(1) in my heart for Eula is so funny and so true.

Based!!!

#1 Eula #2 Freminet #3 Razor

@@lalafinnonomiya808 how could you do my boy razor so dirty

⁠@@zanzatbcI mean, he is already dirty and probably stinky too

Thanks

Fair take

That take alone made the whole video shittier

The better take this list was wack. And I knew it the second venti wasn't on list

also Faruzan is kinda niche, since she is mostly used for only anemo

On field Faruzan > Venti. All Venti does is make the easiest content easier

exactly Hoyo had to actively change the game after releasing Venti, he could trivialize all the hard content that they had to modify enemies going forward to not be Venti’d Hoyo takes into account Venti’s existence every update to make sure he never breaks the game again

@@boshlovely2002I mean it’s basically every archon in the game. Venti and Zongli has already been countered, Raiden is (used to be) countered by electro oceanid, that WolfLord geo bullshit… tho Nahida… well It is still her era so we don’t know for sure how they’ll counter Nahida. Venti=Trivialize Multi Wave content Zhongli=Trivialize Damage Raiden= Trivialize combat effeciency(energy) The only counter they had for her was to make mechanics that limit her or straight up electro immune bosses. Now she has hyperbloom so doesn’t matter anymore

@@banir3736 Maybe they will add enemy that absorb dendro to get stronger and they immune to dendro dmg as fountaine boss in near future (then add it to abyss). Who know lol

it's true

copiumm

4* have always been harder to get , just the fact that there’s no pity for 4 *

Agreed. Eventhough ive been playing for almost a year already but my fischl still at C0 😢

@@Seysey0520 my kingdom for a Xingqiu

@@crownedking_cj8890 yeah, but all the good 4*s were in the game from the beginning, except Kuki. Every 4* they add dilutes the pool and makes it harder to get the good ones.

You get one free Xingqiu per year, it's not that hard

altho for milk production only yelan can do it properly YUCK XQ's "milk"

​@@nightmarerex2035bro what 😭😭

​@@nightmarerex2035bro played genshin on p*rnhub

Xingqui is just better in Quickbloom teams, He has more hydro application, much longer burst and quicker casting. Lastly the most OP thing about him is his 70% Interrupt resistance and 50% damage reduction even higher than most melee characters(50%) with the exception of Raiden with 100% interrupt resist. The problem with Yelan damage bonus is that it takes a while for it to appear.

@@Thekomokoroxq might be stronger but lets be honest whos more fun

Yun Jin did not deserve that spot. The bar for Geo is so low that their best character is mid at best. You could have easily chose any Geo unit that isn't Ninguang or Yun Jin. Fischl is better then both Kuki and Raiden because she is the only character in the game that can make Aggravate properly work. She has the best Electro aolication making her great for unconventional shield breaking with Electro AND she's a great battery. The other two can be so easily replaced if we get another consistent AoE Electro aplicatior. Xingqiu is better than Yelan. Yes she deals more damage, but that doesn't really matter since Hydro aplication is what matters here. Damage is something that can easily be replaced, but the amount of elemental aolication has never been powercrept so far. Yelan cannot work as well in a lot of teams in which Xingqiu would be able to function perfectly well. Also if Hydro aplication didn't matter people wouldn't be playing double Hydro. Also, Nilou vs Childe. Nilou is easily countered. You put a Cryo shield, she can't do anything. Childe has never been countered so far and their AoE damage is about the same. He should have the third spot.

@@kawaiimika7974 agreed with everything but the xinqui yelan point. She in facts does equally in some teams and better on in some than xinqui like yoimiya vape and alhaitham and cyno hyperbloom. She does equally as good in national because of her personal damage and her buffing raidens damage. The only team she does significantly worse is his hu Tao vape because she can’t make Hu tao vape her charge attacks. And people don’t play double hydro because of the hydro application. They play it because xinqui and yelan is just simply a very strong duo altogether

​​​@@joeltoomer3332 She is better with Yoimiya, but that's Yoimiya. She gets carried by off fielders anyways and it doesn't matter which one is on her team really. With Al Haitham she is better yes. Cyno, don't think so. Xingqiu allows you to not run a shielder and his uptime works better with Cyno. And if you don't run a shielder you can run Kuki who will provide Hyperbloom damage when Cyno is off field and Electro resonance + her own energy generation. She can work with Hu Tao but barely, and there is no point to running her alone when double Hydro is just better. True, that is the reason why double Hydro is good. But so is Fischl Xingqiu combo that I have been running for a long time. Also she is significantly worse than him in teams that need a lot of Hydro aplication like Burgeon, or in teams that need slight AoE Hydro aplication like Freeze.

@@kawaiimika7974 I wouldn't say she really better for Al Haitham. Like i love Al Haitham and i love playing him. But everytime i use Al Haitham without interruption resistance i cry a bit. Like is it better in Speedruns? Yeah, but do we look at Speedruns? No, not really. When does this more damage actually matter? Will Yelan be the difference between a 2* or 3* compared to Xingiqu? I think in a lot of scenarios not. So how important is this more damage actually? Is it a *big + point* or just a small difference? And if we look at the other stuff Yelan doesn't have. What is a bigger loss?

​​@@joe_simon Oh really, interesting. For Cyno I definitely noticed the interuption resistance but with Al Haitham I didn't notice it as much. Also, you are so right for that last statement. Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏

Fair take tbh

Yeah, tbh I don’t wanna call Faruzan whale bait, but she is incredibly energy hungry. Almost to the point where a minimum of 200 er is required. I would go as far as to say that it is almost uncomfortable to use her at C0 at all which most people have her. Venti with f2p investment will provide most early stage genshin players a lot more value.

@@jalynhorne9371me with 294 ER and Fav on Faruzan and it’s still not enough to get burst on cooldown with Wanderer team 🥲

I agree. Venti is more useful in teams than Faruzan. Venti should be the 3rd spot for Anemo.

yeahz and as a wanderer main, i dont even use her

Ong. Just because she can enable hyperbloom does not make her better. Fischl can Aggravate, taser, last unit in Hyperbloom, overvape comps, spread. Like she's so good.

I think they are close but Fischl is just a bit better. I have both of them c6 and Kuki relies WAY more on cons than Fischl

It’ll be pretty difficult to dethrone units such as yelan, xingqiu, childe, and kokomi

@@harrison8639 Furina is the archon, there’s no way she’s going to be worse than a 4 star from 1.0 and regular 5 stars without much lore importance like Kokomi and Yelan

​@@harrison8639 Venti use to be a Meta till 2.0... Now he doesn't even comes in top 3 anemo units anymore, which explains alot how meta changes ridiculously. As per the leaks which we got on Furina's kit, I can say her kit is extremely strong to provide off field hydro damage and AoE application, along with elemental damage boost and healings. I can clearly see her kit more aggressive than Xingqiu. So believe it or not, Furina will be better. But for Neuvillette, naah... his kit is underwhelming.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Hmm_okk_loli feel like neuvillette (atm at least) wouldn’t be as underwhelming as u think, it’s just that he’s a character that fulfills a role that others already fill (on-field hydro enabler), his numbers, however are far superior compared to ayato and Childe with higher dmg ceilings against all the hydro rosters overall, and tbh I assume furina and him will work well tgt so that may lead to new comp possibilities.

​@@raidenbeelzubub yeah but neither Childe nor Ayato rely purely on their numbers for their best teams; Childe in national becomes ridiculous for the AoE Hydro coverage as well as how quickly riptide scales with 3 or more enemies around. Ayato has an absurd amount of Hydro application and a lot of versatility that even doing bad rotations doesn't mess with his performance. Neuvillete on the other hand has a lot of front loaded Hydro DMG with decent AoE and range and that's pretty much it, his application is nothing too impressive, he most surely will need a defensive option like Zhongli for on fielding (which is hilarious for lore implications lol). He's a bit too DMG focused for an element that's pure technical and multi functional.

She's way better imo

@@Alhaitham195I wouldn’t say she’s “way” better. She’s better in some cases and xinqui is better in some cases

​@joeltoomer3332 Mine xingqiu is c0 for almost 7 months. And yelan is a way stronger than xingqiu. The only issue with yelan is slightly worse hydro application which isn't noticeable because i run both in nahida hyperbloom team

@@joeltoomer3332 She's way better. Period

@@Alhaitham195 well I disagree. You run her with hu Yao as the solo hydro and hu Tao won’t get to vape so no

You said it "when he works" When he doesn't all the other top Anemos leave him behind by quite a long margin since they don't have that work/don't work problem.

@@Sickness4daThickness but since faruzan is on top 3, that means the niches arent being ignored and in venti's niche, he absolutely dominates

​@@arturpaez7006yeah, its like lets value Nilou on her best scenario But Childe as a general hydro and not the best on field hydro applicator when the other two were already off field hydros. I mean i get his point But its completely bias. The spread valoration was out of the way too, if you dont count burgeon for single target you shouldn't count spread as aoe too

@@arturpaez7006 that's a good point tbh I think the reasoning behind her places was the same as Rosaria over Ganyu in cryo characters And I said that considering Sucrose is pretty much as broken as Kazuha hence making her closer to a five star than a four star.

"whenever he works" the ventiable content was not in the abyss since forever, or at least it wasnt consistent AT ALL

Pyro Version of Xingqui or Yelan wouldn't work unless they have double the Pyro application Xingqui has since Hydro consumes 2U of Pyro. Unless they have good damage multipliers the character would just be useless

@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur I didn’t mean as in being as good an applicator as them. I mean that I want a 5* that is to Bennett as Yelan is to Xingqiu.

@@MegaMrASD oh my bad.

So I've been playing Genshin for 10 months now and something I've come to observe with the meta players in particular is the community has a really bad "confirmation bias" issue. And what I mean is people are constantly looking for validation that the character they dedicated time and/or money into is not only "meta" but better value than the characters they choose not to. So you see these constant debates between Hutao/Yoimiya/Lyney, Childe/Ayato, Ganyu/Ayaka, Xiao/Wanderer. And I also can't help but feel some TCs inadvertently fueled the flames by being dismissive or discouraging people from pulling on banners because "______ is all you really need anyway." And yeah I feel like people really need to get pass that fixation.

​@@crimsonECH1DNA that applies with the ultra casual/waifu pullers too. Some of them would go as far as to straight up hate anything meta related without even trying it out or learning why they are considered meta in the first place as long as some says "play what you like it's not a hard game"

He also gets points for being consistently meta. He has never fallen out of meta, even now with Neuvillette I would still argue international is one of the best teams

@@HazZzel- childe isn't meta by virtue of him being strong, he's meta because xiangling is a ridiculous unit

What is circle impact?

basically when you have to stand inside a characters burst (like bennett) @@flowsky7339

Playing at circular buffs (Bennett buff, nahida buff, rosaria's burst, dendro mc burst and etc) where you need to make use of limited area to have buffs.

She's garbage since she's so slow and geo.

​@@ashab4444as Yunjin? 🤨

You are right ! I'm using Ayaka + Ganyu until Cryo archon replace her role as sub dps/support.

Id still say pull for Shenhe because Ganyu on her own is a very good dps and that gives you a good team for abyss. Plus Shenhe is just Shenhe.

She is better than Nilou sure. Well I think every hydro 5 stars are better pull than Nilou because they work in every abyss and she is the only one who can't be play in every abyss cycle. I mean Tartaglia have international, but he work everytime. Ayato can be put in every team and he will be fine. Nilou need Kokomi but Kokomi can be play in others teams like freeze when Nilou doesn't work.

@@Camelia437 I love nilou but mine has pretty much been benched, i just think kokomi is way more versatile, she has everything. Dmg, tankiness, healing. Can be used in dendro teams (LIKE EVEN NILOU WANTS KOKOMI IN HER TEAM TO FUNCTION), freeze, tazer, sukokomon etc. So yh exactly as you said.

@@Camelia437 VERY good take!

@@Camelia437nilous Dendro niche makers her an over all better unit to have than Kokomi.. kokomi can get replaced easily by Barbra, Yao Yao or Bennett …she has great hydro application but the again so does nilou and xing…nilous damage ceiling is higher with Dendro and can be used well in vape teams..over all Kokomi is great but not needed

​@@mordakie3805I agree kokomi Is overrated and note that I was like one of the only 3 people that even dared to say kokomi is good back when she first came out.

You never know. He does like Xingqiu's shorts a lot.

It’s jello’s subjective (less objective) listing of the top 3. he personally likes Nilou a lot (i can tell), so i can see how favoritism influenced his top 3. there’s just no way that a very niche restrictive character like Nilou (albeit strong) can out-value the versatility and flexibility and role consolidations of Kokomi. sure, in bloom teams, Nilou is great. but in all other teams, Kokomi is more valuable by a long mile.

@@skyhart9926 I could definitely see an argument for why Nilou has a more powerful kit than Kokomi, because there’s a very real chance that Furina will powercreep Kokomi whereas no other character will ever be able to take Nilou’s role

​@@Elrog3who doesnt love twinks?

it's a fair take but i'd rather run Noelle with Gorou rather than Itto without gorou , from the calcs and footage i've seen and opinions of theorycrafters and others. so that's why i put gorou above. but that's a fair take too

Ever tried dps Faruzan? She has fairly large multipliers. At C4, her ER requirements for an on-field playstyle drops significantly, and can basically solo abyss chambers. At C6, her off-field damage is pretty significant that you can run her with Golden Troupe with an ER/Atk/Crit build.

@@denki2558 @denki2558 I am familiar with DPS Faruzan, and I know she can reach good numbers (I don't know about soloing a floor 12 chamber tho) but is she really better than a Wanderer or a Xiao in terms of dps? I don't think so.

​​@@JelloImpactnah, itto is much better than noelle. Specially in aoe where he can use venti and actually hit enemies on the air. Funny enough, furina may actually be a massive buff for him too. Not only can he face tank stuff provided you got a strong enough healer while also having knockback immunity but he also have very little dmg% in his kit, wep or supports. Her buff will be almost pure for him on top of her rather good personal dmg

Well, I see where he's coming from(outside yunjin, no way she is better than itto. She's whatever). Gorou and faruzan are pretty much obligatory for their element dps. A xiao or wanderer without faruzan feels like ass and its the same for itto or noelle. They may be niche but... geo is more or less its own thing outside zhongly god mode

Pretty niche is an understatement. Only is good for 3 characters, 2 of which don't even want her and favor other characters. So yeah, working for LITERALLY ONE CHARACTER and not even being much better than Bennett or Yelan definitely puts her far, far, FAR below Albedo. The increase is so minimal to the point that even if you play Yoimiya, it's not worth raising her since you'll literally never ever use her in any other team.

@@oliviaaargh as a Yoi main who tried her but didn't enjoyed her a lot, agree. I run Yoimiya with Yelan, Fischl and Zhongli now and it has become my favourite team. I could use my bennett, but i kinda don't wanna kick any of these other units

​@@rostschweifvomchaosclan For me its Bennet Xinqui Yelan and Yoimiya . Why Fischl? Hmmm

​@@chaosinfernoid9008Bennett probably taken up in other team and fischl is great for overvape

@@rostschweifvomchaosclan It's fine, as long as you can clear, any team is fine. Especially since you can leave your Bennett free.

To be honest i think if Rosaria was a 5 star, she'd easily be the best cryo character in the game. Not only is she useful in all sorts of cryo teams (melt/freeze/physical) she also does something any element can benefit from: crit rate buff.

I think the thing with Ganyu is that she is the ayato of cryo, she is not the best anything She isnt the best freeze dps She isnt the best cryo support She isnt the best melt dps But she can still do all 3 things easily, so you get 3 roles in one character I HATE ganyu but she really is pretty versatile

Most cryo characters are fairly solid. While Layla, Chongyun, and Mika aren't groundbreaking they all have a special role. Layla is a very good sheilder, especially for a four star. Chongyun and Mika both provide something unique, which makes them interesting. Goes to show a character doesn't have to be meta to be useful

I don't know why but Childe is a bit of an underdog. He works well on a lot of teams, and if you want to build him for his burst that can hit crazy hard too

I can guarantee you this guy has never played Childe nor International. He just parrots what the other Ytbers and reddit says.

@@IDontWantHandlesWTF to be fair almost all the hydro characters are mid to absolutey amazing so I can’t really blame his choice

@@newgate-zerohour yeah the guy doesn’t get enough recognition. He’s so good and his burst is one of the reasons he’s a core unit in most speedrunning comps.

@@joeltoomer3332 agreed. Hydro is such a good element that it’s hard to pick the best units. But I still believe Nilou is… I don’t want to say overrated, but some of her limitations as a unit are disregarded because of her team’s insane damage potential.

Nilou bloom is f2p and it's really good

​@@rheysama international be like

​@@rheysamabut very niche since her passive restricts her in bloom only.

@@Rapiers-and-flowers her element doesnt change she is still hydro..who does hydro damage easily great for single target and aoe

That's what I was thinking. The Unga Bunga mode is pretty good, and if you have enough energy recharge, you basically get to burst right after bursting if you take the time to swap characters to rebuff.

well he only plays female characters, as you can clearly tell, so he never will play itto

I'm excited to try!

Ya, itto is very nice. Pretty versatile too thanks to venti

The bar for Geo is too low. It doesn't matter who the last character was, all of them are mid

​@@kawaiimika7974Wow this comment is definitely not pointless! It's not like the original comment never said Geo was good or better than other elements, or even that the characters belonging to the element are above average!

Eh, the top 3 is consistent. Top 1 is Gorou, as Geo is literally completely useless and the characters have no synergy at all without him Top 2 is Itto, as you can play Albedo-less Gorou, but not Geo HC-less Gorou And top 3 is Albedo, especially since a ton of people don't have Cinnabar Spindle. Noelle is fine, deserves top 4. And Zhongli, Yunjin and Ningguang can go fuck off. Sad characters all around. Hopefully Navia doesn't disappoint..?

For me Top 1 definitely itto best DPS and has one of the best c6 in the game Top 2 zhongli the best Shielder Top 3 Albedo and gorou perfect supports for Noelle, itto and Ningguang. Everyone else I didn't mention are niche.

@@Rapiers-and-flowers we are not talking about c6 and DPS capab. It's the overall util of a C6 4 star and C0 5 star (most relatable)

niluo needs less investment imo but childe overall feels better to play

@@yahiax needs less investment= nahida + kokomi + signature weapon nice

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Dmc + barbara is alr enough

nahida is the only real extra investment here@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

by that logic childe needs kazuha, a 5 star weapon and a very well invested xiangling @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

Nilous niche Dendro passive and her hydro application makes her more versatile ..she works in dendro, vape and freeze …but that dendro passive makes her valuable

⁠​⁠​⁠@@mordakie3805 i think you’re confused with what “versatile” means. nilou is niche, which means she is not versatile. you are better off using other Hydro characters than her in freeze, electrocharge, hyperbloom or vape teams. nilou is only good in pure bloom teams. You can use her in non-bloom teams but that’s basically a meme.

@@cyronmastriano7089 disagree i use her in vape, freeze teams....her dendro passive makes her unique not just niche ..she's best with dendro her damage cieling is higher than kokomi with her best teams..

@@mordakie3805 ​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠ and nilou is mid at best if used outside bloom teams. anyone can work if you make them. heck you can even make Amber a hyper DPS if you really want to. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s practical or optimal. but hey, if you wanna make a horse swim in a river instead of run on land, you do you. Also, damage output is not the only valid category here. there’s utility, flexibility, versatility, driver function, defense function, team support, elemental application, role consolidation. It’s not always about DPS damage. teams aren’t made of 4 DPS characters. kokomi beats nilou in terms of universality in different teams. sure you can use Nilou is non-bloom teams, but that is wasting a large portion of her kit. it’s like using Xiao without his plunge attacks or Zhongli without his shield. but hey, if you want to run using your knees, knock yourself out.

​@@cyronmastriano7089Nilou vape team loses only to Childe😂

I love Nilou. i have her. Her team is super strong. but Nilou is very niche. Works her best only with dendro and hydro teams. Sure you can use her outside dendro/hydro teams, but that’s wasting her potential. I agree that Kokomi should be the 3rd for Hydro. Kokomi offers more coverage of roles than Nilou.

it's a fair take but I value power over versatility

⁠@@JelloImpact Versatility is power. Kokomi is useful in any iteration of the Abyss. Nilou is not. Kokomi enables more team variations than Nilou can. If you really value power, which it seems you’re damage-centric, then Yae Miko should replace Kuki. Yunjin should replace Itto. HuTao should take over Bennett’s rank. Ganyu should take over Shenhe’s rank. Tighnari should replace Baizhu.

@@JelloImpact Hehe me too! But in this case, Kokomi does it for me! Although our opinions are both valid :p

​@@cyronmastriano7089Nilou was never bad in any abyss. If you talk about 3.5 and 3.7 then it's just skill issue.

Hyperbloom hits for 68k per tick so meh, like wanderer also hits 40k per NA, xiao can also do 100k per plunge, xiangling can do 60k per vape, so itto really is not that impressive.

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz are we playing the same game?…

@@VeliaOwO i assume we do since these numbers are quite possible especially xiangling's and hyperbloom

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz absolutely bull. No hyperbloom hits that hard even with 1000 ‘em without nahida c2 so try again.

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzyeah but hyperbloom is very easy to build and caps out itto with a good support team can out damage hyper bloom it’s just that it’s mono geo and geo is the most neglected element in the game rn 💀

Add the fact that Fischl is also an amazing addition to HB teams because she doesn't really steal the seeds but deals really good damage from off field.

Best =/= cheapest. No way is c6 Xingqiu competing with c6 Yelan. They should be in the same spot at low investment. But overall, meaning considering high investment as well, Yelan wins. She ties him in one category and wins the other.

And Fischl above Raiden is insane.

@@Elrog3 Ofc yelan is better at higher investment since she's a 5 star. It's never a fair idea to compare a c6 5 star with c6 4 star, that's why most people put a handicap on 5 star being c0 compared to c6 4 star bcz c6 5 star character (damage wise) will always be better than c6 4 star not even close. So my opinion above was considering c0 yelan and c6 xq with no vertical investment. While raiden and fischl still debatable whose stronger, but i personally feel fischl is more flexible as a unit, her fast electro application combined with her personal damage make up for that. While raiden is less flexible than fischl in some team comps, but her personal dmg is high enough that makes her shine in most team comps that she's in. And they're both have an excellent battery capability, while raiden is slightly better but fischl is not that far behind. I think they're pretty close.

@@nathannael8722 I guess the difference is you are trying to rank pull value while I would be ranking strength. And Jello.. did some weird in between lol.

Its because Xingqiu is a 4 star so his value is instantly better. The fact you don't need to pull for Yelan and can get a different 5 star bring inherently more value to your account.

its a common misconception in community that yelan cant make hu tao vape every hit, its been known fot years now that she CAN do it, but no one seems to know about it, jello and flip said it tho i think. but yea he IS better than yelan in majority of teams

​@@blastzdyeah I was gonna comment this. Hu tao can vape with yelan but I do disagree, yelan is better than xingqui in most teams now. In all hyperbloom teams yelan is usually better. In cyno quickbloom she is better, in alhaitham hyperbloom she is better.

@@putent9623 in hyperbloom teams, xingqiu is a must cuz of his hydro app, yelan is better with yoi, cyno, alhaitham etc. altho one of them is only great lol

@@Laurboy97 imo 5*'s are more valuable because in the end they become stronger with cons and up until that point, even if they aren't, you are closer to getting to the point where they are than if you built the 4*'s first.

I know this is your list but I think baizhu would be the top 3, still yao yao is pretty much enough already unless you deal with those consecrated beast

@@traninhminh-eric9117 I'd say they're comparable. I just prefer yao yao more than him because her burst heals so much it's laughable. When I'm dealing with AOE situation I almost always go with yao yao, single target with baizhu. So yeah you can make a case for both of them at 3rd.

@@eimanhaqim918 Valid point you make there!

Way better. Tho Gorou should objectively somehow be sloted into the list under Geo, BUT THIS IS WAY BETTER

Wrio won't power creep Rosaria. They both fufill different roles- he is DPS, she is support/sub-dps. I would still say Rosie might be slightly more valuable in terms of versatility but he's cracky too 😅

Real, not to mention all of Lyney's talents can do huge DMG. I'd say while Yun jin can be better in some situations, she's too niche to be ranked that high. I'd honestly put Itto instead, he's an absolute beast when you invest in him

Truly the only two characters where you can say Yelan is a five star Xingqiu and visa versa. If you got one you can really put off pulling for the other until you got all your other roles rounded out. Imo edit: maybe just cope because I lost my 50/50

Yeah, same for Sucrose and Kazuha.

@@deannaburke4242 I wouldn't call Yelan a "5 star Xingqiu" because that implies that she is better, and I wouldn't call Xingqiu a "4 star Yelan" because that implies that he is worse. I think they both have a similar kit, in the sense that they both apply Hydro from off-field triggered by Normal Attacks, but they have pros and cons compared to each other. Yelan has higher damage and the ability to buff; Xingqiu has Damage reduction, Interruption resistance, and better Hydro application. Similar, but different.

Yelan is better. At low and medium investment they are equal. At high investment Yelan wins by a longshot. So overall she takes a slight win.

​@@Elrog3 here comes the toxic Yelan simp. At low investment Xingqui is better because hydro application. At mid investment they're equal since Yelan does slightly more damage than a C6 Xingqui but Xingqui gives more hydro application. And at high investment (C2+) Yelan is better because her hydro application becomes better and she provides significantly more damage. Characters like Hu tao can't function without Xingqui. Hyperbloom needs more hydro application. More hydro application=more seeds=more damage.

Shenhe is a great cryo support that generally wants a lot of attack. You could run her as a DPS if you really wanted to, or you could pull for a cryo DPS and then Shenhe. I'm pretty sure Shenhe will receive a rerun around lantern rite (January sm) so good luck!

I totally can see your point. if characters that specifically buff an element are that strong, then Sara & Mika should have made the tops too.

fr like putting faruzan over venti is crazy 😭 it’s not like xiao and wanderer is unusable without her and she depends sm on constellations

I did one “you’re building too many characters”. Probably do a new one towards the end of Fontaine

you said it yourself, itto needs mono geo. and by that i don't think you mean free geo characters like MC or noelle lol

@@elina1421 sure but yunjin only works with like three characters. While itto is just simply the best geo dps we have right which is think he’s deserves a spot for

@@joeltoomer3332 she's still more impactful on those 3 teams than itto in the entire genshin meta lmfao

​@@joeltoomer3332 She works with Yoimiya only. Every other team with her is copuim

​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz She really isn't. You can replace her with any other off fielder and you'll get a better results. Her buff is trash, Bennett would give you the same amount AND allow some of your off field characters ti snapshot

I was gonna say her taser teams are fun as hell

kazuha works even where he isnt intended

@@Pingpong009 qiqi also works as the 4th slot in a hyperbloom team, its nothing special

@@majo6944 but does she inc dmg ?

@@Pingpong009 no but neither does kazuha? at least not by much since he cant make use of his full potential in hyperbloom

@@Pingpong009 i mean, clam Qiqi does deal alright damage for a healer while keeping your team basically immortal. She legit could be better than Kazuha, as Kazu can steal hyperblooms (and his EM generally in ballpark of 800-900, while electro trigger’s EM in ballpark of 1000-1200 or it’s equivalent with 800-900 EM + FoPL buff) which is a small dps loss, while buffing hydro unit isn’t that impactfull cause their damage contribution isn’t that high compared to hyperbloom damage. Like, if you need grouping, Kazuha still provides value to the team, but otherwise he’s rather subpar option, maybe unless your hydro is like C2R1+ with insane 250+ CV investment where i can see the argument for Kazu being okay.

While I was shocked you chose Nilou over Tartaglia, I do believe you’re entitled to your own opinion and almost anything in this game is debatable, and it’s something we do out of love for the game. It’s part of the reason we all spend so much time reading and writing comments on it.

I really like your videos But i didn't get one thing why ganyu is on the 3rd spot most of the people compete her with ayaka for the first place so it was a little surprising for me to see her on the 3rd place (i am just curious i don't have ayaka, shenha and ganyu)

@@hamnanadeem1007 i think ganyu is good but not as good as the other two that's all

*Kokomi should be the 3rd spot for Hyrdro.* Nilou was a “huh? really?” choice. Don’t get me wrong, I love Nilou. I have her. Her teams are strong. And you’re allowed to form your own opinion. But Nilou is very niche and restrictive. She works her most optimal best with dendro/hydro teams. Sure, you can use her outside dendro/hydro teams, but that’s wasting a big portion of her potential. It’s like using Xiao without his plunge attacks or Zhongli without his shield. Where is Nilou the best in slot for teams outside dendro/hydro teams? i’d say Kokomi would be the better option in those non-dendro/hydro teams than Nilou. Kokomi should be the 3rd spot for Hydro imo. She offers more coverage of roles/functions than Nilou. Kokomi provides more versatility and flexibility than Nilou in various teams. While I know it’s your opinion, i just can’t wrap around in my head how a niche character like Nilou is more valuable/useful than a very versatile/flexible character like Kokomi.

@@froeloe i replied to your personal comment already haha. Kokomi is flexible but not that strong (she is strong, but not as strong as others). her best team is nilou team and ayaka team, but she's arguably the least necessary part of both of those teams. Or at least she's not one of the top 2 characters of either. So no, I don't think she's better than nilou by a long shot. But if you value flexibility over power than sure.

Childe only feels great in vape, if we're talking about flexibility then Ayato is the clear winner: hyperbloom, burgeon, superbloom, electro-charged, freeze, vape, hypercarry.

​@@Radi340idk Taser Childe is really fun and strong to me(no offense to Ayato tho he's better than my husband but still) I never had any difficulties when I use Childe outside of International

​@@Radi340Childe works in Taser , hyperbloom and burgeon perfectly fine , I have tried them all and perfectly viable for clearing abyss with these teams .

@@ivymondal9663 Of course he does but playing Childe in those comps waiting for his CD is a pain. His CD problem isn't much of an issue in vape because you spend his off field time funneling energy to Xianling but in non-burst reliant/quick comps he practically has you waiting to start a rotation again which is a DPS loss. What I was trying to say was that he isn't an optimal pick in a hyperbloom team compared to Ayato. If you're going to use Childe in those comps then you might as well use Barbara or Mona because he doesn't have much value outside vape.

it's a fair take

Well i mean... no shit? That applies to a lot of characters. Change albedo to any other element like dendro or Pyro or hydro. Boom. Great unit. Change Xingqui into Cryo and we have someone who can constantly let Pyro characters melt. Change Ayaka into dendro and watch her decimate everything even faster

@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur yes, exactly. And this is why I think rating ZongLi as "the strongest character of geo element" is not correct.

I like her over ganyu..she is my go to cryo unit

Facts. It’s undeniable that short shorts can lay down some water. Imho, Xq water application, Yelan is power with less non burst water application

I have c6 Xq & c2 Yelan. So I’m super qualified to comment lol

Xq burst with orbitals at c6 is 24*1 +6*1 so 30. Yelan is 15, 16 if you weave in an e, 24 at c2 with an e Also something which is overlooked is xq has 15 hydro res shread, and that his dmg mitigation wirks in conjunction with defensive options Why is that relevant? It lets you run 4inst on your def unit.... Talking of sets, Yelans bu*f is overrated because XQ can also run 4Nobless without losing significant personal dmg, not true for yelan though... Then there is the sapwood blade arguement for dendro teams. C6 XQ vs c0 yelan shouldn't be a debate post dendro. Pre dendro yeah......after 3. 0 she just doesn't compare

The extra hydro app is kinda overrated imo. For example lets take hyperbloom. U have nahida + kuki + hydro + flex. For the flex slot unless ur meming,its always going to be another dendro unit in which case the team turn into a quickbloom / a electro unit which would also make a it a quickbloom team or another hydro unit. In quickbloom, yelan is better than xq cuz the on field carries like haitham and cyno can take advantage of yelans a4 and yelan has higher personal dmg. Yelans lower hydro app dosnt matter much in these teams cuz it will lead to more quicken uptime. If u use another hydro unit in the flex slot,u would be meeting the core icd very often so who u use between xq or yelan for the other hydro slot wont really matter since ur generating 2 hyperblooms every kuki ring proc. So in that case,yelan would be better cuz she has higher personal dmg than xq and units like ayato can take advantage of yelans a4 as well. For national variants,if ur on fielding sucrose then yelans lower app wont be much of a problem cuz swirls apply hydro as well. For rational,u miss a few xl vapes but u get yelans a4 for raiden and higher personal dmg especially since u can vape yelans skill with sime rotations so the difference is almost negligible. The only comps where xqs extra hydro app really matters is in hutao(mainly in solo hydro comps but double hydro comps are just better than any solo hydro comp for her so its not even a relevant scenario), nilou bloom (2h+2d versions)and Tfurry. Thats pretty much all the comps i can think off the top of my head that really needs Xq instead of yelan. Otherwise,the application rate dosnt really matter much.

​@@deltaspecies1697application matters a lot LIKE A LOT in national teams. Her buff is absolutely overrated. It's not a flat 50% damage bonus it's over time so your Raiden burst won't even be getting the maximum amount of damage bonus and Less Xiangling vapes= insane damage loss. Xingqui will always be better for National teams and it's not even close I'm sorry. Hyperbloom and Quickenbloom are two different things. For example Al Haitham quicken bloom means running solo hydro Yelan which is cancer for energy issues and needs a minimum of 220% er atleast which takes away a lot of her damage since you want to run er sands with her. Sure Al Haitham spreads more but it's not that much more than a standard Al Haitham hyperbloom which uses Xingqui. His damage won't be much less than Yelan in Quickenbloom and more seeds generated=more damage which makes the two teams significantly close in terms of damage. Obviously if your Yelan is C2 or even C1 then it's different since she doesn't have to run er sands anymore and will make the team a decent amount better. Yelan is of course is better in some cases like Yoimiya teams and Bloom teams.

I feel Venti should've edged out Faruzan, because Faruzan is pretty useless when not with an Anemo DPS, but Venti will always be able to delete many domains with his burst alone. Not to mention, every abyss has at least one floor with Ventiable enemies, and he's not exactly useless when they can't be sucked up, he's just slightly worse than Kazuha in that case.

Honestly, C6 Fischl beats C0 Raiden unless you’re specifically playing on-field Raiden. The off-field constant DPS from Fischl is kinda insane.

@@Kaiji... one has to assume the same amount of resources are put into both characters to determine which is better lmao you need an c6 to compete with a c0

​@@Kaiji...If ur talking bout hyper bloom Raiden is put on top because her skill have unlimited range in hyper bloom which is more preferred Yes fishal is better in single Target but in AOE raiden skill proc more time resulting in more hyperbloom meaning more damage. Yes outdamaging the extra damage Oz(not fishal) have over raiden E skill And in non hyper bloom team well she's uncontested! Not everyone is gonna play hyperbloom so yeah!! She's usually the best.

Zhongli is the best Geo character because every character including him is mid. If we were to get ANY Geo character that provided meaningful buffs or damage he would be out Raiden is not the best Electro, Fischl is Nahida is the best Dendro And Venti would be the best Anemo character but because Kazuha allows you to push your character's damage to their ceiling he is considered the best Anemo character.

C6 Faruzan>Venti Venti>C5 and under Faruzan

​@@-Theo- No, Faruzan isn't going to perfectly group enemies for you Ayaka, Ganyu, Yae, Keqing, Wanderer, Rosaria, Raiden and whoever there is left

@@kawaiimika7974 Well, if Kazuha didn’t exist, I would agree, but he does so Venti loses a lot of value sadly

​@theo6146 no, because Faruzan isn't as good at grouping as Venti, and realistically she's not as useful when there isn't an anemo dps.

Faruzan is practically useless without her c6 and her er issues are so terrible. Venti and Kazuha are still better all the way

I do tons of research into every character :) but I will definitely build and test them all as soon as they rerun and I get the resources for it~

I actually think Gorou makes sense- he doesn't just buff Itto, he buffs any geo. Faruzuan I disagree with, Venti is too good to not be on there

u dont have to use xingqiu for hu tao, u can replace him with yelan, but in majority of teams hes better

​@@blastzdYelan was much easier to build for me and is much more consistent and fast paced to play with her lower skill cooldown, which is why I prefer her. But it's close

I've been buying him from the shop for years and still no c6...

Balls??

@@joeltoomer3332, it’s Kaeya. I think it’s based off some popular meme and has stuck. The fish claymore is called Joel, etc.

he practically has no constellations and lacking support utilities though

About Faruzan over Venti and Nilou over Kokomi, I can see the arguments for both ways and I wouldn't care enough to argue it personally.

This is truly one of the comments of all time

I agree with this list mainly bc there's no ayaka on here

Faruzan is extremely f2P friendly. Unless you're buffing an anemo main dps, she's literally just Sucrose without the team buffs. Her grouping is on par with Kazuha even at C0, and her skill/hurricane arrow are spammable enough with a big enough aoe to do general anemo bullshit better than AMC or Lynette ever can and with no investment. And beyond her C1 which gives her even better grouping/flexibility, none of her other Cons are really worth pursuing unless you're planning to go all the way (Her C6 burst some small benefit to non-anemo dps parties as any damage will trigger the pressurized collapses and provides additional damage and grouping off-field, but it's not something I'd pursue intentionally as she does the job of an VV-buffer just fine at C0/C1). And without Wanderer/Xiao/Heizou, you don't even care about her burst since it's just additional anemo application in that case, which she already has plenty of out of the box, so you don't even have to really build her for ER and can just focus on buffing her personal damage/swirls, and just use her burst whenever it's available). I've been extremely impressed with her on my alt account as an anemo support even at just C0. She also feels a lot better than Venti does and isn't completely useless if the enemy can't be sucked/moves around.