In the longer version you can see what looks like a cloud of dust around the pool deck well before the building collapsed. Had someone pulled the fire alarm at the first sign of a problem I believe most would have made it out.
@kman2308
@kman2308 2 жыл бұрын
Where is that longer security cam vid? A link to it please?
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. I have not seen the earlier longer version of the cctv. Can you paste the link or tell me where to find it. Could have important clues. Thanks
@ScarabChris
@ScarabChris 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the link. It shows it in different speeds. You can actually see lights flashing in some of the units. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r-B3etB2ztmZlp8.html
@swinde
@swinde 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the video began after the building collapse started. It is like they did not want to share the initial moments.
@terry94131
@terry94131 2 жыл бұрын
@@swinde The security camera that captured the collapse is motion-activated. It didn't initiate recording until the building was already falling.
@t3true-games
@t3true-games 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen a few of these video already, yours is the best and most detailed in explanation. Makes you now look at older buildings a bit differently now for sure.
@juglishjohn8986
@juglishjohn8986 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, narration and music are so appropriate.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 2 жыл бұрын
40 years isn't "old" for buildings, tho.
@MsDimples1979
@MsDimples1979 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation thank you for sharing with us 🙏🏾❤️
@evermar1
@evermar1 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most thorough and logical look at this devastating tragedy. Thank you for your clear analysis.
@randymartens1823
@randymartens1823 2 жыл бұрын
This is THE single most informative video I've seen on this tragedy. It presents the known sequence of events (many of which I was unaware of) in an easy-to-understand manner that I've never viewed before in the many other videos and news accounts of the collapse here on KZfaq and other media.
@thestormiscoming8883
@thestormiscoming8883 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most accurate description of the collapse so fare.
@kineahora8736
@kineahora8736 2 жыл бұрын
Not really
@kineahora8736
@kineahora8736 2 жыл бұрын
@@macdean I like Josh porter’s channel on this and Jeff Ostroff…
@coriebarnes8680
@coriebarnes8680 2 жыл бұрын
There are other channels like Building Integrity. You just have to search for them.
@simp2234
@simp2234 2 жыл бұрын
collapse of a nation is a sign
@rafaelgomez1989
@rafaelgomez1989 2 жыл бұрын
Great professional explanation while been very respectful to all victims and their families. Thank you !
@victorvandyke9898
@victorvandyke9898 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Thanks to you as well as KZfaq for making all this possible.
@sunshinegirl3716
@sunshinegirl3716 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't get through this video without a tear. These people had their dream home. Just want to say God bless to all families involved. Thanks for the explanation
@posterboyrob
@posterboyrob 2 жыл бұрын
Dream homes? In 1970 as a kid I remember ocean water and rain water being an issue in these buildings. I'd been in this one several times. Not global warming. Poor foundation stupidity. I grew up on Miami Beach in a house on Indian Creek, as a thirteen year old I knew these places were not safe. I liked the balconies on this one though. They were real balconies and wrap around. A change from the 70's look. I lived at 28th and Collins in Triton Towers for two years overlooking the Beach during reseeding. Completely different construction. Cheapest contract bid buildings. That's what you get for a foundation. Little towns up and down the Beach side... corruption is how they run. Someones going to jail I hope.
@luciskies
@luciskies 2 жыл бұрын
@@posterboyrob most folks who’ve never lived on Miami Beach don’t really know that. I grew up on 64th and Collins and during Hurricane season I’d see the ocean going crazy on the east and then the bay on the west. It’s awesome to visit but living on the beach has its issues. Especially since global warming is def getting worse (folks in Cali/PNW are literally burning.) So I don’t really see a house or condo on the beach here a dream home. FL is gonna flood at some point But yes you are right that some buildings are built better than others. All buildings should be built without cutting corners.
@matthewkornafel1059
@matthewkornafel1059 2 жыл бұрын
Death by number. Jesuit ritual sacrifice to distract the masses. Like all others.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 2 жыл бұрын
@@posterboyrob the people for the most part that bought these condos didn't know any of that, most were from up North and out-of-state so your comments pretty irrelevant dude, to them it was their dream home.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkornafel1059 take your meds and go back to bed.
@Badgersj
@Badgersj 2 жыл бұрын
It's just desperately sad isn't it.
@gizzykatkat9687
@gizzykatkat9687 2 жыл бұрын
So sad, it makes me think about how I would be in a situation like that.
@cplcabs
@cplcabs 2 жыл бұрын
Its more than that. The video showing the roof of the garage shows what you would expect in a building that has been abandoned for some time and left to rot. The people shown the video should have taken action, but obviously didn't.
@debiannebalmer8166
@debiannebalmer8166 2 жыл бұрын
@@cplcabs subsided stress may have occurred, that is what they are investigating, what happened.
@gizzykatkat9687
@gizzykatkat9687 2 жыл бұрын
@@cplcabs We all all just people, anger wont get anyone anywhere, lets just mourn the ones who suffered and are gone now
@julief634
@julief634 2 жыл бұрын
@@cplcabs Think back in the days of cavemen, that is what Florida is. Run by idiot politicians and total greed moronic cowards that have frontal lobes out to lunch 24/7.
@TimeQCelledor
@TimeQCelledor 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. My heart goes out to all those who were lost and loved ones. There's some comfort in the fact that this disaster served as a warning to us all. This collapse has people alert to the possibility, as well as what to look for, and will save countless other lives in the future.
@puglord5592
@puglord5592 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very Thorough and well put together. Thank you for putting the collapse into proper context.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@bluecali4na
@bluecali4na 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t the front desk pull the fire alarm. So frustrating if they saw the whole thing caved in outside.
@k53847
@k53847 2 жыл бұрын
Fire alarm was apparently activated by the damage in the garage, there was a 911 call by the monitoring company reporting this a few minutes before the collapse. Not sure of details beyond this, like if this should have or did activate the audible alarm.
@whirlwind8825
@whirlwind8825 2 жыл бұрын
@@k53847 Never happened. The system does not dial 911. The broken pipe is not a sprinkler pipe its PVC
@7YBzzz4nbyte
@7YBzzz4nbyte 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the time was too short, they didn't know what they were looking at. The time lag was only a few minutes.
@gymeni
@gymeni 2 жыл бұрын
Might be a little deeper than that. A friend of mine lived in a new apartment building. An electrical fire broke out in her apartment while she happened to be home (the smoke detectors never alerted, even as smoke billowed) and, as she frantically escaped, calling 911 at the same time, she was told NOT to pull the fire alarms. That was always super suspect to me.
@whirlwind8825
@whirlwind8825 2 жыл бұрын
@@7YBzzz4nbyte In order for the people that say the pool deck collapsed to be right the fire alarm would have gone off. Its a complex system. It does not dial 911 it sends signals. The two narratives are this. The roof was overloaded with roofing materials and caused the collapse . This puts the city at fault. The pool deck collapse puts the condo at fault . Had the pool deck collapsed 7 minutes before the building it would have triggered the fire alarm. Set off strobes in the entire building along with alarms. And then sent a signal to the monitoring station - that would relay that to the fire department directly.. (not through 911).
@TamaraGalica
@TamaraGalica 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, once again your animation and explanation makes perfect sense. Thanks for your insight
@straighttalksucks5161
@straighttalksucks5161 2 жыл бұрын
No if this was insight it would be. God hates tall buildings
@frigginpos
@frigginpos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. You put it together really well.
@MrChillerNo1
@MrChillerNo1 2 жыл бұрын
What we learn: - Don't neglect, when something is damaged, demand reparations - If you hear "construction noises", see cracks happening, feel shakes/vibrations, get the f**k out of there. -If no time, go onto the balcony or close to the outside wall, it will highten your chance of survival in being found quicker afterwards.
@lightbulb1982
@lightbulb1982 2 жыл бұрын
MrChillerNo1 How does your lesson apply to you? Do you get the f**k out (as an idiot like you says) when you see rips or tears in your shack?
@MrChillerNo1
@MrChillerNo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightbulb1982 when I see it happening definetly. Have been through some earth quakes, although in well maintained buildings. When you see/hear a crack happening, you'll know what I mean. Its frightening believe me. But with the neglect of infrastructure I see here in the US, its a genuine concern of mine and I expect things like this to happen more often in the future. Sorry if I sounded cold/rude in my first comment, that was not my intention, more of an emphasis on the speed of action. No offense was intended. May the victims of this tragedy rest in peace.
@TheHuesSciTech
@TheHuesSciTech 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrChillerNo1 You gotta be careful with your "advice", the standard (and I assume, much better) advice in earthquake-prone areas is to get under a sturdy table in case of shakes/vibrations. Presumably because you're much more likely to have some sort of projectile hit your head at lethal speed if you "get the f**k out of there", as compared to the likelihood of your building collapsing.
@MrChillerNo1
@MrChillerNo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHuesSciTech Sure, my bad, I expected that to be self evident/common knowledge. Same goes btw for door frames, and corners if tables and doorframes are not reachable. BUT, especially if you have time (early warning system) being outside away from buildings and other overhead construction is still the safest. Best would be not have to enter/live in a building having obvious safty issues and marode structure. I hope they make an example of those responsible for the neglect. A crumbling infrastructure is not only an issue in the public sphere but also in the private. Have a nice day, stay save.
@babalon1919
@babalon1919 2 жыл бұрын
#1 !!! Don't build your castle on the sand!!
@titaniumdiveknife
@titaniumdiveknife 2 жыл бұрын
Truly a respectful simulation. Bless you sir.
@miamisands3412
@miamisands3412 2 жыл бұрын
Just to ponder if this happened only a few hours earlier when everyone was awake and more people saw the pool deck sinking and concrete falling maybe someone could of pulled the fire alarm and more could of escaped.
@jayz4evr
@jayz4evr 2 жыл бұрын
It's could have* professor not could of.
@megatuanis
@megatuanis 2 жыл бұрын
I cringe to think that if this had happened during the day, when people are enjoying the pool deck or driving in and out of the garage, cameras would've caught people actually getting crushed. Some might think a garage collapse is all that was happening and might actually gather around to look, not realizing the rest of the building was next. Also, there would be no way for anyone to know in which direction to run, especially right before the first collapse. You just know something horrible is happening and chaos ensues. It's likely some people would've been at work or out and about. I can't imagine which time of day would've been worst, if there's such a thing. Regardless, to me this is still as horrible and shocking as the day it first happened.
@catpaws1196
@catpaws1196 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayz4evr So many people think it’s “ could of “. Drives me nuts. Lol.
@polarvortex3294
@polarvortex3294 2 жыл бұрын
@@catpaws1196 That's the way the contraction sounds, so there's some logic to the spelling.
@maciakittys1114
@maciakittys1114 2 жыл бұрын
@@megatuanis "Could have" of what??
@DandyChigginz
@DandyChigginz 2 жыл бұрын
You did an amazing job with this video. I would encourage you to do another when you have more information on the cause.
@muhammadfatkhurrozi5289
@muhammadfatkhurrozi5289 2 жыл бұрын
the effort you put in the making is enormous. Respect.
@did4196
@did4196 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being the person on the 6th floor and 4th floor who got out... they probably ask themselves “ why didn’t i scream or wake up my neighbors. I know at the the time they didn’t think about it but i imagine now there are so many what ifs.
@honolulublues5548
@honolulublues5548 2 жыл бұрын
That's called survivor's remorse. Happens all the time in tragic situations. The "why did I survive and not them" or "I should have alerted more people" does happen, but the fact is, if a survivor attempted to alert more people, they may not have gotten out themselves.
@dhoisak
@dhoisak 2 жыл бұрын
why didn't anyone pull the fire alarm?
@did4196
@did4196 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhoisak I have seen other people ask this too. Some one said that some buildings the residents are instructed to wait in their apartments for instructions when they hear the fire alarm... not sure if this is true or if the people that survived even thought about that at all
@sherribrawn3757
@sherribrawn3757 2 жыл бұрын
It's going to be interesting when all that footage from the many cameras in, and around the condo building are finally released. Most likely be years, but I'm sure it will be just as shocking as the few we've already seen. That lady, and her children who escaped before the total collapse was so so fortunate, and to think of all those victims who had no clue what was going on just below them was just so sad..........
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
That CCTV footage is eagerly awaited. If it was retrieved from the lobby front desk or wherever the server was.
@sherribrawn3757
@sherribrawn3757 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-Bell I hope anyone who is responsible is punished accordingly, however I am more apt to believe it wasn't just one single element, but many smaller ones that culminated to to bring that building down.... RIP to all those who lost their lives, I wish some sort of peace to those in mourning right now.
@bleach8888
@bleach8888 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that their is a report from a condo official, who said the building will collapse if it wasn't repaired soon. That was months before it collapsed. So, people knew it had structural problems, and that they were significant. I'm not sure why no one followed up on it, could've saved alot of lives.
@christophercripps7639
@christophercripps7639 2 жыл бұрын
Warnings? Back in the 2018 engineer's report, seems the building had been screaming for quite a while that all was not right. Any redundancy and safety factors were slowly corroded and decalcified away. Perhaps with one failed column the structure might've held on to allow most to evacuate. But with widespread "rot" there was no hope.
@JeremyHalterman
@JeremyHalterman 2 жыл бұрын
Informative, respectful, and not overly sensational. Thank you so much.
@worldsedge4991
@worldsedge4991 2 жыл бұрын
These are good animations showing several simulated points of view. Thank you for sharing and explaining.
@joshglassman4160
@joshglassman4160 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen buildings that have fallen into a sinkhole and it doesn’t look like this pile of rubble. My heart goes out to the ones that have passed and their families.
@rieksstevens
@rieksstevens 2 жыл бұрын
@@og-greenmachine8623 here we go again
@rentechpad
@rentechpad 2 жыл бұрын
What I do not truly understand, was the placement of the shear walls which appear to be a bit inadequate to me, although I live on the west coast in a seismic area and the code requirements for placement and tie in of shear walls are there to make sure if part of a building falls, the shear wall stays up, the part that collapses peels off, and even if what is left is unstable the shear walls plays a big part in keeping its stable enough to get people people out and not follow the part that sheared off immediately downward. Code here usually requires shear walls to not sit on top of load bearing pillar but to go all the way down into the ground or below the floor or garage basement floor so as to be able to take load is a part down fall in a seismic event. I realize that in that area of the country high winds are usually the more common threat not earthquakes but shear walls would solve the same purpose it a partial collapse do to wind. Is it possible that the design did not include more shear walls at appropriate places due to them wanting to enable excellent views? When the first section fell it should have sheared off and actually left the back side of that center area and then with it stil standing even if the load had shifted on the beach side part it could have at least for a while born the brunt of the load and given time to get more people out
@charlesduzzie9811
@charlesduzzie9811 2 жыл бұрын
The cars fell before the rest of the pool Deck. The planter fell into the garage 7minutes before the rest of the building fell. There were small steps in the beginning, then the collapse.
@hellen70666666
@hellen70666666 2 жыл бұрын
....Plus, One guy on TV News, said he talked to his Mother the Day before, and she said she Kept hearing Noises in the Apartment----but, he just dismissed her as just getting old----So something was happening with the Structure, at least 24 Hours before....Totally Sad Event.......:(
@fredflintstone5356
@fredflintstone5356 2 жыл бұрын
This is a learning scenario for everyone. It doesn’t matter what building you’re in, if you hear several noises that shouldn’t be there then get out of the building. Sadly though you don’t want to be that person who pulls the fire alarm to try and save everyone and then nothing happen, or something delayed happens and the next time people just ignore it. Maybe people should be more diligent on asking for the building inspection reports before they decide to buy said condo or building. I know when I bought my home I paid for an inspection before I committed. That being said, there are also a lot of new buildings getting built faster and done cheaper, my cousin bought a brand new house that had 5 year warrenty and literally just after the warrenty ended, his attached garage became a detached garage and separated from the house. It was an expensive fix and at his cost. We also had a five 5 story condos that were only 8 years old here in my town and when they got inspected, all 5 had defects and were immediately abandoned. People were forced out and were not allowed to enter the building to get their personal belongings. That being said 2 years later the buildings were still standing and they tore down those buildings with people’s personal stuff in them. I have a friend who lost everything and he still had to pay a mortgage on a condo that he was kicked out of and still after it was tore down he still had to pay for the mortgage. There is still an ongoing lawsuit but $20k given to everyone so far doesn’t cover a $350,000 condo. This is in Canada by the way.
@yukonsusie
@yukonsusie 2 жыл бұрын
Fred Flintstone in Canada?! Aaah! So sorry to hear these starriest, but thanks for the reality check.
@KayInMaine
@KayInMaine 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellen70666666 Yes, one woman who survived said it sounded like metal pipes banging together. That's how she described the sound she was hearing.
@Andrew-qq8fb
@Andrew-qq8fb 2 жыл бұрын
The original design seemed to have been flawed due to smaller columns, and the concrete may also not have been mixed correctly, and not enough rebar used perhaps. Also, the addition of heavy palm tree planters that were not part of the original pool deck design, that were placed on top of very important columns, as well as the exposed excavated hole beside one of the planters, and the waterproofing was "past its useful lifetime", and also the pool deck's drainage system was not sloped like it should have been to allow water to drain properly, but instead it all saturated the slab and columns underneath. I'm not an expert, I just watch KZfaq videos, have a nice day.
@MarkNOTW
@MarkNOTW 2 жыл бұрын
In another video, a structural engineer noted that the waterproofing was not located properly within the slab makeup.
@Akiss
@Akiss 2 жыл бұрын
More rebar probaby wouldn't help, as the expansion of rebar when rusting worsens the spalling.
@wraynephew6838
@wraynephew6838 2 жыл бұрын
The whole concept of building a pool deck on top of a parking garage is silly. Unnecessary complexity that poses a grave risk. Even building a pool deck on the roof of the condo would have been much safer
@eric.6653
@eric.6653 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being on one of the lower floors of the building, waking up to multiple car alarms blaring and concrete collapsing, suddenly before your own ceiling collapses and everything goes black. holy fuck.
@GoldLove21
@GoldLove21 2 жыл бұрын
The only good part was that the death was most likely instantaneous
@goobert5485
@goobert5485 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldLove21 except it wasnt. people were stuck screaming for help for hours and days, unable to receive it because emergency response couldn’t get to them due to the structural integrity of the collapse, it was too dangerous to risk the lives of anyone, including the people trapped. they died horribly and slowly. we have to remember this so this kind of disaster never happens again, and the execs who run these kinds of buildings actually pay mind to those living inside of it, and make an effort to ensure their safety, something that unfortunately didn’t happen in the surfside collapse. RIP
@walterclements85
@walterclements85 2 жыл бұрын
god I hate it when you uninformed morons try to imply that everyone died instantly and it wasnt slow and painful so everyone "lived happily ever after" to try lighten the mood, thats absolutely not what happened at all, saying they did is just untrue. As previously stated, only a smaller majority would have been killed instantly from head trauma, the rest would have been crushed and forced to feel the life escape from them as they lose their lower bodies. I don't care how messed up that sounds, thats just how it works
@theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567
@theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, clear explanation and not sensationalized, and I have something of a better understanding of what happened. Thanks for making this
@Lauren-vd4qe
@Lauren-vd4qe 2 жыл бұрын
Those garage pillars look like match sticks holding up that enormous tall building.
@gkprivate433
@gkprivate433 2 жыл бұрын
yes. they were ridiculously small compared to the pillars used in other places.
@jennteal5265
@jennteal5265 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to have a better understanding of how those pillars work and just how deep they went, I suggest Building Integrity's videos about this collapse. The man is a genius at explaining the physics,.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 2 жыл бұрын
@@gkprivate433 oh please. They were normally sized.
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 2 жыл бұрын
@@stargazer7644 oh please. They were abnormally sized 😂
@whatyouwerethinking998
@whatyouwerethinking998 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking..like what? How
@lisakoumrian5301
@lisakoumrian5301 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this animation and for qualifying that some elements may be surmised such as garage rubble extent. I appreciate your seqencing of collapse esp. that last section to fall was triangular the rear in vid was buttressed by shear wall of stairwell. I am 60 have lived in California my entire life. Been through countless earthquakes including1989 7.1. They ALWAYS jolt you awake if in bed. We had one here approx 4.0 2 weeks ago (San Leandro). Unfortunately, I am sure most residents were aware or cracking and jolting but may have fumbled to dress or headed to the elevators or east side stairs which both collapsed. The oft- commented upon flashes of light in the vid was no doubt electrical arcing as cables snapped. Conspiracy folks pls give it a rest.
@davidperets9997
@davidperets9997 2 жыл бұрын
rip my first conspiracy (bomb car iranian close to the columns)! but now it could be another thing more sophisticated, it could be explosive inside the planters! under the soil. of course they know that there are columns under etc. just a conspiracy nothing more
@lisakoumrian5301
@lisakoumrian5301 2 жыл бұрын
Explosives in the planters! Gotta love it!
@pallen9044
@pallen9044 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is light in dark times. I now have a clearer understanding of this terrible event. Thank you for posting a compassionate and thoughtful piece.
@hughjaass3787
@hughjaass3787 2 жыл бұрын
T. Y. For this enlightening video with 3D animation. My great Uncle & Aunt lived (1995-98) in Surfside condo. I was just looking at old photos from there, mostly in pool and beach front. But still, its really eerie to look at them.
@cryogeneric
@cryogeneric 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic recreation. Thanks so much! RIP to all who lost their lives.
@WesMacaulay
@WesMacaulay 2 жыл бұрын
Failure at the slab step seems like a very likely source for the tower's demise. The complete lack of waterproofing in the core samples is astonishing.
@peterford9369
@peterford9369 2 жыл бұрын
And that was something I thought I'd seen, was a part of the contractor list, back when they'd done some repairs. So, where did they spray the waterproofing? Under the pavers, or on garage ceiling? Which would have actually added to the problem.
@WesMacaulay
@WesMacaulay 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterford9369 Waterproofing is not usually sprayed on: it's usually installed from a roll and the seams are sealed. It would be something clearly visible in the core sample.
@tchevrier
@tchevrier 2 жыл бұрын
@@WesMacaulay I don't know what was used back when this structure was build or what the code is in Florida, but these days the waterproofing is typically a roll on product. HLM 5000 for example.
@WesMacaulay
@WesMacaulay 2 жыл бұрын
@@tchevrier hehe I’m in the Pacific Northwest and over a parkade we’d want a really thick membrane 😬
@tchevrier
@tchevrier 2 жыл бұрын
@@WesMacaulay I work for a company that does concrete repairs and restoration. specifically parkades. To be perfectly honest, I've seen water damage and deterioration 10 times worse than what I saw in the videos of this building. There are a number of ways to do the waterproofing, but the key is really to have an effective drainage system to remove the water.
@billt8504
@billt8504 2 жыл бұрын
I would have been killed in this collapse, even if awake. I would have walked out onto the balcony and seen the collapsed parking garage and said, "wow, lookit that." Then I would have gone back in, got my iPhone and come back out to take pictures or videos. I am a Darwin Award waiting to happen.
@carryfreak5059
@carryfreak5059 2 жыл бұрын
I’d do the same thing not realizing the garage and building are connected. 🙄
@cactusitude
@cactusitude 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really well explained and good animations.
@Mike-Bell
@Mike-Bell 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
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