For a guy his size he had deceptive speed

I straight up went on a football strike last year when he died

THE BEST fast strong agile and a beast for contact,ability is great you couple that with availability he NEVER missed a game... the only back that has almost all his gifts was Earl Campbell... Brown was the best Lacrosse player in the nation,average almost 40 points a game in high school basketball career,there was nothing this man wouldn't have excelled at!!

Thank you for being a good friend to Jim Brown. Most of us know only of the legend. But you know the man.

It's hard to believe you could be around JB and not never talk football.

Mike Forte, That's more than an opinion, That's a fact!

I'd say so too 100 yards per game and five yards per carry as a "career average"? that's insane and most likely will never happen again!

Absolutely!, the verry Best at his position"

We were living in Chicago in the Sixties. I was a Packer fan,not a Bears fan. But we got a lot of Clevelands games on TV. Jim Brown had it all and in my opinion,the BEST running back there ever was.

I agree with you that Jim Brown was the GOAT. However, don’t forget that he did have a bad game now and then. He wasn’t Superman. I recall the 1958 playoff against the Giants with a trip to the NFL championship against the Colts at stake, when he rushed for 8 yards in 7 carries. He could be stopped occasionally, and he was. From watching his highlight films, you would think that he ran for a TD every time he touched the ball. He didn’t. Sometimes he was completely shut down. He was also quite fumble prone, and Jim was not a particularly good blocker either. He had weaknesses in his game. Also, he was never able to defeat Vince Lombardi’s Green Bay Packers even once during his entire NFL career. NOT ONCE!!! Lombardi always contained Jim Brown whenever Green Bay played Cleveland. I think Brown was like 0-7 against the Packers over the course of his 9 years. And whenever he went head to head against Jim Taylor, Jim Taylor always got the better of him. Just sayin...

So right James ty

LT was an incredible physical specimen, but dont forget that he was jacked up on coke DURING GAMES throughout his playing career. Might have had a bit to do with his energy and endurance...

@@WhizzingFish12 that’s true then that’s pretty incredible as well. I don’t know if you e ever done coke before. it only lasts in small bursts , so he’d have to use many times during the game. Which I don’t see how he could do that and not get caught . Also it’s extremely dangerous to play sports on coke because your heart is racing dangerously even if you’re sitting there not doing anything , so if you’re overly exerting yourself on coke and I mean for a WHoLE football game that’s absolutely crazy. I remember having a race with one of my friends when we were super bumped up and I Remember getting done the race (sprint). And my heart was going so fast I thought for sure that was it, I was going to die. I literally thought my heart would rupture or seize and I would die. Scared the shit out of me . Never touched the stuff again. And this was 20 years ago when I was 22 and in perfect shape.. Also I knew LT smoked crack when he was in the league , but using during games is a stretch. I doubt that’s true

God bless

Hard to argue with that. Earl Campbell was as fun to watch.

He looks so big compared to those he played against

I have made this same argument for years 🏈🏈🏈

And finished fifth in the 1955 decathlon national championship.

And he was named the greatest athlete of the century

Yea how do you get Rice over Brown??

Bobby Boushea was just as good...my mama say put Bobby back in the game!

Derrick Henry says Hi

@@aJerseyThing Call me back in 8-10 years and we'll talk.

Were you there for that snowy /mud game? That was my first NFL game.

@@johngudites3142 hi John don’t remember a snowy game but they were all brutal contact, gang tackling affairs as the rules were more open to that type of play. I did go to the 1962 NFL championship game at the stadium between the Packers and Giants, Packers beat them again, brutal game as Giants beat up on Jim Taylor, who had beaten out Jim Brown that year for the rushing leader. I was the only New Yorker who was a Packer fan, loved their rushing style game, plus I thought Giants were overrated by N Y press. My pops and I were so cold that day , my fingers are still frosttbit today ! I was a Jim Taylor fan that year, but the greatness of Jim Brown was undeniable, he won the title in 1965.

Just to clarify, when I said he won the title in 1965 , I meant the NFC title because he was the rushing leader every year of his career except 1962.

I was wrong about the year his Brown's won the NF C title it was 1964

@@larrycasper4381 In 1964, Brown and the Browns won the NFL title, not the NFC title. The Buffalo Bills won the AFL title. Too bad they never played each other.

Like running thru Swiss Chess.

It's probably because they were all so slow that he had time to plan ahead. ;)

Jim Brown would be good in any era but most of those 50’s and 60’s defenders would not make it to the NFL draft in the 80’s onward. By the 80’s you had to have the size and speed to even be looked at.

@@davidd34 Well, the Swiss have a lot going for them, but they've never been known for their prowess at board games.

@@vestibulate With literally having only 1/3 of my brain left due to a TBI from being hit by a Huge Truck in 15 and a brain stroke last June, your reference to "Swiss" totally baffles me. Sorry sir, I just don't get it.

Goddammit Walter Paytin says hold my beer, here go HOLD IT !!!!

@@aarondigby5054 No. Payton, pound for pound wasn't the GOAT. Barry Sanders was better than Payton. OJ was better than both of them. OJ and Sanders played on losing teams just like Brown did. Payton (and Smith) played on stacked teams with great OLines. Brown, Simpson, and Sanders didn't. That's why they don't have Super Bowls. Hell, the Bears didn't even go to Payton for the key score to seal the deal. Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, and Barry Sanders are the Holy Trinity of Running Backs. It's that simple.

Home At Last, Would I be correct in thinking you are saying that weight lifting is not that good in some ways for running backs? Perhaps, all these injuries such as hamstring strains, knee injuries etc. are due to tightness from weight lifting. I say knee injuries because weight lifting puts a lot of strain on the joints.

@@captainwaring Quite honestly, I wouldn't be a very good judge as to WHY there appears to be more tension in their bodies. Are you saying that guys like Brown didn't lift weights? That they didn't really do weight training back then? I have no idea. I was thinking about this purely from a psychological standpoint. It seems that society today is more driven to push us to drive to go balls-to-the-walls for any goal --- just the straight line from point A to point B. And this creates psychological tension that manifests in muscular tension. But you could be right. Also, I'm not really that into sports. I mean, I don't watch football very much anymore. But I played tennis and built up a decent club ranking (4.5 at my peak), and I have also been a runner/jogger my entire life. I went through a biking phase. And I figured out more so through my running and tennis that when I was able to keep my body relaxed --- to get rid of the muscular tension --- I got into the zone and played fare better. I could react better in-the-moment the way Brown seems to be doing. My son (now 22) was a very good athlete, and I taught him this principle for his hitting in baseball. He used to tighten his shoulders and hike them up, and I taught him to keep his shoulders and hands totally loose, and his hips too, and it improved his hitting dramatically. I noticed years ago that Tom Brady seemed totally loose. If you look at old footage of Brady his shoulders are totally dropped, and his arms hang and dangle like wet noodles. If you look at Brown you can see his shoulders and hips are loose. Now that I look at these films again, I could be wrong, please correct me if I am, but it seems like Brown is keeping his core loose and fluid. It seems that today's players have these super-tight cores, and they use that to drive their legs like pistons. Whereas Brown's entire body is fluid, and it's like energy is flowing THROUGH him.

Sorry to go on, but it's an interesting topic for me. I'm a huge Elvis fan, and I sing too, and I even noticed that when Elvis performed he was constantly flexing his shoulders forward and down to stretch them and loosen them up. And if you watch him dance with Ann Margret in Viva Las Vegas (the "Come On Everybody" number), he is a better dancer than she is because she is all tight, and he is totally loose, his weight drops to his feet, and he remains centered and balanced and graceful, far more than she is, and she's a professional dancer.

@@HomeAtLast501 Hi Home At Last, I think you are absolutely right about the principles of training in sports and singing and dancing that you espouse. The Tom Brady method is based on pliability. Now, when it comes to dancing, I think Patrick Swazy said that he and his wife kept in shape through Pilates.

I’ve thought that too. Would be nice for the Browns to go to the Super Bowl before I leave this world, and I’m 20 years younger than Jim Brown.

Sadly that wont ever happen and we know that

Gratious thought, perhaps my dude Leroy Kelly will feel the same!

The Super Bowl wasn’t around yet while Jim Brown played but the Cleveland Browns did won 8 championship 4 in the aafl and 4 in the nfl before the super bowl started

@@Drew4Two I like to see some teams that's never been there I get tired of the same old teams going to the super bowl.

Allow me to second your acclamation. The footage exhibits well BROWN's stiff arm. Hard to argue BROWN's stiff arm was all time best from his playing days to the present.

Unstoppable in his prime

@@lloydkline1518 Yes, and his prime was all 9 seasons he played.

If you watch the recent A&E series about Playboy and Hugh Hefner, Jim Brown was a scumbag and a horribly violent sexual predator. He was an even bigger scumbag than Bill Cosby. WRZ 2022-03-11

@@ccdogpark you mean Harvey Weinstein?

Thanks for all that info! What a life he lived

Yeah sure

There will never be another Barry sanders too?

I like Gayle sayers better but didn’t have the career like brown of course.

@@roy1583 I watched Sayers for five years,every week.Maybe the most spectacular running back ever,with Barry Sanders.What unbelievable moves.He scored six touchdowns in a game,in the mud!Injuries cut his career.But Brown was like a HUGE update to anyone who played before him.What a great athlete,and was never injured in a 10 year career.

That 5.22 yards per carry average over a nine year career is simply insane!

Stats prove it!!

Someone commented that Jim Brown was as large as the defenders on the field. All large running backs are not elite athletes. But Jim Brown is the cream of the crop. The true measure of a running back is what he does between the tackles.

@@kengordon7462 Do you know what high school & college he played at and was he always a running back? It'd be nice to know his "back story." I remember he was in some movies too. After that I don't know what happened?

Wow!! Really? Cool!!

He seems awesome. But let's be real and understand that he wouldn't score easily like that these days.

@@ADEEZY1926 Are you kidding me? With the shitty defenses today?...these clowns today don't know how to tackle...it's a lost art. They don't want to work at it! Today's football "players" want to have "FUN"! I don't think they'd have "fun" trying to tackle Jim Brown! These stiffs today are more worried about "dancing" in front of the camera than actual playing> When Brown played...(1957-1965)...you had real men playing football. With the rules today...it's more like "flag" football now! You don't see Jim Brown running out of bounds like they do today to avoid being tackled!!!

@@ADEEZY1926 He was basically Derrick Henry of his time, I genuinely believe he would be just as good today.

He couldn’t beat Lombardi’s Packers. Was 0-7 against them over his 9 year career. If you are the GOAT, you beat everybody.

@@frederickrapp5396 Butkus is the goat of middle linebackers. He played one side of the ball and never won a championship. Brown played one side of the ball and won a championship. Point is everyone will not win championships. Just my opinion.

And he never missed a game which is rare for a running back also Barry sanders never missed a game

The highlights are definitely impressive but you have to consider the era he was playing in. Most defensive players had little to no form of technique to their game and relied on brute force.

Derek Henry is like a Jim brown clone not the other way around had the speed like Barry and the power of Henry makes the best rb ever

Merlin Olsen said about the same thing. He said the hardest he ever hit a player in his career was a hit he put on Jim Brown. He said when he opened his eyes he expected Brown to be lying on his back with his eyes rolled up in his head. Brown just bounced off and went in for a TD.

Alex Karras told a story that in an all-star game, both he and Gino Marchetti hit Brown at the same time, thinking they hurt him and fully expecting him to go down, but Jim recovered his balance and went 60 or 70 yards for a TD. He told that story in one of Plimpton's books.

@@jamesanthony5681 You have to be the guys that played with or against him.

God bless

Agreed; both have a strong case for being the GOAT running back. Both guys had such different styles that it's kinda hard to pick between the two.

@@dukewilson14 Barry Sanders own father said Brown is the GOAT

I would say brown at 5 😆

They are definitely joking

Barry Morgan that’s a lie. Average height/weight was 6’3 6’4 and 240/250

It certainly did hurt Jim's chances playing for Paul Brown.

@@stevefowler2112 it was then and was until the Millennium a RUNNING BACK league, no team in the NFL was going to win as a throwing team like today's game. Jim was great and he was gonna carry the rock no matter where he played - taking NOTHING away from Coach Brown, a genius in his own right.

@@bishlap I agree with everything you said there, but if you go back and actually look at the Browns offense during the Paul Brown Championship years, they had one of the most advanced passing games in NFL history. Even Don Shula said when Bill Walsh passed that he always thought less of Bill Walsh for "stealing"/using Paul Brown's offense and rebadging it the west coast offense without giving credit to Paul Brwon, which even today the concepts are widely used.

@@stevefowler2112Hey Steve, I agree, didn't mean to imply that PB's offense(s) was limited, NOT AT ALL, Paul Brown may have been the original coaching "genius" in the NFL. What I do/did mean is, PB knew that he had championship LEGS w/ Jim Brown running the ball, and ride him he did. Browns also had good/great QB's, I remember back to Frank Ryan ripping apart great defenses... anyway. NFL RIP.

I disagree. Tom Brady is the Greatest NFL player of All Time. And whoever is 2nd isn't even close.

@@HyperInflation2020 Thomas Edward Patrick Brady has taken full advantage of the NFL rules of not hitting the quarterback too aggressively. In another era, Brady would be pancaked on every play.

@@HyperInflation2020 Tom Brady is the most productive quarterback but Jim Brown is the greatest NFL player.

@@HyperInflation2020 it really should be based on position.

@@davidd34Where do you think Barry Sanders ranks, at that position?

One of? He WAS the greatest.

The best combination of speed, power and balance that you'll ever see at running back, one exception Walter Payton before 1970 merger it's JB, post merger it's Walter Payton. The best two rb ever imho.

The guy gained over 1,000 yards in every season when the NFL only played a 10 game season. Now guys act like gaining 1000 yards in 17 game season is a big deal.

Also led Syracuse basketball in scoring

@@georgesouthwick7000 It was a 12 game season until 1961 when it went to 14 games, no? I get your point. however.

@@georgesouthwick7000 Amen.

@@larrycasper4381 What? What season did he do it?

Fr he was like Derrick Henry on roids x20

@@JosiahTheMinor I saw him play at Yankee Stadium several times and he was unstoppable. He could outrun you, run over you, had moves for a 6'2' 230 lb RB that he shouldn't have had. He was F'in smart also, and a champion in several other sports also. He was one the best American lacrosse players of all time. And he was his own man. When he was in England filming The Dirty Dozen, Paul Brown kept busting his balls to come to training camp threatened to fine him, so Jim said "I'm retiring" and that was that.

The great ones make you look bad.

@@docsmithdc tackling was way bad back in the day bro, Jim brown was a beast, but tackling is way more complex now

@@chodysseus420 I disagree.I saw the "old NFL".

Wrong, it's the tackling of today which is inferior. Most players today tackle high which is not the most efficient way to bring down a ball carrier, especially a good one.

@@nobodyaskedbut Thank you.

Yeah all 3 guys had more to give physically, but Sayers and Campbell got injured and Brown moved on early.

Walter Payton

Exactly.

Agree with JB and Earl Campbell for sure

@@jjm4643 curious, do you know who the all time leader is in the position now? My Dumbphone can't access that info. It didn't even make it thru Chinese kindergarten unfortunately.

Barry sanders is still better

The story goes that Jim wanted to play one more year. He was on a movie set during training camp and Art Moddell threatened to fine him for each day he was absent from camp. As a result, Jim retired instead of paying the fines. Physically I'd guess he could play 3-5 more years.

@@dukewilson14 I think that Jim should have played for at least another year, and possibly another 3-4 after that into the end of the 1960’s. At 30, he was really too young to retire and he quit as the MVP of the league, and the best ball carrier and offensive player, bar none in NFL history. It would have been a lot better for his legacy if he played for a full 10 years, and not only 9. 10 sounds a lot better than 9 when evaluating a career. Also, he quit in an angry huff with his boss Art Modell, which is never a good thing, even if you are named Jim Brown. They reconciled years later, but still, quitting because you are mad at your boss is not something that should be encouraged in any line of work. It’s not graceful, and it lacks class, even though as a ball player Jim Brown was in a class by himself. He should have made peace with Modell and returned to the Browns for at least 1 more season. I know why he quit. He could make a lot more money in movies making love to beautiful women like Stella Stevens and Raquel Welch than he could playing in the NFL being hit by Huff, Butkus, and Nitschke. Still, it would have been better for his legacy if he’d left the NFL on better terms than he did, as at least a 10 year veteran. Because of how he chose to quit, many experts now put 20 year veterans Jerry Rice and Tom Brady over Brown as the GOAT. My opinion, nothing else. Feel free to disagree if you choose.

@@frederickrapp5396 And he would've sacrificed his long-term health to satisfy ... who, exactly? I guess he's a pretty smart man, as well.

Barry played against bigger, faster, and more complex defenses though. & That’s a fact.

Jim Brown played against the simplest defense there was, every single week..... ....all 11 of you guys just focus on stopping Brown. That's a fact.

Yep I agree 100% That one run against the Giants where Jim runs up the middle and jets past 4 Giants who look like they can reach him from the side, but end up grabbing air. Finding the right highlights and the audio about Jim Brown make for the best video in terms of profiling the player and describing who he was on the field.