i build pity when there are no upcoming characters i want or if i want to take my chances to lose 50/50 or get a constelation like im doing with neuvillette now

I mean you're right, but at the same time I pulled 30x on the current banner with 0 pity for the 4* knowing I wouldn't get a 5*. It really just depends

​@@victorraymond3420you never know for sure

@@victorraymond3420 It really is a calculated risk. You have 35% chance of getting a 5 star before soft pity, and a 0,6% chance of getting one in any given wish before 74 pity. Sometimes it's absolutely worth build some pity going for a 4 star you need.

my personal rule is build pity if i'm on 50/50, wouldn't mind getting the 5*, and only until i get to 50-60 pity. however, i'm ok doing this bcs my 5*s always come the same way: failing 50/50 then getting the guaranteed in the next 20-30 pulls. each person's experience would be different though.

If your a completions doesn't that leave the game dry? Like you have nothing to do but commissions and resin. But what I don't understand is why you guys are trying to make it go from that to just resin. Like you already have nothing to do, wouldn't be okay enough to just do the commissions.

I mean, the counterpoint is that if you do run out of all that, there's nothing else to do but the daily resin spending that's very very quick anyhow, so it matters less. Don't get me wrong though I still wish spending resin, even if limited to each type of resin spending only works once per day, would accumulate points.

Even if you 100% everything, there will always be events and you could get points from events that update daily.

@@miaace26 some events only unlock a new challenge to complete every OTHER day, and there's often a distinct gap between one event unlocking it's last challenge and another event starting. For updates that really just add events, easily half the days could lack potential encounter points. and one challenge may not equate to 4 commissions.

Well, there's a new event everytime.. so just utilize that

So true! I build my pity on the banner of my favorite character so I won’t be getting a character I don’t want!

Hey brother I have little doubt, I've lost zongli 50/50 and at 75 pity and I didn't wish a single wish on current banner(nuvellete/hu tao), here is my actual doubt, can I get gurenteed venti in 15 wishes now that I hadn't wished on current banner. Will my pity carry over from zongli banner to venti banner. PLEASE CLEAR MY DOUBT

@@narendranidhanapalli8157Pity carries over across banners of the same type.

@@narendranidhanapalli8157It will, yeah, you don't have to with on every banner )

​@@narendranidhanapalli8157pity carry over different banner but if you didn't wish since your 50/50 loss then your venti is guaranteed but he could drop at 10 pulls or 75 again

I actually thought before that it replaced the original one but it turns out that they merged it and now it's the best thing because finally I have the motivation to get it done while doing quests and exploring the world, things that I love doing already. So even if I use it all up, hey I can do the commisions too. XD

You mean you had to go to 90 for everyone?

@@justcallmesiv Pity starts at 75 in Genshin

@@ronmexico7256 no that's soft pity, or what i thought you were calling early pity instead and it starts at 74. Hard pity, or just Pity tbh is at 90 where no matter what on pull 90 you get a 5 star. your comment specifically says you have yet to experience early pity it so i thought you you meant that you have had to go to 90 every time and i was just gonna be sad for you. If you havent had to do 90 each time that's good. if by your original comment you mean that you havent ever gotten anything before 74 pulls you wouldnt call it pity in that case it's just early. Sorry for misunderstanding your initial comment

@@justcallmesiv it’s possible you’re new and don’t know the community memes but “early pity” is referring to being more likely to pull a 5 star in the first 10-20 pulls, as opposed to 30-50. Obviously this is completely unsubstantiated but this is how it’s being used in the video, and is frequently used in the broader Genshin community. A lot of creators purposely set up their pity so they pull the on banner character in the first 10 pull, which probably feeds into the notion that it’s actually a thing.

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this is so weird to me, I always thought "building pity" was just that and not trying to get 4* characters, bc to me "building pity" is just spending primos for no reason other than spending them on banners, if you want a 4* character then you're just pulling for them, the pity increase is just a consequence. TIL a different meaning all that

I thought building pity was basically just continuing your gambling addiction 💀

I had to drop like 100 wishes to get xingqiu c6, i got diluc, neuvillete and tighnari on the way, guess destiny just wanted me to get furina

The game is easy regardless. Judt because the main audience are preteens doesn't mean it's "hard".

@@Sarackosmo wdym?

@@ArcadeAce21 Ignore negativity. The game's difficulty depends on what you want to accomplish in the game. Some want to play casually with the focus on the overworld, and it's easy. Some enjoys character-building and want to test them, like in Abyss, and it is slightly more difficult that way (requires proper knowledge on the game's mechanics).

@@ArcadeAce21 it means most people play the game entitled. they want everything. this means ignoring reading or listening to anything which dampens their performance. even if you get information or pay attention you can still play how you want. i still used a team of diluc,fischl,barbara,QIQI till i got bored. people just keep making excuses.

@@verzetta unless it's a challenge run the difficulty is the same.

As a counterpoint to this, I think a key defining feature of Genshin is that it is a game with a world, you have to actually go to places to do things. Many, many gacha games boil down to just a series of menus and autobattles to clear content. That is not a game, that is a spreadsheet. I attribute a lot of decisions in genshin to being deliberately different from other gacha to stand out in its field.

​​@@dominicjannazo7144this, i love hsr but it has heavily lost me on the gameplay and the daily loop just because auto battle and comissions are so braindead to do, while genshin still feels like a game i am playing daily hsr is not, its the cookie clicker i leave open to run while i play genshin, but i do agree that more things should qualify for the comission thing since all are limited resources (only so many chests, so many oculi, so many quests etc)

@@dominicjannazo7144this! ❤

FRRRR!!! Mihoyo just rlly like to waste our time with more unnecessary dialogue🤦🏻 like I'm getting sooo mf tired of it!!!! It's been 3 years and this game is still getting only small improvements smh💀

I can hear the "Ad astra abyssosque! Welcome to the Adventurers' Guild." And "thank you for completing today's commissions. Here is your reward."

you can.. you just don't get reward.. but you can do them for achievement

@CloudStrifeCosplay oh are you suggesting making them world quests? If so that could work as well

wait they changed it?

Can i add for your wise words? SO FAR, the conclusion in testing that i done some days, and lacks me others (after this comment i'll try for it)... Was Hydro Mage shield. Before 3.0, before Dendro, the way was purely Cryo, even though the weakness on rotation of Hydro is Electro. But then, they made Electro be a new Anemo/Geo. Abyss Mage Hydro Shield, suffers more damage from Dendro. (@crocworks is right, its the Elemental "Gauge/Unit" that counts, not the dmg, a Lvl1 character do the same has your Lv90 Raiden 9-9-9...) So i got 1 adorable Dendro vs 1 overlooked character. [I mean, comeon, before get nahida and after, is just Spawn of Traveler Dendro, where is Electro Traveler? Geo and Anemo are solid, ...i digress] Yaoyao, who can heal you and apply dendro so sometime more flexible... and ... the Overlooked Collei. Fact is: Collei was better stupid to smash HydroAbyssMage Shield. Yuguei couldnt do in 2 casts, needed 3. Collei is way quicker, her Boomerang, and the fact you can deliver Charged Shots at same time, and Burst if you are with the energy ready, are marvelous! Now the EVIL Tip, that will make people get angry: The Winner of Smashing Cryo Mage Shield is ... Ta-dah! AMBER (especially her Burst). No Bennet, No Xiangling, they are 10seconds+ against the 2 seconds of Ambers Burst. :3 She's the best applicator i could find from that 40 characters i have (most being T4 ok, i'm ignoring T5 because they are specific investment and not friendly to comment overall). Now good good, time to hunt Electro Abyss Mage Shields, and the Pyro one and test out my 4* Time trial of shield breaking. [ Need prove for myself, ingame actual testing ] BUT , in the case of the FATUI, they follow the 1.0 System. Hydro Fatui suffers from Electro Damage, not Dendro. (And appears Pyro on Electro Abyss Mages Shields worth more then the obvious Electro) ... But Electro_Fatui yes, 1.0, suffers heavy from Cryo Units. =Kaeya,Rosaria,Chongyun, will cover you majestically.

Seconded about Amber being a great shield breaker. Her burst deals 18 hits in 2 seconds, which translates to 6 Pyro applications of 1U gauge each after ICD blocks some Pyro application. Bennett needs 2 skills and a burst to match that (3 hits, each of which are 2U Pyro applications). Amber's burst may have a 12 second cooldown, but she still can fire off charge shots to maintain her application lead anyway. So she has crazy frontloaded Pyro application and can still sustain her own pyro application while waiting for the burst cooldown.

@@crocworks : Bliss reading that way with the mechanics!

But the benefit is you can explore using an exploration team and have a completely unleveled friendship team that you switch to and claim with when you get back to the adventurers' guild. That's the key, only claim the rewards when you get back to Katherine and get all 60 primos at once.

Well sounds like a you problem

Skill issue

Man it’s pretty hard when there is a four star you need that’s in there

@@simplyxrainbowcloud FOR REAL I NEED XIANGLING AND KUKI

0-75* misconceptions;)

@@Philospilos The funny thing is, we were both wrong. I just checked again what the actual soft pities are again and it’s actually 74. It’s actually a misconception to think that it’s 75. To be exact, the soft pities are 74 for the limited-time character and standard banner and 63 for the weapon banner.

​@@CountSacke no one is wrong apart from the guy in this video. soft pity starts when you reach 75 pulls so the 76 pull has greatly higher chance to be a 5*. there is even a chart out there someone made 3 years ago in which he did billions of simulated wishes and it tells you pretty accurate percentages for every wish.

​@@Philospilos I have seen Genshin Wishes data (which is actually based on real data from players) and analyzed it relatively recently. In fact, it's the video I mentioned in my first comment. Based on that data (and in theory), 77 is when most people tend to pull but 74 is when there's a significant jump in the number of people who pull 5-stars compared to the previous pity (73). This implies an increase in the probability of pulling a 5-star thereby meaning soft pity is at 74. Theoretically, the probability of pulling a 5-star increases by 6% starting at 74. This means: 73 has a 0.6% chance 74 is 6.6% 75 is 12.6% ... 89 is 96.6% and 90 is 102.6% but hard-capped to 100%. (This explains why 90 is hard pity) I'm not sure what sort of misconception I'm having unless soft pity isn't defined as I think it is: the point where people are more likely to start getting 5-stars. I would think a sudden increase to the probability of pulling a 5-star would count as that point which is at 74.

@@CountSacke oh, you are right there I'm the one being wrong. I googeled it and also found some wish date. I'm so sorry.

My 3 guesses are Nahida, Alhaitham, or Itto, though with double banners, now someone could be running alongside them.

​@@PelfmiesterGod i want itto and his weapon so bad

@@CorpseGodX but why? :D

I am willing to get any 5 star, ANY 5 star as long as I can secure C2 Kuki. Currently I have no Kiki’s at all 😢

@@pronoun171 y c2 kuki is basicly 5 star

The only complex thing that you don't have direct access to is ICD because while some skill said there's interval, many others stuff doesn't say. Other than that, there's no problem that couldn't be accomplished by simply reading. Although, I do not recall if the game ever specifically said that the percentage in Skill Attribute scale with your Atk, that could be a problem for people who aren't aware. Most gamers have a instinctive understanding and some people are curious so they test but there's still quite a fair bit who don't understand the scaling and stuff.

Yes, i lost faith in many youtubers (after i arguably gain more knowledge on the game) and even was skeptical at Jello initially, but he is willing to admit when he makes an error so it's great, and he also dares to make videos about touchy but important subjects on the game. One of, or possibly the most, Genshin youtuber whose videos i am looking forward to. Also i almost never join livestreams of other youtubers (probably because they do it on Twitch, and i don't use Twitch), and i love to join his livestream if i ever notice one being live.

For me on limited wish banner: Eula at 2 pity, Keqing at 17, Lyney at 7 and on standard banner Jean at 5 pity (I play since patch 3.6 btw)

What about my experience? Most of my 5*s came at early pity... I swear my account is blessed with eternal Beginner's Luck. My wish history looks something like this: 3.6 Keqing - 48, Nahida - 2 (Guarantee) 3.7 Qiqi- 77, Kazuha - 40 (Guarantee) 3.8 Wanderer - 77, Kokomi - 4 (won both 5050's) Diluc - 50 4.0 Lyney - 78 (Guarantee), Tighnari - 36 Tartaglia - 59 Weapon banner Aqua simulacra - 64 (it is the one i wanted, too! due to having Scion for lyney already and wanting Aqua for Tartag) 4.1 Neuvilette - 45 Standard banner Qiqi - 64, Wolfs Gravestone - 36, Skyward Pride - 77 I am now saving up again for Venti, then Cyno, then Nilou.😁

I already got Qiqi twice at under 20 Pity.

i got early 5 stars six times so far ( playing since 2.0 )

My advice is usually: "If you have to ask, you probably want to stick to getting characters." Once you advance more into the game, you know better what you are missing on your account and know what constellations, weapons or just more characters you want.

Yeah I have to many characters. I have had ayaka since her first banner I barely built her last month. I have c5 xaio I'll get c6 his next banner over any new character

as an endgame player it doesn’t rid you entirely of commissions, especially in events where you only unlock one stage per day. and stuff like chests and world exploration eventually runs out. plus there can be weeks where you finish all the events and quests so yeah lol. the encounter points still are pretty helpful, but they don’t always get rid of doing regular commissions

@@seagl4ss main thing is you never have to do the quest commissions, you can just do the day's event challenge and then choose the 2 fastest commissions. Also today the fishblasting event gave 4 points because of the quest.

the new commission change is amazing for me, i haven't completed the mainline story yet. i used to just logon and do my daily stuff then logout, however now i'm actually progressing the story instead of spending time doing commissions and it feels great

@@Tendo28 Amen bro

I've not seen whatever video you mean, but there's nothing inherintly wrong with disliking the new system. I'm glad it's good for the people it affects, but it has been a meaningless addition for many others who were equally anticipating a solution to a very boring system. I'm NOT saying the new system should be removed. Anyone who says that is being petty and selfish. But I am dissapointed that they didn't expand the new system to be more inclusive. They could have expanded the encounter points to include more activities.

Who do you get for hydro? I can’t remember. Not sure for Geo either, I think it's Noelle?

Barbara lol

@@mndy129 Barbara's free?

​@@plazastayep you get her after you finish the first archon quest I think ?

@@yura6299 ... huh, you just made me realise my Barbara is C1 even though I only remember pulling for her once in the beginner banner

The thing with Meta, is Spiral Abyss. A Masochist thing on Genshin. Outside this, there is some kinda hard challenges, yes. (Its a problem for me to deal with Copellia for Ascend Lynette for example) ... But on this side, there is Co-Op to help, where Coop can be broken, because are 2 people hitting same target, and sometimes some characters combinations you couldnt do before. ... [ Also some units shine on coop while others not. Diona shines in COOP for example ] YES, they are not wrong, OVERALL, Qiqi if you have her (Is 5Star), is overall a very good investment because on Open-World content, and bosses she'll Cover your BIG TIME to keep you alive, and have a smooth output of Physical Damage (The kind that works best against Human Enemies - Fatui, Treasure Hoarders, Eremites, so on... ) - maybe sometimes she'll eat you time to finish, but surely is less frustranting then be teleported away from the challenge and have to return to try again. But when you're not sure, a new boss, something, you go first to learn the boss with Qiqi, you're save. Barbara is better against Pyro enemies, where you KNOW they will not use Nor electro nor cryo against you - and this validates Qiqi first. Noelle Second, of course. Dragonspine exploration for example, is early game. You cant take Barbara there, ...you take Noelle. Or the early gacha gave you Qiqi, (like with me, Noelle Banner i gained Qiqi) then ...my case and those people was the "SPOILED dragonspine exploration". ... After you leveled up Qiqi (80+, talents 6-6-6), you're good, can invest on Xiangling and others...no problem. Love my Xiang, Qiqi, Bennet, etc.. i love them all, is just ... a practical viewpoint to avoid frustration. (Because Bennet in a challenge where you cant Energy Recharge well, you're DEAD. And against Dendro enemies, you're pretty messed up too.)

​@@vacuxamunitalots of characters are actually pretty decent if you invest in them for a while. I have a C3 Qiqi that can solo most bosses (outside of one shot mechanics that need some specific reaction to pass). Some characters got way better with changes in the game like New relic sets or Dendro. The thing is, people put way too much value in 36 stars Abyss while that is just a small fraction of Genshin's gameplay. I just don't sweat about it anymore and pull characters that I like or introduce some interesting new comp/mechanic.

Ah yes, not reading, a problem that exist not just in this game but many other game as well.

About #5... Nahida is obviously the best character in the game. This opinion has nothing to do with the fact that she's my phone's wallpaper, no. But for real now, the quote "Meta is temporary, style is eternal" is still 100% true. I've seen people dealing a ton of dps with Kaeya, so yeah... if you like a character enough, you can make them work.

Similar here : that second constellation and Aqua Simulacra on my Yelan are doing much more for my abyss runs than the level 1 Alhaitham that’s still sitting in my queue to build from his very first banner.

Agreed. So i stopped pulling for cons (the powerful the character becomes it makes game easy and i wont give much fun in long term) so i rather test my luck on weapon banner so that I can still feel the thrill of loosing or winning 50/50

When you pull a Qiqi, you definitely need some consolation 😂

My version of that was Ganyu/Koko in 3.0. What a blessing!

When will i get this type of wishing session i lost all 50 50 so far

Congrats! That's kinda what happened to me in first phase of 3.3 with Itto and scara

That's some good luck

​@@4ngryLumineMaybe you get lucky 1 or 2 time in long term time,But you not get so much lucky,that base on account luck,i say that because i have 3 account,and just one of them are exteremly lucky

Yes. Xiao is not short, he's actually tiny.

It's not a myth, he just is short.

Its not a myth its fact

Zy0x I know this is your alt lol

lmaoo

Subbed to your new channel. Looking forward to your reactions to game version trailers/livestreams, character teasers/demos, quest cutscenes etc! (Genshin personally since it's my only game for more than 2 years already and onwards 😅) (if your reactions include those, since i like watching those kind of reactions by others, both individual or mashup, also i hope they will also include you as a frequent part/member in the mashups eventually xD)

All wishes before soft pity have the same chance, 0,6% for standard + character banner and 0,7% for weapon banner. The reason why the misconception exists is because this means that there are actually slightly more 5 stars pulled at lower pity then there are close to soft pity. Since every wish decreases the number of 5 stars by 0,6%. So the first wish has 0,6% of the wishes getting the 5 star, but after that 99,4% of the wishes reaches wish 2. So it ends up like this: Wish 1: 0,6000% of total 5 stars Wish 2: 0,5964% of total 5 stars Wish 3: 0,5928% of total 5 stars ... Wish 70: 0,3937% of total 5 stars And so on. So you will have more people getting a 5 star at wish 1 to 10 then on 60 to 70. But if you look at the actual wishing chance per wish, its equal. Going from 69 to 70 is still 0,6% chance. Also you just have more people talking about how they got a 5 star at 1 pity then getting one at wish 68.

Um no, actually. Once you have everything done in game there's no way to earn daily commsions through the new system. Kinda sad that mohoyo doesn't really care about player loyalty even though they fully know there's players that's been around since launch. Case in point 👉 the new Klee event has a restaurant food deliver that references the " golden shadow" which is all the way back from the 1.1 food delivery event. So ya they definitely know we're here. They just don't care about us. Atlesst not nearly as much as new players anyway.

what would be easier and make all those myth less of an issue(the 5th specialy) is if the comunity acted less as a old market place. i mean every body are yelling opinnion often not even tested as fact "uuuh klee is the worst 5 star" or "qiqi is the worst character in the game it ruin my 50/50" or again "chest respawn after a week" lot of stupid shit. i always found my self to do lenghty research and testing becuz ppl prefer stoping at opinion instead of facts, that how unreliable the comunity is u need to doubt everything and everyone 80% of the time

Fr I made a second account after my first one reached AR 60. My f2p alt is AR 54 now but my equipment and artifacts are so much worse that my damage there makes me cry lol 😭

​@@EternaMidnightliterally!!! That's why I went for burgeon. It's dmg isn't based on hard to obtain stats and specifically CRITS

You don't need math and special knowledge, especially if you're already an experienced player. People are very lazy and underestimate their capabilities.

i remember at one point my friend asked if i was going for c2 beidou i had no idea what c2 meant and i was searching for so long on youtube for answers cause i was too embarrassed to ask

Actually its interesting that around 50-73 pity is when the rates are the lowest, the first 10 also are a bit lower chance

how do we use it? cant seem to figure out how to use it.

@@nightmarerex2035 just press the book icon on top right, then go to commissions then at the bottom right you'll be able to claim the rewards once you've done stuff like chests or quests and stuff

If you waste your guarantee on the character you don't mind getting in a way that you won't be able to guarantee the future character you really wanted by the time the banner of said future character is nearing its end, then it'll also be the bad way of building pity. Every single time I've ever built pity not only was I ok with getting the 5 star from that banner but I was on 50/50, I really wanted the 4 stars from that banner, and I also knew that I'd still have 180 wishes (more if I wanted cons) for the banner of the future character I really wanted (which meant, I could 100% guarantee the character I really wanted or even their cons if I wanted them).