Floatwheel ADV Pro Review: Is this Cheaper Onewheel Clone Worth It?

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Floatwheel ADV Pro Review: Is this Cheaper Onewheel Clone Worth It?

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@Neilly671 6 ай бұрын

14:20 Ordered my floatwheel and it came in about 60 days. Its winter in Canada so I didnt mind.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@RandoDred 4 ай бұрын

Wld you recommend the float wheel?

@iamKelvinJ 4 ай бұрын

Was that with the standard shipping or expedited?

@GiovanniGiorgo 6 ай бұрын

The Floatwheel is 100% worth it! Right to repair, crazy power (can climb like a mountain goat), better price and wayyyy better customer service. The only thing you got wrong, is the wait. Plan on 2 months. Thanks guys for the great review!

@TheFloatLife 6 ай бұрын

yo, thanks for the shout! Great seeing you boys back on Onewheels!

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Nobody does epic Onewheel content better than the Float Life!

@edgarperez8696 6 ай бұрын

please do a follow up video.

@milesonewheelwinter 6 ай бұрын

Why bother owning these if you dont ride shit but pavement?

@esk8unity 6 ай бұрын

keep us in tune when u ship all properly together out of the box along with capabilities of purchasing via paypal/credit card . then we are in

@garretwang1031 3 ай бұрын

@@esk8unityfloat life doesn’t make the floatwheel dude.

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

Many thanks for the shout out! Much appreciated. 🙏 At some point this year, I’d like to get you on a full custom VESC one wheel. I think you’d enjoy it. Stay well! A very nicely done video, and enjoyable to see you folks on one wheeled boards again. 🙏

@AlbertoNoys 6 ай бұрын

One point needs a bit of clarifying. I don't think Floatwheel wants to: - Only offer payment with cryptocurrency - Have a website with a russian domain - Ship the board disassembled - Not have stock of replacement parts or boards in warehouses in the US or Europe That's only happening because of another certain company.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Very good point. Do you think FM is justified in their actions?

@AlbertoNoys 6 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged I personally do not. But I'd like to see your take on the lawsuit video.

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged No, I do not. The market demanded Floatwheel. Like most capitalist, FM doesn't believe in an open market.

@davidhamid8025 6 ай бұрын

These are reasons I haven’t bought one

@KaizenOz 6 ай бұрын

@@freshlychargedno, because of prior art, main patent is void. Just needs to be challenged

@AuthenTech 6 ай бұрын

Competition is always healthy for the end users!

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

I agree with competition being good for the end user. The situation gets complicated when the competition comes at the cost of copyright and patent infringements.

@TheBoardGarage 6 ай бұрын

It’s also worth saying that competition is healthy and beneficial for informed end users. There is a lot of misinformation spread by vendors of all sorts, leading to confusion.

@AlbertoNoys 6 ай бұрын

@@TheBoardGarage What misinformation? Not questioning it, I genuinely want to know.

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged If the patents are valid. Remember, the patent office does not verify your patent is valid, it only gives the patent holder the right to defend it. This is an often overlooked point of patent law.

@AuRowe 6 ай бұрын

@@AlbertoNoysI think of warranty/range claims. Most PEV companies promise more than they deliver in regards to these 2 things

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

OMG yes, please bring more light to the whole kerfuffle. 1) Did Kyle invent the onewheel 2) or did he patent process that already existed 3) Is it right or justified to have a monopoly on single wheel self balancing PEV's 4) Safety. see Louis Rossman remarks 5) Why can't I buy parts for my board(s) There's more but that's a start. Overall, very slick presentation, been with you guys from the start and love how the channel has grown and it is fabulous to see you back on 'The Wheel' as my late mama called them. Very good video. Thank you.

@ggaltqq 6 ай бұрын

There are multiple Louis Rossman videos about FM and the latest probably will answer all of your questions. But I also would love more people to start talking about it.

@bookmark2846 6 ай бұрын

I prefer torque over top speed so the Floatwheel is a better choice in that regard. Just waiting for the Smart BMS to pull the trigger on a FW.

@FloatinCanada 6 ай бұрын

Adv has both anyway. I don't think you'll see a stock GT-S got 40mph anytime soon haha.

@chrisc790 6 ай бұрын

Ya, adv has more torque and top speed than any onewheel.

@TheArnoparno 3 ай бұрын

same also waiting for that

@UkTechGuy 6 ай бұрын

Been working on VESC for Ebikes and ESsooters for a number of years now. It is FOC (Field Oriented Control), not Sinewave. Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your honesty and humility.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@Eryktion 6 ай бұрын

I was a bit afraid that you might be biased towards FM and won't be neutral here. But I think you did a fair review on the FW adv. 👏

@jgbatista05 6 ай бұрын

yes, please do a follow up video

@amerrickankiwi3953 6 ай бұрын

Agreed

@TheHitman- 6 ай бұрын

Sold my onewheel on eBay. A 139-mile XR with fender and fangs 2.0 sold in 4 days with a Like new condition. After i realized i wanted the range and speed the Veteran Lnyx offers, i couldn't ride it anymore. I had it for over 3 years, but it was time to move on. Never looking back.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

The Lynx is pretty incredible!

@TheHitman- 6 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged Best euc to date.

@bookmark2846 6 ай бұрын

Good to have both. I'd get hernia trying to load my Lynx into the car trunk. I will agree that the Lynx is fantastic!

@willlawson6126 6 ай бұрын

Even though I have a preference for EUC's, I make sure to keep a Onewheel and Eskate around as I definitely have my moods for the ride potential they offer.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

@@willlawson6126 perfect for chill rides, walking the dog and trick or treating with the kids!

@PatrickWagner-wr5ei 6 ай бұрын

I love your KZfaq channel and I have been watching since you started talking about onewheels.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! That was a long time ago!

@eshamis89 4 ай бұрын

To me, the biggest benefit of OW is that it is a longer base for taller people. The biggest benefit of FW is larger battery capacity and torque.

@ryanbloomquist3987 6 ай бұрын

Great video. I wish you guys would’ve mentioned the ability to view duty cycle and individual battery cell levels. I feel that these are two important safety features that future motion ignores.

@kelniEYL 6 ай бұрын

you cant see individual battery cells on the floatwheel ;) bms is not that smart

@brodyport6395 6 ай бұрын

yet @@kelniEYL

@ryanbloomquist3987 6 ай бұрын

@@kelniEYL I stand corrected, thx for the info🤘🏼

@lenwhatever4187 6 ай бұрын

That will be a hard one to sue. One wheel _has_ to win or there will be even more copycats but it is likely they will not. even if they do, it will likely be impossible actually collect any settlement. The floatwheel comes in more than one package, that is as parts and the new owner is the one who actually makes a competing product. It would be really hard to A) find all owners and B) sue all of them. On top of that, it is pretty hard to sue someone who says: "I would not have bought a one wheel in any case". In any case, even if one wheel wins, they loose. They may get the floatwheel off the market but I expect if so floatwheel will just release all the specs as open source and people will be able to build them from scratch with readily available parts.

@electricstyl-euc 6 ай бұрын

For the floatwheel the speed is greater than 22 mph you can go up to 30 mph see more.And range is much greater than the GT-S.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

This is true about the Floatwheel top speed. But the same could be said about the Onewheel GTS tops speed so we just posted the advertised top speed in the video.

@chrisc790 6 ай бұрын

@freshlycharged the difference is to go faster on a onewheel you are in a dangerous position riding pushback going faster. On a floatwheel you can ride faster more comfortably. Also the range is a big thing as well.

@chrisc790 2 ай бұрын

@dezh2544 it's vesc, so they have duty cycle. If you hit 95% duty cycle, you can nosedive. But there is so much more power, so unless you want to cruise at 35 mph, you should be safe. Also, with vesc you can set the pushback to whatever speed you want. You can also have audible alerts for whatever speed you want or duty cycle you want or both! For example you could set that up to where you get an audible alert in your ear at 20mph and 25mph and 80% duty cycle. Yes I have heard some people's boards shutting down, but not many. It has never happened to me but Tony is fixing the bms in the v2 boards so soon it won't be an issue at all.

@anthonym7281 6 ай бұрын

Holy smokes, new Onewheel content on this channel! It feels like its been ages! Would love to see you guys make a video on a DIY Vesc board (how to choose certain components, what to be mindful of when building or having one built for you, etc). I like the fact that the Floatwheel exists as a (mostly) ready to ride alternative to FM. But if my only board broke and i had to wait a month for a replacement part to ship from one location, id be pretty bummed. At least with a DIY vesc, theres several vendors you could look to for replacement parts and you could have it at your door in a few days.

@sadanimal1950 6 ай бұрын

I dont think FM shouldve been granted the patent to begin with as there was a working prototype well before FM ever existed. the patent has stinted growth and development of their product when compared to other devices such as EUC and scooters.

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

Not how patents work. It's not the patent office's job to verify prior art. Anyone can challenge FM on the legitimacy of their patent. They can even sue for court cost if the patent(s) are found to be fraudulent. In short, you can not patent an existing device, there is also a one year rule once something is shown publicly.

@mattjames7272 6 ай бұрын

I've got a Pint and a GT. Looks like I'll be adding a Floatwheel to my collection

@stirfryjedi 6 ай бұрын

I'd love to see a follow-up video about the lawsuit. Thanks for the thorough and complete review!! Onewheel needs to get with the times and offer authorized repair service training for bike shops, etc.

@FloatinCanada 6 ай бұрын

Aw I'm a bit disappointed but glad you got this comparison out. Theres issues here that arent necessarily issues. Like the pre-set tunes being good enough for people to ride so you dont need to tinker with settings. The apps float control and floaty werent mentioned and both amazing apps. The extra safety you get from having access to everything like duty cycle and logs. And there was other stuff too like the parts arriving in 1 month which is actually much quicker and something else i can't recall right now but no matter still a good comparison from the US point of view. Anyway, I'm glad you got to talk about it and try it. Enjoy the ride!

@hanfsolo42 6 ай бұрын

For us in Europe it's much better than buying a Onewheel GT/S

@jaredboulderterry3912 6 ай бұрын

The float wheel has way more torque in my opinion. I can go up a steep hill no problem where as the gt struggles with my weight

@SamIsAnIAhm 2 ай бұрын

Gt or gts?

@barrymonteiro8893 6 ай бұрын

Awesome review guys!! You knocked this one out of the park! Great points on pros and cons. I want a FW now.😄

@DoctorDugong21 6 ай бұрын

I'd be interested in a video on the lawsuit, or more specifically your opinions on it and the ethics of using crypto to get a product that violates a US patent - though a somewhat questionable patent. How did you feel about it? I am generally pro US-style capitalism and think patents are important, but my experience with Onewheels has made me begin to think somewhat differently. Between the video of Ben Smither's "self balancing scooter" 7+ years before the OW, and what I consider to be Future Motion's poor stewardship of this product and community, I am rooting for their patent to be invalidated and would not feel immoral getting a Floatwheel. I've come to think the standard for getting a patent should be higher, and there should be some kind of stewardship requirement. E.g. if a drug company invents an important cure but 5+ years into production can't keep contaminants out, maybe they'd lose their patent early or be forced to use a manufacturer that could provide the quality necessary. Future Motion would fail a similar test for ongoing quality control issues like Pint X battery wires that break just after warranty, and for their unreasonable repair scheme.

@bsd103 6 ай бұрын

The floatwheel has considerably more power than the GT-S (climbing), and even more top speed. The comparison chart is really not accurate - floatwheel hits 30mph+ very easily

@bsd103 6 ай бұрын

the 22mph figure was for the rev 1 motors

@josefrogoschewsky6458 6 ай бұрын

Would love a video about the lawsuit - Toni was pretty quiet about it on Maxx's podcast a few days ago. Great review guys!

@fjpoole 3 ай бұрын

Looks like a great product - however I have a problem with intellectual property theft. FM has to deal with the government and all the safety concerns - Floatwheel does not - they just ride on their coat tails while creating a more dangerous product that could ultimately result in additional litigation toward FM. You have to remember who started this sport, without FM there would be no sport - y'all are pretty quick to jump the shark. FM does have to learn to get along with their community a little better, I hear "Right to Repair" all the time, but that is part of FM keeping the sport as SAFE as possible, Floatwheel has no similar obligation. If FM kept up with the VESC community some there would probably be no need for competition, however from a legal standpoint with safety concerns in many cases they simply cannot. Maybe they need to have people sign a waiver to unlock the board's full potential or something ......food for thought. Even then waivers are generally only worth the paper they are printed on. That said even I'm thinking about VESCin my XR. FM certainly needs to do a better job with community relations and marketing...

@markaprill6501 6 ай бұрын

I love my onewheel gt.. I think it was this channel that got me into onewheels.

@KevoF06 6 ай бұрын

I think you should do a follow up?

@3tch3r 6 ай бұрын

Floatwheel is GTS killer

@VoltronWatts-gt3ep 2 ай бұрын

Great video gents! Exactly what I was looking for 👊

@freshlycharged 2 ай бұрын

Happy to help

@glehman 6 ай бұрын

Why do you refer to the Floatwheel as a copycat or a clone of the Onewheel? Its sound pejorative. You highlighted how it is different. Do you refer to the Onewheel as a clone or copycat of Ben Smithers' self balancing board?

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Being pejorative is not my intention. When I use the word "clone" or "copycat" it refers to the fact that the product looks almost strikingly similar to the product that it is intended to replicate. Having seen and held the original onewheel by Kyle and having only seen Ben's device from watching videos, I would say that they look very similar and yes, I consider Kyle's version a clone of the original. However, the current Onewheels are nothing like Ben's original board so I would not refer to the current OW design as clones of Ben's design. The Floatwheel takes it's design directly from the current Onewheels and many of the changes such as the rails, tire and fenders are inspired or cloned from third party vendors.

@FloatinCanada 6 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged Do you use the words clone or copycat when you review EUCs which have also taken their design from previous EUCs? for example, calling the veteran Lynx a copycat of the ninebot one?

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

@@FloatinCanadayes, but more so with some of the e-bikes and electric scooters that we review.

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't want to say anything about the language in my original comment, but it does rub me the wrong way to not realize that the first onewheels, were in fact closer to the Smithers boards, naturally, FM has had time to bring it to it's current state. One of Mr. Chang's old complaints was that the onewheel looked like it was home built, and he longed for a slicker more factory made look. He got that with the GT and we lost the best onewheel platform (which interestingly is still going strong).

@texasredfox7607 6 ай бұрын

I wanted a finished product, I could afford it, so I got the GT-S. That said, I hate FM practices, which was the reason I never bit on the GT, and decided to stick with my XR's. The GT-S is what the GT should have been. I am enjoying it for the most part. I do miss the smaller XR hub. I have an Enduro tire on it, which helped a lot, but I need the smaller hub TFL sells. I also do not like how the front footpad sensor works, it's kind of sketchy.

@FloatinCanada 6 ай бұрын

Next time support some community small businesses and get a custom board all finished and dialed in just for you :)

@eBoard3R 6 ай бұрын

*FMotion dug their own grave, ALL Hail VESC OneWheels!* 🤙🏼⚡️⚡️🤙🏼 Hope we get more and more companies divin into VESC based OneWheels after Future Motion aka Failure Motion aka Past Motion buries themself.

@MrDmadness 6 ай бұрын

Agree 100%

@MrJoefoefrombuffalo 5 ай бұрын

Please consider talking or posting more about the differences between the ADV and the ADV pro other than the rails on the ADV pro an adv bigger battery for adv

@freshlycharged 5 ай бұрын

What are the biggest differences you want to hear about?

@MrJoefoefrombuffalo 5 ай бұрын

@@freshlycharged The weight difference. Is there a different angle in the rails. Any others

@dogbog99 6 ай бұрын

The floatwheel is a way better board than futuremotion boards. They have been outdone in every way including price!! It’s a no brainier to get the floatwheel instead of a onewheel at this point in time.

@yohvh 5 ай бұрын

The current payment method is not crypto but cash on delivery for the netherlands

@iancooper7320 6 ай бұрын

I would definitely like to know more bout the on going legal issues. I love my one wheel.!! Th is for the video guys

@christianstaley-nn4mi 2 ай бұрын

Not sure about anyone else but fit and finish is the one thing that surprised me with the onewheel. Screw holes not lining up right some sitting flush some not and the fear of over torquing and it not being covered kind of bummed me out. I will say this thing is indestructible but for an expensive American made product I would have really liked some better quality.

@YoungWise2011 6 ай бұрын

Wheres the teverun 7260r? No review indicates it wasnt worth it. Cmon boys. Keep upcthe good work. Best electric pev channel on youtube.

@sylrider 6 ай бұрын

Great video guys! Good to see you again. Just one question: at 6:20 you say « you can get the Floatwheel to higher top speeds » but the table on the screen shows 22mph for ADV Pro VS 25 mph for the GTS. Which one is right? Also I saw videos of people going way faster on Floatwheel boards. Are those legit?

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

Good questions. Yes, the Floatwheel can go faster than it's advertised speed, but so can the Onewheel. The biggest difference is the Onewheel has haptic feedback and pushback to tell you to slow down and makes it hard to ride at those higher speeds. We just posted the advertised top speeds.

@sylrider 6 ай бұрын

Thanks! That helps. Just curious if there’s been some comparative speed tests out there IRL.

@MaxxSend 6 ай бұрын

Nice thorough vid and great production value! Appreciate the vid shoutout. I believe if you keep riding the FW you're gonna see how it shines more and more in the different metrics, and also how almost everything is a substantial improvement, despite physically looking similar. And bring on the legal topic discussion!! Tony was unable to address it publicly during our interview so would love to hear what you and the community think :)

@leeweber85 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Would love a follow up on the lawsuit and how legitimate it is or if it’s just FM lawyers using intimidation tactics. I want to ensure the company will still be around for a few years with parts available..

@Okssor 6 ай бұрын

Great video guys! Please do one covering the lawsuit. 🤘

@11perception 6 ай бұрын

Great video ❤ could you guys talk about static torque ? Maybe compare the 2 please. It’s really important to me

@Padygy 6 ай бұрын

always down for more videos! keep it up!

@GrammarlyAccount-ot8cc 4 ай бұрын

A video on the lawsuit would be perfect I would love to keep updated in case I buy one

@danielkeder 6 ай бұрын

Yes def.followup on the legal issue floatwheel vs fm. I bet many people want to know if theres merit to it

@Onelastrun 6 ай бұрын

Hey i miss u guys for e.u.c. reviews!

@pasha_houston 2 күн бұрын

Oh wow, future motion must be super post 😂😂 I still enjoy my XR very much, but if I was to upgrade, yes I'd consider it over GT for sure.

@rotz357 6 ай бұрын

Its like making a pizza. Microwave is quick, but not as good as the oven. Id buy 2 floatwheels before id buy a gt or gts

@acelias69 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Very happy Floatwheel owner. What helmet do you have? Thanks

@robras2850 6 ай бұрын

Float wheel all the way 👌

@aliciaImas 6 ай бұрын

I want now a floatwheel!!!

@mikeintampa250 6 ай бұрын

Hi guys, definitely interested for your take on the lawsuit.

@oromandias 6 ай бұрын

Your mileage may vary, but I ordered mine in early December and it's still not here. One month is pretty optimistic, plan on more than two months.

@renegadeace1735 3 ай бұрын

Thanks, was gonna get the pro but am just gonna get the regular.

@msvru 6 ай бұрын

Guys, how do you drive this thing up a steep ramp or down a hill, as the owner of an euc, I don’t understand.

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

carve like a snake.

@Corn8Bit 6 ай бұрын

You don't lol. Loved my ADV though (how often do you climb a 30 degree hill?) (edit to be clear, it's perfectly capable, but on all onewheels I scrape the nose on steep hills. I also used the lower position for the motor mount)

@cssari 6 ай бұрын

you can go up on steep hills or going downhill.. even with a GT/GTS but Floatwheel is even more capable

@msvru 6 ай бұрын

@@Corn8BitIn my city of Belgorod (Russia) there are a lot of steep ramps for baby strollers, a lot of curbs that you have to jump on because there are no smooth runs. OneWheel definitely not for every city

@Corn8Bit 6 ай бұрын

@@msvru Absolutely, and onewheels suck for going up curbs, bonking is not reliable. I ride an ex30 EUC everywhere now.

@truthiscensored 6 ай бұрын

Do the braking/sliding the back against the ground damage the wheel over time? Seem like it would need covering every so often

@freshlycharged 6 ай бұрын

The rear bumper gets a little wear and tear and can be easily replaced.

@deanaoxo 6 ай бұрын

I put an aluminum skid plate on my ones and many of the boards I work on. Provides more friction than Bangs, or stock bumpers and is thinner.

@froggerc625 6 ай бұрын

Aside from the value for $ (priced to compete with a GT but way more powerful), and right to repair anyone who doesn't live in the US should lean towards the Floatwheel given the costs of shipping your Onewheel back to Future Motion for repairs.

@bookmark2846 6 ай бұрын

Jimmy, if you get the chance, try the 2swift board. It is legit fun but seems to be falling under everyone's radar.

@MrRonClassic 6 ай бұрын

Hey guy great video.. is it possible for you to send me the link to the new programming video?

@jacobpaint 6 ай бұрын

The main detail to take away from this is that it’s legitimate competition and that will force both companies to create better products and give better service. Future Motion will lose a lot of their overseas market if they don't at least provide local repair solutions. From what I’ve seen in the Australian OW community, there will be scepticism to start with but the FW fits with the Australian mentality. The more people posting about positively in local OW groups, the more that scepticism will melt away. When people start offering servicing or just selling them fully put-together, you will get even more people and when there is a big enough market then many parts will be available locally. Meanwhile Future Motion might just go down with the ship rather than fix their issues.

@audihere4978 Ай бұрын

Floatwheel is a headache. Starts off with a honeymoon phase but then all the little things start adding up. I ended up breaking several parts. They sent me new ones quickly but wish there was better quality control on every part. The bumper cracking is a prime example, they gave me new ones…….. but it did break. Ended up selling my FW and getting a GTS and it’s way more “plug and play” and less DIY. My hopes were high for FW and everyone wants to bend over backwards to support Tony but there are plenty of blatant issues

@djd7421 6 ай бұрын

Great video! Are you guys planning to do a review of Tony's drop in GT vesc kit?

@Frea2b 6 ай бұрын

wait for the v2 floatwheel with the ability to show cell voltages! I love my v1 but riding with low cells can be deadly.

@seanparker571 5 ай бұрын

Yes, lawsuit update would be appreciated

@sals.4452 6 ай бұрын

Would love to buy one. I wouldn’t mind the ship time but there’s no way I’m touching cryptocurrency. I’m out until they figure that out.

@ebikeengineer 6 ай бұрын

Looks great, and you guys did a great job reviewing the product. I have no issue with Crypto, but I have an issue buying from a Russian website for numerous reasons. Are there plans for other companies to produce this product.

@jaredboulderterry3912 6 ай бұрын

I miss the hollow bore motore for uniwheeling

@kbren1 5 ай бұрын

great job boys!!!!

@pssita 6 ай бұрын

I’d like to know more about the lawsuit. Also! The bitcoin and Russian site are enough for me to wait until there are US dealers. Hopefully, that won’t make the price go up too much.