Tell me, you didn't just say that!

CAN YOU DIG IT??? SUCKAAAAA!

This is both awful and hilarious at the same time. Well done haha

Yeah but what does the 'T' stand for? My guess is Thumbpumper

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What promotion is that?

Facts

@@johnmarcus317 Literacy

@@johnmarcus317 minnow q

Isnt Cornette vs Russo the feud of the year every year?

@@jimmyandersson9358 Shitstain hasn't done anything relevant in 2020 so it defaults to Cornette vs AEW, maybe Corny vs Meltzer/Jericho for 2021

Its more like squash of the year

id vote for that

@@distantandvague Idk I can't take you seriously if you watch AEW, like have some self awareness towards the people you hang out with. Fat, balding, neckbeard, act like children, yeah thats a brand that is cool to support

That says more about you than it does about the awards.

@@dmcathis3739 Actually no, it doesn't. Dave has become like some rock journalists in my youth who wrote endless articles in the late 70s about how some obscure garage rock or proto punk band was more important than Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd.

@@henrygvidonas9573 It's not really that simple. Japan is a huge country & success there isn't much smaller than in the West (it could be bigger even). I'm boxing fan too & there are a lot incredible Japanese champions dominating the smaller weight divisions, but very few western fans know about them. In MMA, UFC is big in West, but One is equally powerful in the East. The problem is that this planet is just too big. There should be 2 wrestler of the year awards, so that we could avoid problems like that.

@@dmcathis3739,Your Point is invalid.

@@dmcathis3739 no it doesn't

Meltzer has lost all credibility

If you take into the scope of all wrestling seen in 2020, it's actually accurate. But that's like saying which piece of dog shit tastes the least offensive to your taste buds.

A complete joke from a uncredible mark

@@sx9204 facts

@@stealthmode1303 no meltzers choices. Voted for.

Ikr and stupid shit ever fucking orange Cassidy won the best gimmick a guy sticks his hands in his pockets.

@@trevorwright6395 Santino Marella won it twice. ^^

Tim Hornbaker's Buddy Rogers biography should have won!

The winners are Dave’s likes. I’m not impressed.

Absolutely delusional its because no one in wwe will speak to him

So if you don't value Dave's opinion why talk about it?

@@arnavbhagwat4232 I think the problem is it came out in December,-so not many would have read it, plus unless you sub to Crowbar Press/listen to 605 etc you likely wouldn't even have heard about it. Really I would say it should be up for next years ballot due to its publication date.

The awards were voted on by fans

@@Station_AI The people who follow Dave have the same taste as him

@@Station_AI Only AEW fans even read Dave Meltzer anymore. No one can take him seriously at this point.

@@VillaFan767 well Corny takes him seriously enough to do two podcasts a week talking about him, and all of the comments from people butthurt about another mans opinion on fake fighting

@@Station_AI im pretty sure meltzer would win best journalist at the aew awards

I read this in Pleasence’s voice lol

"I met him thirty years ago"

Hell yea my boy Rene Dupree is over there atm and says Go Shiozaki is top notch

That a thing I dont understand also. Great Matches and a great Worker but only NJPW seems to count.

@@saschafeld1707 I'm a HUGE Shiozaki and NOAH fan since 2005, but very few people watch NOAH nowadays compared to NJPW (you can say the same thing about AJPW). Sad but true, cause the product is so much better than NJPW, especially in 2020 with the awesome Shiozaki championship run.

I wouldn't know what happened to NOAH until you posted this. Is Marufuji still in there?

@@redhurricane24 Yes he is. And Mutoh won the belt a few days ago.

Eh, he is far too busy with his collectable business to do that stuff

Why so Charlotte Flair Reha wins most awards.

He doesn’t watch Smackdown, so he’s missing the best weekly show and the top heel in the business Roman Reigns.

@@BenGetItIn That's very debatable.

@@BeyondDaX I know, it’s my opinion.

These are the Slammy's, I'm shocked they did not have a ceremony on Dynamite.

Wow thats kinda a stretch 😆

exactly what i thought.

I dont follow Dave and didnt know that, and that's insane. I can't believe anyone takes him seriously.

To be fair, Shawn Micheals is almost as bad as Hogan when it comes to politics. He did Vadar badly when he was in WWE and never recovered since and of course that whole 'clique' nonsense.

@@BeyondDaX Yet he is one of the best wrestlers of all time.

@@RandalfElVikingo He is one of the best seller of moves, I'll give you that much

Well WWE was not once the top promotion or particular hot in the drawing metrics under them - that was New Japan post Hogan WWE upto the NWO. So it makes sense that they never won it.

@@MC-mf7zj Does it really matter? WWE was still a huge company. By that logic TNA, ROH, AEW & perhaps AAA & Japanese companies couldn't win awards today, because they aren't as big as WWE.

​@@vanderful2397 Perhaps just saying WWE being in bad shape at the time is a poor argument for the person specifically, but there is no real argument for them as far as WOTY is concerned when compared to the winners. Shawn Michaels was someone who'd help keep things okay but he wasn't a massive draw unlike people like Misawa, Kobashi, even Vader at the time. Hart was in Europe, so you could make an argument. Honestly the biggest ommison in the award's history is Hashimoto, who was a way bigger draw than both throughout the decade. So to say that they are shoo-ins when better candidates that didn't win is just baffling to me. Plus there is not many wrestlers in WWE that you could actually say are difference makers in their promotions unlike Moxley who is and Okada and Naito who won it in earlier years. I guess the case is relative to the person.

@@vanderful2397 Dont even waste your brain cells tryna figure these ppl’s logic out. One minute its about in ring ability then about drawing power then about how big the promotion is...they literally move the goal post until someone japanese or not employed by Vince McMahon fits the criteria. Insanity.

@@TheeCoachg in order to gauge drawing power it needs to be a big promotion because there's no point calling yourself a draw if you're getting 400 people in a field in Jersey. Hence why Austin is seen as one of the biggest draws ever because he basically sold out arenas on his own. Same as Cena did.

Kind of like what the Simpsons has become.

Its the old wrestling saying....”If everything is a swerve then nothing is a swerve,really”

2 actually lmao.

You ain’t lying.

I'm going to attempt to change your mind about Meltzer being on AEW's payroll, but I will not change your mind that Tony Khan is potentially paying Meltzer. I doubt Meltzer is on AEW's payroll since that would way too easy to get busted and definitely destroy whatever little credibility Meltzer still has in claiming to be an journalist. The alternate theory you should consider is that Tony Khan might be paying Dave Meltzer indirectly by bulk subscribing to the hardcopies of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. It does not seem too difficult to do so as long as the subscriber has lots of money: www.f4wonline.com/news/wrestling-observer-home-delivery-161156

I don't think they pay him, he's just a regular fanboys... Oh and of course friends with the bucks.

Or Dave fanbase enjoy AEW

Yeah, starting to look that way.

Had to be Sasha n Bayley or Adam Cole and Pat McAfee

Same!

To be fair he was out for over 1/4 of the year.

Because he for the most part treats wrestling very seriously & is a good working big man built around power spots, in a world of midgets who do flips & stupid comedy.

Roman was out for too long. WON and F4W are full of disgruntled ex-WWE marks and Meltzer is just a shill for AEW now.

@@ssj7nick Yep, and people complained that the 2014 Slammys were rigged just because Roman won when he was out for the last three months

He was out for half the hear But Drew McIntyre could have won it for sure.

There are two Sydal brothers in AEW... Easy enough mistake to make. Lol

Your right that would be fair if you know they did look different and if it wasn't before his brother was on their roster lol@@drsmainemusic

@@drsmainemusic Aye, he's called Mike!

Cornette has always been in my toughest times since 2010 lol.

Dude, same here. I'm not into some of his more vulgar comments, but for the most part Cornette tries to at least come up with constructive criticism.

I honestly think he is the last good thing about modern wrestling, probably wouldn't watch/ follow it anymore without this podcast 😂

SmackDown is behind BTE 😂😂😂 But honestly, box office draw= money, ratings, merch so it should be someone from wwe or ufc since they are the biggest 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

No way who on the street knows who the bucks are khabib is actually mainstream draw

@@vedamonkar412 no way 😂😂😂 the audacity of these people 😂😂

the bucks have anout 100,000 annoying fans

The crazy Thing IS Jon moxley Dean Ambrose Had His best Matches Not this Year maybe around 2014 or so. And i believe even Moxley Had would admit this

Enzo & Big Cass named a move after meltzer?

@@SaudiGod No, Haas and Benjamin did.

@@SaudiGod you didn't see Naomi and Lana using the Meltzer Buster?

That's the one thing I hate the most about Meltzer

No, The Two-Man Powertrip did.

Was there a most improved award in 1999? If so then Hardcore Holly should get it. He was always good in the ring but he made a huge turn around when he became "Hardcore Holly" and ended the JOB Squad and "Bombastic Bob" stuff. He was the resident tough as hell mid card workhorse from 1999 - 2004

I am a fan of NJPW myself and even I know that it cannot draw as good in the US as it does Japan due to cultural differences, language barriers and presentation. I have to switch my brain to Japanese effectively to understand what goes on in NJPW compared to anything in the US. The smarks in AEW, WON and especially the Joshi simps are the ones who overhype that shit and think it will work outside the Japan/WON bubble. Why do you think Shida is the only one to survive the joshi picks of Omega and two factors being joshi simps and her ESL?

Pretty much

More Meltzer joining the cult of people who like this stuff, which has seriously contributed to the decline of wrestling the last decade plus.

Yes...as much as they say his subscribers vote on it but if they believe whatever the cult leader says then it’s exactly the same as him voting for it himself

Amen.

@@Hi-kq1vi facts

I'm here for the comments 🤣

Sadly yes

I absolutely love the pure division, but then they turn around and do shit like having the Danhausen guy and other bingo hall fuckery. I'm trying to hang in there, but most weeks I find myself doing something else when RoH is aired

@@SharptonsRaceCard exactly. I was excited when I heard Jim talk about the Pure division. I watched some of it and liked it. Then I turned to ROH on a random show and they were right back to doing the vanilla midget bullshit. I gave up on it.

*Was. Nigel McGuinness MADE that division

ROH is a wonderful company, almost 70% of the current WWE main eventers are ex-ROH guys, but since the rise of AEW the poor ROH fall to the four or third place cause sadly they dont have money to compite against Khan.

@@carlitossalazar375 ROH is flippy bullshit.

DUDE!

Well, he should named his finisher after Dave if he wants an award

Why are you piss that others have a different opinion from you?

@@andrebryant5081 Let me say this, the whole idea of "this is my opinion, so please leave me alone" (which is scarcely used for anything more than simply a safety-net) should definitely not hold true especially for something that is trying to be somewhat objective, pretty much on account of it's very nature, which is to recognize the best candidates in their respective fields by a major newsletter. There should be a modicum of objectivity that maybe defined on certain standards, objectivity is not the same as being "factual" and while complete objectivity is perhaps not achievable there should and can be a rigorous attempt to keep subjectivity at a minimum(without which essentially every academic work would have to predicate itself by saying "please leave me alone"). Above everything even if you do disagree with everything I said above, please explain as to why shouldn't a person have the right to be angry over the opinion of another person? Why are people angry over certain people being blatantly racist or sexist? Above all being equally accepting towards all opinions would never result in any discourse about a debatable topic. Thank you for reading this stupidly long comment.

@@soumyadeepbanerjee964 You value Dave's opinion this much while I didn't value your edited comment at all because your opinion doesn't matter to me fool!

@@andrebryant5081 I absolutely look like the fool here!

Smackdown (from what I heard) has gotten much better

Really Smack down? I could understand raw, but really? Smackdown?

@@me-kf4tq Smackdown is good right now. Raw is utter dog shit.

It's damn good, you'd better believe it! 😀🍿

That’s everything he’s got. 😂 35 years in the business and only 1,200 people pay him to watch, listen and read his opinion. That’s baaaaad!!!

@@marcosant98 Now factor in Dave never took a bump and his wrestling opinion makes him 6 figures a year. Any wrestlers not a millionaire or billionaire the last 35 years is baddd at their job!

@@andrebryant5081 well that’s a good point. He’s made his life giving his opinion and that makes him money. He never gained popularity going to a show. He made his own popularity. Thanks!

@@marcosant98 Plenty of people who are subscribed don't vote

My first thought cam in feud of the year was Reigns vs Uso bcz it was not scripted it felt real to me uncle dave is not chicken or egg he is a fox of aew

Because it's an opinion base award show. The day many of you ignore Dave the day his opinion die to you.

Orton vs MacIntyre was bad no fing storyline so yeah

And we’re back to it…no complaints either 👍🏻

SURELY not manipulated by Dave. No sirree!

Don't. Just don't. Adam Blampied did that for a few Quizzlemanias and the results are nearly always shite

Randall vs edge too!!

Shawn Michaels is in charge of UK, but I don't know if you could call him the "Booker" though.

@@CornerRoom_Thoughts it's Jim Smallman doing the actual booking, Michaels from my understanding just in the Vince/Triple H type role of approving things

That was a 5 star match.

Honestly I didnt knew about many Japanese Wrestler before i looked at the Awards and the Five Star Matches but some of them are really good much better than anything in America

Great match

so true. but there were always trash even in the 80s. Hogan never won wrestler of hte year

@@thomaskia8441 Growing up in the 80s, I couldn't stand Hogan. Even as a kid I found him extremely corny. I know, I'm weird. I found him somewhat interesting when he turned heel.

@@savagereaper6291 thats ok but it doesn’t matter if you like him or hate him he still deserved atleast 1 wrestler of th year award in 1984 or 1987

Not only that. He has tricked himself into believing that these AEW clowns draw more money than Stipe Miocic, Israel Adessanya or Khabib Nurmagomedov. A cursory glance at the PPV numbers crushes that delusion into dust. Almost like Old Dave only brings up the UFC to spite the WWE....

He's not in AEW that's why

Because Meltzer has an axe to grind against mainstream wrestling. Thus he is anointing this rag tag troupe of indy darlings

he should have won most improved of the year or best heel but he didnt

Dave meltzer is such a aew fan boy

Because he's not in aew lmao (dave meltzer is an aew fanboy)

WWE's mass firing during the pandemic won that award. Not Rollins & Mysterio's jelly eye angle ...

That is a good point. What a supprise that wasn't on the list...

Yeah honoring a person is bad that's proved how much of a mark you are

Boxing and mma if you dont care about "story" and if you want story watch some foreign films.

@Kevin Sims, & that's the main problem with the business now, is that Today's fans or "audience" just accepts what Khan & Vince do on their respective shows instead of demanding more from them from a LOGICAL booking standpoint.

@@TheSportsfan35 “LOGICAL” booking? Vince booked an old lady giving birth to a hand and it had like 5 million+ viewers. It’s not about logical booking. Logical booking ain’t important as long as it’s entertaining to fans. Not just to you.

@@TheSportsfan35 its like they're all burned out from the bs they've become immune to it. We never did get an explanation on how 3 men can fit in a 2 seater helicopter

@@Thebestoutthere Have you seen the tv ratings lately?All 3 companies have done HORRIBLE tv ratings & that's because now they seem to book the talent as if their viewers are kids, idiots or idiotic kids.

Jim Cornette said it best. Orange Cassidy is the stand up comedian with only one joke. It works if he goes to different locations where no one's seen the joke. But once everyone's seen the joke on national TV, the joke got old really fast.

The booking of the Fiend was horrible but at least it's a real gimmick not some random guy doing nothing

@@TomFoolery350 It's not a gimmick. 10 years of buzzards and fireflies. Never went anywhere. It's 2021. Only edgy 14-year-olds getting bullied a school still care for this tacky Rob Zombie sh-t. It's a fat juggalo in a mask. 33 years old, never got past his Hot Topic phase. Facepaint fishnet Jeff Hardy is another good example. Another delusional idiot who thinks his dated act is cool .

@@staalhard4044 LOL, edgy. Here's the thing: even if you think he sucks; he's still better than Orange Cassidy hahaha! If you think otherwise, then your opinion is stupid and can't be taken seriously.

@@rodycaz8984 Amazing argumentation. "mY oPiNiOn ! yOu sTuPid!"... followed by an upvote for yourself. I can see why you fall in the Fiend fanbase category.

You just need a bunch of AEWtists and shove the book in people's faces and you are immediately a best seller nowadays.

Yeah even bad movies sometimes get huge numbers

Only if we take the newsletter, its author and its readers seriously, which has been the problem for years now

Do you realize they just signed a contract with TNT worth 175 million?

Neither did they

And most will be like who? Lol

@@Will_kid_cortez Who da fuq is Shaq?

Exactly they're only good in a context of an indie show that happens every 2 to 3 months week to week they do the same thing over and over and over no psychology just spots

Good joke when buck had a 6 star match against Kenny and page and a all time classic with ftr

I cried laughing 😅🤣 when I heard that

Probably not. Jim is sitting in his home over the phone and Brian is the only one in a studio. I don’t know if it’s a home studio that Brian has, Brian does other podcasts. Unless Jim videos himself

Kenny in triplemania Kenny at impact ppv Kenny vs moxley Omega vs king in ROH....okay maybe not but come on. Kenny is everywhere.

Wwe sucks that's why