I got some issues with flags

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J.J. McCullough

J.J. McCullough

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There's a lot of things wrong with flags and flag culture these days, including fake flags, anachronistic flags, and misassumptions about flag traditions around the world.
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@SaintsAwayOllie
@SaintsAwayOllie 3 жыл бұрын
The way the pride flag keeps needing to be updated goes against the whole point of it. It’s a rainbow it’s abstract to begin with, therefore representing all people. By sticking on specific references on it, you’re inevitably going to exclude someone and it’ll be out of date soon. Stick to the simple rainbow and this is all avoided.
@Glen_lastname
@Glen_lastname 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
@LARKXHIN
@LARKXHIN 3 жыл бұрын
@DarkErminia I don't know, I feel the people who are concerned about the Pride Flag and the American flag are more than likely two different groups. I'm Bi, American, and also black. I don't have love for the American flag, but I don't get too in arms about changes to the Pride flag.
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why we have a flag that lasted for 40 years now need to be updated 5 times in less than 10 years. Once you start down this path, there's no way to refuse anyone from demanding an alteration without being a hypocrite.
@sdrawkcabUK
@sdrawkcabUK 3 жыл бұрын
@@Glen_lastname Me three. The new flag (or flags - I've seen numerous variants) just reeks of virtue signalling bs, and speaks to the weaponisation of identity that's become all too common these days (as flying the old flag could now be construed as racist/transphobic etc.).
@starsiadraws
@starsiadraws 3 жыл бұрын
@@sdrawkcabUK That reminds me of how it's now considered transphobic to use the all pink lesbian flag instead of the "correct" flag when the orange flag is only like three years old and the all pink one (minus the lipstick) isn't even transphobic to begin with. Like I've seen lesbians be harassed by non-lesbians for it.
@mattdoull7820
@mattdoull7820 3 жыл бұрын
It's kind if baffling that a flag that is almost literally "all the colours of the rainbow" could possibly be judged as not being inclusive enough.
@tomfuller4205
@tomfuller4205 3 жыл бұрын
Because those groups want special treatment.
@nararabbit1
@nararabbit1 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomfuller4205 I think it’s more that virtue signaling weirdos decided they need to butt in. I don’t know anyone, LGBT or otherwise, who likes the “new” flag. So who came up with it?
@riograndedosulball248
@riograndedosulball248 3 жыл бұрын
There is a joke to be made about said group, but I would rather not be imprisoned, good evening lads
@diaderg
@diaderg 3 жыл бұрын
the progress flag is basically exclusively used by pushover liberals who care less about the lgbt community and only want to look good
@emizerri
@emizerri 3 жыл бұрын
I actually got banned from a Discord server for saying this lol
@saffy7923
@saffy7923 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda never know how to feel about the ever-changing 'official' lgbtq+ flags, because the original rainbow one I believe does a fantastic job with already including everyone. It literally has every color.
@psycholaw4394
@psycholaw4394 2 жыл бұрын
Still dont understand why its a rainbow. Rainbows are illusions that only appear when humdity/pespective/sun meet crossover Also science, the great taboo
@0xt10
@0xt10 2 жыл бұрын
@@psycholaw4394 I always thought it was a rainbow because rainbows span across every colour, showing the diversity of the flag and how it represents a wide variety of human experiences
@bobbyferg9173
@bobbyferg9173 2 жыл бұрын
6 different colors is a lot for a flag, but the simplicity of it being a rainbow in a line makes it not overly complex. But these other flags that add tons of different colors and shapes makes for a much more complex flag that really is just an eyesore to look at
@orionfernandes4587
@orionfernandes4587 2 жыл бұрын
@@0xt10 no
@orionfernandes4587
@orionfernandes4587 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluishbuncake A rainbow
@no-hc2ko
@no-hc2ko 2 жыл бұрын
they should add a Welsh dragon to the Union Jack cos Dragons are rad
@boopdeboop4342
@boopdeboop4342 2 жыл бұрын
Cdawg va would agree
@nore5888
@nore5888 2 жыл бұрын
Found the Cdawg Alt
@NakAlienEd
@NakAlienEd 2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that adding elements to the Union Jack (like the Welsh Dragon) is one of the few 'change the flag' arguments with any traction since it is literally composed of the flags of the other members of the 'United Kingdom'. It seems like it would be like adding a new US state without adding a new star to the US flag.
@no-hc2ko
@no-hc2ko 2 жыл бұрын
@@NakAlienEd yep I'm of the same opinion too. the Welsh aren't really potrayed on the flag and I feel like it would be somewhat unifying and it's long overdue
@lime1368
@lime1368 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@withouthavingseen
@withouthavingseen 3 жыл бұрын
"Just because French people come in all different sizes." Those French flags were golden, man.
@omargerardolopez3294
@omargerardolopez3294 3 жыл бұрын
pretty sure they were just blue-white-red coloured
@marcussinclaire4890
@marcussinclaire4890 3 жыл бұрын
@@omargerardolopez3294 I was going to say that! 😋👌
@mr.bluefox3511
@mr.bluefox3511 3 жыл бұрын
Im just gonna put it here 12:21 The editing & sound effect are just great. I burst out laughting twice in my first watch XD
@ultrademigod
@ultrademigod 2 жыл бұрын
Their flag should be red, white, and rosé.
@SpaghettiRoad
@SpaghettiRoad 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but somehow "being a KZfaqr stumbling into a flag identity" is something I can somehow relate to...
@endangsaptorini563
@endangsaptorini563 3 жыл бұрын
You still on your road trip?
@Uvarinu
@Uvarinu 3 жыл бұрын
Hello
@Diorite_man
@Diorite_man 3 жыл бұрын
*stumbling into a distinct taste for sauerkraut
@Schoritzobandit
@Schoritzobandit 3 жыл бұрын
Get back to editing or driving you Danish knave
@ahmeds8506
@ahmeds8506 3 жыл бұрын
okay now go east
@DavidBennettPiano
@DavidBennettPiano 2 жыл бұрын
In England, flying an England flag (rather than a Union Jack) is sometimes perceived as someone being overly nationalistic and possibly even xenophobic. Unless of course it’s World Cup season and then everyone and their Nan has a England flag up!
@sammyboyth453
@sammyboyth453 2 жыл бұрын
Crossover Episode
@TankEngine75
@TankEngine75 Жыл бұрын
But why is that? What's wrong with waving a flag? How it's it nationalist to wave a flag? I can understand if it's a flag of a dictatorship but England isn't one
@PatchCornAdams723
@PatchCornAdams723 Жыл бұрын
Yeah some people are very stupid, their asinine opinions don't matter.
@jacksongatens2419
@jacksongatens2419 3 жыл бұрын
They should update the Union Jack because who the hell wouldn’t want a dragon on their flag?
@Bmc728
@Bmc728 2 жыл бұрын
Bhutan is cool because they have a dragon on their flag
@erikharaldsson2416
@erikharaldsson2416 2 жыл бұрын
People who wants to exclude Wales?
@Bmc728
@Bmc728 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikharaldsson2416 *losers
@snapbacktoreality48
@snapbacktoreality48 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should’ve just gave Northern Ireland back to Ireland and put the wales dragon on it
@the4tierbridge
@the4tierbridge 2 жыл бұрын
Me. The Welsh suck.
@thesensur6214
@thesensur6214 3 жыл бұрын
Possible controversial opinion about a flag here: But I really hate the more modern version of the LGBTQ+ flag, adding tan, black and brown to the flag is really weird to me, as it almost suggests that because of their lack of inclusion on the flag, White, Asian, Indian etc members of the community are less important. I would have preferred they stuck to just the rainbow one, as it pretty easily conveyed “Diversity” pretty well. the newer one tries to be diverse by being super specific, which doesn’t make any sense.
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. Once you are being as literal as “the flag must have everybody’s skin tones on it” you’re setting an impossible standard of inclusivity that will never be met.
@mrtortoise3766
@mrtortoise3766 3 жыл бұрын
I get that
@humanbeing7504
@humanbeing7504 3 жыл бұрын
it also implies that trans people aren't included under the "original" pride flag
@Joetar5
@Joetar5 3 жыл бұрын
It's because much of the fighting for lgbtq rights was done by trans poc
@msherd130
@msherd130 3 жыл бұрын
Also super confused why there is a sex worker umbrella? What does that have to do with pride/LGBT? Like I get that some LGBT people may be sex workers, but doesn't make sense to me as a gay man who is not a sex worker to have "my" pride flag include sex worker references.
@nicholasfish6793
@nicholasfish6793 3 жыл бұрын
The worst part of online flag culture to me would be the treatment of the "Five Principles of Flag Design" as gospel. It leads to a lot of criticism of well-recognizable and meaningful flags as poorly designed for seemingly superficial reasons.
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! This is a great pet peeve of mine as well
@coquimapping8680
@coquimapping8680 3 жыл бұрын
I personally dislike the rule that a flag has to be simple enough for a child to draw it from memory. Personally, it should that it would be at least recognizable if a child drew it from memory.
@sig_pagot
@sig_pagot 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree, especially when they are used to judge a flag that has other purposes than representing a country of something like that. It's just silly to use the same metrics for a country's flag and a flag used by a neighbourhood of a small community.
@TheAlexSchmidt
@TheAlexSchmidt 3 жыл бұрын
@@coquimapping8680 Yeah, it's not that easy to remember flags that well. Also, flags that are easy to remember are often boring. I think that a flag being recognizable in black and white is cool too (and also helps the color blind a bit) but many simple designs wouldn't pass that. One of the big problems with the "seal on a bedsheet" designs is that they make flags less unique, but really simple flags aren't all that unique either.
@perfilgenerico8717
@perfilgenerico8717 3 жыл бұрын
That the one complain about this community, especially because i'm a brazilian and pur flag break two rule: it has something Whitten on it and the stars are too hard to anyone draw. Most of the flags i like breaks those two rules
@gerulata7722
@gerulata7722 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked to use the expression "Expatriotism" to describe the phenomena of emigrants seemingly being more patriotic in their newly settled country than they would be back home
@saulgoodmanKAZAKH
@saulgoodmanKAZAKH 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because they CHOSE to live in that place, rather than their true homeland. But, I don't agree with that anyways
@takix2007
@takix2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH I think he meant, being more patriotic towards their original country. In Europe this is fairly common, people originating from Algeria, Morocco, and such, will often wave flags from their origin country in all sorts of contexts (where it has no reason to be waved). For example, during football matches where neither Algeria nor any algerian player is playing. Or after the election of François Hollande in 2012. The same happens inside countries : in France, people from Brittany (but not living in Brittany) won't shut up about their salted butter and wave "Gwenn-ha-du" flags at all sorts of events, things they would most probably not do "at home". Maybe it is just a way of sticking out.
@duffman18
@duffman18 2 жыл бұрын
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH You don't understand, we're talking about for example brits emigrating from the UK and immigrating to spain, and the brits becoming way more nationalist for THE UK while living over there. Not being patriotic about Spain. The vast majority of british immigrants living in hot mediterranean countries voted FOR brexit. Seriously. And now it's biting them all on the arse because now those countries like Spain and France have kicked them out and told them they'd be illegal immigrants if they didn't leave and move back to the UK. It's bizarre for a person living somewhere else in the EU, and only being allowed to live there because the UK was in the EU, then voting for the UK to leave the EU so that these immigrants are no longer allowed to live there. Delicious schadenfreude for the smart ones of us in the UK who voted remain. At least we get to see the pain the brexit voters brought on themselves entirely because of their own actions.
@yoda2495
@yoda2495 2 жыл бұрын
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH a. You misinterpreted the comment B. I agree with the statement, that i don't have to be proud of nation that i had no say of being born in
@jamesrosewell9081
@jamesrosewell9081 2 жыл бұрын
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH this
@bisneytm1511
@bisneytm1511 2 жыл бұрын
The countryball fandom doesn't think there's a flag for every country ever It's just there's nothing else you can use for the ball of mesopotamia
@WNSQ-TV
@WNSQ-TV 9 ай бұрын
idk why use countryballs as an example of this considering countryball comics and animations arent as serious as other topics
@riesenbonobo7846
@riesenbonobo7846 9 ай бұрын
@@WNSQ-TV Yeah struck me as odd too. Like the modern german flag is often used in country balls to represent the germanic people who are a) much older and b) are a much more broad group, not because of some political reason or to 'push an anachronistic view of histroy' but because those comic strips are light hearted fun and not at all a correct historical represenation
@Johia_Mapping_2
@Johia_Mapping_2 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it really put me off
@KhAnubis
@KhAnubis 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I kind of agree with the abstract approach, sometimes the more you include the more you might also exclude (The EU flag might be a good example since its just 12 stars on a blue background to represent Europe, at least a lot better than the original proposed design ever could)
@jfrm_559
@jfrm_559 3 жыл бұрын
Hello
@stefanosanastasi99
@stefanosanastasi99 3 жыл бұрын
The original one was just horrendous!
@mirabeaux851
@mirabeaux851 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this video gets some ppl to be okay with (non-US locality flags) flags designs and proposals for places “just because they look cool/good”.
@FairyCRat
@FairyCRat 3 жыл бұрын
As a European, I honestly don't really like our flag. I use it a lot because European identity means a lot to me, but I do believe in the theory that it was made up with Christianity in mind (blue as a Marian color, and the 12 stars representing the Apostles) which was obviously a bad decision as Europe nowadays is almost entirely secular and many Europeans are irreligious or part of other religions. The official interpretation on the other hand, is extremely vague and doesn't really make much sense to me.
@FairyCRat
@FairyCRat 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanosanastasi99 What was the original flag proposal?
@SirioResteghini
@SirioResteghini 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the best way of being inclusive is not to include many little details but to use a generic, inoffensive symbol. I think the flags of Japanese prefectures are a great example of this
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Canada’s flag is good too for this reason but I didn’t want to be braggy.
@slaya_mappy
@slaya_mappy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you add symbols for one specific group, you have to add them for all specific groups, else the flag looks like it's specifically excluding them.
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 3 жыл бұрын
The Pride flag is a great example of this failing. The “official” flag stood as it was for, I think, 50 years? But now in the past 10 years it’s been updated at least 5 times as they added in more stripes and designs to explicitly represent certain groups. And now that they’ve started, it’s difficult to say “no more changes” without coming across as bigoted.
@SirioResteghini
@SirioResteghini 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJMcCullough how could I forget
@SirioResteghini
@SirioResteghini 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonydelfino6171 I agree that the pride flag that JJ showed in the video is bad, but I've actually never seen it used outside of the internet. It's always either the rainbow flag or the rainbow flag with the chevron (or the trans flag or the bi flag or whatever, but those are different altogether)
@jesuscallsmeflo1189
@jesuscallsmeflo1189 2 жыл бұрын
As a German i can confirm that waving the flag or even just hanging it in your ground is uncommon and very suspicous to a lot of us. The connection is If you proudly represent the flag you may bei a fascist. Also this flag waving on especially Football a.e. soccer events is a pretty new thing that grew over time 10-15 years ago you would see und only a view flags even on world Championship matches
@okamiwithacamera6077
@okamiwithacamera6077 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how different american attitudes are to german ones because of our history. While where im sitting, you display the stars and stripes or else youre a liberal fascist communist anarchist glue eater, its interesting that in germany, because....*that* time period, you guys consider waving your flag liberally dangerously nationalist. Tldr, i just regurgitated what you said with extra detail.
@user-jz7vp7kg1u
@user-jz7vp7kg1u 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the only other place besides the soccer championship and official government buildings where you see the flag are the homes or protests of right wing (extremist) nationalists.
@korozif4140
@korozif4140 2 жыл бұрын
Same for France
@shmonder5040
@shmonder5040 2 жыл бұрын
Some people don’t like being over expressive of the Australian flag because they believe it can be a symbol of white privilege.
@venicesgf
@venicesgf 2 жыл бұрын
kinda unfortunate
@michaelmarrinan9981
@michaelmarrinan9981 3 жыл бұрын
I think my issues with new wave lgbt flags can be demonstrated with the irish flag. The green represents catholics, the orange protestants and the white is peace between them, as an irish athiest i still feel this flag represents me. If they decided to add a purple stripe to represent irish muslims and a red one for irish budhists, then id start to wonder if im really being represented
@ashy113
@ashy113 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The lgbt has separate pride flags for different gender identities and sexualities
@dieucondorimperial2509
@dieucondorimperial2509 2 жыл бұрын
There is 2 key differences : first, there is a supreme authority over the flag of Ireland, the Irish government, whereas there is no "LGBT+ Assembly". Secondly, the nature of this group. The purpose of the lgbt community is to be open and welcoming to everyone who doesn’t fit in the cisgenre hetero majority, so thematically, it could make sense to make it evolve; also, the definition of what is and what isn’t lgbt sometimes isn’t clear, and the labels evolve rapidly, so putting it on the flag can make sense.
@SQUIZZLER24
@SQUIZZLER24 2 жыл бұрын
I never actually knew that about the Irish flag, that’s really interesting. Thanks!
@thecatdragon589
@thecatdragon589 2 жыл бұрын
@@dieucondorimperial2509 exactly this, thank you -lgbtq person
@NYKevin100
@NYKevin100 2 жыл бұрын
@@dieucondorimperial2509 The problem is, when you add more symbols, you actually exclude people. The progress flag has no representation for asexuals, intersex people, non-binary people (unless you want to put them under the trans umbrella), polyamorous folks, etc. Making matters worse, at times asexuals have been excluded from LGBTQ+ spaces or had their participation in the movement called into question, and so the progress flag comes across as more of the same, even if that was not the intent. The rainbow flag never had that problem, because it was intended to have broad, general significance, rather than trying to exhaustively recognize each individual subgroup with separate colors or symbols.
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
3:27 I think the Countryball usage is fine. The art style demands some kind of visual symbol for a country and how the symbol was treated back then or even if it's just associated with the country in modern times is not that important for that particular usage.
@pepeokatze
@pepeokatze 3 жыл бұрын
@@c_mark5622 you mean your mom ?
@lindholmaren
@lindholmaren 3 жыл бұрын
@@c_mark5622 no u
@jackreid2664
@jackreid2664 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, without using flags they just couldn't cover certain things.
@lindholmaren
@lindholmaren 3 жыл бұрын
@@c_mark5622 chu mean?
@alexshi1679
@alexshi1679 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with flags and Countryballs is that Countryballs are just balls with flags on them. There needs to be some sort of distinguishing flag for each ball, otherwise, no one can tell which country it is. So even if there weren't national flags for older countries, something needs to be added.
@SanGrampsMapping
@SanGrampsMapping 3 жыл бұрын
@Longhorn XII True, Israel is a Cube, Kazakhstan is a brick, an hypothetic 4th German Reich is a rectangle, Chile is sometimes represented like some kind of worm, Singapore and Bermuda are triangles and so on
@BLUEBoyPlayzPH
@BLUEBoyPlayzPH 3 жыл бұрын
@@SanGrampsMapping Especially Nepal or Ohio ( i know, Ohio is a state ) they keep the flag design but add teeth to em
@jayy17783
@jayy17783 3 жыл бұрын
@Longhorn XII and some are people. *cough* hetalia *cough*
@NoName-ig2jb
@NoName-ig2jb 3 жыл бұрын
@@SanGrampsMapping Isn’t the German Empire (2nd reich) a rectangle already?
@SanGrampsMapping
@SanGrampsMapping 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-ig2jb Well, I´ve read in the countryball wiki that it was only for a 4th Reich
@lucasduque8289
@lucasduque8289 3 жыл бұрын
One of my pet peeves with flags is how people think that every colour, every pattern, every stripe everything in any flag is meant to represent something and if it does, they always have the same meaning.
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 3 жыл бұрын
(8:00) Very good point. As a European/Swede myself; looking at USA; they're obsessed with their flag. It appears everywhere. Here in Europe, you'll mostly only see the flag on official buildings, and mostly used only on national flag days. - It's also interesting seeing US media, where the flag is also used to fill out some blank space or background. The elements of stripes and stars with red white and blue colours are also often a theme. So with one random photo or screencap from USA, and you're likely be able to see a random flag.
@Humanophage
@Humanophage 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think flags might be used more prominently in larger countries? They need this official identity to avoid secession and discourage regional identity. The EU is using the EU flag pretty aggressively.
@Kokorisu
@Kokorisu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Humanophage National flags in Europe have a distinct political intention when their use is pushed. It's mostly coming from their appropriation from the farther right wing nationalist angle, and it drives anyone left of these ideologies (even when in the right politically) to shy away from the idea of comfortably using the flag.
@traurigekatze
@traurigekatze 2 жыл бұрын
like almost every neighborhood has at least one US flag
@Blue_Star_Child
@Blue_Star_Child 2 жыл бұрын
I would not use the word obsessed. It's patriotic yes but it it's also used as a just a pattern decoration on items from clothes to clocks like polka dots. Plus a big flag over businesses makes them noticable in cities where signs can only be so high. I see it more like a mascot type thing. We also use flags to signal shared sorrow over death. You don't know how many times I've seen a flag half mast and googled to see what tragedy/politician/national treasure died. Flying a flag of any sort here is very popular. Not just our flag. From state flags to the LGBTQ one to one supporting breast cancer awareness. Flags are not a political thing here. They are an outward statement what we like. One my flagpole I have an American one, a gay pride one and I've been thinking about getting some to hang for different months to honer native Americans and such.
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 2 жыл бұрын
Thats because in the US, the flag is used litterally for the Aesthetic. Theres no other reason. Stop overthinking it. It looks sick. Im canadian, and I put the US flag on my minecraft base just cus it looks cooler in minecraft since u cant make a maple leaf with minecraft banners. Also thats why Americans in video games would have canadian skins aswell, cus the maple leaf looks sick if its blacked out and put on a tank or a gun. Thats litterally it. Like idk why yall overthink it so much.
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 3 жыл бұрын
Rome had a "flag", but it wasn't used like we do nowadays. Legion standards were basically the psuedo flag that most citizens held in high regards. That's why the eagle is most associated with Rome for it being a famous/common standard of legions
@sig_pagot
@sig_pagot 3 жыл бұрын
Standards aren't really flags tho, are they? Plus, any standard of any Roman legion wasn't the flag of Rome more than a US military flag is the flag of the USA. In any case, the point that JJ is trying to adress, i think, is that yes, you can find a symbolic piece of coloured cloth in almost any ancient culture, but associating it with the modern idea of a flag isn't an accurate mental image of the past
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
@@briandeweyforbes It obviously did not, as the Romans did not have widespread access to lightweight colored cloth and a capacity to mass-produce patterned cloth the way we do today. Even having colored clothes made of soft material in those days was considered a real sign of wealth. Any flag-like things present in Roman society would have been quite rare and expensive items, owned by and for the elite. So if they were venerated, it would have been because they were something impressively rare and highly ceremonial, which is not analogous to flag culture anywhere today.
@akshat.jaiswal
@akshat.jaiswal 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJMcCullough yeah more like an national emblem
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 3 жыл бұрын
@@sig_pagot Standards pretty much are flags for the ancient world. They are widespread through units across the land, represent their nation's values, and eventually were the predecessors/basis of modern flags. They were also far cheaper and durable to produce than a flags. In the case of certain nations, such as Lithuania, the standard and coat of arms essentially was the flag just now with a colored background.
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 3 жыл бұрын
It was the solid golden statue of an Eagle, messanger of Jupiter, which was considered the Sacred part of the standard. The bit of cloth below it with the state motto, SPQR (Senatus Populusque Romanum-“The Senate and People of Rome”) was just a bit of cloth and reminder to the Legion as to who they served as far as the Romans were concerned. And the Golden Eagle of the legion was not used in civilian life: too sacred, and legions generally weren’t even allowed within Rome’s official city limits, so neither would their eagle. The Eagle really was revered tho, as it symbolized Jupiter’s favoritism towards Rome, and desecration of it could not be tolerated. A Legion who lost its Eagle would be decimated-every ‘tent group’ or squad of 8 soldiers (people who did basically everything together, and technically considered a ‘decade’ because of their 2 slaves) would draw lots, and the person who drew the short straw would be required to be beaten to death by the other 7 members of their squad with clubs while their superiors supervised, and if someone was caught having STOLEN the eagle, that now-desecrated idol would be melted down and poured down the offender’s THROAT...and the legion would be decimated for letting it happen.
@flouin12
@flouin12 3 жыл бұрын
Despite how liberally the Americans use their flag, they seem surprised when they discover that Scandinavians use flags as birthday and Christmas decorations. Meanwhile, the Scandinavians pretty much only use flags for those occasions.
@anniebell6846
@anniebell6846 2 жыл бұрын
I used to use the flag toothpicks as toothpicks hopefully that’s not a no no
@skarredcat
@skarredcat 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, where I’d imagine that comes from is the idea of the flag representing both the people of the US and the US as a state. You tend to see the American flag in public contexts (on the news, on businesses or government buildings, out front of people’s houses, on clothing, etc), in that it is meant to be widely seen and represent a celebration or support of the US in general. Having the flag used for something that was a much more personal and private context (like celebrating a specific person’s birthday) would come across as odd since the event wouldn’t be focused on the government or the people of the US in a general sense, but instead on only a single person (unless the person had some connection to the government, like being a politician or in the military). However like JJ pointed out, each nation or group of people has their own ideas on appropriate flag usage, and it would be interesting to hear about the reasoning behind Scandinavian flag traditions
@philip2205
@philip2205 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you're from Scandinavia. However, I'm from Sweden and the only memorable case of "public" (non governmental) use of the flag is on busses. I don't think I've ever seen someone use it as Christmas or birthday decorations.
@flouin12
@flouin12 2 жыл бұрын
@@philip2205 Yeah I am from Scandinavia. Agree about the buses. But otherwise - are you kidding? So many birthday decorations in shops in Sweden have flags on them. And in Denmark, it's the done thing to have flags at a person's desk/dinner table for their birthday. I've also definitely seen people in Sweden decorate their Christmas trees with flags.
@campbell9825
@campbell9825 2 жыл бұрын
@@skarredcat our national anthem is literally about the flag, it's definitely a kind of umbrella symbol for everything American more so than a lot of countries
@JamesPawson
@JamesPawson 3 жыл бұрын
I like point #3. I remember I told a British friend I would hang a Union Jack out my window to help him find my residence room. When he got there he gave me this long, tedious lecture about how I shouldn't wave his flag around because it's a sign of imperialism, racism, colonialism, etc. Funny, I am the brown Canadian being lectured by a white Brit about that.
@britainsfinest9541
@britainsfinest9541 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he doesn't understand that the flag doesn't mean any of that
@tadesubaru1383
@tadesubaru1383 3 жыл бұрын
As a Spaniard with German friends.... Yeah, no flags for us. Please. Unless it's football. But as a basque person as well... The ikurriña (basque flag) is very important to me because of its history and the oppression we went through during the dictatorship
@Rafael_Peixoto
@Rafael_Peixoto Жыл бұрын
I understand you guys, recently the Brazil flag has been taken as a symbol of the latest president (I'm not gonna get into specifics, but he wasn't a really nice person nor a very competent ruler for this time period) We use our flag proudly in the soccer fields, but if you put it in your car or in your house, you are basically saying "I'm a right wing extremist who thinks we should turn Brazil into a dictatorship led by Bolsonaro" ... Also he turned the celebration of 200 years of independence into a political campaign for himself 😞... Man I'm so glad he wasn't reelected
@organ.2729
@organ.2729 3 жыл бұрын
I find a lot of the country ball people realize how anachronistic there being and make fun of it to an extent, a lot of flags are the made up on the spot to fill a certain role or make a character and nobody takes it too seriously. For example Poland is always drawn upsidedown since in the beginning of the webcomics you would find some people not drawing Poland right and it just stuck. It's become a staple of countryballs and now any ball associated with Poland must be drawn upsidedown. I've even seen these little ironic comics of 2 different interpretations of a historical balls depictions are fighting over which anachronism is right.
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 3 жыл бұрын
This, exactly this.
@candy-ass4915
@candy-ass4915 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Also the fact that Poland and Indonesia are sometimes depicted together, but they're both reversed due to their flags... It's never meant to be serious.
@eddie-roo
@eddie-roo 2 жыл бұрын
Now Monaco, Indonesia and Poland have the same country ball
@claudia-uy5gk
@claudia-uy5gk 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddie-roo yeah why tho
@Maxatal
@Maxatal 2 жыл бұрын
Is this why Israel is square in country balls? It’s always confused me
@karaliusking6833
@karaliusking6833 3 жыл бұрын
He said something about Lithuania 🇱🇹, my day is now good
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even Lithuanian, and *I'm* glad.
@DUWANGlai_kangyi
@DUWANGlai_kangyi 3 жыл бұрын
Lithuania finally exists now.
@GEO_ANIMATOR
@GEO_ANIMATOR 3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm good that your good
@karaliusking6833
@karaliusking6833 3 жыл бұрын
@@GEO_ANIMATOR now I’m great bc your good
@GEO_ANIMATOR
@GEO_ANIMATOR 3 жыл бұрын
@@karaliusking6833 now I feel amazing cuz your great
@12...
@12... 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like adding colors and symbols to the rainbow flag is a dangerous trend, because then if someone chooses to use the original flag, that might be interpreted as them intentionally excluding some groups
@alyssah5702
@alyssah5702 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from alaska, and our state flag is probably one of my favorite flags personally (slightly bias) - I think it does a really amazing job of representing all Alaskans. It’s beautiful in its simplicity, with just the Big Dipper constellation on a navy background. The North Star is also included, which connects such a diverse and large state so easily (because we can all see the North Star, no matter where in the state - it’s only visible in the northern hemisphere, and we are the most northern state). Also, the flag was designed through a Children’s art contest, and the winner was Benny Benson, a twelve(ish?) native boy who came up with the design, which makes it feel very inclusive to me and very representative of our indigenous people :)
@thelionsmane3032
@thelionsmane3032 3 жыл бұрын
I get annoyed with the attitude of the online flag fandom, people get so pretentious with the “rules for good flag design” or whatever that it’s just insufferable.
@xander1052
@xander1052 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, even though good flag bad flag is a list of guidelines and nothing more, flag fandom takes them to be a written law of flag design
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын
Are you annoyed when someone says that anything is good compared to an alternative? In my opinion, the expression “it’s all good” is lazy and amounts to an argument for mediocrity everywhere. What a dull world that would be!
@biji8427
@biji8427 3 жыл бұрын
The mustcahe return was an omen for the return of dedicated flag videos
@bertaroo
@bertaroo 3 жыл бұрын
Yay moustache
@logansjunnk
@logansjunnk 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your talking about hitłer
@elijahculper5522
@elijahculper5522 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of the ‘stache
@creativeusername2202
@creativeusername2202 2 жыл бұрын
3:53 Ireland is a perfect example. When I think of Good ole Erin‘s isle, I don’t picture green, white, and orange columns, I think of that pretty, timeless, cultural harp.
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea Жыл бұрын
I think of a shamrock.
@colinmunro3158
@colinmunro3158 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone acknowledging the existence of Axis & Allies. It's a great board game if you have the time to play it, and the patience to learn its mechanics.
@traurigekatze
@traurigekatze 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I haven't played it before but it does seem like a pretty fun game
@colinmunro3158
@colinmunro3158 2 жыл бұрын
@@traurigekatze the game is fun, but it takes a really long time to set up, and a game can take multiple days to complete.
@cryptidclaw1833
@cryptidclaw1833 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Yiddish flag controversy on Duolingo. On Duolingo they need a flag for every language they put up, but Yiddish is not a language exclusively spoken in one country, so there was quite a bit of confusion/controversy over what exactly to put it as. They ended with this black and white flag with a menorah on it, personally I'd never seen this flag and I assume most Jewish people/Yiddish speakers hadn't either, but it was a solution I suppose.
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
Ohh that's a good one for my flag mysteries video.
@xway2
@xway2 3 жыл бұрын
The entire concept of using a national flag to represent a language is just inherently problematic. Like, the two most popular laguages on there are English and Spanish, which already present problems in what flag to choose, so that should already clue you in to the fact that there isn't a 1:1 correspondence between languages and countries.
@joaquinleon4114
@joaquinleon4114 3 жыл бұрын
@@xway2 yeah but there’s a clear origin for both, England and Spain
@samanteater
@samanteater 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaquinleon4114 True but most people are probably learning them to talk to Americans and Mexicans.
@xway2
@xway2 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaquinleon4114 Yet the flag they picked in the end for English is the American one. And if I'm not going insane they used to have the Mexican flag for Spanish but they've now changed it to the Spanish one. Which then creates a slight issue for the Catalan course (from Spanish), which is of course also a language native to Spain (but they use the historical Aragonese standard for that, which makes sense I suppose). See what I'm getting at?
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 3 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the flag of the colorblind community which will simply be a white standard with a bunch of RGB codes strategically placed in appropriate areas. And the flag for the completely blind community that has braille all over it.
@nuclearbomb9483
@nuclearbomb9483 2 жыл бұрын
The blind community would have the "no hdmi signal" screen
@TinNguyen-rl2xr
@TinNguyen-rl2xr 2 жыл бұрын
What about the blind deaf tasteless touchless mutes with no smell or balance
@manifestman132
@manifestman132 2 жыл бұрын
The Blind community is pretty divided and I don’t think they would Identify with a single flag.
@eddie-roo
@eddie-roo 2 жыл бұрын
@@TinNguyen-rl2xr crumpled paper
@eddie-roo
@eddie-roo 2 жыл бұрын
@@manifestman132 or any at all, since flags are a visual medium and blind folk are characterized for their lack of vision.
@kidlitfanful
@kidlitfanful 2 жыл бұрын
The most common question I got aw a tour guide in San Francisco was "how long until we get to the Bridge?" #2 was "Is it a holiday? Why so many flags?" I hadn't realized that just flying national flags outside public building isn't a worldwide phenomenon.
@dhayes5143
@dhayes5143 2 жыл бұрын
As an Irish person, I've always felt more power and meaning in the symbols of the harp (including the old flag with a harp) and the shamrock as symbols of Irish identity. The tricolour feels somehow artificial, not connected to the long rich history of this island it its peoples, and a thing waved mostly at soccer matches (which just happened to a world I didn't grow up in), not our native sports.
@insertaliashere1379
@insertaliashere1379 3 жыл бұрын
List of JJ's obsessions at the beginning, for those who couldn't read it: 1. Annexation 2. Jimmy John's 3. Flags 4. Nintendo 5. Middle Class 6. Being Gay 7. Republicanism 8. Stephen Harper 9. Baby Books 10: Noodles 11: Pepsipus 12: Brains in Jars. I think we can all relate.
@zorbaz3940
@zorbaz3940 3 жыл бұрын
No
@TlalocTemporal
@TlalocTemporal 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of 8, but most of the rest I can get behind
@zorbaz3940
@zorbaz3940 3 жыл бұрын
@@TlalocTemporal I don't like number 6
@elijahculper5522
@elijahculper5522 3 жыл бұрын
Boy do I Stan jj.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 жыл бұрын
Hum being obsessed with Republicanism is a big plus in my book...
@2ymn2mn
@2ymn2mn 3 жыл бұрын
Lol he’s right. I’m an American immigrant and I have both flags hanging in my room. And Yeah when I look at them I do feel pride in being an American 🇺🇸 with my roots from Sudan 🇸🇩 . It’s weird how a piece of cloth can mean so much to me but it does
@abbode336
@abbode336 3 жыл бұрын
ما عرفتك يا زول
@nelsonricardo3729
@nelsonricardo3729 3 жыл бұрын
Did you catch today's Geography Now episode on Sudan? It's a much cooler country than I thought.
@2ymn2mn
@2ymn2mn 3 жыл бұрын
@@nelsonricardo3729 haha I was waiting for that episode for three years and it was Awesome! 😅 they really did it justice . I hope you enjoyed it
@jake3736
@jake3736 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you man, I lived in the US during my teenage years and I take a lot of pride in both my home nation US' flag. It's weird how you can get so attached to something but deep down I really feel like it reminds us of our lives and the path we forged for ourselves, or atleast that is the case for me anyways. JJ does a great job in this video explaining why flags hold so much significance for some people.
@valkyrie941
@valkyrie941 3 жыл бұрын
As a brit we feel the same pride but not with flags
@memeboi6017
@memeboi6017 Жыл бұрын
3:28 Correction, most of the time, in the lack of an official flag, the standard polandball rule is to substitute a seal or symbol for the flag (Also often used are battle standards), As an example, the Ming dynasty is usual represented with the Chinese character for Ming (明) and that is usually put on to the standard yellow 1ball that represents prehistoric or indigenous flagless populations of Paleosiberian, Altaic, Sino-Tibetan, Tai-Kadai, and Dené-Yeniseian people.
@Melmel_1011
@Melmel_1011 2 жыл бұрын
I'm obsessed with all of the game sound effects that are used on all the videos. they make me so happy and add a cute flair to the videos :)
@emkultra2349
@emkultra2349 3 жыл бұрын
tangentially related "flags are not the necessarily the best symbol in-and-of-itself": my biggest flag hot take is that I am A-Ok with seals on flags. I think the 'minimalist school of flag design rules has lead to a lot of samey flags. great seals on a beautiful colored field can look pretty good
@aerialpunk
@aerialpunk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like how many average people can tell apart all the flags with 3 stripes of red, white, and blue on them? Lol. Also, I remember being a kid (probably over 25 years ago now) and having an assignment to make a flag from a country where I have ethnic heritage. I chose Poland, and agonized for hours over making that eagle that used to be in the middle of it. Now it's just a red stripe and a white stripe. It's not nearly as cool or distinctive.
@adrieltinghenghui6205
@adrieltinghenghui6205 2 жыл бұрын
@@aerialpunk Ever seen the Malaysian flag? Same-y problem
@ferretman6790
@ferretman6790 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, unlike most people, I like the US State flags.
@risannd
@risannd 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it's not 'seal over bedsheet' flags
@maddie9602
@maddie9602 2 жыл бұрын
I personally like a compromise. I like flag designs that are instantly recognizable from a distance. Some of my favorites are the American, Canadian, British, and Japanese flags for having strong, instantly-recognizable designs. Meanwhile, tricolors are boring and generic, especially because so many countries literally just copy the French colors of red, white, and blue. The issue with seals, though, is that even if they're unique up-close, from a distance the details are lost and you just get a circle on a solid-color banner.
@crypticcorgi8280
@crypticcorgi8280 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I liked about the Pride flag was the simplicity of it's all inclusiveness. The colors do have their official meanings. But the overarching theme was that the metaphorical spectrum of humanity being represented as part of the same fabric. At worst, it almost feels exclusionary to single out particular people from that spectrum. At best, they clutter up the flag to represent what was always part of it.
@shaniamibar5459
@shaniamibar5459 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't have said it better
@rubenmendonca4530
@rubenmendonca4530 2 жыл бұрын
Here we go
@NaughtyNovaroo69
@NaughtyNovaroo69 2 жыл бұрын
For Me personally as someome form the LGBTQ community. I wish instead or the triangle and the gradient and the umbrella they keep it how it is, I'm not saying races are apart of the LGBTQ but being different skin colours should have it's own pride flag for darker skin at the bottom and lighter skin at the top to talk about how light travels or whateber Also I feel like the umbrella will make homophobes talk about how We spread HIV and STDs and how sex workers don't use safe sex and condoms and I feel like personally We should make sex in general a seperate pride flag cause the pride flag is to do with sexuality and not just ohhhhh gays Fuck all the time and don't do anything else kind of thing Plus I rather design the pride flag as a rainbow style instead of a rectangle to show how equal but not straight design and maybe have 6 skin coloured strips hanging onto the rainbow like how cheer leaders have 6 ribbons on each hair style or whatever and under there there's a countries flag and a green ribbon for mental health, showing how a country has both hospitals ans therapy hospitals to treat physical and mental trauma I'm shit at describing and understanding and English so don't attack Me because something triggered you, also thid is My own opinion, I can't send a pic to exsplain what I'm explaining but just try use your imagination
@jayskestrel8130
@jayskestrel8130 2 жыл бұрын
@@NaughtyNovaroo69 only thing I had an issue with you bringing up was the race thing. I don’t know if you made a mistake, but the normal rainbow flag should cover all races, it shouldn’t be altered because “oh this person is a different race, have this darker rainbow flag. Oh you have a lighter skin color, take this pastel rainbow pride flag” That just comes off as racist. Just the normal rainbow flag does it’s job. I agree with all your other points. A flag should be a sort of umbrella symbol that covers all people that identify with that flag.
@Clown_the_Clown
@Clown_the_Clown 2 жыл бұрын
The "pride" flag is a rainbow flag, which people continue to wrongly attribute to the LGB community. Rainbows belong to everyone, and are most often associated with children. If the LGB community wants their own flag, they should design one.
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 3 жыл бұрын
(4:00) Sweden can be represented by three crowns; two side by side and one below in centre. This symbol is placed on the top of the Stockholm city hall; it's the main symbol on the national hockey team. - Since Windows refuse to add flags for some reason (probably because it needs compatibility with black and white emojis), they could add the three crowns as the symbol for Sweden as a fallback, since it's still distinct in black-and-white.
@lhaviland8602
@lhaviland8602 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't like the new Mississippi flag, it's too generic" Dude, have you _seen_ the state of U.S. flag designs?
@justsomeoneelse5942
@justsomeoneelse5942 2 жыл бұрын
Especially… you know… considering the old flag…
@dannypipewrench533
@dannypipewrench533 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Wisconsin flag. Two guys, I think drinking beer, out in a farm field, with a cow. Yep, sounds like Wisconsin.
@HopelessFuture
@HopelessFuture 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a giant Canadian flag hanging on the front of Ottawa City Hall. When my Korean and Japanese friends saw it, they both commented on how you wouldn’t see that kind of thing in their own countries unless it’s for hyper nationalistic reasons. They both liked the Canadian flag being there and found it amusingly Canadian.
@DOCTORKHANblog
@DOCTORKHANblog 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand Japan but Korea?
@LjuboCupic1912
@LjuboCupic1912 3 жыл бұрын
@@DOCTORKHANblog Korea also has a history of right-wing nationalism that persists in politics to this day.
@MetalHeart8787
@MetalHeart8787 3 жыл бұрын
yeah too many dumb people worrying & Talking about "Nationalism" I did a video on that topic. im an American & I have many Flags including Canada, & Japan.
@HopelessFuture
@HopelessFuture 3 жыл бұрын
@beginning of the end It's not so much the number of flags, bur rather that one HUGE flag covering the front of the building would give a sense of unease in their own countries.
@primary2630
@primary2630 3 жыл бұрын
heheheh big leaf
@ahmeds8506
@ahmeds8506 3 жыл бұрын
As a flag “fetishist” myself, I can’t but say this is such an insightful take. Well argued.
@alexthegremlin2521
@alexthegremlin2521 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard a few different opinions on the progress pride flag and I think people should use whichever flag they prefer. The rainbow pride flag and the progress pride flag both represent the same community, the progress one just puts emphasis on the black and trans parts of the community. I personally think the progress pride flag has a better design, although the one shown in this video is much more cluttered then most other versions of the progress pride flag. But that doesn't mean the other one is incorrect or exclusionary. The progress pride flag isn't suggesting that black and trans people are separate from the rest of the community, and the rainbow flag isn't excluding the black and trans parts of the LGBTQ community.
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest flag design I think is of the EU. It was a flag that symbolized every EU member country without being too cluttered or making one appear better than the other. I just wish that the LGBTQ+ community also consider this design philosophy because really it is not a visually pleasing design and frankly I think, is an insult to the the beautiful people that are part of that community.
@invictidomini6846
@invictidomini6846 3 жыл бұрын
09:17 that’s definitely a thing in Sweden if you were seen weaving the Swedish flag singing the anthem and saying how much you love Sweden most people would think you’re a nationalist and stay away from you but if you would do this while watching football or during the Euros nobody should think you are weird and just think you are another football fan
@lawden210
@lawden210 3 жыл бұрын
This might be a weird question, but; what if you hang a picture of the swedish monarch? How would people see you?(just curious)
@ilgattoparddo
@ilgattoparddo 3 жыл бұрын
To parade your country flag and be ostracized like a criminal seems pretty fucked up to me.
@Smygegrabben
@Smygegrabben 3 жыл бұрын
​@@lawden210 The only people I've ever met who did were either a) elderly people who grew up with parents that instilled them with a respect for the monarchy that still held political power within their lifetime or b) people who treats said picture as an ironic joke (and all of the ones I've met had an entire small room or alcove decorated with monarchical memorabilia). So to me it'd just come of as mildly kitschy, and certainly less of a concern than people who deck their home with an excessive amount of flags.
@canles
@canles 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same in Finland too. Excessive use of the flag is only for sports events. Only people that use the flag outside of some patriotic holiday here is a nationalist and they are usually trying to fearmonger about something.
@Simlan12345
@Simlan12345 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, maybe? But that's only for waving the flag with your hand, on flagpoles it's a different story, Swedish flags or variants of it on flagpoles is extremely common here, just go to the nearest villa suburb, you'll see a flag in no time.
@prussia2899
@prussia2899 3 жыл бұрын
Many of these criticisms could also apply to national anthems imo. I've seen countless videos labeling songs popular at that time to be the anthem. For example several videos seem to claim that Hail Columbia was the anthem of the USA before the current anthem we all know. Of course this is not true as the USA had no anthem until the 1930's. National anthems themselves are, like flags, a recent development.
@moritzhapperger5807
@moritzhapperger5807 3 жыл бұрын
I find this especially interesting when you look at the US's anthem and their use, like you hear it at every sports game and it's extremely widely used. But when you watch an international soccer game, while the other country's fans sing their anthem with their whole heart, the US players stay pretty much silent, as do the fans.
@Void_Wars
@Void_Wars 3 жыл бұрын
Ew a nazi
@Shifty_
@Shifty_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Void_Wars I think he’s a monarchist, actually
@prussia2899
@prussia2899 3 жыл бұрын
I think you have a poor understanding of what a Nazi is. I'm not much of a monarchist either, I just have parents from Kaliningrad, and am possibly slightly related to German monarchy
@angrypepe7615
@angrypepe7615 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shifty_ hey, they're very clearly monarchist, which is separate from the Nazi's. They're still cringe, but not the same level of cringe as neo-nazis
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 2 жыл бұрын
I think what makes it different at sports events is that the flag represents your *team*. Using it excessively outside of that context, holidays or other celebrations is seen as making a statement. Even outside of former fascist dictatorships, extreme nationalism is viewed with suspicion by a lot of Europeans, especially in the north and west.
@muddashucka9743
@muddashucka9743 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, that is probably because of the former fascist dictatorships.
@RockAndStoner445
@RockAndStoner445 3 жыл бұрын
If there were dinosaurs on flags I would like them
@JackRackam
@JackRackam 3 жыл бұрын
I also think the versions of the pride flag with more than just the rainbow look very busy, and the rainbow itself is as good of an all-inclusive symbol as you can get, although I heard an argument that made me rethink my opinion of the flag with the overlapping triangle being bad design. Basically the idea was that with the increased popularity of pride and the pride flag, it was starting to be used by people who were supportive of, say, same-sex marriage, but still kind of hostile towards other LGBT+ people, e.g. terfs. So since you couldn't assume the intention of the person using the flag to support the entire community, the flag wasn't totally doing its job. Thus the extra elements were added so it would be an explicitly clear show of support to everyone LGBT+ even if it was aesthetically cluttered. But I don't think the basic rainbow flag is going away, at least I hope not
@ridhosamudro2199
@ridhosamudro2199 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's really alienating when you need paragraphs explaining just the flag
@anythinggoesguy
@anythinggoesguy 3 жыл бұрын
The pride flag has already gone through revisions. For example, the original had pink but was dropped due to availability. It also reduced to 6 colors for dispay purposes. There also have been anti-gay activists trying to "reclaim" the rainbow flag (scare quotes because they assumed LGBT+ folks were stealing the rainbow symbolism from the story of Noah's ark) and would wear the rainbow colors while espousing anti-gay rhetoric. So I do not find the terf argument very persuasive when this has happened before and the flag withstood the test of time.
@Baconcatboy
@Baconcatboy 3 жыл бұрын
Eh the military flag is better
@JontyLevine
@JontyLevine 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree almost entirely with your second point. Because if the wrong kinds of people are using your symbol, that is an excuse for you to use it MORE, not less. In the UK we have, for the last few decades, had to work hard to stop our flag from being associated with neo-nazi skinhead groups. Can you imagine what would happen if the normal patriotic Brits had given up that fight and used an entirely new or modified flag to represent ourselves - simply to prove that _we are not those people?_ Only ever advocate for an alternative design to represent the fairer, more inclusive version of your community if you intend for that change to be permanent, and are prepared to discard the original design. This approach will only lead the original to become a symbol of what your community is not. If you say "the original rainbow flag is used by terfs and exclusionists" then it only becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Besides, corporates have latched onto the triangle pride flag much more quickly. The central station in my city for instance currently has two of these abominations, each with the logo of the train company in big white letters across the middle. Not to mention the hundreds of corporates who already use it on their social media for Pride Month.
@JontyLevine
@JontyLevine 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnonymousGentooman The equivalent of that would be to use the separate LGBT rainbow 🏳️‍🌈 and trans 🏳️‍⚧️ flags. No need to combine them both into a single design since the former is already inclusive of the latter. It would be like having a flag to mean “USA but inclusive of Texas!” and every state having to fly it.
@treloving
@treloving 3 жыл бұрын
As a real coin-lover, I think the discussion about other symbols/shorthand for countries outside of flags is interesting. Predecimal Australian pennies had a kangaroo on them, pre-Euro German marks had the Imperial eagle on them and French francs had the Liberty cap on them. I think even current Egyptian pounds have the Sphinx on them. Coins (particularly IMO older coins) often show a country’s own cultural items and history - which I enjoy, and miss a bit with modern Euros.
@sig_pagot
@sig_pagot 3 жыл бұрын
Well euro coins let countries put whatever they want on one side. I think the problem is that some eurozone countries 1) only one design for every denomination 2) use boring designs. Not to brag, but the Italian euros have: the colusseum, other 2 iconic buildings, the paintingof Venus by Botticelli, 2 iconic statues, the vitruvian man and Dante Alighieri. If these are not good Italian symbols, I don't know what is. Not to mention the commemorative 2 euro coins!
@treloving
@treloving 3 жыл бұрын
@@sig_pagot Yes and amen! They can definitely be excellent. I’m actually in the UK so usually only see Irish and German Euros for some reason - I look forward to seeing the Italian ones now!
@autumn64fromdeltarunechapter3
@autumn64fromdeltarunechapter3 3 жыл бұрын
Hey cool, another coin collector
@evilemuempire9550
@evilemuempire9550 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta brag about our Canadian coins a bit, all but one of our standard coins have recognizable Canadian animals on them (Beaver, Caribou, Loon, and Polar Bear), and the penny had the maple leaf on it, all easily identifiable as Canadian symobols. The only one I have a problem with is the dime, which has The Bluenose on it, something most foreigners and I imagine most Canadians don’t really know/identify with
@sig_pagot
@sig_pagot 3 жыл бұрын
@@evilemuempire9550 animals on coins are always a good choice 👌
@samuelgriffin1955
@samuelgriffin1955 3 жыл бұрын
The Union Jack was designed with the intention of representing the constituent nations of the uk. With the omission of Wales this recently became an issue as Boris Johnson decided he wants a Union Jack outside of government buildings including Cardiff council, which people obviously objected to since it’s a flag we’re not represented on. So, although this is a literal view of the flag, being the only unrepresented nation out of the 4 is annoying when the government wants them to be shown in Wales
@SuperWiggler
@SuperWiggler 2 жыл бұрын
Wales was annexed by England by Edward the First, so at the time the Union Flag was created it wasn't its own country.
@samuelgriffin1955
@samuelgriffin1955 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperWiggler I know that, but even after recognised as separate now Wales is still not represented, so the point stands
@miss_baphomet
@miss_baphomet 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like point 2 kinda explains point 1. sometimes clarity of information is more important than anachronism. I mean, high quality aerial maps are anachronistic to a lot of fantasy or historical games but they still appear because they're useful for conveying information.
@samanteater
@samanteater 3 жыл бұрын
One sticking point I have about flags is that modern designers treat the "five rules of flag design" or whatever they're called like a religion. They're decent guidelines, but if you're too strict with them everything ends up looking really samey and sanitized. Also are you still doing Flag Mysteries? Because there's one that's been bugging me for weeks and I'd love to email it to you.
@BinglesP
@BinglesP 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, especially the rule that there can only be a few colors. Of course most look better with fewer colors, but many have more than 3 and really look nice with them.
@traurigekatze
@traurigekatze 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I can see why some people don't like coat of arms and all but I feel they give a unique feel however I would like if coat of arms are added to be the center point of the flag
@j.s.7335
@j.s.7335 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, South Africa and the US state of Maryland have two of the best flags in the world, and they are both major rule breakers.
@bandilenzimande5253
@bandilenzimande5253 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.s.7335 *flattered South African has joined the chat*😌
@cringe7391
@cringe7391 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.s.7335 South Africas flag is great but I just got eye cancer from looking at Maryland
@harryjfp4480
@harryjfp4480 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the whole point of the "rainbow" demonstrating the vast spectrum of experience and identity? Adding all these specific asterisks not only means a designer disaster but somewhat detracts from the symbolism of the original I think.
@roccopiosaracino3681
@roccopiosaracino3681 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they included the trans colors, completely ignoring the fact that trans people were already represented in the "original" rainbow
@elijahculper5522
@elijahculper5522 3 жыл бұрын
As a gay man, I think I can say the rainbow flag is busy and gaudy enough as it is and the last thing we need is to put more stuff on it.
@YaBoiSneedMan
@YaBoiSneedMan 3 жыл бұрын
the problem with adding more is that they're gonna piss someone off eventually, no matter how hard they try, or eventually end up with a mess of color that looks nothing like the original
@Maxzes_
@Maxzes_ 3 жыл бұрын
Adding the different colors in the rainbow (you know the trans flag and the rainbow with those black and brown colors) IS going to exclude ALOT OF PEOPLE no matter the present or future people that are being offended
@AnotherDuck
@AnotherDuck 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maxzes_ It's funny that adding more colours makes it less inclusive.
@Michael-R
@Michael-R 2 жыл бұрын
I love your depth of analysis and thoughfulness here
@TheLegend2T
@TheLegend2T Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Ming Dynasty countryball looks like that because it’s actually a yellow billiard ball, just with the “1” replaced with the name Ming in Chinese. Ironically, billiard balls are used for peoples who specifically DON’T have flags. An example being the use of the 8-ball for Africans before colonization
@BagMonster
@BagMonster 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Honestly, if we all had national headdresses instead we'd all be a lot happier!
@sig_pagot
@sig_pagot 3 жыл бұрын
I would totally support designing new national headdresses for the countries that don't have one already
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 3 жыл бұрын
I would disagree. Flags are easy to produce, and more relatable to the populace than headdresses.
@BagMonster
@BagMonster 3 жыл бұрын
@@IkeOkerekeNews I agree. It's a reference to a joke from an earlier JJ video.
@sodinc
@sodinc 3 жыл бұрын
@@sig_pagot coming from a culture that has a number of national headdresses I'm surprised that not everyone has them
@sig_pagot
@sig_pagot 3 жыл бұрын
@@sodinc yeah I totally get it. Honestly, most of Europe, for example, could revive old traditional costumes and headdresses if there was interest in doing it. It's not that they don't exist, but they're not part of the iconography of our countries anymore (this doesn't always apply obviously). I don't know what was the traditional costumes of my region and I think 99% of the population doesn't know either.
@farhansiddiqui1280
@farhansiddiqui1280 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you try to literally represent diverse communities in a flag, you’re only going to end up with even less inclusivity, because then suddenly every other minor community will say, “what about us?”, thereby feeling even more ignored.
@lukasd.4389
@lukasd.4389 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why i think a symbol of inclusion, the rainbow or the flag of country that holds personal freedom in high regard, is way more meaningfulls then a group collection sheet. It celebrates the concept of acceptence no matter what situation it's used in
@Malryth
@Malryth 2 жыл бұрын
Born in 1968 I have vivid memories of my Grandfather flying the Flag of Ontario some days as well as the Union Jack (usually if there was a Royal event happening in Canada) and the Canadian flag on the flag pole at his home in Orangeville. Back then it was more a sign of pride and respect for him being an Irish immigrant who did well for himself in Canada.
@serenissimarespublicavenet3945
@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the "Canada has failed" video? I had just begun watching it when it was made private
@hisstatus
@hisstatus 3 жыл бұрын
Probably removed
@JSideFx
@JSideFx 3 жыл бұрын
Try checking again, I'm fairly sure i watched it a few days ago so it might have been put back up. Maybe there was a copyright he had to edit out or something
@EllaGP22
@EllaGP22 3 жыл бұрын
In Ireland, if someone flies the flag of the Republic of Ireland outside their house like in the US for example, it’s thought of as having ties with anti-unionist or IRA ideals, and flaunting these ideals is really frowned upon, and the same goes for the Union Jack, although not as common.
@caolangordon8167
@caolangordon8167 3 жыл бұрын
Only in the north of Ireland is this really the case
@nastysimon
@nastysimon 3 жыл бұрын
In Ireland, yes, the tricolour is somewhat associated with republican or nationalist political positions (these are not like the US use of those terms) and those who put a lot of effort into flying it are likely to be assumed to be such. It is far more the case in Northern Ireland, where both the tricolour and Union Jack are used as symbols to declare which side of the divide one sits on. I'd say that the Union Jack is much more prevalent there, but that is just my experience, and it and the oppression and aggressive hostility to people like me (being Irish) that it represents in this context is one reason I don't like to see the Union Jack in general. It's one reason why I would be very sensitive in general with symbols such as these, as they often represent far more than is understood by most people. That's why, whatever one personally thinks of Sir John A Macdonald (first Canadian PM and problematic figure re how he treated the indigenous peoples of Canada), recognising that his statue will often legitimately represent something very different to others is key. The Irish tricolour is actually intended to represent peace and harmony between the Irish Nationalists/Republicans (green) and British Unionists/Loyalists (orange) on the island of Ireland. Sadly this imagery is rarely what is felt by the Unionists, but that was its original intent and hopefully someday it will fulfil that, even if the island remains divided.
@neurolicia182
@neurolicia182 3 жыл бұрын
@@caolangordon8167 Tell that to Derry...
@dropit7694
@dropit7694 3 жыл бұрын
As other replies have stated only really the case in Northern Ireland and by city and town and region there
@caolangordon8167
@caolangordon8167 3 жыл бұрын
@@neurolicia182 Derry is in the north lol so yeah
@max2000warrior
@max2000warrior 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about countryballs, Kraut's documentaries are really good.
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
I will say NOTHING
@PrinceofMilk
@PrinceofMilk 3 жыл бұрын
Kraut is an amazing KZfaqr
@darioguerra3065
@darioguerra3065 3 жыл бұрын
Kraut is a far right lunatic
@NACHOXXX4
@NACHOXXX4 3 жыл бұрын
@@darioguerra3065 used to be*
@darioguerra3065
@darioguerra3065 3 жыл бұрын
@@NACHOXXX4 not really, he removed his old far right conspiracy videos and has tried to rebrand himself, watch his debate with vaush and others he is still crazy
@emobassist
@emobassist 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love it when I find a new KZfaqr that gives good informative content
@kyro-jaxxsonofkosmos23
@kyro-jaxxsonofkosmos23 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always finding content on this channel that has never crossed my mind. It's great.
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
"France is the country where we all live." -JJ, 2021
@wannabecriminalman
@wannabecriminalman 3 жыл бұрын
-Napoleon Bonaparte, 1812
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 3 жыл бұрын
Long live the Empire
@Dinnyeify
@Dinnyeify 3 жыл бұрын
wow I cant believe all 7 billion of us are in the same country
@waywardlaser
@waywardlaser 3 жыл бұрын
JJ: [enters flagspert mode] Me: [drops everything and watches]
@dewaldoosthuizen
@dewaldoosthuizen 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’ve followed your perspective throughout my journey becoming Canadian. Your hair is looking so good.
@juanlucas5649
@juanlucas5649 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed the "flag culture" in Spain
@Schoritzobandit
@Schoritzobandit 3 жыл бұрын
With regard to the different flag cultures: Here in Finland, there are 'flag days,' basically all manner of national holidays both minor and major, on which the flag is flown all over the place. Outside of these days, the flag is flown absolutely nowhere. I quite like it - as a foreigner living here, I'll think "oh, I wonder what day it is" when I see a bunch of Finnish flags flying. It also feels like the Finns can save up their patriotism and let it out in bursts on the flag days, which is nice. They also have those fun student caps, which people wear on Finnish Independence Day. My Finnish girlfriend, normally very far from a nationalist, will get positively belligerent and sing Finlandia while crying about imagery of Finnish forests.
@zulthyr1852
@zulthyr1852 3 жыл бұрын
In Indonesia, flags are mostly flown around our Independence Day (August 17)
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын
Not even at government buildings?
@jaguar_8344
@jaguar_8344 3 жыл бұрын
Same here in Australia. I can count the number of Australian flags I’ve seen in real life on one hand. It’s literally just school assemblies, Anzac Day, and maybe you might see one on the town hall.
@solared
@solared 3 жыл бұрын
@@GH-oi2jf well, obviously at government buildings such as the parliament and the president's "castle" as it's called. but no homes or businesses or schools or tax offices or anything fly flags here outside of the liputuspäivä
@rickpervez322
@rickpervez322 3 жыл бұрын
Huh interesting, here flag culture allows for full time flying of the flag at almost all times, but it is only flown by Government and educational institutions afair (cut me some slack I've been stuck at home for like a year and a half at this point).
@hriday1341
@hriday1341 3 жыл бұрын
Indian flags can be used by people but there are various rules ,for eg. 1. No one can write on the flag 2. Flag should only be displayed from sunrise to sunset 3. If you want to dispose the flag,you can only bury or burn the flag that too with respect.
@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385
@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually the same standards for the US and Ol' Glory. And if a flag ever touches the ground, it's to be ceremonially burned
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
@@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 There's all sorts of ways we use the flag despite the flag code, that are completely normalized, and are part of manufactured products. Yet somehow when someone burns a flag in protest as a form of symbolic speech, people want laws and amendments against flag desecration.
@ultrademigod
@ultrademigod 2 жыл бұрын
@@carultch I've always found the idea that people want to lock up or commit acts of violence against other Americans using their freedom of expression to protest in that way, to be one of the least American things I can think of.
@carultch
@carultch 2 жыл бұрын
@@ultrademigod It is. And that is precisely why Texas vs Johnson struck down these laws.
@MJ-rc2jv
@MJ-rc2jv 2 жыл бұрын
And if the flag is made of an incorrect material that becomes a punishable offence.
@notabyzantophile
@notabyzantophile 2 жыл бұрын
I spend my leisure time staring at flags and maps so it would be extremely embarrassing if I didn't know every country's flag at this point
@mojavefry2617
@mojavefry2617 2 жыл бұрын
Something I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older is that younger folks are having a harder time dealing with abstract thought and concepts. Everything is always literal, and never theoretical or abstract, because somehow it’s wrong to try and grasp abstract concepts. I personally think it’s because it’s difficult to build an identity around abstract concepts, and in a time where people are putting identity as a thing of primary importance the abstract is falling into disfavor.
@Beef3D
@Beef3D 3 жыл бұрын
As a Belgian, I get peeved whenever I hear outsiders call us "Germany" or "your flag looks like the German flag" Because Belgium while existing not as long as Germany, always had the Black, Yellow, and Red 'Tricolor', since it's foundation in 1830, at least 16 years ahead of when Germany made it's first draft of the three stripes in the same color that they use today. Also let's not forget in that time Germany switched flags like 3 times... from the Prussian Empire, to the German Empire, to the 3rd Reich, and now back to the horizontal three stripes they have today.
@Shifty_
@Shifty_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it just comes down to that fact that we were louder and more dramatic, I think. Makes us more memorable in a world where people are bad at geography in general. It’s nuts to me, I live in america now, and people can tell me what day which general did what in World War 2, but they didn’t know germany was split into east and west after the war, for example. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ people are dumb. At least there are only two of us, unlike the red white and blue club.
@MetalHeart8787
@MetalHeart8787 3 жыл бұрын
well as an American Smart American who studies Flags I understand BUT it's just that not many other people know about Flags. Ill be doing a subdivision Flags of Belgium I just did one for Spain Flags will upload that sometime soon. I do have some Flag related videos up also.
@oscarquintero2209
@oscarquintero2209 3 жыл бұрын
Venezuelan revolutionary Francisco de Miranda also designed a black-red-yellow horizontal tricolor flag in 1806, intended to be the banner of the new Venezuelan Army he wanted to form. It was supposed to represent the three main racial groups of the country: black people, white people and pardos (triracials). It is often depicted in history books as a early proposal for Venezuela's flag, even though it was projected as an exclusively military symbol (Miranda had already designed a different horizontal tricolor flag which included the yellow, blue and red that would eventually become [albeit with a different pattern] the first official Venezuelan flag in 1811, and then as a result of the subsequent developments of the War of Independence and Miranda's/Bolívar's unification project also the flag of [Gran] Colombia and the States that emerged from it's dissolution). Edit: Forgot to mention that the flag of modern day Miranda State pays homage to this seminal design. As a piece of extra flag trivia, there had been a previous revolutionary attempt in 1797 known as the Gual and España Conspiracy, which was discovered and crushed before its namesake leaders could really do anything other than, well, conspire. They had also took the time to design their own flag for the new, independent country they wanted Venezuela to become (which also contained multicolored stripes representing different racial groups, as well as the human-faced sun symbol of later Southern Cone fame). This flag was never actually flown as far as I know; as I mentioned earlier, they were caught before the actual coup d'etat could take place. But it was adopted as the modern day flag of Vargas State, in which the city of La Guaira, where they had intended the revolution to take place; is located.
@Squaretable22
@Squaretable22 3 жыл бұрын
belgium as a country has existed longer than Germany as a country has existed. Prussia in 1830 was not yet in 1830 Germany by another name. If we are going for the HRE well, Belgium Austria and Czech Rep were all in that too.
@owenosborne-lewis5060
@owenosborne-lewis5060 3 жыл бұрын
Germany is more known than Belgium, since its a smaller, younger country. Obviously people will think that, sorry about it.
@RaviDev108
@RaviDev108 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly your "bad flags" launched my obsession with flags xD
@swaveszymczyk8826
@swaveszymczyk8826 3 жыл бұрын
I find the collection of items displayed behind you fascinating. And your videos super interesting.
@armynation31B5V5P
@armynation31B5V5P 3 жыл бұрын
Love your breakdowns JJ
@2tri749
@2tri749 3 жыл бұрын
As a member of the North American Vexillological Association/NAVA, I agree with a lot of your points
@Shanenap
@Shanenap 3 жыл бұрын
How do I get in
@starkillerdude1914
@starkillerdude1914 3 жыл бұрын
Its funny how flag laws exist, in my native Costa Rica when José María Castro Madriz approved the modern Costa Rican flag design in 1848 he issued rules that only government buildings and places could have the flag with the coat of arms and citizens were only allowed to use the flag with no coat of arms 🇨🇷 however this failed and no one followed this rule displaying both versions.
@FroyourHistory
@FroyourHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they want to restrict the use of a nation's flag? Wouldn't the government want people to feel pride in a nation and it's symbols?
@starkillerdude1914
@starkillerdude1914 3 жыл бұрын
@@FroyourHistory It's not that they wanted to restrict national pride it's that they wanted a system where the coat of arms was the official government symbol and the people had the regular flag to use however it failed in the long run it was just too widespread to enforce Ironically most border security/police or government workers often have the flag with no coat of arms on their outfit
@FroyourHistory
@FroyourHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@starkillerdude1914 oh I understand I just thought it was counterintuitive. Very interesting
@starkillerdude1914
@starkillerdude1914 3 жыл бұрын
@@FroyourHistory It was a really dumb law which actually come to think of it might still be in effect de facto but it was just so hard and unrealistic to enforce that there was no way it was ever going to be a thing
@FroyourHistory
@FroyourHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@starkillerdude1914 yeah. Though I wonder if it's enforced for shipping and boats.
@Kristoby
@Kristoby 2 жыл бұрын
4:46 that union flag is wrong. The diagonal red line on the top right should be on the left side of the White diagonal stripe, not the right.
@ZincoDrone
@ZincoDrone 3 жыл бұрын
JJ is the only person that looks like a time capsule from the 80s I will listen to about Flags of the world.
@fadizammour1073
@fadizammour1073 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like how people feel super inclined to make their personal flags and flag redesigns as simple and more notably symmetrical as possible. Sure it makes a flag look more pleasing, but it always ends up with "funny symbol in middle" or mabey some equal strips. And I also feel that people are very obsessed with having a unique symbol in some way on their flag. The are always like, "the stars are kinda boring" or "why can't you throw the 'something' in the middle?"
@irmuusanaa4227
@irmuusanaa4227 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Mongolic flags, they have a certain colors and symbols that say “We’re related” like the Inner mongols, Mongolia and buryat all using the same symbol while some still use the combination of yellow and blue, like cultural birth marks with the sky, sun and moon.
@turmunhkganba1705
@turmunhkganba1705 3 жыл бұрын
What is cultural Stockholm syndrome
@irmuusanaa4227
@irmuusanaa4227 3 жыл бұрын
@@turmunhkganba1705 idk I wrote this at three Am
@gkky-xx4mc
@gkky-xx4mc 3 жыл бұрын
Again this is assuming that there even is a flag for Inner Mongolia/Buryat/other Mongolic cultures. Sure the polandball community created a bunch of anachronistic flags to represent all of them, but traditionally Mongolic cultures used a diverse set of _tugs_ to represent their tribes and cultures instead of flags. The new flags are "cultural" bc they're just slapping already significant symbols onto a bedsheet, not because they've had any particular history or significance to Mongolic peoples in general.
@benjamincantrell6752
@benjamincantrell6752 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I’m new to your channel Ake have been watching a bunch lately,, and I think you make fascinating content. You have a great way of making your points and conveying them in a thoughtful, novel and engaging way. Keep flourishing :)
@GameMaker3_5
@GameMaker3_5 Жыл бұрын
I'd personally believe that the reason some countries are depicted as having flags is simply so that Paradox games can represent the countries properly in the UI
@kryann3112
@kryann3112 3 жыл бұрын
I got excited when JJ mentioned Lithuania, i don't know if i should feel happy or sad about the fact i got excited when someone just mentions the country i'm from
@NimanWielder01
@NimanWielder01 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, I think you're fine. It's nice to suddenly be mentioned.
@eustache_dauger
@eustache_dauger 3 жыл бұрын
Don't let others dictate how you should feel. Lithuania is awesome anyway! One of my more memorable trip in Europe 😁👍
@crazydragy4233
@crazydragy4233 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a normal reaction. It's just in your dna lol
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE 3 жыл бұрын
Just make a flag with a big tent. It's literally a catch all big tent flag.
@nathanmcgill7249
@nathanmcgill7249 3 жыл бұрын
A tent is just fabric and poles, so it's basically already a flag
@Polmaise1
@Polmaise1 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmcgill7249 stfu
@nelsonricardo3729
@nelsonricardo3729 3 жыл бұрын
@@Polmaise1 Rude!
@swagmund_freud6669
@swagmund_freud6669 2 жыл бұрын
"and since the LGBT community is very complex, so must their flag be" Totally unrelated but that's fine quality V2 word order in modern English.
@EvanC881
@EvanC881 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely well done video! Thank you!
@maskedmalarky8706
@maskedmalarky8706 3 жыл бұрын
I personally don’t see a problem with people giving nations that didn’t have flags newly made flags.I mean as long as they don’t claim it’s always been there flag who cares.It’s fun to give ancient nations banners plus vexolgy is a cool thing in general and a lot of people have fun with it
@qugart.
@qugart. 3 жыл бұрын
Their you have it
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
It’s ahistorical. Why not give them kings they never had while you’re at it.
@XDXD-rj4si
@XDXD-rj4si 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJMcCullough countryballs can't be anything OTHER than flags jj. It's like cartoons wearing gloves. Mice don't wear gloves but Mickey mouse did. We could possibly have the emblem or symbol or whatever the historical kingdoms had on the countryballs, but countryballs for those states are mostly their seal/emblem on a field of a stereotypical colour of that state
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJMcCullough well there are a ton ancient nations that had national symbols or used certain objects as psuedo flags.
@DavidJamesHenry
@DavidJamesHenry 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJMcCullough Countryballs are a good way to turn complex civilizations into characters with emotions so they're easier to digest for a non historian. Obviously they're ahistorical, but that's part of the fun. It's mostly memes anyway.
@redere4777
@redere4777 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of modern flag designers try to make their flags using a lot of the same design rules one would use when creating a company logo, which ends up giving them a more dull or off feel
@PonnyAndFriends
@PonnyAndFriends 2 жыл бұрын
here down in Mexico it's a felony to use the national flag or seal with the exception, of course, of the state institutions... but this is Mexico and it is very unusual the enforcement of the seal, flag an hymn law, or the enforcement of any law at all xd
@el_misto
@el_misto 2 жыл бұрын
11:49 ngl, this one kinda slaps
@nobelium4487
@nobelium4487 2 жыл бұрын
black blue red and white. it kinda goes hard
@pihlajafox
@pihlajafox Жыл бұрын
Imo Wales should be in some way a part of the Union Jack
@gabrielfraser2109
@gabrielfraser2109 3 жыл бұрын
In South Africa, white nationalists like to wave the old Apartheid flag. Besides representing an ugly time period, I just want to say that the Apartheid era flag is aesthetically ugly as sin. The modern SA flag is exceptionally beautiful. The design is extremely distinctive and unique, without being jarring or out of place. You can tell that a lot of passion went into the design.
@brandonk.4864
@brandonk.4864 3 жыл бұрын
The modern SA flag is one of my favorite modern flags!
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
It is one of the best flags in the world, I agree. A fantastic mix of color and design. I also don't know what, if anything it specifically represents, just because it functions so well as a symbol of "South Africa," period.
@DOCTORKHANblog
@DOCTORKHANblog 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion. I prefer the old SA flag. The new one is an example of what not to do with a flag.
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 3 жыл бұрын
@@DOCTORKHANblog I just assume you’re some kinda racist because there’s no other reason to like that awful flag over the current, good one.
@DOCTORKHANblog
@DOCTORKHANblog 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJMcCullough I'm black. Thanks for assuming.
@generalgongthehawkeye557
@generalgongthehawkeye557 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, us Polandball comic makers just want to use a symbol for a character so people will know which country the character is attempting to satirise. (sorry I don't speak fluent English)
@gohanssj48
@gohanssj48 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched Countryballs Explained video about the history of China and I've never assumed the symbols he used to represent the dynasties were their respectives flags.
@Meepmoop23
@Meepmoop23 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a TED talk on KZfaq about a guy who judges flags and he’s got his own podcast. He crucifies the city flag of Phoenix and loves Chicago’s.
@TitoLounge11
@TitoLounge11 2 жыл бұрын
Chicago flag is *chefs kiss*
@ziontrask3459
@ziontrask3459 Жыл бұрын
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