You are blessed by KZfaq my friend

4 years later.... done the same thing!

All I can say that I'm happy you did because I composed this tune for a videogame back in the 80ies and now you get to enjoy it for what it is. 🙂

You have a real ear for music, and you're a legend of music itself, so of course you'd take it at heart to point out if it's done correctly! I'd hate to hear your hard work get a cover only for it to suck and not do it great justice. Also, I want to ask, if you could name ONE SID tune you composed, which one are you the absolute most proud of? I LOVE Ubi-Sound SO MUCH. The 3 channel harmonies at the beginning with the echo of the fourth channel going on, sounds almost like Queen in a way, and I REALLY dig that.

master himself responded. grats!

16!?!??!??!????!?!

Yes. 16. =)

Hey! Thanks for all the kind words! Regarding your question: My personal favorite is kind of hard to pick. Cybernoid 2 is indeed one of them, but emotionally Supremacy is my #1 at this point. =)

Haha, he raised it a little more when doing the C64 Orchestra arrangements... ;-)

Mine too

Yeahhhhhh

sid better

1. SID 2. 2A03 3.AY 8910

My preferences are 1. SID 2. POKEY 3. AY-8910 4. 2A03 5. TIA 6. TED 7. VIC

The AY8930 is my favorite PSG because it accidentally is a hybrid between SID, PoKEY, and AY, with some 2A03 quirks. The AY8930 is like SID in that beyond square waves you can change duty cycle, though for proper PWM, you need to use noise masks on top of a square wave to result in true PWM. The AY8930 can also do SID's triangle, saw, saw sawpulse, and tripulse due to the envelope generator which if you enable it, disable square and noise, and use the higher end of its frequencies with the repeating envelopes selected, you can get triangle, saw, and reverse saw waves. If you turn on pulse and/or noise mask square, it will give similar results to C64 when you turn on pulse and triangle or pulse and saw. Changing the duty cycle of pulse in this mode, like on the C64, is possible. Also you can get PWM by saw+reverse saw, or fiddling with tone + envelope like ZX Spectrum users did, but you have more freedom. The PoKEY similarities happened because you can do tone+noise (on regular AY this was used to get better snare drums) and on AY8930 you have noise masks to control the noise sounds, and one of them somehow turns the noise into a square wave. If you do this while playing a square or pulse of the correct pitch, you get PWM. However, this exact same method especially if used with non-square tone can be used to get Atari polypulse waves, and in this case it's quite literally exactly what Atari PoKEY 2-tone is. People have actually used the AY8930 to make dial tones, which the PoKEY 2tone mode is precisely for. Except you only need one channel on AY8930. The AY8930 inherits all AY features and bugs, and improves them. You can use envelope and noise on multiple channels, you of course have better pulse, and 5bit volume rather than 4bit. You also have better noise. It's also completely pin-compatible. The AY8930 is like 2A03 in that it has a low-bitdepth triangle wave that you have to use tricks to soften (on 2A03, you need to use DPCM values, on AY8930 you need to use ultrasonic pulse waves and/or ultrasonic square mask noise), it has configurable noise, it can do PCM (via disabling tone, noise, and envelope on whatever channels you wish, then writing your PCM as volume register commands), but most strikingly, cycling through AY8930 duty cycles reveals that they're effectively extended 2A03 rather than anything good for PWM, hence why you need noise masks. The PCM feature is actually part of why the envelope is usable for non-square audible waves. The PCM, audible envelope, noise mask PWM, noise mask polypulse, tone+noise drums, and tripulse+sawpulse were entirely unintended but the pre-AY8930 ones got made better deliberately by General Instrument/Microchip Technology. They knew what people did with hardware flaws, and rather than fix them, they improved them and made them features in the process. Remember that the envelope was intended for fadeouts on slow CPUs, not as a waveform. The AY-3-8910 was intended to be a simple beep chip, it and its descendant just got used in fortuitous unintended ways, and the creators found it inspirational. Basically, the AY8930 is like SID, PoKEY, and 2A03, and it can be coaxed into doing VIC20 noise and polypulse. Also if you have a Gimmick cartridge or a Sunsoft 5B, 5A, or FME-7, with some soldering, you can put an AY8930 into a Famicom game without defining an entirely new mapper. Basically, AY8930 as a Famicom expansion is already possible. Also, the AY8930 is somewhat of a hybrid between the Famicom PSG expansions. It's a 5B that you can use multiple envelopes and PWM on, has more volume, can do PWM, and can produce polypulse sounds beyond what 2A03 periodic noise can. It's a match made in heaven. Also, Microchip Technology is quite literally General Instrument's semiconductor division which outlived the main company. Microchip Technology is still in business and one of the larger computer chip companies in today's world. They currently make logistics chips including flash memory. Theoretically if you paid them enough to make their eyes widen, you could obtain a batch of new AY8930s. The AY8930 only got used in stuff like the Covox Sound Master, so finding AY8930s is harder to do than regular AYs. Also Yamaha licensed the wrong AY from GI in my opinion. I use 2xAY8930+YM2612+YMZ280B to replicate a better OPNA/OPNB2, or 2xAY8930+YM2612 to replicate a better 2xOPN1 Why 2xAY8930? It's because for Mega Drive compatibility more than 3 PSG channels are needed. The PC98 would have been better with AY8930s in OPNx chips as their PSGs rather than regular AYs, but you could just fake them with volume register PCM on all PSG channels. Also AY8930 is supported by VGM. In the VGM specification header for AY/YM chip type, the AY8930 is specifically there. 2xAY8930 is totally possible in VGM (2x of any chip is allowed in VGM.) The Mattel Intellivision which used all-GI chips with the ECS addon supported 2xAY. If you wrote a player and replaced the internal and ECS AYs with AY8930s, then you could do 2xAY8930 but there are better options. The Atari Falcon still has YM2149 support. If you soldered an AY8930 into the 32MHz Atari Falcon, you could do some wild things with it. Also, AY8930 chip clock according to the datasheet is ideally maximum at 4MHz. High clocks allow the envelope to go higher. The AY8930 is just so cool!

its a cover, this would never play on an NES.

@@thelasthallow what HW does play this then? not HW specific?

@@kangarht This is a cover of a song that was on the Commodore 64, this song as it is probably could not actually play on any old PC.

@@thelasthallow I'm coming from the c64 scene, so that I know, I thought this is some kind of song that pushes the NES limits and plays on NES HW, but then this is just done in some kind of modern tracker I see :) thanks

@@thelasthallow If the Follin Brothers could squeeze their music into the poor 2A03 this thing can also play there.

You high?

it's kinda like primitive sidechaining, pretty cool

samples only

As long as I'm called "Jeroen" I'm fine, +TastySnax12 Just kidding! :-)

The DPCM sample sounds are for percussion, but it was rarely used because of how much space it took up. So most composers altered the triangle channel between bass and percussion. These channels were used in combination with noise because noise alone sounds kinda thin. This thickens the percussion up enough. In this case, both methods are being used.

"agressive bass"? i think you are just never heard the really agressive chiptune bass sound, whicvh is unlike regular triengle channel sound can really be agressive

@@antihumor2231 DPCM percussion is used way more often than triangle percussion. Most games that didn't use DPCM didn't use the triangle, either.

you can only do so much with a 1.2 MHz processor tho

The NES has 1.79MHz (in US, 1.66 in PAL). Granted, the ZX has 3.5 MHz, but it still should be possible for 1-bit PWM. The big issue I think might be RAM, as the NES has 2KB system RAM compared to the ZX's 16/48/128 KB.

Real-time 3D is possible, so I think this is too

FUTURE10S always push the boundaries!

@@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire A 2A03 compares similarly to a Z80 as 6502 does, so a 1MHz 6502/2A03 is going to give you the equivalent of a Z80 clocked at 2MHz. With that in mind, the NES has plenty of oomph as far as the CPU goes to do the job.

yeah! nfs would be absolutly awesome. yt is such a terrible format

@@doktoroptimo no u

Sorry to write that: But the "cover" is so much better, yet just another Chiptune, but clearly better than that muffled SID.

@@olynxmano SHUT THE FUCK UP

@@olynxmano please fuck off

I agree. As much as I love the original, this takes it up a notch. Absolutely beautiful!

Vinesauce? Wow, which one?

One of the _AI Dungeon_ streams that Vinny did. I forget which one, exactly. Sorry.

@@JoLiKMC Is okay. I have binged watch/listen Joel's streams before, so why not Vinny? :P Thanks! Edit: typo

but how is he doing it and making it sound smooth i have tried to replicate that PWM in famitracker and i cant get it to sound that smooth not even close

patrick97764 Did you cross 50%? Try only using 12.5/25 and 50%..

so i had it going 12.5,25,50, and it was too fast so i made it slower and then it sounded like a phone ringing i also did try 12.5,25,12.5,75 again sounds like a phone

patrick97764 Mhmm......maybe he's using a higher clock frequency ? It definitely never hits 75%....

The little vibrato on it helps a lot.

I love you

ya when i heard that i nearly shit my pants it sounds so good

was actually pretty simple, just recorded some chords, imported them, and placed them right after the kicks and snares.

Oh yes, I would like to hear a cover of that, this way. =D

^ This needs to happen! ^

Do Golden Axe with a Yamaha DX-7 Synthesizer keyboard and a multitrack reel-to-reel recorder...

Kleines Wichtelchen Yes.

triangle channel

Haha, didn't have to say it myself. =D

Can you make a SIDWiz view of this? Also I want the FTM, by the way can you give me the sheet music, also can you whistle the Simpsons theme backwards for me while composing music in Famitracker

because sidwiz is weird and sometimes renders waves upside down, or at least this version does

no. i disagree. good version of good music. not brutal at all. even the original composer of this song likes this version. in fact, he commented.

What makes you think it's brutal? Nothing's brutal!

Literally no one agrees with you

SidWiz 2, got it from RushJet1's about page on YT.

The ZX Spectrum version uses a different sound chip for the title screen.

Because I was only hired for the C64 version.

@@antihumor2231 just listen this two musics to understand that sound chip does not matter kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eb2bh5Rplc6yfHk.html (C64) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNGlaNenprTMd6c.html (zx 1bit beeper)

Evil is live reversed. 999 then?

lamar