Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls

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Dr. James Tabor gives a brief taster of his ten-part lecture series, Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls. What, exactly, are the Dead Sea Scrolls? Why are they important to modern Christianity? What does the community of the Dead Sea Scrolls have in common with the Jesus movement?
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@LA-kc7ev 6 ай бұрын

I just wish to add that, in addition to a fine scholar, James Tabor is also a fine human being. Thank you James for all your work and all that you share with us here on KZfaq.

@marycollis6900 10 ай бұрын

And we do look into what he says and read further from his reading suggestions! Glad James recognises this. I’m loving these talks and courses.

@bluesoulsearcher5424 10 ай бұрын

Have been loving this channel! I’m always desperate for more XD I love the discussion looking at what the original texts actually say vs how they’ve been ‘smoothed over’ for different purposes. Thank you so much for this interview.

@kenwin5845 10 ай бұрын

Interesting discussion. I learned a lot, thank you.

@rwatson2609 9 ай бұрын

Love your glasses Megan, but I really came here for the Ancient Sumerian content.

@MrsAvocada 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video! (Side note, you may want to update University of Chicago in your description as it is no longer the OI.)

@SuzumeMizuno 10 ай бұрын

Wonderful, thank you very much for sharing!

@tghodosko7259 10 ай бұрын

Great show!

@Lightwing47 10 ай бұрын

Finally knowledge about this I can trust! :) Thank you so much :)

@pragmaticcrystal 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@tawan20082008 10 ай бұрын

thanks!!!!

@mikeharrison1868 10 ай бұрын

Ta muchly 😊

@arthurpletcher7299 8 ай бұрын

The Catholic Bible has always included the Septuagint.

@dragonhawkeclouse2264 10 ай бұрын

Separated according to the number of the benai ha'elohim It is interesting that yhwh calls the children of Israel, that they are children (benai) of yhwh your god Then there are 70 nation's, and 70 children of Israel who descended into Egypt It is present to me that the benai ha'elohim are the children of israel

@dloner9628 7 ай бұрын

even before children of jacob/israel and jacob/israel himself existed,benei ha elhym have existed already. so ha elhym saparated the children of adam not according to the number of children of jacob/israel. and adam is also benei ha elhym,dnt be so cocky jst bcoz of children of israel status

@LA-kc7ev 6 ай бұрын

The benei elohim are an order of angels, distinct from the 'sons of Israel.'

@dragonhawkeclouse2264 5 ай бұрын

both of you seem to be missing the point if you were to do a search in the bible for "sons of god" or "children of god", they are EXCLUSIVELY humans when they are clearly identified.......there are a couple of places where they are not clearly identified, and people want to jump to claim angels, ignoring all of the cases where they are clearly identified as people as for the sons of god being an order of angels, that is humans CLAIMING that these are angels try looking into Dan McClellan......sons of elohim is easier understood in a polytheistic frame work, with the god EL, and his 70 children.....this being set aside for a moment......the term sons of god, was Adam not a son of god? According to the new testament, he was.....it is safe to say that every human being who was made by god, was a child of god......and since Eve declared that Cain was with the help of god, Cain was a son of god the benai ha'elohim, i am NOT saying is just for the children of Israel, but rather any person who gets attributed as being a child of god again, them being an order of angels, that is a HUMAN CLAIM.......there has never been any angel that identified itself as being one of the order of benai ha'elohim....that is humans, not knowing what to do with this term, and wanting to believe them to be angels they were NOT angels they were either, the sons of EL, such as Ba'al, or humans who were either directly created by god, such as Adam, or humans that were created with the assistance of god, such as Cain

@dragonhawkeclouse2264 5 ай бұрын

@@LA-kc7ev what biblical text says that?

@kevinvaughan4596 10 ай бұрын

This raise a great question what came first the Septuagint or the Tanahk?

@mikeharrison1868 10 ай бұрын

"Early" version of the Tanakh first, then Septuagint. Then Massoretic version of Tanakh sometime later. There are some differences between the early and later versions of the Tanakh, but probably not as much as between the texts recept us and a modern critical edition of the NT.

@kennethbrownsher1264 10 ай бұрын

@@mikeharrison1868 THE Church had their own versions of the Septuagent, which only was the 5 books of Moses

@mikeharrison1868 10 ай бұрын

@@kennethbrownsher1264 Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean. There are a number of places where the Septuagint differs from the Hebrew text. One of the points of contention between the faiths is that Christians abused (what Jews regard as) the incorrect renderings of the whole Septuagint to prove their points about the Messiah. Can you elaborate?

@divinelyautistic 4 ай бұрын

So El Elyon decided to divide the world according to the sons of El. Then Yahweh, being a son of El, was given to the Isrealites. Hmmm interesting 🤔 Maybe that is why Noah said, " Blessed be the god of Shem". As if Japheth and Ham would have their own gods

@loisleonard9436 7 күн бұрын

They are one and the same.

@johnrichardson7629 10 ай бұрын

New drinking game. Take a shot every time Megan says 'thank you'!

@DigitalHammurabi 10 ай бұрын

You will be drunk VERY quickly!

@johnrichardson7629 10 ай бұрын

@@DigitalHammurabi Yep!

@curlymyhero 10 ай бұрын

Jesus was an Essene disciple.

@mikeharrison1868 10 ай бұрын

That's likely overstating the case. As prof mentioned, they likely arose from the same milieu.

@belteshazzarbenyakovleib4009 7 ай бұрын

John the Baptist may have been an essene not Jesus

@curlymyhero 7 ай бұрын

@@mikeharrison1868 well if u know your 1st c Judeac history the Essenes lasted until 70 ad. So don't tell me I'm overstating the case here

@mikeharrison1868 7 ай бұрын

@@curlymyhero main problem is with the word "was". There are similarities and differences. Qumran is in a different locale, easy to travel between Galilee and Qumran now, not so easy then.

@mikeharrison1868 7 ай бұрын

@@curlymyhero Hi again. Turns out I didn't know quite as much about the Essenes as I thought. Some scholars maintain they mostly lived in Qumran, but Josephus and others say they lived all over. Yes, I hadn't realised they persisted so long - some scholars arguing they survived even past 70AD. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes#Christianity is good. I knew nothing of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odes_of_Solomon before. Lots of folk think they're late 1st early 2nd, but their proto-orthodoxy feels a bit more developed than that to me. Best wishes

@kennethbrownsher1264 10 ай бұрын

Being a Messiah did not get you killed. One called the Egyptian had a larger following then Jesus. His group was also massacred by the Roman's. No one was allowed to challenge Rome and The Ceasars.

@DrVictorVasconcelos 9 күн бұрын

Well, it did, because being a Messiah in the Jewish tradition necessarily meant challanging Rome. It meant being the person who'd restore the sovereignty of the kingdom of Israel, which necessarily meant removing whoever was in power.

@pansepot1490 10 ай бұрын

13:13 COMMUNISTS ! 😉😄

@calumbutter8959 8 ай бұрын

lolol

@beverlynielsen860 25 күн бұрын

What do you mean communist?

@barnsweb52 Ай бұрын

Tabor is in denial or deluded. For example, he says Paul's are the earliest Christian writings we have, which is a lie. Eisenman found DSS writings (pre-70) that wrote about Paul being found a fake, liar, and troublemaker by the early Church when the apostles were still around. Second, Papais said the original language gospel (Hebrew gospel?) was well accepted by 40 CE, and even Jerome had read it and talked of it in the 300's to still be extant, but he promoted a altered Greek text. Do we have texts from others who said the apostles were liars and Paul was right - that predate 70 CE? These "scholars" are deluded. Onediscipletoanother orgainization

@barnsweb52 Ай бұрын

Does anyone else get very tired of listening to these has been drips under no pressure?

@observer6294 7 ай бұрын

Dead sea scrolls are fake.

@MossyMozart 4 ай бұрын

No, they really exit and are occupying many researchers in conserving, translating, and analyzing them.

@observer6294 4 ай бұрын

@@MossyMozart - That something exist, does not mean they are not fake. Too many of those have clerly been debunked and shown to be faked. And the fact, that all stories are in Bibel, that make it very odd, as Bible was put together from many parts, so only few ended in Bible, so how come only those chosen to Bible, was in dead sea scrolls. Those dead sea scrols was rejected first by many museums, as they saw they was fake.

@beverlynielsen860 25 күн бұрын

Why do you say that about the dead sea scrolls?

@observer6294 25 күн бұрын

@@beverlynielsen860 - Cos it has been proven that they are fabricated and false.