Elliot, by chance do you have a good phone number for Vitilan? TY, Bill

Just seen your comment. Thank You Elliot!

Jeremiah what Ebike would you recommend for best quality, ride and speed between this, Rattan, Engwe Pro. I am seriously wanting to get one and it has to be a folding one, as I have a Chrysler 300 with a trunk

You’re welcome David. Happy to help you make the right decision.

Glad they are helpful for you and hope it helps you with deciding which bike is right for you.

Thank You Cory!

Eric, by chance do you have a good phone number for Vitilan? They will not respond to my emails and their phone will not go through. TY, Bill

@@Bill-mf5ns I emailed them, plus you can go through Amazon and get a hold of them that way

@@ericechipman1183 Thank you!

I’m currently working on an Ebike power test comparing many different models up the same grassy hill that may be helpful for you. Not sure when it will be finished but keep an eye out for it.

Your going to vitilan i7 pro from the lectric xp? I am between the i7 pro and thr lectric xp 3.0

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I been looking at folding bikes that may fit in most cars or vehicles. My Ariel Rider Kepler needs to be on a big trailer hitch rack.. Not so convenient .. I wanted something that can almost match the Kepler's power and speed. Still looking. I'm willing to go over $3,000 if it's the right folding bike and not a 100 lb monster.😂

@@kevinnashskitchen3517 I have an M6 but I'd probably recommend the A7 Pro. All of them will be fun either way compared to any 500w e-bikes. You can always upgrade the battery too, especially for the folding bikes that usually use the same battery type.

@@-.O.- I haven't see much that can outrun or outdistance a Wallke H6

@@kevinnashskitchen3517 Yea I would hope so with a 35AH dual battery but that's why I said in the same price tier for folding bikes and that one is about a grand more than the other 3. I feel they could've done a lot better with performance and throw in at least a 1000W motor though and do more with the dual batteries besides mainly extending range, but that's the name of the game for releasing future upgrades to maintain price points. I'm more concerned with the ride quality and performance rather than extended range since it's not fun riding in the bottom half of the battery level. It'd be better to buy a back up battery so you can switch it out with a fresh new charge.

@@-.O.- that big foot bike .. 750 and 1000 watt are nice but both equally slow and tiny 14 ah batteries. 1000 watt Bafang with a 28 amp controller and they limited it to 23-24 mph.. Same as the 750 watt Big foot 😣

Thank you

Thank you! I would go with the I7 pro personally because of the rear suspension and the frame design. If you do decide to purchase it don’t forget to try my coupon code to save a few bucks.

“Air hawk” I got one, definitely worth it, never let me down, ever.

Did you buy the V3? Have my eye on that one

@@stevenjennings233 i ended up buying the Lectric Xp lite I wanted something I could lug around a little more easy it’s a cool bike a lot of torque wish I had a little more speed but I’m loving the bike.

Sweet. Glad you were able to take advantage of the extra savings!

@@JeremiahMcintosh can’t wait until it comes in and start having some fun!

Just because I lost $160 on a coupon doesn't mean that you should rub it in think about that would you want to know that you just lost $160

How do u like it

Yes it was the 14.5 amp hour battery as I showed in the video. I do not have the 16 amp hour battery.

Thank You John!

Nothing currently in the works for the I7 pro.

Yes it does.

I don’t even think you can get the standard I7currently but the pro model has a bafang motor with a 25amp controller vs 22 and a Samsung battery according to vitilans website.

The Vitilan is definitely a nicer more powerful bike.

Oh man that’s such a hard question really depends on what you need an a bike. For example I went on a camping trip last weekend ( check out my Instagram for quick reel about this) I needed something super small to fit in my wife’s CRV so I took both DYU bikes that fit in the back with all our camping gear and they worked out great for that trip however for every day riding around town I would want some thing bigger. If uS-based customer support is one of your top priorities Lectric is a great bike but if you want more bang for the buck the New G force T42 or the Vitilan is a good choice. If you need a bigger bike the Magicycle is a great choice and as a 52 volt system which is nice. As you can see not an easy question to answer. Hopefully after watching some of my videos you can make the right choice on what is right for you. Whatever you decide on if it’s one that I have reviewed and it helped you in your decision please consider using the affiliate link in the description to help support the channel.

Your welcome.

Steering seems good on this bike.

@@JeremiahMcintosh did you feel like the reach was pretty far away from the handlebars?

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Thank You. Unless you have really steep hills to go down regen is pretty pointless though.

I don’t think you will be disappointed with the Gforce. It’s hard to say without putting them side-by-side but I do plan on a comparison maybe in the future

Great idea. Please let me know where you get the bmx handlebar (link) thx!

Yes it looks similar to the Hummer pro.

@@JeremiahMcintosh Chen the owner explained that they are indeed made in the same factory. The difference is that each company chooses its own components for the frame design and comes off the factory assembly line a different time period for each company. So while the frame designs are essentially the same, you have to look at all the components like the brakes, controller, battery, etc. with regards to Bike you prefer. Chinese entrepreneurship.

Is about 20 of these manufacturers out there getting the same parts from the same manufacturer with a different middleman name.. They are pretty much all the same.. And then as soon as the manufacturer upgrades parts they just add them with their slap name on the bike. It's just some dude who makes up a name probably a lot of them or just a couple of dudes The same story. I LOVE BIKES with the same type of website 🤣 And for customer service you're reaching his Gmail IN HIS REGULAR PHONE NUMBER FROM HIS CELL PHONE 🤣 All they do is just mark up the bike from the manufacturer. most of them are from the same EXACT MANUFACTURER. These middlemen with the different names of the bikes DON'T MAKE ANYTHING 🤣 It just makes me laugh It's like watching the same movie over and over and AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER. In the reviewers keep saying the same thing. COULD BE THE BEST BIKE FOR THE MONEY COULD BE THE BEST BIKE FOR THE MONEY COULD BE THE BEST BIKE FOR THE MONEY It's the same dude the same.. Don't be fooled...

Even most companies that are physically in the US have their bikes built in China in these factories shipped here then shipped to the customer. They are the middle man also and the only thing that is different is they will have US based customer service (which will be a big deciding factor for some people)but they also started as individuals with an idea and now have a huge business. If a bike company produced all the parts themselves the price of the bikes would be outrageously expensive. They all pick the parts they want on the bike and have them assembled to their specifications. No different than most products sold on the internet these days. I would rather have parts on my bike from a well known brand like Shimano, cst, Tektro ect…that these bike companies use than some no name parts that you think they should produce themselves. Everyone has to start somewhere! Even with bikes built in the USA most parts are shipped in from overseas. Also I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Some of these bikes are similar but have different features and perform differently and that’s why I love reviewing them showing all the features and how they perform.

@@JeremiahMcintosh I like your videos I get it . But this is like nothing we've ever seen .. not the same as typical REAL COMPANIES that have the products made over seas .. As for being different SOOOOO SMALLL DIFFERENCES!!! Only reason there is differences SOOO SMALL is because some update and Upgrade there parts faster than others all from the sam mfg BUT the ones that are slightly behind will quickly catch up within months the most a year... It truly is like McDonald's... For instance the company ( LECTRIC ) wich I think is the most popular ( seems to be behind upgrading ) this is because they got so big and has SOOOOO many bikes in stalk they can't keep up of have time. There staff keeps growing. Andu are incorrect about if bikes were made here . That use to be the case... Not any more . There was even articals about this that have been debunked. The problem WITH THESE HALF ASSED COMPANIES is you will never know the reliability or integrity!!!! Most of them ARE JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE TO MAKE MONEY!!!! They probably have other half assed companies.. just trying to get some of the action!!! THEY TALK ABOUT IN THE ABOUT IS SOME BOGUS STORY ( HOW THEY LOVE BIKES 🤣🤣😂🤣 LIES!!! They just want ur money!!! I know u like doing reviews and making money on u tube. so ur trying to get that action... E-bikes are hot right now... But I came to my conclusion quickly buy researching for a new EBIKE!!! LOOKING FOR INTEGRITY, COUSTMER SUPPORT... AND WHAT I FOUND WAS DISTURBING!!!! I know you don't want to hear it but .. all these bike reviews are LIKE WATCHING THE SAME REVIEW OVER AND OVER AGAIN.. yours are better than most. But it really is the same exact review with a different name on a bike almost the same exact everything. The only real differences is some of these companies get the more powerful motors from the same manufacturer, they may add hydraulic brakes instead of manual, they may use air shocks like some because that's the newest thing and have rare suspension. But that is just up to the middleman deciding if he wants to put the extra money in or keep the price down. But I mean come on you have to admit it's the same review over and over again I've never seen anything like it. And like I said some of them are on there game and upgrade quickly with the new controller and other things as I mentioned. For instance when I talked about the GeForce bike you said the controller was only 20 amps not even 3 months later they upgraded it to 22 amps.. now they're probably going to upgrade it within the next 3 months to 25 amps.. It's just a race to get to the manufacturers upgraded parts and put them in their bikes quicker than the next guy. BUT COME ON IT'S THE SAME REVIEW YOU HAVE TO SEE IT 😀 There's actually one company that makes them much better frame that I've never seen before... That is slightly different because of that and it can handle 831 lb they are not as up-to-date with the high-power controllers in other small things But the frame in the way capacity is something I've never seen And it's about $1,000!! The company name is. ( MIHOGO ) I don't think you've reviewed them yet. And you watch if that bike becomes popular everybody will be able to get THAT SAME EXACT FRAME. BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY MADE BY THE SAME MANUFACTURER EVERYONE'S BUYING FROM THIS COMPANY JUST GOT IT QUICKER.. Because of this no one can patent anything no one can be a special company and have the integrity of old school companies.. It really is disappointing.. I just don't know how many videos anybody can continuously watch that is basically the same identical thing over and over again with ever so slight upgrades that all the companies will have within the next 5 months!! I do like G-Force they have a good reputation but if LECTRIC could keep up with all the upgraded parts I'd probably go with them because their customer services probably the best.. they have a really good faculty if you go on KZfaq and watch of really good people who seem to care. They answer your phone calls they fix your problems. They just need to get on the ball to upgrade things more quicker to keep up with these small couple of people companies.. But man do I really love that the way capacity is 881 lbs from the company I mentioned. That bike is so strong..

Most places 1,000w is not road legal...don't need the hassle. A solid 750w with 22 to 25amp controller is plenty. Over 750amp may be good for off road stuff.

@@elliotsokoloff same speed just more power for hills, besides I wanted to have 2 batteries so when my wife is not riding Ill take second battery with me.

@@elliotsokoloff an issue with these is they are often the same frame as designed by a bigger name ebike like Lectric, but missing stickers and dont have an online website with pictures to show a cop that its factory Class 2 street legal, no license needed. Higher speed than 30mph means "needs motorcycle license and insurance on public roads" these people are begging for a cop to take their bike and cite them for illegally operating without a license and insurance. I guess enjoy it while you can, but people can and do get license-required ebikes confiscated by cops. Battery upgrades to add range & acceleration are fine, you are perfectly capable of killing or permanently paralysing yourself in a crash at 28mph, I love speed but maybe go see how someone who carries a colostomy poop bag with them lives.

Sorry I haven’t had the opportunity to review one of those yet but maybe in the future.

The bike seems like a good bike and It had really impressed me. One of the main differences of most hunting bikes are that they are a mid drive which is a totally different riding experience and typically more power because the power goes through the chain and you can use the gears for the mechanical advantage. With that being said A hub motor May be all you need depending on what you were going to do with it. For the most part I typically prefer the way hub motors run because you have instant torque and speed with no pauses between shifting gears. Mid drives are great for Hills though.

Exactly! I’ve ridden motorcycles my whole life as well and there a Totally different experience than a motorcycle! You take roads and alleys in your town that you’ve never been on lol

@@JeremiahMcintosh I cringe at some of the ebike vids where they shoot thru a gate at the side of a school playground, down a sidewalk... VITILAN looks cool but the best battery I see is a 48V13.5AH. I guess size is limited by the internal size of the frame? Does that cause any heat issues when charging?

I’m not sure what you mean by this comment are you referring to what I filmed? I didn’t film by a school? And no you do not have to worry about overheating if charging it in the frame.

You mentioned, "Taking roads and alleys...you've never been on..." (with my motorcycle) And I was thinking of some of the ebike vids I've seen (not yours)... Thanks for the explanation on charging. Knowing the issues with heat and Lithium batteries, I worried they might get too got in there say, charging in the sunlight, inside the frame...

@@JeremiahMcintosh After much 'shopping' I have ordered a twinky to the Vitilan, ie, a Polarna M6, 1000W 18AH. Should be a foldable beast!

I don’t think the regular I7 has a Bafang motor but the I7 pro states that it does.I’m not sure why they don’t mention the brand name all the time but I would say the Bafang is more well-known and probably better to go with in my opinion. Although I have never had any problems with one of the non-branded motors you you never know and I’m not 100% sure but I would think the Bafang may be easier to get parts for because it’s so well-known. I believe the I 7 pro. also comes with namebrand battery.

@@JeremiahMcintosh TY, JM. I should have stated the I7 Pro. I have seen some reviews stating that name branded batteries, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, are better that non branded. Also, their CS may be an issue. I have not received a return email in several days, and their phone number does not go through.

I’m not really sure because I haven’t had experience with their customer service but that’s definitely something to think about. Keep me updated.

Never heard of it before.

Never even heard of it?

I would probably go with the I7 pro. The engine pro that I reviewed had something weird about the throttle that limited it when you are peddling and using throttle at the same time. If they have changed it since my review then it would be a harder decision but if not definitely the I7 Pro.

@@JeremiahMcintosh thank you

Possibly but it would have to be set in really far for the trigger shifter to work. Typically on an eight speed with this kind of shifter the throttle is always on the left.

I understand, so I’m thinking maybe switch to a throttle style on the right and you shouldn’t have change the shifter… right?

I prefer these mags by far.

Not sure. Maybe you have the I7 pro version?

Not sure but I do have the U7 coming soon.

That one is actually ul certified and has that bigger 16ah lg battery but I’m sure u knew that !. The sales rep sent me the ul certification report bc the certification was listed on their site but not Amazon .

Perry do not reply to anyone telling you that you won a free bike that is a scammer trying to use my profile picture.

I ordered i7 Pro which now includes a 16 amp hour battery, a bafang motor what’s up to 1200 W and the controller is 25 A. I also noticed that it does not use the bell, and actually uses a loud horn and turn signals. This is the best folding Ebike made.

@@lloydgriffin546 nice update. Mine does not have a horn or turn signals.it has very good power. Does your display shows the wattage output?

How do you like it

Thanks. It’s just called speedometer lol

I’m thinking of getting the v3 u don’t like it?

I have a v3 version and it works the same way. Little lighter though because of lower tier forks. But it has throttle and not thumb trigger. I like my v3

@@Villager- awsome thx 😎☝🏽

I really want to know the difference between the I7 and v3. They look identical, but one is substantially cheaper (v3). I see that the I7 has a few updates and can go farther, but the V3 is faster.

Good tip! I’ve heard of others doing this but never tried it myself.

@@JeremiahMcintosh highly recommend it if reach is a issue

@@goldbearbunny4787 Thanks for the tip! How much closer does it bring the bars to the seat aprox.?

@@steveh1510 I would say about 5 inches closer. It was so close I flipped my back into its normal position

@@goldbearbunny4787 Thanks!!

There are a lot of different feat on this bike. It’s definitely not the same although yes it does look a little similar.

how many miles you get from full to almost empty on pas 5?

@@cbre1971 I never ran it out to dead but I've gone 30 miles with still juice left. I have the 16 AH battery, the new ones are 20 AH but the bikes are heavier. I'm still pleased with it.

Not sure what you mean

@@JeremiahMcintosh At 4:40 on your I7 video you say black and white LCD screen Vitilan i7 Ebike review ~ A Folding Fat Tire ebike that does not disappoint! And on the U7 at 3:56 you say and show color on the U7 Vitilan U7 Folding Fat Tire E-bike review [] Best Value Step-Thru Folding electric bike? And I am not trying to be a jerk, As I said I am old retired and trying my best not to make a mistake I can't afford. It just surprised me that the cheaper U7 would have a nice color and the I7 Pro would be black and white.

Ok gotcha. The bike I reviewed was the original I7 that’s no longer available and not the I7 pro so maybe the pro does have a color display not 100% sure on that because I haven’t tested it.

G force recently changed the frame design for bigger batteries. The Battery I got with my G force was a 10.4 amp hour battery which will work in the ENGWE, Lectric , and Geleisen however on their newest shipments I believe the battery is larger and the 10.4 amp hour is no longer available it now starts at 11.2Ah. Without me having the newest design with the biggest battery there’s no way for me to swap them to see if they work but currently my GeForce battery does not work with this bike.

@@JeremiahMcintosh ahhh I see. Yeah the G-Force now has 11.2, 16, and 20ha batteries available for the new frame. Obviously makes the price go up if you get the higher AH batteries

​@Jeremiah Mcintosh does any other brand battery fit in the vitilan i7 pro? It appears to be a posible dch009 battery?

With the 4” fat tires it performs well in those scenarios!

Hey Jeff….Yeah they definitely are expensive. The rack that I use is the overdrive sport 4 but only use it for 2 bikes and I’ve done a video on it if you want to check it out. I doubt it’s the best one but it’s working well for me. If you did narrow it down to the 2 Vitilans and my videos were helpful for you please consider going through the link under my Vitilan video when ordering to help support the channel and mention my name to them that I should get the commission because they always give me a hard time about it. Note..if you visited their website through google before visiting it through my link I will not get the commission so you would have to use a different device to order if that’s the case. I hate to ask and no big deal if you decide not to but if you do then thank you in advance because it all helps! Please let me know if you have any other questions.

@@JeremiahMcintosh I did order them at lunchtime today - not thinking! But I sent an email trying to cancel the order so I can use your link. I tried calling as well, twice and can’t reach them. So I have to sit and wait. Actually, I tried calling them for days to ask a few more questions - but because I couldn’t get through… I had it in my mind to just order online and not continue to wait, so I went there in stead of thinking about your link. Totally no brained it! Sorry. If my message gets through and they cancel the order…. I will use your link for sure. Your videos were extremely helpful. I wasn’t thinking!

If they don’t catch it… I will email or keep calling, and I will speak to them personally and explain how helpful your videos were, etc. For sure.

No worries just glad to help. I appreciate the efforts tho.

@@JeremiahMcintosh Update. Though I canceled my order within 30 min of ordering... they want to charge me a 5% "handling fee" for the cancelation. WOW! That's $150. I also learned the bike is a little taller than expected (according to many). So not sure if my wife (5'0) would do well on the U7... even if she doesn't have to touch the ground while seated. According to many... the U7 is more well-suited for someone 5'4 and taller. Anyway... I'm very disappointed in their customer service as it relates to this cancelation... and it makes me nervous about dealing with them at all going forward... just to be honest. I've heard it's a great bike though.

You would have to change out the stem as well

Hi Pedro. With the current coupons on Amazon I don’t feel like it’s to bad of a price for $1440-$1500. With this bike you get nice hydraulic brakes, a bigger battery that’s hidden inside the frame, mag rims, Dual suspension, A better more adjustable air front fork, 8 speed versus 7 and a derailer guard, and without putting them side by side I’m pretty sure this bike has more power. Those are some of the main upgrades in my opinion off the top of my head.

Found it, thanks!

Hmm that’s strange. I just checked it and it works so maybe it’s just not available internationally? I not really sure. Sorry

Completely different. In my opinion they look nothing alike.