Dugtrio ISN'T Banned in Gen 3 OU. But Why?

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11 ай бұрын

Pokemon Gen 3 Competitive Singles is my favourite format. Despite being banworthy in every single other Generation of OU, Arena Trap is fully legal in Gen 3. While in Later Gens Dugtrio is centralizing and can trap important targets very safely and reliably, Dugtrio is a manageable presence in Gen 3 that struggles to get in safely and also sacrifices momentum when it Locks into a move to trap something.
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@jimothycool 11 ай бұрын

How Groudon Aged Perfectly. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbGdmJlqsc_Oiqc.html

@chilitofu3512 11 ай бұрын

imagine if dugtrio got renamed to "dugdugdug"

@anusthing 11 ай бұрын

Honestly with dudunsparce, this is a possible evolution lol

@noysam3570 11 ай бұрын

or diglettdiglettdiglett

@hanswurst9120 11 ай бұрын

And Diglett to Doug?

@Royyy13 11 ай бұрын

I like Dugcubed

@BlazeSLK 11 ай бұрын

@@Royyy13me too. 1³ is the same as 1x3 anyway so it works!

@Aoi_Tori_ 11 ай бұрын

Iron Brian definitely needs our help to reach Paldea quickly and safely with his middling 77 base speed

@jayanths1221 11 ай бұрын

Middling? More like mediocre.

@Feroror 11 ай бұрын

@@jayanths1221Mediocre? More like Bad

@relo999 11 ай бұрын

@@Feroror Bad? More like Abysmal

@filipantic5801 11 ай бұрын

Ahh i see his place in trick room teams already

@h2o684 11 ай бұрын

Bad? More like unusable

@jonfro-mez 11 ай бұрын

I always find it funny when I trap their skarm with magneton then my magneton is trapped by dug, then my porygon2 traps their dug. Just a chain of carnage.

@Imitationist 10 ай бұрын

Have you tried the same team but with Hariyama over Mag?

@DoctorThundah 11 ай бұрын

Came for the gen 3 ou analysis, stayed for Iron Brian and Great Neck

@mastervolg8768 11 ай бұрын

Arena trap is also legal in Gen 8 LC and although Diglett is one of the best mons there, it is not alone and faces competition from Trapinch.

@arthurrezende4943 11 ай бұрын

Until the tera nation attacked... yikes

@christopherdangelo1292 4 ай бұрын

Tbh I think it was also the fact it got sd

@christopherdangelo1292 4 ай бұрын

Because I doubt tera alone would have done it without it not just being an efficient trapper, but it also actually threatening a sweep with, say, tera dark sucker punch

@SkorpTS 11 ай бұрын

Without Dugtrio, the meta would probably be DDTar and Heracross spam. Not to mention Blissey would become even harder to deal with. Wouldn't be nearly as varied.

@Victini0510 11 ай бұрын

Very similar to Snorlax in GSC. It's the lynchpin that holds the meta together

@Fernes2171 11 ай бұрын

It's sad how Iron Brian is at least getting some recognition, yet everyone's just forgotten about the future paradox form of Dachsbun, Iron Breads

@tomgorey9294 11 ай бұрын

And it's past form, big wheat

@bg8561 11 ай бұрын

Iron Breads? No... It's *Iron Buns* !!

@honjon666 11 ай бұрын

@@tomgorey9294 sourdogh

@frogwhisperer4268 11 ай бұрын

Dugtrio is also legal in Gen 4 UU :) Although I think it's possible that it could get banned if Gen 4 UU was more developed.

@BladeRabbit 11 ай бұрын

Arena trap got banned in DPP after the format ended, its just they lock tiers/dont update the smogon sets. But yes for a time Dugtrio was UU with arena trap.

@tyler4965 11 ай бұрын

@@BladeRabbit arena trap is still legal in uu I believe

@frogwhisperer4268 11 ай бұрын

@@BladeRabbit Nah Arena trap is banned in OU but not UU. Google "DPP Arena Trap (Dugtrio) [Arena Trap is banned]" and go to post #13

@geometryemperor 11 ай бұрын

@@tyler4965 so is Sand Veil by the way. They are only banned from OU. Because of this, Dugtrio is unusable in OU, but can be used in UU.

@kirbymontrey3897 11 ай бұрын

Wait arena trap is legal in gen4 uu? Wtf

@DkKobaADV 11 ай бұрын

Ban dugtrio. - this message brought to you by the Ttar and Metagross gang

@tomgorey9294 11 ай бұрын

Tar takes a band eq from full

@DkKobaADV 11 ай бұрын

@@tomgorey9294 only if bulk invested 252 Atk Choice Band Dugtrio Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 328-386 (95.9 - 112.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO Also less than half the time after a spike with bulk (Also weird you assume the person with ADV in their username doesn't know this :p)

@Boamere 11 ай бұрын

I need more gen 3 OU lore

@Zaglik 11 ай бұрын

Another factor is that team preview tells you exactly who you need Dugtrio for, so it's easier to use.

@alejandrop.s.3942 11 ай бұрын

What team preview? Is that feature in Showdown?

@shadowdraqon2479 11 ай бұрын

You really don’t know what team preview is?

@thechronocrator 11 ай бұрын

@@alejandrop.s.3942 Team Preview is when you get to see the opponent's team at the start and pick your lead. Not a feature until Gen 5! Not a Showdown invention.

@alejandrop.s.3942 11 ай бұрын

@@thechronocrator I see, I only played till gen 4. Thanks for answering.

@bharatgoel8809 10 ай бұрын

I'd argue that team preview makes dug worse, since opponents will always be wary of its presence and can play smartly. This is pretty much exactly why team preview destroyed zoroark

@japethspeaketh7034 11 ай бұрын

Tyranitar: AAAHH!!!! WHY AREN'T YOU BANNED?? Dugtrio: **traps Tyranitar and Earthquakes it** Tyranitar: NOOOOOOO!!!!!

@honjon666 11 ай бұрын

I really dug this video on our favorite area trapper's balanced role in ADV

@peet-janissen5838 11 ай бұрын

i don't get it

@moyai5317 11 ай бұрын

Dugtrio when theres a superman team: 💀

@Sonicfan640 11 ай бұрын

Surprised you didn't mention Explosion as a gen 3 pivot move. It definitely does enough chip damage to allow Dugtrio to KO.

@sideways5153 11 ай бұрын

That’s such a hard commitment that I think everything said about Baton Pass applies to Explosion/Selfdestruct as well

@Imitationist 11 ай бұрын

Ghost Types are also common in gen 3, most common being Gengar who only takes damage from Sand, Burn and direct attacks. Gengar also packs WoW to neuter physical attackers.

@Sonicfan640 11 ай бұрын

@@Imitationist pretty sure Gengar is the only common ghost type in Gen 3 singles. And as common as it is, a lot of Metagross and Claydol sets still choose to run Explosion anyway. I wouldn't have mentioned Explosion if it wasn't a commonly used move.

@GrizlyWizard 11 ай бұрын

Another big addition for Dugtrio in gen 4 - life orb. It got to keep similar power while not getting locked into earthquake.

@leonardobarbosatelles2779 11 ай бұрын

I’ve theorized that former OU king Tyranitar, has made it’s way to the RU tier, only to defeat controversial Pokémon Iron Mugulis and it’s crew. Tyranitar’s typing makes it good against Iron Fellow and Spidops, and the SpDef boost it gets allows it to fair well against Mugulis. With a simple moveset of Rock Blast, Crunch, Earthquake and protect, it can defeat all 3, leaving only Garganacl and Old Money, which Iron Brian can go up against, to help our altruistic hero. Let’s hope Tyranitar and Iron Brian can end these menaces once and for all

@mrmangbro6842 11 ай бұрын

Youve single handedly made me have a love for gen 3 ou

@tysondennis1016 11 ай бұрын

Dugtrio gets checked by any Flying type and Porygon2.

@ChibiRuah 11 ай бұрын

I think kind of shows that in the right context, even very op abilities can be healthy for the game. It seems that area trap is only op because the ability to switch got easier along with with dugtrio getting slightly bette. If switching moves never happen, area trap may be not oppressive, though I agree that be less fun for the game.

@sideways5153 11 ай бұрын

Kinda interesting how buffing both entry hazards and pivot moves didn’t cancel out, and actually escalated the overall power level of the format in a lot of ways. Like, the intended counterplay to volt switch/u-turn was clearly supposed to be toxic spikes or stealth rock, but the two things kinda just ran parallel to each other and caused significant power creep. Less slap-fighting, more deciding games based on cutting-edge team building. Mixed attacking sets fading away and the rise of weather/terrain/etc centric teams are probably a consequence of power creep making less efficient/streamlined teams less viable

@Dankfort 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for getting it right. Too many people say it was gen 6 first, when it was gen 7 as you said

@projectxspectre 11 ай бұрын

Stickerbrush Symphony is such a beautiful song

@calamorta 10 ай бұрын

This channel is such a gem for gen 3 enjoyers.

@volzuloof 11 ай бұрын

I hope that Iron Brian will be a valuable asset against any future iron mugulis activity. It is good we have someone who knows how a future paradox thinks and acts.

@imagorll 11 ай бұрын

Love the gen 3 ou analysis. Really highlighted its differeneces from future metas and the explanations were quite thorough but also concise. Really like your vids!

@Adrian-ck2ns 11 ай бұрын

Love the content man keep it up!

@Jay-ho7sf 11 ай бұрын

These Gen 3 vids make me want to get back into playing it since I dropped after Gen 9 came out.

@moratgurgeh 11 ай бұрын

If Jim had simply switched Milo straight into Charizard at 8:30, Jim would have not been able to eliminate Jim’s Blissey so easily. An amateur error by Jim who has a long way to go before reaching Jim’s level.

@Tylericous 11 ай бұрын

Legit one of the best Pokémon videos, this was super entertaining hit also informative

@slowpr0 11 ай бұрын

Your videos have been recommended to me recently. I've never really played gen3 ou but that's about to change! Nice content

@MelonSeedOfficial 11 ай бұрын

This first time I heard the new paradox coballion name and was genuinely terrified that they called it Brian for a second

@markT4561 11 ай бұрын

Loving all the gen 3 videos!

@videakias3000 11 ай бұрын

thank you for making this video. I was wondering the same.

@lupuszero9879 11 ай бұрын

Ngl I thought that in later gens ghost types in general are immune to trapping, like not just shadow tag, but also arena trap. I guess not. Great video, this really shows how many big changes were introduced across generations.

@jimothycool 11 ай бұрын

Ghosts are also immune to Arena Trap, most of Dugs targets aren't Ghosts though

@dispentryporter8621 11 ай бұрын

They are immune to Arena Trap and all other forms of trapping, not just Shadow Tag.

@lupuszero9879 11 ай бұрын

@@jimothycool Aaaah I see, that makes sense, thanks for clearing it up

@Seekmire 11 ай бұрын

I like how Jimothy’s accent makes Iron and Brian kinda rhyme. It satisfies my smooth American brain.

@hypernova366 11 ай бұрын

I'm glad jimothy made these over 10 minutes it makes me very happy to see him get some fat stacks

@theimprovedbore550 11 ай бұрын

The Spirit of Great Tusk (Peace Be Upon Him) lives on in Iron Brian.

@nurrr897 10 ай бұрын

Decided to subscribe in support of Iron Brian. Haven't kept up with pokemon since the 3ds but I'm enjoying your videos enough to consider getting back into it

@ThatGuyThai 11 ай бұрын

As an old head I have no idea what all the extra fluff for the iron stuff is but seems the youngins enjoy it lol

@georgejackson1515 11 ай бұрын

Hey thanks for making gen 3 vids like this, it’s like a way more fun chess

@Jerome7-v5u 11 ай бұрын

For those wondering, Iron Brians stats are Necrozma-dusk manes

@lyingcorn 11 ай бұрын

Why are Iron Brian's stats odd? Is he secretly a past paradox form!

@matthewcampbell1241 11 ай бұрын

you make the best competitive pokemon content hands down no contest thank you

@zacherytaylor 11 ай бұрын

I've learned more about Gen 3 OU in the last 3 days than I have in my entire life

@NRF3703 10 ай бұрын

I think because there are enough Pokemon in OU with the Flying type and or Levitate ability as well as the fact that Dugtrio cannot stat boost or do cheap moves like Wobbuffett.

@livingthemcdream 11 ай бұрын

Ngl this gen 3 content is really makin me consider that subscribe button

@shanebarnes606 11 ай бұрын

Dugtrio is such an interesting Pokemon! I didn't know about its role in the metagame

@tecul1 11 ай бұрын

i wonder sometimes

@ctv186 11 ай бұрын

Welcome to the team, Iron Brian!

@lulu82o 11 ай бұрын

Iron Brian and Great Neck are joining the lore!!!

@Thomlin12 6 күн бұрын

It's also worth mentioning that sometimes Dugtrio ran Choice Scarf to out speed Tapu Koko if it were to try to U-turn out.

@9bit927 11 ай бұрын

Enjoying all this gen 3 ou content

@ZorryCafe 11 ай бұрын

iron brian needs our help!! (real o_O)

@Disguised_Cat 11 ай бұрын

Iron Brian, my beloved. I'll make sure you make it here safelt.

@bloodyacidtears1433 11 ай бұрын

Ngl was kinda caught off guard when I heard my name at 1:03 LMAO

@saltlakeatrocity9771 11 ай бұрын

I realized i was a pokenerd when I recognized Iron Brian's base stats as literally Dusk Mane Necrozma's base stats to the tee. I wonder if that has lore implications.

@monkdonk4095 11 ай бұрын

JIMOTHY COOL YOU FOUL!!!! BY MAKING A DUGTRIO VIDEO,YOU ALLOWED DUGTRIO TO ARENA TRAP IRON BRIAN AND LET IRON MUGULIUS COMMIT ITS WAR CRIMES!!! YOU DOOMED US ALL

@dannyorrmedia 11 ай бұрын

I've been using KZfaq since 2005 and yours are literally the only videos I've ever 'liked'. The ongoing Iron Mugulis saga is genuinely the funniest thing to me.

@gtothee5723 11 ай бұрын

Please keep the Gen 3 content coming! I never have played one competitive game of Pokémon but I love Gen 3!!!!!

@epicdude8742 11 ай бұрын

Iron Brian has yet to earn my trust, I've never found anyone that boring to be morally scrupulous.

@brett1908 11 ай бұрын

Interesting video

@grunkleg.3110 11 ай бұрын

BRIAN, LOOK OUT!

@dinoman6481 11 ай бұрын

10:40 Skyhops patreon is a threat!!! His favorite Pokémon is Iron Mugulis!!!

@duelme1234 11 ай бұрын

Dug facilitates stally teams? Isnt one of the main styles facilitated by dig special offensive?

@tomgorey9294 11 ай бұрын

In modern gens dug facilitates stall

@duelme1234 11 ай бұрын

@tomgorey9294 8:03 . Yes I'm aware that it does that in modern gens, but that's not what jim is saying at all here. also in bkc's video on the same topic months back, most of it covered how dug relates to offensive progress.

@toolofthelord 9 ай бұрын

you make me want to play gen 3 ou now

@doopness785 11 ай бұрын

Anyone who says arena trap is the issue is crazy. Let’s see them win with Trapinch.

@mariosain6236 11 ай бұрын

Whatching your videos for the content. 🙂 Whatching your videos for the Iron Mugulis lore. 😎

@91Caesar 11 ай бұрын

Can you make a video about your preferred colours for different types of balloons?

@A3STH3T1CS 11 ай бұрын

Iron Brian will surely be helpful with it's wonderful typing against iron mugulis and his gang

@rkovacs4190 11 ай бұрын

Can u cover some gen3 random battles strategies/pokemon variants?

@ernestomoreno4409 11 ай бұрын

Trapping abilities are awesome. I'm not a fan of banning them. I've lost to them but that's part of the fun.

@THTB614 11 ай бұрын

So basically, Dugtrio became a problem when Stealth Rock got introduced.

@jouheikisaragi6075 6 ай бұрын

More proof Stealth Rock was a mistake

@jotarokujo8344 11 ай бұрын

It's amazing that dugtrio turned from being OU in gen 3 to NU in later generations

@DisastrousIntentionally 11 ай бұрын

Cause Arena Trap got banned.

@alejandrop.s.3942 11 ай бұрын

I think if Dugtrio is paired with a mon that has previously either cause some serious damage to the mon that Dugtrio needs to defeat but it can't OHKO by itself before being killed, or that it has performed some form of sacrificial move to dent the enemy's stats (memento, screech, tail whip...) it's a real deal (pure-clear body users tho) . Magneton and Dugtrio together are fearsome. But by itself it's not broken, at least not in gen3.

@Harry-mf6rq 11 ай бұрын

It's all fun and games until Iron Dugulis turns up

@santasangre996 11 ай бұрын

dugtrio is the kinda mon you hate to play against but hate even more to use yourself

@chess_fella 11 ай бұрын

Dugtrio moment

@Boamere 11 ай бұрын

Honestly jim I think you should sing your outro

@tyler4965 11 ай бұрын

another banger

@feelsokayman5656 11 ай бұрын

Great neck Lmao

@cartervoltfire4933 Ай бұрын

I always wondered why Dugtrio (and to a lesser extent Magneton) didn't have a Duo form

@algar6616 11 ай бұрын

Brian an upstanding gent frfr

@haveatyouvillain1033 11 ай бұрын

don’t forget ghost types are immune to trapping too

@hessiankyojin 11 ай бұрын

Skarmory's best friend in ADV OU

@ultimapower6950 11 ай бұрын

1:00 isn’t that in the distortion world why would Brian want to go there?

@elmago2808 11 ай бұрын

So Iron Mugulis' stats are that of Primal Kyogre, Great Neck's are Zekrom's and Iron Brian's are Dusk Mane Necrozma's

@DeckKnight 11 ай бұрын

As a fellow Brian, I can get behind Iron Brian.

@PWNAGE703 11 ай бұрын

Iron mugulous is gonna be so broken can’t wait for vgc debut

@thomasadams8463 11 ай бұрын

Keep up these adv videos

@Mr_White69420 11 ай бұрын

kingambit just survive the suspect test... i cant- its just so unfair...😕

@mayac69 11 ай бұрын

Superman teams: "Pathetic"

@dastardlydwarf6909 11 ай бұрын

Get dugged

@juliner4036 11 ай бұрын

We have sabotage the train of Iron Brian, so that it lands in Kanto, where it won't come in the way of Iron Mugulis.

@jacobmorris6357 11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't mind arena trap in gen 8 OU, anything to get rid of clefable

@autobotstarscream765 11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the Clefable Trainer would also have Dugtrio to trap and kill your Dugtrio to clear the way for their Clefable to filibuster the battle.

@jacobmorris6357 11 ай бұрын

@@autobotstarscream765 I guess so. Once I tried mean look Bisharp to get rid of it, but after I put it on the team, I didn't find a single clefable for 5 matches.

@autobotstarscream765 11 ай бұрын

@@jacobmorris6357 Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Clefable Trainer would use Dug to hunt down and trap your Bisharp.