Jinhao 35 Calligraphy Nib vs Lamy Cursive Nib

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I ordered a nib and received a PEN! I'm much more interested in the nib but I unbox it, talk about the parts and features of the pen, provide some measurements, and then do a writing sample.
But mostly I'm comparing the Chinese calligraphy nib with my Lamy Cursive nib to see how they compare on my Jinhao 80.
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@williamcatalano1762 Жыл бұрын

The Inkvent calendar videos are a good idea Doug. Looking forward to that as well. Keep the good ideas flowing my friend.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

@ferrypen4952 Жыл бұрын

An interesting comparison, many thanks. I did think about getting one of the Lamy nibs but decided against it as my OM Lamy nib was so much of a gusher. I've ordered one of the Chinese nibs and also noted they do a Naginata style hooded nib, so I ordered one of those as well. Can't wait to see how they perform!

@tictac9074 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have been writing with the Lamy Chinese Calligraphy nib since spring, it's now one of my favorites. I might have to check out this nib you presented here myself

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

@theProf_01 Жыл бұрын

I have both the silver hardware and all black versions of the 80. I put a black medium Lamy nib on the all black version. It really looks stealthy, and it is medium wet and is a smooth writer. Thanks for your review showing the fun this pen affords with those additional nib options! Looking forward to resurrection Sunday. Thanks 😎👍.

@chopsticks51 Жыл бұрын

You’ve just given me the perfect idea of where to park the Lamy M nib from the Safari on which I am planning to put the soon to be acquired Cursive nib

@coreyjs55 Жыл бұрын

For the name of that nib, might I suggest “Nagi-nada Togi” or my favourite, “Nagi-not-a Togi”. Mine just came in and I especially like it for printing.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

LOL! Notta Togi!

@aag24 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Prof Doug. What a delightful video! You always make such excellent videos. God Save The King (of Canada)!

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Thank you! God Save the King

@DBachiniLima Жыл бұрын

I never got around to commenting on your videos, Doug, but I've been binge-watching them for the past few months. I lost a great friend who introduced me to fountain pens and going back to using them was a way of dealing with my grief. I really like your videos, including your inserts, but I end up not having much to comment on, even because I have few pens and little opportunity to get something more expensive. Today, the pen I paid the highest price for was precisely your recommendation, the Jinhao 100, which despite the different external shape, feels very similar in the hand to my first pen, a Nemosine Singularity. I'm still trying to get other Nemosine nibs to use in Jinhao, but Birmingham Pens don't ship to Brazil. But my point of commenting, in addition to having an opportunity to finally praise and thank you for the videos, is also to thank you for showing this non-naginata Nib. I made a purchase of 25 Chinese pens. Some with different #5 tip sizes that allow me to experiment with something beyond just F and XF. From 1.1mm to 2.9mm. Some pens to give away to friends who find it interesting to write again in this digital age. But the main thing for me (besides the Jinhao 100 I mentioned) are the 4 Jinhao 80 I bought, especially a white one, which I chose to receive this Non-Naginata Nib. It was the best writing experience I've ever had in my life! I have little experience I know but it was just sublime. I became interested in fountain pens because of the fine nibs (extra fine in this case) that allowed me to have much more control over my terrible handwriting derived from my adhd. But this Pen, with this nib, was a realization and a pleasure to write that I can't explain. I've written several pages with it and I just want to keep writing with it as often as possible because it's such a pleasure. So even though it was a long and boring comment, I wanted to at least write it here and thank you for it. Thank you very much.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful - NON BORING - comment Diego! I'm so pleased you found a pen/nib/paper combination that brings you so much pleasure. Your choice of word - sublime - says it all! Cheers and keep writing and watching!

@jaimejaime1178 Жыл бұрын

Hi Dough... Jim from Madrid (Spain) - an expat living abroad! First of all.. I just watched both your videos (the one on the Jinhao 80 and this one) and I didn't know about either the JH 80 nor the not-Naginata Togi nib (specially with a LAMY style nib). As you know from previous comments, I not only use my Fountain Pens for writing purposes (and as EDC pens) but I use them a lot for Art purposes (Drawing, Sketching and Line and Wash with watercolors, and with non-soluable and soluable inks). I use EF-F-M-Fude nibs usually but I wanted to try a Naginata Togi type nib, both for calligraphy as well as sketching and this is a reasonably priced option to try it out. So... Thank You very much again for sharing this info!!!! And if you're ever in Spain... let me know! Cheers from Sunny Spain (though not so Sunny these days an days to come - we're having very atypical weather for this time if year!).

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@lk26181 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for an insightful review!

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@deloceanophoto Жыл бұрын

A little off topic, but as you mentioned waiting for your other Jinhao 80s, thought I’d share my thoughts and actions. I like the 80s, but the one thing that to me felt cheap was the surface finish… a little shinier than real macrolon and yo can see the seam. I gave all three that I have a rough up with the coarsest of my micromeh pads(vertical movements only) and they now have a much nicer feeling and looking surface finish.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Good tip!

@MrCabimero Жыл бұрын

On behalf of all us Nibnutz, thanks as always for this video. I am hooked on architect/ No-your-notta Naginata nibs thanks to you and will be getting this nib.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@greyareaRK1 Жыл бұрын

You had me at Majohn P135, but the nib is very nice too. I'm using a Lamy 1.1 on an JH80, and quite like that.

@adearquiteto Жыл бұрын

And I used my "Naginata" model Lamy in a Lamy Joy pen, and it turned out great!!!!

@MissMarilynDarling Жыл бұрын

I too will be reviewing the 2022 Diamine Inkvent Calendar I cant wait look forward to that :) This is a crazy nib kind of like a zoom nib

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Cool!

@davidnygard1817 Жыл бұрын

I like the Chinese Calligraphy nib a lot. Well worth a try. In defense of my earlier comment on Duck Tape, I've seen it also a Duct Tape. I've been corrected both ways and I believe this is could be a manufacturer specific thing. Seems to work for me but I dry the heck out of the nib first with a Dust Blaster. I have recently received my color Jinhao 80's. Terrific pens but half of them had crap converters that did not have a seal at all at the top where the twist knob is affixed. Dribbled like crazy until I used a few spare Lamy converters which work with this pen perfectly. I keep a few extra converters of various sizes in my parts box because they have been handy in the past for other pens. I still think the Jinhao 80 is a very special pen, but I have purchased a slew of new converters just in case. I will also look into the Majohn P136. Their A1 is a great pen, I would expect this to be pretty good also. Thank you!

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Yeah. You can actually get a brand name "DUCK TAPE" that has a duck on it! LOL I've got a P136 on the way!

@paulherman5822 Жыл бұрын

Interesting! Yep, the 35 is basically just a nib holder. Pretty much designed like plenty from the 1970s, it's that slim (though I do have slimmer, like my single Hero, the "360°." Kept only for the "freakish factor," not because it's an exceptional writer with truly adequate ink capacity.) But it does work for certain potentially problematic inks, so I can still use it. Sparingly. Don't have this type of nib, however. Might have to look into getting one, as I have several other pens, potentially better, it'd work in. Thanks for sharing this intriguing nib!

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

I've got four more Jinhao 80 pens coming. I'll have to spread these cool nibs around.

@davidmcguigan5497 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Doug! Jinhao scores again with the 80 and the many nibs you can use. I've not heard the phrase "feedback experience" before, nor as something you could want. Cheers!

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

It is a very personal thing. Do you like to feel the nib move across the page because it gives you more control? Or are you one of those who love the glassy feel of no feedback at all. It could be a Sailor vs Pilot argument.

@nope8535 9 ай бұрын

I want that nib on the Jinhao 35...and I like the pen. Although I also have some jinhao 80s on my list so worst case I swap nibs if I dont like the 35 and give it away.

@AlphineWolf Жыл бұрын

Soooo the knockoff of the knockoff actually works better than the knockoff made by Lamy 😆 . Bet Platinum is having a field day with this.

@oswjim Жыл бұрын

if you pay close attention when selecting the fifth option it is described as: Color: Jinhao 35 Pen Silver -- so the seller was correct in sending you what you order 😁

@MSSmith1022 Жыл бұрын

I believe the logo on the nib may be for one of the Majohn factories. This company makes parts for Moonman, Jinhao, Wingsung, and a few other pen companies.

@JennyEverywhere Жыл бұрын

Very nice video! I want to find some nibs for my Hongdian/Asvine titanium forest pen. Thing is, the nib on it now is also plated with the titanium dioxide rainbow color, and if like to keep that if possible. I _think_ it's Lamy style, but I'm still new to fountain pens and I'll have to take closeup pics and compare. That calligraphy nib you received on the nib holder looked great. If it looks as though it will fit, I may get one even in plain steel, but I want something more expressive, even if it's just italic nibs, in titanium rainbow. Do you know of a source for titanium dioxide nibs in general, or is it just catch as catch can?

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

There are some interesting finishes here: tinyurl.com/yrxbac7j

@mrcharon6197 Жыл бұрын

They say 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth' but none of them have been gifted a craptastic steel nib holder!!! LOL Anyhow, thanks for another solid review. I've gotten a few #6 nibs with that 'not a Naginata Togi' grind and I use them in a few different pens. They are fun to mix things up a little.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

So true

@mrcharon6197 Жыл бұрын

@@InkquiringMinds oddly enough I received both my Jinhao 80s in today's mail. I used an eyeglasses screw driver to gently push up the nib. If done with care and patience you will not mar the grip section. As a testament to cleaning your new pens, the feed started to lift with one of mine and it was caked with blue ink. A few hours later it sports a Lamy broad nib and Iroshizuku Yama Budo... While I have some concern how long this plastic is going to last, this looks like it will be a fun pen for my work bag..

@archivist17 Жыл бұрын

This is very interesting in so many ways...

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Let me count the ways...

@edwardwiper1323 Жыл бұрын

I have a Lamy 1.1 on my 80 & I like it so much I’ve order another in red along with 3 Nagi (style) nibs &spare feed’sWill be interested in the ink vent video,have looked at these for the last 2yrs but there as always been a percentage of the inks I was not keen on.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

I've never done the Inkvent Calendar before. Should be fun!

@ibpopp Жыл бұрын

Allowing that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery it seems that Lamy have become the de facto world leaders in exchangeable nibs. Will they ever expand their range a la Esterbrook or Osmiroid? Thanks for your second Sunday special. I eagerly await more. G'daaay from the koalas.

@oscarmedina1597 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this comparison. I got the Lamy “Cursive” nib and didn’t like it. But I just ordered two of these non-Naginata Togi nib holders, some extra feeds (just in case), and another Majohn A1 (for kicks). I have a bunch of Lamy Studios for the new nibs, so I’ll just use the nib holders as give-away pens.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Terrific!

@AlphineWolf Жыл бұрын

Sooo the knockoff sucks while the knockoff of the knockoff is better. Maybe it's due to Lamy trying their own spin on it so they don't get in trouble for copycats

@samyg123 Жыл бұрын

I am still waiting for a few of the colored Jinhao 80s too. Im curious if your stumbled upon any gold plated Lamy style nibs in your search? I was hoping to find one that matches their trim.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

There are a few to choose from here: tinyurl.com/yrxbac7j

@MrAndrew1953 Жыл бұрын

M= Miaow with a cat’s whisker through the M. Trust me. I always use a small piece of rubber cut from a bicycle tube to remove nibs. It’s just a matter of whatever works best for you in the end.

@MrCabimero Жыл бұрын

Doug thanks for this. So Lamy nibs come in all kinds of designations which confuse me. Can you tell me which ones are applicable to the Jinhao 80? Thanks.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Any Z50 style Lamy nib will fit the Jinhao 80.

@yappytown Жыл бұрын

I JUST received two Jinhao 80s (gonna see if I can get some cartidges and give one to my hubby) and I wanna get a cursive and the naginata you showed. I love how the pen feels already, but haven't written with it yet. Bought them after watching your review ;)

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

That is awesome!

@yappytown Жыл бұрын

@@InkquiringMinds Just wanted to update, WOW they are lovely writers! I forgot if you mentioned it ... but what carts can they take if they do? I bought a set of Jinhao brand cartridges and they don't fit :-\ Gave one to my husband and had to fill the converter it came with and ... well he's not a fountain pen guy, hoping he might try it and like it, but wanted ease of use cartridges.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

@@yappytown The Jinhao 80 and 35 take Parker long and short cartridges.

@edwardstaats4935 Жыл бұрын

Could you let me know if it is the large bore size? I need one that has the large bore since I have long large bore cartridges

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Yeah. They are the same size as a standard (long or short) Parker cartridge (Penbbs size as well)

@1234eyes1234 Жыл бұрын

I did the same thing: bought two Jinhaos and replaced the nibs with Lamy nibs - excellent combo. But at both fountain pens (EF and B), the nibs write alternately very wet and very dry, following exactly the same rhythm. If I write a page, the writing becomes exactly four times thicker (wet) and thinner (dry). Do you have any idea what the reason could be? The ink?

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

It is just the luck of the draw. Quality control on these mass produced nibs is almost non-existent.

@paulmchugh1430 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting comparison. I never had the Sailor Naginata Togi nib but I did have a Zoom nib which seems to have the same characteristics. It was fun to write with but not one I kept. However for the price of this non-Naginata Togi nib, I may try it again. I have never been a fan of Lamy nibs. I have a left handed nib that I never used. If you know someone who would enjoy it, let me know. I did order the P136 from Sally. I was told it will not be shipped until October. I am guessing it has a #8 nib? It is a beautiful looking homage to the MB 149. Did you order the wrench? It's two sided, one for the piston and one for the feed.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

Yes. I ordered the wrench. I wasn't sure if it came with the pen as there were photos of the wrench in the listing for the pen.

@paulmchugh1430 Жыл бұрын

@@InkquiringMinds most said they did not have the wrench. Sally did for $4

@MrAndrew1953 Жыл бұрын

You're right about the Lamy 'China' nib being addictive. The N6 long knife nib has a more pronounced architect tip.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

The nib on my Hongdian N23 is a “blade” or long knife. They are all architects. Very nice.

@RuairiODonnellFOTO 3 ай бұрын

Where did you get the generic calligraphy nib that has the pear shape? I cannot find it online

@InkquiringMinds 3 ай бұрын

See the video at 6:41.

@deloceanophoto Жыл бұрын

An Aussie saying… if it can’t be fixed with gaffer tape… it can’t be fixed.

@ArkansasMike Жыл бұрын

Do you know what size nib the MaJohn P136 has?

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

I haven't got it in my hands yet, but I'm reading it is a #6.

@ArkansasMike Жыл бұрын

@@InkquiringMinds Ok, thank you.

@krishnapatil3927 Жыл бұрын

Can i use for note taking in fast? Please replay

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't. It is a calligraphy nib.

@krishnapatil3927 Жыл бұрын

@@InkquiringMindscan you suggest a fountain pen in $4 metal body for note taking

@tdowling149 Жыл бұрын

Think of the Jinhao 35 not as a lousy pen, but as a steel nib holder designed to withstand the rigors of Canada Post.

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

LOL! Canada Post isn't so bad but Canada Customs SUCKS big time! ;)

@origamichik3n Жыл бұрын

I actually paid money for Jinhao 35, but the ink feed was so bad that it was just plain unpleasant to write. At least it wasn't an expensive disappointment :)

@Javi_C Жыл бұрын

Oooooo

@veejay-Vee_Jay Жыл бұрын

Doug, stop that clock please !!!

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

LOL. No! I just got the 50 year old clock working again!

@veejay-Vee_Jay Жыл бұрын

@@InkquiringMinds No, sorry I wanted to say that the clock in front of you on your desk is picked up by the microphone and can be heard in the background. I would never allow myself to make appreciations about your person. I got help from the automatic translator, so forgive some linguistic typos. Best regards

@veejay-Vee_Jay Жыл бұрын

I looked around me throughout the video to look in my room for what that noise was making then I noticed that the noise was coming from the video. I am very sensitive to continuous noises and they give me boredom, sorry

@InkquiringMinds Жыл бұрын

@@veejay-Vee_Jay No worries VeeJay! I know it can be picked up by the microphone, but it is a 1950's wind-up clock and the only way to silence it is put it in the other room when I record.