Jewish History - Origins of the Hebrew People (2a of 20 sessions)

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IISHJvid

IISHJvid

3 жыл бұрын

In the first session exploring Ancient Jewish History, Rabbi Adam Chalom, Dean - North America of the International Institute for Secular Humanistic Judaism, compares the traditional stories of Jewish origins with what can actually be known through archaeology and critical study. It may well be that, while they are important Jewish stories, the narratives of Abraham and Moses are not history.
Viewers might enjoy this past program on "Origins of Ancient Israel" by Professor Carol Meyers: • "Origins of Ancient Is... .
See the other videos in this series at • Introduction to Jewish... .
The recommended reading in Rabbi Sherwin Wine's A Provocative People: A Secular History of the Jews for this session is pp9-61. Available in print and e-book - more information at iishj.org/publications/a-prov....

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@cultofape1000
@cultofape1000 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a non jew I found this very interesting and informative. Thumbs up.
@brotheramfri
@brotheramfri 3 жыл бұрын
When European scholars speak of the historic Israel, they dismiss Egypt and Egyptian history. Yet, Egypt is mentioned 200 times in Genesis and Exodus alone. They clearly follow what seems to be an African tradition of unifying tribes through marriage. Kush and Ethiopia are mentioned separately. They should not be considered the same nation though they are the same people.
@frankrea2115
@frankrea2115 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@glennhood2941
@glennhood2941 2 жыл бұрын
Was the story of Abraham written down before the tale of Moses at Sinai ? How long were the Hebrew origins related orally ? Did Abraham really exist or was the foundation couple (Abraham and Sara) an adaptation of Brahma and his daughter/wife , Sarawati , from Hindu myths ? Abraham and Brahma are spelled the same in writing without vowels .
@Coffee_Is_Magic
@Coffee_Is_Magic 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video ^_^
@danchris2293
@danchris2293 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information, Rabbi. Ive recently been getting into discussions with my mom (whos a bit of a scholar in biblical studies) who believes wholeheartedly that the Hebrew God, or Adonai, chose the Jews as his people. And this began, among many others, a streak of multiple conversations on the topic of Judaism, monotheism, and the origins of Genesis.. based on your video, im curious of your research on the origins of Genesis, especially considering how Abraham hails from Sumerian culture and took some origin stories with him, consequently leading to Judaic origin stories and the global interpretation of our origins and purpose, which all/most seem to stem from ancient Sumeria? And therefore, who were these people, and how did their lineage last until today? Im also curious on your thoughts regarding the chronology of the Bible. Firstly being that it was essentially selected over generations; of course, it didnt spontaneously generate by the hands of God, it was created and preserved over millennia. But therefore i raise the question, is there any validity to the chronology depicted opposed to the True chronology? Are these Biblical stories we see today just a product of natural selection at the fallible hands of Man? i also ask this because a lot of the latter parts of the Bible, along with (i believe) many predictions/aspirations of the Judaic view, seems to depend on the chronology of events, bloodlines, prophesies, etc, being accurate. So if there isnt validity in this order of events, then the entire narrative crumbles, and the Bible becomes no more than poetic and metaphoric proverbs and parables. all religion crumbles. Now im not saying this is my view, but i am saying that im struggling to find Truth in any religion becomes it never seems expansive enough; it seems theres always a plothole that manifests simply to keep the story intact. I feel the Truth goes beyond any story, and well beyond our universe and even our dimension. In which case, is Adonai experienced whilst on the path of religion, or on the path of spirituality without dogma? Could Adonai only exist when stripped away of any preconceived notion, esp those of anthropomorphism? As you can see, there are many question marks in this ramble lol my spiritual path has been quite the journey of discovery:) Open to anyone's thoughts/feedback/opinions, etc. Bless up KZfaq
@in8187
@in8187 Жыл бұрын
The Lachish Reliefs at the British Museum can tell us a little about who the real Hebrews/ Jews were.
@hershelfowler6257
@hershelfowler6257 Жыл бұрын
Hebrew is a Canaanite language, canaanites are related to mesothelioma, and Egyptians. The bible claims Abraham to be a descendant of Shem, which is were semetic is derived. Semetic is a language, not a race, or a tribe. Samaritans speak paleo Hebrew " Phoenician " , while Israelis tend to speak a slightly different dialect of Hebrew. The difference is how words are pronounced, equivalent to someone in Boston saying car, and someone Maryland saying car.
@Yosaif-israel
@Yosaif-israel 8 ай бұрын
The revelation at Mount Sinai was to the entire nation, who their descendent are living witnesses to the current day, and all the events in the holy Hebrew Scripture’s have come to pass accept for the ones that are in the future, as for us being descendent of Abraham, which is a descendent of Aber, the first Hebrew
@Yosaif-israel
@Yosaif-israel 8 ай бұрын
As for the message of the Hebrew nation is not how the world was made, but why, which is the Eternal‘s desire to give
@Yosaif-israel
@Yosaif-israel 8 ай бұрын
That pottery with the inscriptions is not Canaanite, but Hebrew idol worshipers this guy is just full of nonsense
@janjordal9451
@janjordal9451 9 ай бұрын
The world UR in germanic languages does not go back to the Sumarian city of Ur.
@israelt.3739
@israelt.3739 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Rabbi Adam! How can I join Your community physically and geographically?
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid 3 жыл бұрын
Rabbi Adam Chalom is both Dean for North America of the IISHJ and the Rabbi of Kol Hadash Humanistic Congregation in suburban Chicago. There are Secular and Humanistic Jewish communities across North America - visit www.shj.org or www.csjo.org to find local affiliates.
@darkmattersproject2951
@darkmattersproject2951 2 жыл бұрын
Wow as a former Christian it's refreshing to hear some truth. I am curious to see what your other videos present. Well done
@ultraman1970D
@ultraman1970D Жыл бұрын
How do you know it is true? Just saying. How do you know?
@paulallenscards
@paulallenscards Жыл бұрын
@@ultraman1970Dprobably not the right question. Studying Jewish history in antiquity is about comparing and contrasting the biblical texts with the rest of the archaeological record. Lots of it appears to line up with the way we’ve parsed out history, and lots of it appears to deviate. Anyone in academia and hopefully most houses of worship will tell you that it’s a mixed bag.
@popeye12money
@popeye12money 2 жыл бұрын
The Quran does not say that there is a favorite son regarding Ismael and Isaac. No distinction is made between them in the Quran. The Quran does not waist time making any groups of people to be chosen. The Quran is more concerned with righteous behavior in humanity, not some small tribe. As far as Quran is concerned, being born to a certain a family doesn't mean anything, being a good person is more important.
@dorandacolbert5973
@dorandacolbert5973 2 жыл бұрын
The Quran came along after the idea of One God had spread. The Chosen People were just the beginning point of this idea.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 2 жыл бұрын
There were camels in the area. They have found this out and yes there was camels in the Middle East.
@antoniodissenha1810
@antoniodissenha1810 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@ow2750
@ow2750 3 жыл бұрын
well done lecture. congrats. from etienne dipl. theol. uni.
@colinroach7815
@colinroach7815 6 ай бұрын
@2:26 The problem is, the Torah say's that God asked Abraham to sacrifice his only son Isaac, when Isaac was the 2nd son, so how did he become the only son; was Ismail chop liver ????
@klyetruman7285
@klyetruman7285 2 ай бұрын
You're missing the context. God made a personal promise to give Abraham a son at an appointed time,WITH SARAH. Sarah became worried that Abraham would not have a son because of her age. Therefore, she gave hagar to Abraham to wife and have a child with her. Abraham received Ishmael but it was not according to God's promise. This is the reason that Issac received the promises of God. Abraham was then tested to sacrifice the very son, which he asked God for. God regarded Ishmael as a son to Abraham. Ishmael was illegitimate in the eyes of God because of the promise God made that SARAH would provide him a son. There is no problem, except your lack of understanding the context. This guy was way off on about 50 percent of what he was saying. Everyone sounds good when there is no one present to debunk their claims. He clearly does not know the scriptures.
@eugenio1542
@eugenio1542 3 жыл бұрын
As a "struggling (secular/ humanistic) Christian / Buddhist". I was searching for this information and found it here. Presented with "warmth" and simplicity, from an open Mind AND Heart.. This IS TRUTH.. Thank YOU.
@Psychiatrick
@Psychiatrick 2 жыл бұрын
Eugenio: I take it the word "Jew", or "Iewe" is but 800 years old? In fact, ALL Tribes are set out in Genesis but the first reference to the word "Jew" is 2Kings25 at the second captivity! Does this help you along the road to Babylon?
@Musick79
@Musick79 2 жыл бұрын
its pretty simple in the Bible…but most don’t read it for themselves.
@Lagolop
@Lagolop 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know it is truth?
@johnrohde5510
@johnrohde5510 3 жыл бұрын
The synthetic common ancestor legend was common in the ancient world. Cassiodorus gave the Goths an ancestry that gave them common Trojan ancestors. In WW2 the Australians supposedly told the Papuans that they too were white because they also had hairy armpits.
@jayhendricks67
@jayhendricks67 9 ай бұрын
Let's Start from Noah and take if From there
@noelajones619
@noelajones619 5 ай бұрын
You need to investigate “is Genesis History?” and Timothy MaHony’s videos archeology of Avaris
@ArshadAnsari37
@ArshadAnsari37 3 жыл бұрын
At the very beginning, there was a mistake. Islam doesn’t suggest that Isaac was not favoured. It only claims that Ishmael was the one that was to be sacrificed as his only son. When Isaac came along Ishmael was moved out of picture because of the role Isaac had to play ... basically, the claim takes nothing away from Isaac’s importance, unless being a candidate for sacrifice is the only major importance ...
@jwill1027
@jwill1027 3 жыл бұрын
What is Ishmaels importance in Islam?
@user-mj4fe5od5f
@user-mj4fe5od5f 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwill1027 Ismaeel is the father o Arabs and prophet mohammad is his descendant
@salemsalem7867
@salemsalem7867 3 жыл бұрын
Ismaeel is NOT the biological father of Arabs only of Muhammad and maybe few thousands of Arabs
@danchris2293
@danchris2293 3 жыл бұрын
@@salemsalem7867 i think he meant that to say like "patriarch"
@dorandacolbert5973
@dorandacolbert5973 2 жыл бұрын
Where may one read the genealogical record from Ishmael to Muhammad?
@jennieredrose5819
@jennieredrose5819 3 жыл бұрын
@12:37 because duh, history repeats itself? Anyone living over 25 years on this earth realizes that.
@jayhendricks67
@jayhendricks67 9 ай бұрын
Read the Book 13th Tribe by Arthur Koestler
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid 9 ай бұрын
Koestler's book is not really a credible account; he was an author and journalist, but he was not an ethnographer or archaeologist or historian. There was a Khazar kingdom in central Asia that converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages, but the claim that the Khazars are the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews is not accepted by scholars, geneticists, etc.
@jlouize
@jlouize 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone pls help. Why was the old testament written in Hebrew language?
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 2 жыл бұрын
The Old Testament was written in Greek, it is the Christian rewrite of the Jewish tanakh.
@bradatherton9369
@bradatherton9369 Жыл бұрын
@@shainazion4073 the Greek version is called the Septuagint and was translated from the Hebrew Bible. Does this jive with your knowledge base?
@bradatherton9369
@bradatherton9369 Жыл бұрын
Probably not a direct answer, but since the Old Testament is not one book but rather a collection of texts written over time and across geography, there is no direct short answer. I'd suggest to study the evolution of the language. Hebrew descended from Afro-asiatic, which include Akkadian and Canaan languages. If the story holds true that the Israelites migrated from Egypt to Canaan to Israel, there would have been exposure to Akkadians, Midianites, Canaanites, Hittites, Phoenicians, etc. The language likely evolved due to interaction with other cultures. If you're interested in the OT, also read about Aramaic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages
@cynmethiawheeler3408
@cynmethiawheeler3408 Жыл бұрын
The entire Bible was written in Hebrew.
@jwill1027
@jwill1027 3 жыл бұрын
I’m confused...If you feel it’s not true, how can you be a Rabbi? I’m not Jewish but I would think a Rabbi would enforce the Torah? Please correct me if I’m wrong
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid 3 жыл бұрын
You can read more about our approach at iishj.org/about-us/secular-humanistic-judaism/. In essence, cultural and secular Jews can still used trained leaders, counselors, teachers and ceremonialists - thus "rabbis." Our training program is described at iishj.org/programs/rabbinic/.
@kumarg3598
@kumarg3598 Жыл бұрын
Isnt there a tomb for abraham in israel?
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid Жыл бұрын
The claim is that Hebron (which is in the West Bank, not pre-1967 Israel) is the same grave described in Genesis. Like claims to have found Noah's Ark, claiming a shrine to be ancient does not make it true.
@kumarg3598
@kumarg3598 Жыл бұрын
@@IISHJvid thank you for the response. I havr enjoyed your content. I know no one is allowed to do any archaeology there but surely the british or germans did some exploring/looting.
@TheMega300
@TheMega300 9 ай бұрын
On the notion that there is no evidence of Abraham, are you also implying their burial sites in Hebron are fake?
@guadalupejog
@guadalupejog 3 жыл бұрын
Minute 31, "we were more destructing than constructing" and I agreed because he just told about why he doesn't accept the Bible narratives about the Hebrew origins but he never honored the title of the video, offering a well documented theory about the truth origin of the Hebrews. Disappointed, more of the same🤨
@brandonmedina6157
@brandonmedina6157 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. This is just a doubtful video.
@matthewrogowski8526
@matthewrogowski8526 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't the Commandment, worship no other gods before me, mean that when it was written, these proto-Jews were allowed to worship other gods; just YVWH had to be number 1?
@ahshxushshs9101
@ahshxushshs9101 3 жыл бұрын
Was Abraham a ancient sea merchant
@jughound7923
@jughound7923 Жыл бұрын
Isaac's Oldest Son is the Sasquatch People as described in the Books of Genesis and Obadiah. So doesn't that mean Genesis 25:23 is Stating that "Jacob" is ALL Modern Humans ?
@bigfel3240
@bigfel3240 3 жыл бұрын
I like this guy.
@williamding2910
@williamding2910 3 жыл бұрын
@11:50, Yhwh and his Ashera... interesting.
@messengerofahayaiamjohn1738
@messengerofahayaiamjohn1738 3 жыл бұрын
That part ....
@katjagolden893
@katjagolden893 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t there some truth in myth?
@igorjemagor9212
@igorjemagor9212 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. We only do not know what part.
@Mcgif21
@Mcgif21 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, but it helps to hear what others sources to say to try and get a consensus.
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, just like history....
@annascott3542
@annascott3542 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there’s something intrinsic in myths belonging to the essential nature of what it is that makes us human and gives us meaning. Instead of characterizing as truth it’s more like gnostic knowledge or a knowing-different than a facts but to know something because it resonates truth to something deep inside you.
@beefynachos6574
@beefynachos6574 2 жыл бұрын
The art reminds me of the dogon tribe and their art
@jennieredrose5819
@jennieredrose5819 3 жыл бұрын
What kinda rabbi is this guy supposed to be when he doesn't even believe in any of the scriptures?
@slewcharles926
@slewcharles926 3 жыл бұрын
A good one
@Ofcjin
@Ofcjin 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here because of school lol
@fintonmainz7845
@fintonmainz7845 3 жыл бұрын
I'm baffled how intelligent people can, today, be adherents to any religion.
@janglestick
@janglestick 3 жыл бұрын
well, for one thing there is absolutely no explanation as of yet for the existence of consciousness, or why rationality embodies within us, or why you yourself are aware and at the center of the subjective universe. Dennett Moravec Minsky, who else, Pinker and Harris i guess, none of them have a functional model, and those who are working on a functional model do not have explanation. And probably, according to Godel / Cantor / Russell, and the incompleteness theorem, they never will. AI will never be actual consciousness, unless you count hooking it up to our "meat", which seems to end in the incredible complexity inside the microtubules of our neurons. Very few religions still insist on a literal interpretation, and it is somewhat of an artificial step backwards that one very distinct religion has sort of ... reverted to a literal interpretation, fueling conflicts. Admittedly, it took the western religions a way too long to catch up to this compared to the major eastern practices. Your words, your actions, they are all semi-arbitrary encodings of your culture that have been impressed into you. There is no "normal", and the people who ascribe to those books have chosen to share in a, perhaps somewhat calcified, set of beliefs and behaviors that they believe put them in accordance with a higher set of principles , rather than submitting to the happenstance of what culture wishes to impress on you, which at this point is a bunch of commercialism, corporate loyalty, and putting materialism and selfishness at the head of all. That's how the more enlightened tend to see it, and in the case of the Jewish people they are following the accordance in the book because they think that things went astray, and the connection to the way was lost, so they adhere to the letter of the law to some degree out of, yes, simple obeyance, because they are hoping to engage in the understanding and evolutionary flow that they feel was lost. Thus the re-establishment of Hebrew, etc.
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER 2 жыл бұрын
Purpose is needed for psychological health. Atheism is inherently psychologically damaging. That's why.
@izzykhach
@izzykhach 2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe everything that you see on KZfaq uncritically? Everything that the guy is saying is speculative and has not been proven. His ideas are simply his own hypotheses.
@TomiAdewoleAdetom
@TomiAdewoleAdetom Жыл бұрын
In being "baffled" by this, you are actually fulfilling prophecy: Psalm 14:1 "To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
@flyingcat7975
@flyingcat7975 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Lol.
@narinderdadral2750
@narinderdadral2750 Жыл бұрын
Between Genisis 1 and 2 there is a gap. This gap is millions years if not billions. This explains the preadamic man where they found wives. Ethiopia is the cradle of mankind. The science does not lie.
@veryoldjohnson
@veryoldjohnson 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't God just do away with the 'unwanted' people Him/Herself? Wouldn't that have been better, cleaner, more efficient? A written 'land grant/deed' would have been very useful also.
@jakecarlo9950
@jakecarlo9950 Жыл бұрын
@10:00 - Is anyone else registering that YHWH has a bull’s head…?!
@moonrak5935
@moonrak5935 2 жыл бұрын
The Bible said that Jacob's name should be changed to Israel. But it still calls him Jacob. The name change did not take place. Jacob's family of 70 people went to Egypt after the Pharoah invited them. After 430 years, the number of Israelites became at least 2 million of which 600,000 were men. Is it possible that their population grew by 30,000 times in 430 years?
@mohammedalseraji5342
@mohammedalseraji5342 2 жыл бұрын
Mizrain in old Yemen.. not i Egypt
@CrisusAttucks
@CrisusAttucks 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you are a Rabbi and still able to promote this, is true tolerance.....if an Imam was talking this way, islam would fatwa him in a NY sec.
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe whole Generations only had one name. So a buncha Jacobs and 1 Leah, 1Zilpah, 1 Rachel and 1 Bilnah per Jacob?
@frankherrmann8919
@frankherrmann8919 3 жыл бұрын
The German prefix Ur- has nothing to do with the town Ur. The term is a bit more than 1000 old, used in nordic or germanic languages for the origin of something. At that time the sumerian town of Ur was unknown here as was yet christianity unknown to a great number of people in northern Europe. Btw we can multiply the prefix, so a Urururopa is 3 generations before your granddad. Try this back to Adam!
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction!
@pruephillip1338
@pruephillip1338 2 жыл бұрын
It's been said often enough that the 'bible is guilty until proven innocent', and even then it's often not believed. And no wonder - there's a lot at stake.
@terrycihat4136
@terrycihat4136 Жыл бұрын
That`s why they hide the other gods of this world !
@JD-gw3fp
@JD-gw3fp Жыл бұрын
Thankfully The Bible still holds power.
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was the difference
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 жыл бұрын
Thought Abraham was Syrian.
@ejpak1452
@ejpak1452 Жыл бұрын
Finally refreshing to hear the truth
@redkendall4333
@redkendall4333 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this teaching, I could feel much was questionable, wrong. As an example what does 'seeing his father's nakedness' mean? Cross reference Lev. 18:8, 20:11. This has no reference to seeing one's father naked, it's a reference to not having sex with your step mother. Canaan brought with him the traditions of the old ways before the flood, then the curse from Noah was added, look where his descendants moved to, all the nations giving Israel troubles today.
@ibmmbi2317
@ibmmbi2317 3 жыл бұрын
The exodus was not about leaving Egypt for Syria/Palestine. Moses never arrived there. Instead, he fled south into Nubia and crossed the Tekeze River into Abyssinia(Valley of Tor Sina). Note, Tor Sina refers to the towering mountains on the Abyssinian Highlands of the African Plateau.
@sergiolozano7784
@sergiolozano7784 Жыл бұрын
Did you make that up or read it somewhere? It sounds made up like the exodus one.
@jeanoscar552
@jeanoscar552 3 жыл бұрын
The TRUTH is ithe book was not written to the people who interpreted it
@wesleygordon1645
@wesleygordon1645 3 жыл бұрын
Then why was it written at all ????
@Flametree1492
@Flametree1492 3 жыл бұрын
Is it fair to say that the originators of the Jewish religion took on wives from the lands they traveled? So, if true. then Jews should have North African and middle eastern DNA? Isn't Jewish identity passed on through the mother's line? If Jews are of middle eastern origins then why is their DNA today mostly European? I'm not trying to offend, I just would like to know.
@patrickbrownrigg1058
@patrickbrownrigg1058 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it is the mitochondrial DNA that is passed on and traceable, born by a Jewish women is how a child is really Jewish.
@mycomment474
@mycomment474 3 жыл бұрын
Nechemiah - Nehemiah - Chapter 13:23 Also in those days, I saw the Jews who had married Ashdodite, Ammonite, and Moabite women.
@MrChristianDT
@MrChristianDT 3 жыл бұрын
Realistically, the vast majority of Jews spread out of the Holy Land after the collapse of Rome & became white over 1500 years worth of generations, on one hand. On the other, Philastines apparently came from either Crete or Europe & Hittites came from the Caucasus, which is where the Caucasian/ white trace originated, so their DNA should also bear heavy influence on everyone in the region.
@jennieredrose5819
@jennieredrose5819 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently trying to figure that out myself
@jokerbeats5479
@jokerbeats5479 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrChristianDT hittites was aramaic sanskritic fathers of scitians turkhis iranians mix from achamenide erra israelites was in achamenides army after they separated settled in asia central asia line caucasus in caucas we found only turkhis iranians mix cultures even slavic tongue come from sanskrit aramic
@celinesleiman6001
@celinesleiman6001 3 жыл бұрын
As long the Phoenicians invented the first alphabet, that means they're the origin of any alphabet. not verse versa.
@celinesleiman6001
@celinesleiman6001 3 жыл бұрын
Koran NEVER said that Ismael is the favorite son!!!! haaaaa.
@user-mj4fe5od5f
@user-mj4fe5od5f 3 жыл бұрын
Muslims respect both sons
@unrealuknow864
@unrealuknow864 Жыл бұрын
The Koran was very late to the party. Like Mormons. Someone decided they didn't like a religion that was thousands of years old, and wrote down something to make up their own religion.
@terrycihat4136
@terrycihat4136 Жыл бұрын
How come you people don`t ever mention the god Abraham and his father was worshipping in UR ? Cause it disproves monotheism ? The history of Yahweh shows he was the god of the gold miners in the Sinai before the Hebrews got there. He has other names !
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid Жыл бұрын
We encourage you to watch later videos in this series, which clearly accept monotheism as an evolution out of earlier Hebrew polytheism. kzfaq.info/sun/PLyHcweASuE6_PI19EOGi0wqoAF8dbfV1C
@IndigenousHebrew
@IndigenousHebrew Жыл бұрын
I got to @10:00 and decided I was done listening to you teach doubt of a Bible older than you.
@robertdevino4109
@robertdevino4109 3 жыл бұрын
Funny Egyptologist will tell you there is no evidence of there being slavery or a slave trade in Egypt when the Joseph story supposedly takes place.
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata 3 жыл бұрын
That’s funny, I have seen Egyptian Stella’s about enslaving conquered soldiers and leading them bound into slavery.... In Image and Hieroglyphic writing....🤔
@patrickbrownrigg1058
@patrickbrownrigg1058 3 жыл бұрын
No they don’t
@MrChristianDT
@MrChristianDT 3 жыл бұрын
There wasn't an entire nationality of people that we can relate directly with Jews which was enslaved, but Egyptians were known to take enemies conquered in battle as slaves.
@unrealuknow864
@unrealuknow864 Жыл бұрын
@@VajrahahaShunyata name the Stella that shows that.
@yihia1
@yihia1 Жыл бұрын
Alll just personally interpretation per
@jeanegray2528
@jeanegray2528 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this lovely video,. it got my curious about my origins so I looked some online and took the My Bronze Age Origins test (Gene Plaza). I found out that I was 14% ancient Hebrew, the people of the Bible! I never knew I was Israelite, but I guess I should have known because I was always curious about the bible stories and always felt part of the people of the bible. Now I have proof. I have also 22% Chongoni Rock art , which fits with my ancestry because I am a quarter black. Just a warning, don’t get the beginner test, it’s cheaper but it doesn’t have the ancient people of the Bible.
@in8187
@in8187 Жыл бұрын
The Lachish Reliefs at the British Museum can tell us a little about who the real Hebrew/ Jews were.
@MrChristianDT
@MrChristianDT 3 жыл бұрын
So, between you & the handful of other scholars who seem to legitimately take this area of study seriously, it seems like the story is currently: --Egypt & Hittites fight over holy land back & forth for generations, until both cultures seem to suddenly go into serious decline at roughly the same time. --Around the time of that collapse, people in the holy land rose up against their existing elites (maybe out of wanting freedom & fearing that these people would sell them out to a more powerful kingdom again, though it does also coincide with the Bronze Age collapse) & the early Hebrews clearly rose up from those who already lived in the region. --Hyksos are Philastines & may be the origin of why Judea put rules about eating pigs into their religious writings, as the Philastines were the ones who brought pigs to the region initially, which eventually leads us to the modern Jewish practice of eating Kosher. --Israel & Judea had slightly different interpretations of religious doctrine, leading to them hating one another, which is probably why there is so much conflicting information in the Old Testament. --Yahweh clearly had a wife, showing some sort of pantheon. People keep hanging their hat on Asherah also being said to be Baal's wife, discounting multiple inscriptions tying an Asherah directly to Yahweh, having a place alongside him for worship in the temple & Asherah apparently being tied even to modern language in the region as just being "wife," which could easily mean that Baal's Asherah & Yahweh's Asherah aren't even the same deity. --The oldest mentions of the worship of anything approximating a Yahweh can he traced to the Red Sea region in general, from Sinai, through Saudi Arabia. --Ethiopians, with ties to Sheba across the Red Sea, have wildly different religious stories & interpretations, despite also identifying as Christian-- which Hebrews clearly venerated Sheba, so who knows how seriously we ought to take them. --and, if people demanding their own religion be true & refusing to acknowledge all evidence to the contrary didn't inspire enough confusion, we also have to deal with the fact that Israel & Judea were two of many Semitic cultures who all may have had their own religious variances & were blended with & built on top of other cultures related to or heavily influenced by Egypt & Mesopotamia.
@lizh1970
@lizh1970 3 жыл бұрын
An ashera is a tree !
@in8187
@in8187 Жыл бұрын
The Lachish Reliefs at the British Museum can tell us a little about who the real Hebrew/ Jews were.
@terrycihat4136
@terrycihat4136 Жыл бұрын
Iran=Persia was in charge with Ahura Mazda !
@jonjenkins
@jonjenkins 2 жыл бұрын
This is not a secular ( non Religious) history of the Hebrews
@deteodoru
@deteodoru 2 жыл бұрын
Rabbi, no other God before me, may well refer to adulturating and expanding religions based on imaginary psychoanalysis of God as well as avoiding he "deities" as products of imagination to suit personal or social interests. But I very much admire your adherence to the Laws of Physics, which themselves are sacrosanct, UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE! Realy, might we no see the Heavens as a vague feelings which, as dogs ae not equipped to read a newspaper, we are not able to understand?
@josephfarkasdi2694
@josephfarkasdi2694 3 жыл бұрын
Rabbi, why is it a mystery that mythical Cain was able to find other people outside of YHWH's portion of the land? The Six Day myth of creation is deliberately kept separate from the Gan Eyden myth of creation to allow for this. First the land and humans (in general), male and female together, is created out of already existent chaotic formless matter. Then, YHWH takes a Shabbat from "his" labor. Then, in parallel to the first creation story, a human is created to work the garden that is planted in YHWH's land, a mythical human that would be split into the Adam and Eve progenitors of the Levant peoples. Thus, when Cain murders his brother and is marked for exile and separation from his god's land, he very prosperously creates both a family lineage and city through intermarriage with non-Levantine people. The concept that all humans are descended from mythical Adam and Eve only becomes mythical reality after the great Flood myth. According to our Jewish take on this myth, all peoples after the flood are descended from Adam and Eve *through* Noah's family.
@aniankh
@aniankh 3 ай бұрын
"They knew it was true because they believe it was true" Classic agnosticism!
@terrycihat4136
@terrycihat4136 Жыл бұрын
Sumer was not the first civilization ! Arratta, which is in Turkey was a civilization that existed before Sumer. They built Gobekli Tepe ! Gobekli Tepe is 11,000 years old. So you had people in Turkey long before the Sumerians occupied Sumer.
@IISHJvid
@IISHJvid Жыл бұрын
Good point! The Sumerians pioneered writing, an important milestone in civilization that enables us to understand their culture even better than Arratta or other cultures.
@Lagolop
@Lagolop 2 жыл бұрын
The archaeologic evidence supports the Bible so much. I'm all for difference of opinions. I am not so much into personal facts". There are just facts; not yours or mine.
@subcitizen2012
@subcitizen2012 Жыл бұрын
Turns out Cleopatra was pretty average looking, I think it must've been more her status and genius that made her so appealing. She had a proper roman and middle eastern schnoz. I'm sure she was beautiful, it's whatever, it's just interesting how that became a myth and then how that reflects in our times as Elizabeth Taylor or whatever - the norms changing and what is regarded as beauty etc. All women are beautiful!
@imabeast7397
@imabeast7397 3 жыл бұрын
Moses was imhotep and is usually dated incorrectly. Moses is def history.
@latinmoses8417
@latinmoses8417 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Imhotep a high priest of ra?
@lizh1970
@lizh1970 3 жыл бұрын
@@latinmoses8417 look at abraham and the horites , the Egyptian kings were all the image of horus , horus is the young APIs, the APIs bull hapi ankh . The ankh is the breath of life prana . The bull or the cow also symbolises the moon the symbol for prana the breath of life . The egyptians called Horus apollo , he was called abbadon the destroyer , the king also bore the fire of the sun ie the serpent on the headdress of the pharoh , the third eye , the anja chakra the eye of shiva .
@hondacbrification
@hondacbrification 3 жыл бұрын
The pottery and general Jewish traditions and language and post Israelite stories are very Greek in a sense where the very pottery with a Bull figure is very similar to the story of Zeus,Europe,Io where the Lah a Lunar that Jews and Muslims worship is very similar to Hera the wife of Zeus whom he cheated Her with many consorts not to mention that Baal the Storm war deity has a loads of similarities with Zeus. Knowing that Jewish traditions just as Greek or Arabic language and stories are more closer related to Phonetian stories and cultures then that of Elomite and Ugaritis who actually worshiped Él as they own deity it raises basic questions whether the Jews did like Elijah story suggests becomes Phonetians Philistin or they where simply Philistins Phonetians from the start.
@jokerbeats5479
@jokerbeats5479 3 жыл бұрын
@Sophie Levant the phoenicians was north africans alger tunis maroco not greek philistine was greek indeed from crete
@Thracianbeatscrixus
@Thracianbeatscrixus 3 жыл бұрын
“Devine genitals” 😂
@eugenio1542
@eugenio1542 3 жыл бұрын
This subject is "bigger than God's underpants" Maggie Brown.
@Lagolop
@Lagolop 2 жыл бұрын
"Secular humanistic Judaism" is an oxymoron. Maybe in the leftist brain but that is another topic. Siting Haaretz is laughable.
@charlesedwards5333
@charlesedwards5333 3 жыл бұрын
nice guy but I don't like his conclusions
@antiganadasilva8899
@antiganadasilva8899 3 жыл бұрын
Abraham did exist.I know it hv proof. But would't spill it out here
@skobodabaws8946
@skobodabaws8946 3 жыл бұрын
What's "universal" 😂so Noah wasnt a jew n he was universal he says! Meaning?
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 2 жыл бұрын
Pre-Hebrews, not Hebrews, Israelites, or Jews, Humans.
@jeanoscar552
@jeanoscar552 3 жыл бұрын
Tou noticed yje servants are black but not tje patriarchs...interesting??
@synettalawson5084
@synettalawson5084 3 жыл бұрын
Political
@howardwhite1507
@howardwhite1507 3 жыл бұрын
If Abraham came from Mesopotamia and he understood history as they knew it, then his historical stories with obviously be related to theirs. This isn't a hard concept to grasp.
@MrJessieb123
@MrJessieb123 3 жыл бұрын
These are not the first inhabitants, the Lyrans fled their planet to the planet Earth after their moon was destroyed in a galactic war. They then set up camp near Egypt and built the pyramids of giza which were used to generate power for the Stargate. Humans are genetic hybrids of galactic beings.
@sergiolozano7784
@sergiolozano7784 Жыл бұрын
CogentX, I think I watched that movie too but I can't remember the name of it
@richardmoss620
@richardmoss620 Жыл бұрын
A lot of misinformation
@richardmoss620
@richardmoss620 Жыл бұрын
Evermore interesting and some things I didn't know
@melvinvines2238
@melvinvines2238 9 ай бұрын
Not Jewish, Hebrew and Israelites.
@stanlippmann2129
@stanlippmann2129 3 жыл бұрын
Abraham lived around 1800 BC. As usual, the rabbi is silly, doesn’t know anything.
@klyetruman7285
@klyetruman7285 2 ай бұрын
Jews/jewish people have nothing to do with torah. They were Hebrew people and Israelites.
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