Sorta a grass is greener type of thing.

Clearly Mexico has the best system among The Three Amigos

@@PikeProductions23 yeah but nobody online talks about Mexico as much as the US and Canada

@@PikeProductions23 unironically yes, they have universal public healthcare plus private options at a wide variety of price points.

@@PikeProductions23 probably.

How do you chose? Like when do you make the decision?

Is the public option cheaper?

@@logo2462 Yes it is. The private healthcare system in Germany is usually for people with a high income or who work for the government.

@@JJMcCullough You can only opt for the private healthcare if you are self-employed, are a public servant or earn above €67k a year. Once you go private, it is VERY difficult to go back to public. The bad side of public healthcare is that your choice of appointment times is usually more limited and you don't get perks e.g. nicer beds or TV or WiFi in hospitals. The downside of the private system is that your rates are risk-based. So the older and sicker you get, the more you have to pay. Also, if private, you usually have to pay in advance out of pocket and get reimbursed by the insurance. This is very problematic for the old and sick. This is exactly why the system is one-way, to prevent using cheap private insurance while young and healthy and later switching to public when old and sick.

Thank you for educating Canadians that the alternative doesn’t have to be “American-style”. Im a Canadian that lived and worked in Germany for years. Very good 2-tier system that provides excellent care to all. Excellent health services to support new mothers, too.

A centralized system would undoubtedly yield more consistently positive results; delegating it to the provinces did nothing but create over a dozen different healthcare systems that are all less efficient than they could be. (Also sets the stage for provinces saying raising pay for doctors would just negatively impact other provinces.)

Bold of you to assume we can even go see a doctor if it's b4 6 pm. I've been on a waiting list to get a doctor for 3 years, and according to the gov, I might get one in 5 years. And I'm on the priority list due to a chronic issue

Very brave of JJ to make this video, considering his audience leans strongly to the left, and is a bit on the anti American side. This doesn't even mention that most of the world takes American medical advancements to improve their systems, meaning if there was no US, their systems would be worse. I think there are things the US and European nations can learn from each other in healthcare, although I would point out that it is much easier to administer a collectivized system in nations that where the population is much closer together. That being said, I am definitely open to making American healthcare more European. It's just that for me the jury is still out on whether American or European style healthcare is better, as it seems that depending on your focus, relating to quality of care, costs and wait time would affect how you answer it. I'd also just say that, and this might be going a little deep here, the US' place as the world's most powerful and influential nation plays a role in how this topic is discussed, both within the US (between opposing sides) and outside of the US. Because of the US' status as top dog in influence, power, and in achievements and might in many things, many countries (particularly Western countries, which are more culturally similar and thus feel more of a rivalry with US) in response have seized on issues that the US either ostensibly has, or actually has, and displays openly, as a way to tell their population "see, you don't have to feel overawed about the US' position relative to our country because of..." Not to trivialize the problems that would fall under this category, but most of them are problems that other nations have as well or things that are exaggerated to be in the US compared to other countries (any level of racism, sexism etc) by the US media, which leans left, so will emphasize them both for views and to advance their narrative. Or they are things that the US actually doesn't do worse than other nations but is simplified and misrepresented by foreign nations and/or people in the US themselves to make them think that they do, or are things that are a function of having a much larger, more diverse, heterogeneous and spread out population than other Western countries. The ironic thing is that foreigners constantly complain about Americans lacking specific knowledge of their countries or making generalizations, while they themselves make generalizations and lack knowledge of the US. But what they do is worse, because they are much more exposed to the US, American media, way of life etc than vice versa. And the left and media in America plays into this for a few reasons; The media likes attention grabbing stories. And many Americans, of any persuasion, do have a sense that they are the center of the world, so any major events in the US are widely broadcast everywhere. And people like to make grand statements with "America is" as the prefix, because the fact that the US is so influential in the world will make their statement, whether wrong or right, carry weight. The US is almost subconsciously seen as the "World Society," whereas making grand statements saying "Denmark this" or "New Zealand that" would seem a little too colloquial. I also suspect that the left in the US latches on to narratives (true and false ones) of country x doing better than the US in this, because they think that the American right, which is extremely patriotic, will be swayed to do what the left wants just so that the left will stop saying "country x is better than America in this." Lastly, in comparing the US to any other country, Americans getting together to say that their country is better than country x feels like punching down, while people from another country getting together to hate on the US feels like punching up, which is why you get dynamics where people favor one country over the US. And while it affects the US the most, you see this in any comparison of similar countries in which one country is bigger and more influential than the other. Watch any UK v Ireland or Australia v New Zealand video, and you'll never see the majority of comments favoring the UK over Ireland or Australia over New Zealand. What does this have to do with healthcare? Well this dynamic lends itself to the aforementioned preconceived negative and incorrect notions about American healthcare from foreigners, and the romanticization of foreign (for example Canadian) healthcare within the US, mainly on the left. It's along the lines of "ACTUALLY, these countries are better than the US because..." line of thinking. And because Canada for example is overshadowed by the US in most things, the romanticization of healthcare is something that becomes a rock that cannot be moved

@@AW-zk5qb JJ is a blatant conservative and its well known in Canada. His audience is NOT left wing I promise you. Its right wing Americans. He's the kind who uses American ignorance to invent problems and lie about my country. This video for example is painfully not objective and ignores the actual problem and how private clinics will do NOTHING to solve our problem. This is propaganda meant to get Americans to pressure my country to drop socialized medicine and its pathetic.

@@AW-zk5qb OMG, so many words used to still saynsomething so ignorant...

I didnt even know that. Canadian system is terrible. I say this as a Canadian myself. Living in South Korea I can walk into any specialist office without an appointment and pay just a few dollars with the government paying most of the tab. Not free but not expensive. Also very fast. A mixed system I guess. Private and public. Sorry to hear about your difficulties.

My problem has been I can't get a GP to listen to me long enough to even consider a referral to a specialist. They literally have no interest in preventative medicine. You have to be obviously sick to get anywhere in the system.

@@kellycarter4944 yes sadly. I think doctors and medical staff must be under budgetary pressure to avoid medical tests or referrals. It is rationing. It's not like they can fired or sued for bad service or medical treatment. Canada's medical system is broken and 100 per cent free is not 100 per cent quality. I don't mind paying a small amount over here to go to specialists directly and to get fast service.

@@sho8631 of course it is it's not the NHS I can go to my GP, A&E or call an ambulance it's all pre paid by this think called taxes

@@jamessullivan6031 so is Canada's paid by taxes but free to the user in the sense you pay no fees at the time. Either way bad service, shortages, long waits, rationing, etc.

not to mention michael moore praised england of literally all countries

I think a major difference is few Americans feel a patriotic need to defend their country's system out of a sense of national pride and identity.

@@MsZsc If Michael Moore said the sky was blue, I'd go outside to check.

Look at the South Korean system. It is a private and public mix. It is cheap and fast. Government pays some but not all. But they do negotiate pricing with all the stakeholders.

Yep.

In Sweden, you can only pay at max 3600 SEK (350 USD) per year for medication; everything after that is covered by taxes, since it's deemed that you actually need it. It's a way to avoid people abusing a free system, by forcing everyone to pay a certain amount; an amount most people would prefer to avoid.

What type of insulin do you use? I'm interested in this topic but I'm not a diabetic. Are there different varieties and generics vs name brand and newer vs older?

Seems to me that the US has the worst of both worlds: Enough government regulation and meddling to keep competition from lowering prices, but not enough to keep prices low directly.

@@paulhamrick3943 There are many different delivery methods; some of the newer autoinjector types operate similar to a prodrug, in that they're slowly released into the body without needing additional doses throughout the day. Those tend to be more expensive due to lasting patents, but the basic "vial of insulin" that many Americans rely so dearly on is still laughably cheap to produce yet sold for $10+/dose.

@@paulhamrick3943 to clarify I am using an insulin pump that uses short term acting insulin here in the USA the common brands are Novolog and Humalog. (Basically identical) I use Humalog currently which is produced by Lilly. -in addition that pump I own costs 10k to purchase plus an additional 6-7k for a CGM system. And all of the ongoing purchases you need for those supplies.

Would the private clinic that you work at be willing to accept the BC Care card for payments and charge the government instead of the patient? If the answer to that is yes then your private clinic is no different than many peoples family doctor or the walk in clinic a couple blocks away.

@@alexmcintyre8229 no it’s private. You pay before any procedure.

I am a Canadian living in Japan. Japan has a national health insurance but you still have to pay up to about 10%. In the past, a doctor recommended I get an MRI. I was able to book one in a matter of days. I think I paid about $75. I have never had the problem of waiting for a procedure here. I also have to go to a clinic to get medication every 3 months. I wait less than an hour and pay about $10. Mind you, the Japanese government is deep in debt and I do not know how much of that is healthcare related.

$75 is a bargain! Locally where I live in the United States, they run $1500 or more, and despite breaking my neck, my insurance company required cheaper radiological tests first, and it would only pay for both of my spiblnal fusions after both of these tests were done. Luckily, I only had a $1500 deductible despite my medical bills running around $300,000-$2,000,000 yearly.

Yes, but it's still better than going bankrupt if you get into a car accident; or have a burst appendix.

For dentistry at least, that might soon be changing thanks to the NDP agreement at the federal level.

@@ms_cartographer this is such bullshit lol. The whole "bankrupt because of car accident" is the oldest pre programmed Canadian response in the book. Most Americans do not have this experience lol.

​@@dunnowy123 Well, you've never experienced American insurance companies then huh. When you get an $11,000 Bill after your insurance decided that nah they won't cover your surgery for Reasons after pre approving coverage of the surgery you'll understand

​@@dunnowy123 medical bankruptcy is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US by a long shot

I think that's a more recent phenomenon and a symptom of the closing days of neo liberalism. No one really knows what to do next. Do we continue on with neo liberalism and privatize or try something different or even try and improve the system we have (but no one wants to pay for)?

Who the hell do you know thats defending the Canadian telecom industry?!

@@sadas1211 Bell lol

Yes, and bonus points for the ones that are even remotely like anything American...it seems many Canadians would rather stab themselves in the eye with a fork than admit anything from the US may be on par with, or even superior to a Canadian policy.

what's the root of this line of thought? If a system is utterly broken, what are you losing to try something else?

Interesting, here in Germany you don't pay for visiting the doctor too, only like 5 bucks for some conscription medicine, but I have never heard of people going to the doctor for no reason, maybe local differences but here it works just fine

in response to number 2, that's why i use telehealth services for minor things before doing anything, like going to emerg or a walk-in, i'm not tryna waste people's time. i had my first migraine attack a few weeks ago with an aura (pretty scary! thought i was going blind!) and the nurses were great in directing me as to how to care for myself at home, plus they got back to me super quick. the times where i knew "oh lord i need to call an ambulance/go to emerg" were: two drug overdoses and when my ear was profusely bleeding. in those events, there was no wait time i could complain about at all, because they were actual emergencies lol.

We have a lot of hypochondriacs in the US, too. Also, under the for-profit model the opposite problem tends to occur, where hospitals will too hastily turn recovering people back out onto the street in order to free up the availability of beds for a constant supply of new paying patients. Toward the end of his life, my dad practically used the private ambulance service as his personal taxi because the hospital kept sending him home without first waiting for his infections to clear, and he would always have to return a week or so later. Sometimes the ambulance service wouldn't even respond to calls from his house, or the responders would recognize him and refuse to take him back. Which is understandable. From their perspective my father was just abusing a vital service. In reality the hospital felt he was a lost cause and would rather he just died at home, not taking up a hospital bed from another paying customer

@@timteichmann6830 specifically in the case of my friends, who are both pediatricians, it’s parents bringing their children in for every little sniffle. They’ll be told they’re fine, and then they’re back at the doctors the next day, saying “I know you said they’re fine, but I just want to make extra sure!” As doctors, they can’t refuse the request, but it takes them away from dealing with children who are actually sick. Plus they still have to bill the government for each of these visits.

About your number two point, I doubt that would work. In Portugal people now pay small amounts (5 to 20 euros) and it doesn't stop them. Doesn't stop them when they pay 50 at a private doctor.

@@shorewall When a country's population is dominated by those who are of old age they either need to bring in more high skilled workers, raise the retirement age, raise taxes or a combination of the three. It doesn't help that the country also has a low birth rate, due to the expenses of having a child. Raising taxes or moving to a private insurance just exacerbates the problem. It's a very complex issue where reform brings its own problems that we have to solve. The days of a booming population is over, and a lot of people are pushing back or abandoning their dreams of having a home, or a family, because it's too expensive.

You hit the nail on the head. Here in Ontario, I had to wait almost 2 years just to be placed in therapy for mental health, and it was grueling. However, the private clinics were way too costly, and I couldn't afford to go, even with insurance. While I appreciate that I had treatment paid for by my government, those who fantasize our system are usually those who are terminally online, or they're American.

Contracted cancer? Like from hpv?

I think it's important to note that the issue isn't that reformers want "American Healthcare" because of experiences like you have described. The issue is almost any reform is scrutinized for if it appears "American" by the nationalists. This is frustrating because it shuts down avenues for improvement. Many developed countries that have objectively better healthcare outcomes than Canada have elements to their system that get rejected for being "too American" here.

@@PaigeMTL There are other reasons the reforms are being called "American" that he didn't have time to mention. There are a lot of reasons people distrust Ford's statements. Ford has done a lot of shady things like anti-strike, budget cuts, and over working people. This change comes off as a problem Ford created, and now is something he wants to claim he can solve.

True. There are so many reasons someone might be temporarily without insurance and god forbid anything happen during that time. My deductible is $6k so it pretty much pays for nothing unless it’s catastrophic. It also doesn’t cover the usuals, dental, vision, mental health, etc. that’s all out of pocket. Its also SO HARD to find a doctor in-network. I had to travel 45 minutes away to see an ENT. My ex BROKE HIS HAND and refused to go to the hospital because he didn’t have insurance. His hand is pretty messed up now from it and just about everyone i know had a similar story. I tell all my friends that if I ever have a medical emergency, call me an uber because I can’t afford an ambulance. Also side note. If you are fortunate enough to be able to afford private insurance, you better be relatively healthy because preexisting conditions will jack up your premium sky high, or flat out disqualify you for some programs.

Well... I, an American agree. My first introduction to a waiting list had been from the UK, and they usually have already set ones, you know you'll have to wait, and oftentimes it's as high as 55 weeks.. However, people with cancer probably shouldn't and wouldn't wait almost 30 weeks, it would be too late..

I waited five years for hip surgery here in Canada. Many people end up dying on our waitlists awaiting cancer treatment.

Heart attacks are usually high priority in Canada...plus looking at the data in 2005 America had a mortality rate from heart attacks of 12% (13% chance you'd die if you had a heart attack), while in Canada it was 11%... basically the same.....

@@mooftwosnum1fan480 Who cares, it's a funny joke.

@@shrimpflea because everybody knows political jokes are the funniest kind

What’s funny is that I’m pretty sure Canadian has pretty strict inheritance taxes

You are comparing small provinces to an urban area in the U.S and it feels like you are insinuating that you can't switch your doctor even in an urban area in Canada which is silly, it is something I just did. I don't doubt there are less doctors in rural areas but I don't think that has anything to do with particular failing in the Canadian healthcare system, and is just like that everywhere in the world that is sparely populated.

I'm an American who just moved to Toronto with my Canadian fiance two years ago. From what I've seen the Canadian system is really great in the sense that people don't have to seek out a good employer in order to get good insurance. However, the wait times are getting really, really bad. I am very concerned about it getting worse. I've also heard multiple Canadians say how important it is that they get/maintain a job that provides additional insurance/HC benefits.

@@RoughRunnerAce98 I haven't used the Canadian healthcare system, but as a rural American I can confirm that it's often possible to change doctors at will even in very rural areas here. (Even if you are an hour away from Doctor #2, then you're probably most of an hour away from Doctor #1 anyway.)

@@philipmcniel4908 There is nothing preventing you from switching doctors even in rural areas in Canada, it just has the same drawbacks as anywhere else in the world. Like you mentioned, it probably yields no benefit if all you are considering is distance from home, since its a rural area. I don't know what the first commenter is suggesting, for any reason if you don't want to work with a specific family doctor there isn't anything stopping you from switching in Canada in normal circumstances where there are other doctors taking new patients as far as I'm aware. We have the choice of family doctors here. My cousin lives an hour away from her family doctor because she liked and kept hers even when she moved away and can consult with the doctor over the phone...

The Canadian systems need improvements, and ideally, to be merged into a central system to cut costs and ensure quality care across the country. It's still a heck of a lot better than the US one for 99.9% of people though. ,(I say this as an indigenous Canadian who's experienced some pretty overt medical racism [Told by the first doc I saw re: ADHD following my diagnosis that "we don't really give stimulants to natives"] as has some of my family [docs ran a tox screen on my mother because she was complaining of 10/10 back pain in hospital. She was having an aortic dissection, and they waited 4 hours for the screen to come back negative before they did basic imaging and realized her aorta was dilated to over twice its normal size.])

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla bla... Canada sucks.

And in which country do you practice?

@@philltheotherguy1868 Sounds like Canada to me.

Psychiatry is covered. Psychology is not.

we have a really old health care system model, back when you just put people in mental asylums and that was "mental health" treatment. It's changed so much, but the system hasn't kept up with treatments.

That is one of the reasons we have a extremely high homeless , hungry population. They are all over every street even while -30 degree...very sad with this Liberal NDP government

You are all over the place, your life must be interesting 🙂

I'm American, and CAN CONFIRM. I've had to declare bankruptcy twice, the last time I did I had insurance.

Exactly. Even our good insurance isn't all that good in the grand scheme of things.

My mom is permanently disabled and cannot work. Because her income is zero, she doesn’t qualify for reduced health insurance through obamacare. She also doesn’t qualify for medicaid because she lives with me. She ALSO doesn’t qualify for disability insurance because she was a stay-at-home mom before becoming disabled. She has regular surgeries because of her health problems and is in thousands of dollars in medical debt with no way to pay it. Our system in America is so fundamentally flawed.

This. Know plenty of US folks with excellent insurance that get hit with huge bills, even for things like childbirth. As rough as our system is in Canada, it's a far sight better

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

You are totally correct about the second point.

If they’re worried of a medical supply, then the government should have an incentive to invest in public medical schools big-time

The US has ~100% overall higher cost for healthcare compared to Canada. The US costs have resulted in a supply curve where the US has primary care access at 87% versus 86% in Canada. Canadian family doctors (GPs) are private providers. See “Canada ranks last in primary health care access among 10 wealthy countries: report”. In the private surgery provision experiments the provinces have run not only were the costs higher (despite cherry-picking the uncomplicated cases), the provincial wait times ended up increasing. Private provision is a hackneyed fake solution. It is sham innovation.

Two other era’s are dyed hair JJ and mustache JJ

It really doesn’t help that a few years back there was a study that the cbc themselves reported noting that allowing euthanasia as a form of health care could save 130 million dollars.

I don’t think JJ wanted to get into political territory. He talked about how he wanted to get away from partisan politics. But I still think that is a big issue.

Beat me to the punch, I really like jjs content, but not touching in this seems like a cop out

I would definitely want to hear JJ's take on this, because all the discourse I've heard on it is extremely sensational, especially here in the States where there is a lot of money to be made from the insurance lobby to tell lіеs and half truths about public healthcare. JJ is one of the few people I would trust to approach this phenomenon fairly.

Yeah...shameful!

Tuga?

Conhecedor do panorama tuga e brasileiro aqui. Prefiro os dois sistemas ao canadense.

Aquela citação sobre os políticos, por medo da repercussão eleitoral, não quererem aumentar impostos, nem aumentar a participação do setor privado na saúde, nem explicar para a população as consequências de o sistema de saúde tomar uma fatia crescente do orçamento público se aplica perfeitamente ao Brasil. Ela se aplica à questão da previdência social brasileira também, mas isso é uma outra conversa.

It's almost as if the same policies bring about the same results.

@@felipeitoanuatti sistema público de saúde é sempre um gasto enorme. Que se justifica. E que precisa de ser pago. Nao é gratuito, mesmo que o utilizador não tiver que pagar nada após utilizar os seus serviços. Os nossos impostos pagam o mesmo.

While I agree the system needs to change. I do think people should still be skeptical with Ford. He isn't the most well known for doing things in the best interest of the people. He has a tendency to say one thing then do another. Now I do hope that his changes lead to a better future. But I won't believe it till I see it.

He would have had to do a much longer video to compare everything. He also missed a lot of detail around Doug Ford's policies influencing the distrust in Ford's announcement. I don't think it was going to be a full analysis of either healthcare system, and he does lean right which effects how he covers things.

In the US, I had the opposite experience. Went to the hospital, stayed a few days, then saw 4 specialists within a week afterwards. Whenever I have a flare up, I can see my specialist same day, or their assistant can take care of matters to comfort symptoms, until they can fit me in within a week. This is not intended to be smug. I think it depends on where you live and the number of health systems available. Also helps having good PPO coverage that's basically universally accepted.

so much for muh canadian wait time

yeah JJ missed the mark on this one :/

specialists can take forever, but usually if you want to travel you can

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

Bet you were waiting in a hospital waiting room for the vid

Sounds like me waiting for a specialist. I've been on the list for over a year to get my chronic illness diagnosed. Instead, I've paid so much in physiotherapy to manage the pain since physio isn't covered. I do wonder if a diagnosis would cover it as I have to go 1-4 times a month at least.

Just like the people waiting for their broken leg to be fix

@ingrid is the wait times in alberta bad? trying to decide if to migrate to canada and as an asthmatic that got lil worst after covid and this health care system, i cant decide

@@swankyshivy It really depends. When I had a family doctor, I didn't have any wait times. Since my family doctor quit, we have to rely on walk-in clinics, and the wait times there can sometimes be long.

"no one wants to pay more taxes"..well problem is that the concentration of wealth and loop holes for tax avoidance means the very rich are not paying sufficient tax, and move money out of the jurisdiction

This seems to be a problem more in highly individualistic countries (ie Canada, US, etc). People often confuse individualism w/ being a man alone on an island. The man dies. If 10 people land on an island w/ 1 a doctor he/she will treat everyone, no cost. The 9 others will support the doctor.

thats one stage of the resource curse

Honestly, as a Canadian, I preferred my Healthcare when we paid for our premiums... as soon as they took over, services were reduced or cut out completely. We NEVER EVER want the govt to "provide" such services because they lack! I'd rather pay and get what I need.

A potential solution could involve incorporated direct democracy sampled from the public. Give a panel information from experts and plan options, and then let them decide on what they are willing to sacrifice. France has done something similar in a trial

A lot of Americans I've talked to assume that college is free in Canada as well, and while it is cheaper than the US, you absolutely still have to pay tuition.

Dental is often included on a bunch of student health plans. Pretty good value for your money. On the other hand, as a kid I was stunned to find out that dental wasn't covered by OHIP. We really need to get on that, and a national pharmacare program.

And those issues CAN be addressed. If Canadians could get off their anti american high horse for like, a day, a lot could be addressed. The reply to any valid critique of Canadian healthcare is ALWAYS shitting on the US. What problem does that solve? None. It's a much better use of energy to find unique solutions for unique Canadian problems.

It doesn’t have to be American style! It can be a 2-tier system that works very well for all, like in many other parts of the world that are Not America .

@@alligator_pie Or federalize it and make the one-tier system less expensive and make it easier to address shortages in a given area.

you’re obsessed with us 🇺🇸

Depending on what medical problems you are managing, in Canada you may have been recommended for euthanasia by now. I'm not joking. Ordinary chronic disease sufferers are being counselled into suicide by Canada's health systems.

I think that this perception that all counties in Europe have the same system really holds back discussions on healthcare reform in the US. It seems to be stuck in a debate between either the status quo or complete government control that “all other developed counties have.”

Going to America for covered treatment is another example of public coverage of private service

@@JJMcCullough the issue with American Healthcare is the cost but the quality of care is pretty good as long as you are covered by insurance or a government program that is.

@@bradley8575 the quality is about on par with most other developed nations. you aren't getting 20x better insulin for 20x the price

@@ColonizerChan true, but you never have more than two people to a small room. Many I've talked to from England act like US hospitals are like hotels and would never dream of a private room for delivering their baby I think understanding "universal healthcare" is as problematic for Americans as it seems to be Canadians understanding USA Healthcare. I think it's also about finding where exactly things started going wrong and figuring out a solution. For example my dad didn't have the best of jobs growing up, and we were a paycheck to paycheck family, but our medical bills were at most a third if today's and that's just 20ish years ago. Even just 10 yrs ago my aunt had no problems obtaining medicade, but now it's a fight for her to keep it.

I think this type of scenario where someone is being sent from Canada to the U.S. for treatment not available in Canada has a lot to do with America being 10x the size of Canada. In general, I’d expect and hope America has more health resources than a country it is 10x the size of. Here and there, you may find treatment that is available or at least more advanced in Canada (e.g. The Peter Munk Centre in Toronto is #1 in the world for heart related issues), but undeniably, of course America is going to have more advanced treatment than Canada due to its size.

US healthcare is abysmal. Wait times are vastly over exaggerated. Sure if you have something that is elective you may have to wait a little longer but if it is an emergency you get seen immediately. It is prioritized on need not money like in the US.

The conversation around healthcare in Canada has always been rife with misnomers. Before the Obamacare Era, it was known as "free healthcare", an obvious misnomer since it is paid for by taxation. After that it was known as "single payer", another misnomer since Canadians use a combination of Medicare, private insurance, and relatively small out of pocket payments to pay for healthcare. The best way to describe it is as a "Medicare for all" system. When Bernie Sanders advocates for "Medicare for all" He is almost certainly talking about a system similar to the Canadian system.

Most Canadians take an "American style" healthcare system as being predatory, and for the rich. The actual navigation of the insurance policies that are offered go over most people's head unless they have been in insurance a long time.

@@stickjohnny However, none of the names are misnomers. "Free healthcare" is not a misnomer, because it free at the point of service, thus free. Everyone realises you can't get away from taxes, but at least they are definitely paying for something useful. Two things are certain in life death and taxes. "Single payer" is also not a misnomer, because single payer is a reference to how the system is run a single, ie. the government, is the only party that offers insurance, and thus is the only payer into the medical system. Now there are nuances in our system that make the label not perfect, but it is not a misnomer. "Medicare for all" only refers to the outcome.

It isn't. He's oversimplifying, and being kind of dishonest.

@@slowjamsliver7006 Rather than have a very silly and pointless semantical discussion I'm happy to just agree to disagree.

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

Dude. That would make my day.

I am in my late 50s and provinces have been throwing out those sort of numbers since I was in high school and the forecast never come true whilst the marginal tax rate for the wealthy goes down.

Ok now do a % of overall GDP and compare to the US.

It was dark but thank you for sharing your story anyway.

JJ leads the sheeple while Canada is taken over by NWO communists.

"Heroically Centrist"

Canadians seem particularly ill-informed about….well, everything. I had one claim that college was expensive in the US because “the US doesn’t have public universities, unlike Canada.” I had another claim “the US spends the majority of its budget on the military, unlike Canada where we spend it on roads and education.” Both these people were physically in the US at the time, enjoying economic and cultural activities they couldn’t do “in Canada.”

To be fair, JJ underplayed issues with the American system significantly. For the insured, things like coinsurance, copays, and deductibles regularly make like saving procedures cripplingly expensive even with coverage. And for the uninsured (which make up a much larger portion of the US than JJ's tone implied), they not only have to cope with paying the same amount that would be covered by insurance, they have to pay significant markups that insurance companies are able to negotiate away. Between these two groups, there is a large portion of the United States that is effectively cutoff from medical care in all but the most dire circumstances, and financially crippled when they aren't. Given the choice of waiting for care or receiving none at all, I know what I prefer. (I'm not suggesting the Canadian model is perfect or that it would not benefit from reform, but suggesting the current US system is anything but an objective failure in comparison seems far fetched in my opinion).

@@notabot5464 Who is employed and uninsured in the US?

@@answerman9933 People working in small businesses across the country, like my mother for example. The current system places the cost for coverage on employers, with smaller companies having higher costs due to their smaller pools. This results in many small businesses forgoing coverage, making them less competitve than their big business peers while also disadvantaging their employees, who have to pay ridiculous premiums for single payer plans.

@@notabot5464 Sounds like a poor business plan.

Yes, this - wait times vs. losing your humanity, house, etc.

Canadians also pay about 50% of their income in taxes. Americans do not (they pay much lower taxes), so theoretically one could account for these bills by saving or treating it as a necessary cost.

i’m an american citizen who lives in minnesota and i’ve never paid a medical bill in my life. when i was poor they gave me free health insurance. first of all you have to look at healthcare policies in EACH STATE. canadians biggest mistake is thinking american healthcare is the same across the board. in minnesota we are one of the highest taxed states, so we have safety nets for people in bad situations. second, charity is very american. we don’t like to be forced to pay taxes for others unwillingly (taxation is theft), we have a culture of donating money and other resources to help the needy. christians are very good at this. and BECAUSE OF CAPITALISM we have some of the best medical centers in the world. people from all over the globe come to minnesota to come to the Mayo Clinic, celebs and all.

@@eliasarches2575 And yet tons of Canadians say it would be cheaper to fly back to Canada and talk to their old doctor, than get the same medication or treatment in the US.

Agreed, glossing over the fact that medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US really struck me as odd. I don’t think this is one of those cases where you can just shout “media sensationalism” regarding stories of people having to pay insane amounts out of pocket.

Much like our friend JJ here, who likes to act like everyone thinks the US is this scary evil place with no insurance, and Canadians get free healthcare supported by the money tree. When i think most people understand that healthcare is payed for by taxes, and Americans generally have some form of healthcare provided through work. But skirts over any valid concerns that may entail. Like the cost of healthcare per capita, or whether your healthcare should be linked to employment. But instead, he just likes to use the bogeyman to characterize anyone with a different opinion.

I know! I can’t understand how our wait times are better. It took my mom years to get the surgeries she needed approved. Simply because she had to schedule appointments at minimum six months out, sometimes more. With about two or three specialists in between that all made her wait and be in pain for years! She was working the whole time from home and couldn’t even sit without being in pain. By the end of it, she was bedridden and couldn’t hardly walk, let alone take herself to the doctor. But you really can’t get an ambulance because that’s not covered and can be anywhere from $500-1000+ depending on where they have to take you to get treatment. Oh yeah, and the visits and surgeries basically weren’t covered until we hit a $6000+ deductible. And she was in a good job with decent insurance coverage. She paid that deductible every year, because, like I said, it took YEARS to get everything done and deductibles reset at the beginning of the coverage period. Also the medicine was way too pricy, and so is mine. I wouldn’t be able to drive if I didn’t have mine and would probably be on disability right now. I’m not looking forward to switching to this new insurance. It’s a $7000 deductible and has higher co-pays. It’s just not fair. I’m so glad I get a discount for my $800 medicine I need, because they almost didn’t cover that either and I have to get it approved every year by the only doctor I can go to in reasonable distance that isn’t covered by insurance anyhow. Ugghhhhhhhhgehgejsjsnbj. I hope I never have a serious problem, because I’m screwed if I ever just have too hard a case of Covid or something. #MURICA

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

right now laws are being passed in Canada to make it a communist country do you think he will talk about that? You are being led.......

yep

this is right, but americans who can't pay have no healthcare ( some die ) and Canadians can run out of time ( some die)

I feel like people say this but I've never had a great experience with wait times in the american system.

right now laws are being passed in Canada to make it a communist country do you think he will talk about that? You are being led.......

Agreed.

Someone from India told me that the healthcare in India is a combination of public/private - public for minor stuff, private for more urgent stuff. That was his experience, what about yours?

@@SWProductions100 so I come from a middle middle class background and I never needed to go to public hospitals. Many public hospitals are admittedly not the best in terms of Healthcare but they're about free for the poor. Treatment is always immediate though no matter what. India doesn't have enough doctors per capita last I remember seeing some stat, but I can promise no one has to wait even a month to get treatment. There are some public health insurances for the lower economic classes but even without that I personally know a few who didn't have to pay a penny without it during emergencies. Ambulances are cheap cause sometimes they're just a van but it gets the work done cause there are plenty of hospitals of all sizes and levels in proximity. I honestly do like the standard of Healthcare here once you do get the right service but my god the wait times are intolerable and getting a family doctor is unnecessarily a herculean task. Still don't have one 🥲

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla bla... Canada sucks.

Prices in the US are ridiculous. I am lucky because the health insurance I get from my job is entirely covered by my employer and they give me an additional 1000 each year to pay for healthcare, no strings attached. Despite this, I am still hesitant to go to the doctor due to the outrageous prices. I paid over $400 for services to get rid of toenail fungus. All they did was clip my nails and proscribe a cheap medication. I've also paid $500 to get punctal plugs installed to alleviate dry eye. I've had to pay nearly $300 to get a ringing ear checked out. They did some hearing tests and cleaned out my ear and then proscribed some cheap medication. It's ridiculous.

Was the antibiotic made from unicorn hair or something?

@@supernukey419 oh no the perception after insurance was like $11, separate. The 800 is for the visit to the ER plus doctor fee.

@@mustaphajav9302 What does plus doctor fee mean?

@@supernukey419 I don’t know but it wasn’t earned in my opinion. I told him what was going on, he believed me, took look to look like he was working, and wrote the prescription

Nurses too! But definitely do a video on it. They basically wanted to save a dime so they shot themselves in the foot and it's going to Cost them a dollar to fix. God I love neo liberalism

The Fraser institute is Canada’s leading authority on wait times. As I said, some people think they are biased, but they are still the leading analysts of this issue.

@@JJMcCullough yeah I am sure wait times measurement can be trusted from FI, their solutions and root cause analysis may be more controversial

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla bla... Canada sucks.

right now laws are being passed in Canada to make it a communist country do you think he will talk about that? You are just a sheep being led......

Absolute clown world

What a fucking joke while communism takes over Canada JJ bla bla... Canada sucks.

In all honesty, most of the faults are the result of the government doing something to "try to help."

@Rusty Shackleford Our government can and should be doing more. Insulin prices are not going to go down without government action.

@@Plumlistic Our government? No thank you, they've fucked up enough already. Their meddling is already a big part of the reason why insurance and college tuition are so expensive.

@@POCKET-SAND If the government just got out of healthcare I think that costs would plummet. The US could end up with the most affordable (and best) healthcare in the developed world.