JK Inverter BMS: These adapters actually work! RS485 and CAN, Adapter Test and Cabling Guide.

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JK Inverter BMS: These adapters actually work! RS485 and CAN, Adapter Test and Cabling Guide.

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This video should clear things up on how to connect the new JK Inverter BMS via RS485 to your PC to do firmware updates and also change settings. I show in all details how to connect to the USB to RS485 adapters. I am testing 5 different adapter and see if they actually work and the JK BMS connects to the PC software. I open up all adapters to find out which chipset they are using, although some already show this in the Device Manager under Windows.
When connecting the BMS to your inverter via CAN communication, make sure to read the technical specifications about the CAN port of your inverter when making your own cable.
All tested USB to RS485 adapters are here:
EDIT: the Waveshare USB to RS485 is NOT isolated as mentioned in the video!
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@georgephillips7113 5 ай бұрын

Andy, I received my JK 200A inverter BMS last week It arrived with version 15.10 Fireware, and yesterday I attempted to update to 15.11 and of course, I bricked it, using the firmware file from your site, I then attempted to restore but no go, the bottom line is that I eventually downloaded from the JK website and that worked a treat just by pressing the on off button, maybe the newer hardwire version does not like the file name change? I see that JK have put a link to the unbricking password generator. I have been watching your videos for about 18 months and must congratulate you for the wonderful work you are doing! I have gained a lot of knowledge by watching your channel and believe that I owe you more than a beer so would like to buy you a case of your favourite oettinger, please let me know your nearest DM’s that you can collect from. Cheers from sunny Cape Town RSA

@TheRonskiman 6 ай бұрын

This weekend my first battery, inspired by Andy and using the JK BMS will be a year old. Great video as always.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

That is fantastic. Happy Birthday🎂

@deanrowles3665 6 ай бұрын

Hi again Andy, I am finally there with getting the PC working with the JK software, I have updated to the latest version aswell, after all the adapters I tried around 5, the one that worked for me was the industrial usb to rs485 with the FT232 FTDI chipped adapter from aliexpress,(pictured on your website) with drivers downloaded from FTDI website, which arrived this morning, Running on my Win10 laptop on usb 2.0, with version 2.4 JK software (would probably worked with 2.7 but 2.4 was what I had running on my laptop) my original firmware on my bms was V. 4.03 and now is 4.20, I used dip switch to 1000 and used the first port on the right hand side RJ45, for connection of the ethernet cable I used pin 1 (white/orange) on A and pin 2 (orange) on B and didn’t need the ground at all, sorry for the lengthy message, but I wanted to let anyone who may have been following my previous messages. Enjoy the SPATS and thanks for putting this video up for us struggling with connecting JK inverter bms, regards Dean Rowles in not so sunny UK 🇬🇧

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your donation recently🙏 At the end you can only try and especially with the cheaper adapters, they sometimes come with counterfeilt chips and drivers don't work correctly. Thanks for sharing, that is great help!

@deanrowles3665 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia you are more than welcome, stay charged

@gewoonandre 6 ай бұрын

Thanks again for the informative video! Last week i tried whole evening to get it working like this with an even cheaper usb-rs485 adapter. It only has super small A an B port, but yeah, for €2.95.... Recognized in windows, but no communication with the JK software at all. Checked with different cables, swopped A and B at the end, but no luck... Now bought the one with blue transparent housing for €6 and it works immediately! Connecting the BMS is indeed simple, but using an adapter for €2 was too good to be truth😂

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

I thought one of mine was even cheaper than $2. But yeah, you never know, could be a counterfeit chip as well and the driver didn't work correctly.

@angelu1366 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, As always your video is informative and most importantly understandable for beginners. I would love it if you did some videos on home automation, ESPHome and Home Assistant. The topic is vast and interesting for many users. Of course there are many videos on the subject, but unlike others, you make things understandable for beginners. Thank you for that.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback and suggestion. I really only use Home Assistant to display data, not really automate anything (apart form a few lights and pumps). Making videos about HA is very specific and and a bit off-topic for my channel. I'll see if I can make some in the future when it is related to the solar and battery topic.

@infurium 3 ай бұрын

Greetings Andy from sunny Florida USA (don't hold that against me!). I wanted to thank you for all of your videos and ESPECIALLY this one. I purchased a DIY kit that came with a JBD BMS for 16S LifePo4 batteries. I am completely new to battery packs and solar but I am addicted! I started off with this relatively simple DIY pack since it was a kit, and had good instructions from the seller. However there was ZERO information about the JBD BMS, even when installing it I struggled to find the actual part # because everything I thought was it would come back with nothing on Google. Anyways I saw this video and your BMS looks identical to mine only its a JBD not a JK (if there's even a difference). I had no idea what the ports were for (well I had an idea but no clue about the parallel and how to communicate with the BMS using computer software). I immediately went out and purchased one of the RS485 devices you showed and wired it up with an old ethernet cable just like in your video. At first I was having trouble communicating with the BMS, apparently JBD makes several versions or types of its software, none of them worked right, I tried the JK BMS and that did not pick up the BMS. So I went to the Ali-Express website and went to the official JBD webpage, from there I was able to download yet another varient of the software. This one looked a bit more promising when unzipped, many more files/folders. After some fiddling with it I was able to connect!! I had suspected that the values for high voltage cutoff were being set too low (3.3v) vs 3.5v. I remember manually charging the battery with an appropriate charger and then seeing the LCD screen showing I think around 3300mV give or take. I could have been wrong. However I think I'm right based on the parameters I could see in the BMS software. I made a change from 3.3 to 3.5 with a absolute cutoff voltage of 3.6. I also adjusted the maH to properly represent my batteries capacity. I am charging one up now to see if it does indeed charge the batteries to a nice full 3.5v instead of 3.3 if it works I will be wildly happy! I took a backup of the default configuration just in case. I want to thank you, without this video I would have never probably been able to connect to the BMS. Also thank you for your videos in general, your videos helped me learn how to wire up JK BMS's as well as I use them a lot. Keep up the great video's! Cheers mate!

@danielardelian2 6 ай бұрын

CH340 is a very common USB-to-Serial asynchronous (UART) communications converter. On the USB side, together with its Windows device driver, it emulates a COM port on a Windows computer. On the UART side, it works with both 3.3V and 5V TTL voltage levels for the RX / TX signals. Then they used another chip (e.g. MAX485) to convert from TTL levels to RS485 voltage levels. It can also be paired with a MAX232 to generate RS232 voltage levels.

@DavidPrue 6 ай бұрын

Exactly correct. I frequently use the MAX3485 or MAX3232 with ESP32s, 8266s or other 3.3V TTL level processors.

@deanrowles3665 6 ай бұрын

I tried 2 adapters with the CH340 chip and no matter what I did driver wise, neither worked for me, first time I tried FT232 chipped adapter it worked straight away

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed explanation, Daniel!

@user-cl7jo2oz8d 6 ай бұрын

You are a clearvoyant!! The adapter is the problem many guys have. Last week I bought to be prepared 5 different ones, nearly the same you tested. Thanks and greetings from former West-Berlin. Michael

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Well, one of them should at least work😄 All the best to the Hauptstadt

@m0nad539 2 ай бұрын

Kudos for the Gliedermaßstab ("Zollstock", folding rule) from Mühlheim a.d. Ruhr at 15:16 - Greetings from Germany ☀

@rcinfla9017 6 ай бұрын

There is not just one chip. First chip is USB to serial single ended like you would use for an RS232 port. There are several different chips for USB to serial, all do same thing but require different PC drivers. All drivers will usually install automatically as long as you have web connection to download driver. You have to look up the assigned COM port number.by your PC. The COM port assignment depends on what devices you have previously installed. Sometimes you need to check the assigned baud rate but the JK PC software likely defaults the setup to 9.6 kbps or 19.2 kbps. Second chip is the 8 pin SOIC which is usually MAX485 or Chinese clone of it. It takes in serial data and converts to RS485 two wire balanced data. Balanced line impedance for twisted pair is about 100 ohms impedance which is close to standard internet CAT5e, CAT6 cables which have four twisted pairs in one cable. For long lines and multiple RS485 devices connected, the first device and last device should have 120 ohm termination resistors to prevent data pulse reflections on cable that can corrupt data reception. Some USB to RS485 converters have the 120 ohm termination resistors across the twisted wire pair and some do not. Again, only the first device and last device in the string of connected devices should have the 120 ohm termination resistors. You can check across the two terminals with ohm meter to see if it measures about 100 ohms indicating the USB to RS485 converter has the termination resistor. This first and last termination rule also applied to multiple connected BMS's. The documents should say something about the last BMS in the string should get an RJ45 connector plugged into second RS485 port with a termination resistor in the RJ45 plug. The BMS communications is actually MODBUS protocol on top of RS485 twisted pair, balanced data for physical data link. On top of the MODBUS protocol is another protocol of the various inverter/BMS protocols which includes particular functional register location assignments, like where cell #3 voltage is stored and how to request a lowering of inverter's or charge controller's charging current to prevent an overvoltage cell shutdown by BMS.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the deep-dive and explanation.

@videogenie1236 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy The chip is a CH340 varient has shown in your device manager. Hence it is the chip 340E932 is the CH340

@Carsten-PV-DIY 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the adaptor solution and cabling chaos transparency. Good job. I am missing the Andy assi in front of the beer fridge. 😉😆😆😆

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Carsten. Andy2 is on holiday atm. Thank goodness😆

@Knightliner69 6 ай бұрын

Not the cheapest but I really like the Waveshare stuff. They have lots of interface converters in very good quality. Just recently add a RS232/485 to ethernet converter to my system and it works perfect to sit in my office and have running the BMS Computer Software running on my Desktop PC. I although added a 7“ Touch Display from them to my Victron Cerbo and it works perfect out of the box without any need to configure in the Venus OS. Just plug and play… A very good alternative display for the original Victron one and only around 50€ + some usb and hdmi cables 👍🙂

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. That is a very interesting project. Do you have a part list of what is needed? Happy to make a video if you send me an email with all the details.

@rodneyhrytsak3407 6 ай бұрын

does display timeout feature work on the waveshare?

@bendegroot8234 3 ай бұрын

CAn you psot the exact model you ordered!!

@jarosawnowotczynski69 6 ай бұрын

You are a cheerful, great guy. Greetings from Poland.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback my friend from Poland!

@stephsoltesz6731 6 ай бұрын

Great Stuff Andy, answering a lot of questions people have... One Thing you haven't Tested / Commented on : Have you tried these BMS with Diffirent Sized Packs linked together into a bank ? IE a 100AH with a 200AH & 300AH in parallel (or similar) to see how the BMS' interact & operate through the ranges and how will the BMS cope with that. There may be an "eye opener" lurking there.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I think i made quite a few videos about that already. A good one is this here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mM5zhsaUs9m1f6s.html

@matthewknight5641 6 ай бұрын

I guess I'm behind in times lol... I only got the older style JK a few months ago but they are working great. All 3 doing like they should as far as I can tell

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

You're not behind. The newer JK just has some additional features and communication. To achieve the same with your models, you would need some additional hardware to upgrade (like the Peter board)

@vp3319 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Andy, i learn in wikipedia, (not only) rs485 standart,(chinese arduino have same chip), is standart realy old, if chip right, no problems...(Thank You).

@SebastianHeld 6 ай бұрын

For a reliable communication (e.g. monitoring with dbus-serialbattery) you should connect GND. The cheap RS485 implementation inside the BMSs are not isolated and therefore are limited by their common mode (voltage) range. Because the BMSs are not isolated, the adapter used in the Victron system (or in the computer) must be an isolated type to prevent large ground currents.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

So far, I never had any issues without GND, so I kept it disconnected.

@Dutch_off_grid_homesteading 6 ай бұрын

Heya, just yesterday I ordered the jk BMS will be here in 7 - 14 days. still not ready testing all the cell's will keep you informed and want to upload it to YT

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Oh, great, you will be happy with the JK.

@Arjen46 6 ай бұрын

thanks again Andy, great stuff!!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@janbroz4681 4 ай бұрын

The middle connector is called RJ11

@sharetheadventure1 6 ай бұрын

That was a handy Video Andy! Well done.🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your feedback.

@EF-Electrics 6 ай бұрын

Very informative, thank you.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks.

@ElectricCarAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Andy. Another great video.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, Greg.

@rogereldridge8233 6 ай бұрын

I simply use the JK USB to RS485 .. all one piece. It one of the accessaries listed on their Ali Express JK Official site.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Does this connect to the new inverter board as well? I didn't have a look at this adapter...

@mandimandi2523 4 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia When you order at the minerals official store you can choose including the adapter or not (+11 $), when you order the JK-V4 battery box from EEL it is included.....

@alanblyde8502 6 ай бұрын

Beers coming your way Andy🍺🍺 thanks so much🇦🇺👌

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Alan, much appreciated! I've sent you an email.

@alanblyde8502 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia my pleasure

@alvarogsvk 6 ай бұрын

Great video!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@AAHH-z1o 13 күн бұрын

When you plug in the converters with CH340 chip, its name will be shown in Windows already. You don't need to tear it down :D

@fritzw9156 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your great Videos, i learn a lot ;-) liebe grüße vom Fritz aus Österreich

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot, Fritz. Great support. All the best from AU to A.

@alfreddobler8272 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Andy. I am using the DTK DRF2659C RS485 to Zigbee (wireless) converters to overcome issues with long RS485 cabling. Believe that the DRF2659C and DRF2658C (USB version) can be combined to convert from RS485 to USB over Zigbee.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Alfred. I wasn't aware that RS485 has long cable issues. I thought it was specifically designed for long distances...? I would not recommend using Bluetooth or even Zigbee for such time sensitive data transmission. Zigbee is not made for that and is very very slow.

@alfreddobler8272 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Andy. You are absolutely right, RS485 supports transmission over very long cable distances (up to 1200m). The reason why I am using Zigbee was the difficulty of installing a cable from the front of the house to the garage (separate building) around 30m away. Because of signal strength issues and WIFI interference, I am using a DRF2659C in a router mode in between the two end-points. The connection is slow but very reliable.

@gregfabian4655 6 ай бұрын

Andi, where is the kangaroo man?😂

@KrzysztofC-1 6 ай бұрын

ESP32 (with some software) connected to JK BMS over Bluetooth sending data to Home Assistant over WiFi is what I use.

@DavidPrue 6 ай бұрын

Exactly the same as me, I do it also with my Inverter (PowMr) via RS-232 (ESP32, MAX3232, and AMS1117) powered from the inverter's 12V async port. I do Grid AC Monitoring via a PZEM-016 connected via RS485 (ESP32, MAX3485, and AMS1117) powered from the PZEM's 5V output. Everything goes to Home Assistant (MQTT) via WiFi. Doesn't require any vendor specific websites to store (or lose) the data.

@rodneyhrytsak3407 6 ай бұрын

Is there a tutorial for this?

@user-fp1dy8rx4c Ай бұрын

@@DavidPruei have also powmr hvm pro 6.2 kwt model and i have older bms (black one with 2a balancer), use it with Syssi integration from Github over bluetooth, its works good. But i have questions did you use this new jk bms with Powmr communication over cable, and what protocol did you chose on inverter and bms?If its not supported by Powmr, can i just connect this bms to the battery and use this new bms without connecting to Powmr?Thank you

@DavidPrue Ай бұрын

@@user-fp1dy8rx4c Yes, you do not need to connect the BMS to the PowMr. I made an ESSP board with rs485 and async serial so that it can talk to both devices and update the inverter with up to date info about SOC etc.

@user-fp1dy8rx4c Ай бұрын

@@DavidPrue can you please David share some more information about an Essp board? How it works, and how to achieve communication between bms and Powmr. Seems like i have very similar setup to yours and the same goal. Thank you

@matthewknight5641 6 ай бұрын

I think you should replace the ones in the battery shelf with the older style JK.. the black one like you already have. They rock

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

I did!

@matthewknight5641 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia that's awesome Andy. The JK like in the battery shelf is the best I've ever known of.

@robert4027 6 ай бұрын

now we only need one point twenty one gigawatts of power into the Flux capacitor while traveling at 88.8 mph. 💪💪💪

@zoe..d 6 ай бұрын

We are a little past Nov 5, 1955....

@TradieTrev 6 ай бұрын

They most likely use a max485 chip with the ch340 chip as the serial to usb interface Andy.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Great, thank you.

@fredhoppe2286 6 ай бұрын

Sooooo…. I get the wiring 485 to usb to connect to PC. But will a rj45 cable( victron) not work out of the rs485 port of the jkbms and plug right into my cerbo and I have to splice the wires because the CAN H and CAN L pin orders are different in the jkbms Vs cerbo???

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Correct. You either need a Victron Type A cable or make your own by connecting the pins according to this document (www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:can-bus_bms-cable). A standard LAN cable will NOT work.

@azyk75 5 ай бұрын

JK it's simple. you don’t yet know how to connect the Felicity Solar BMS. This is a real challenge😁😉

@number40Fan 6 ай бұрын

What would happen if you were to connect both 1&8 plus 2&7 together at the USB adapter?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

You try it out and let us know😄

@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity 6 ай бұрын

Off grid for two years 47,000 W of PV, 250 kWh of batteries with JKBMS. none of them communicate with anything or anybody. They work just fine.

@TheRonskiman 6 ай бұрын

@@just_saw_dustif you want to survive winters sometimes even that amount of panels is not enough.

@HermitHippy 6 ай бұрын

Fark, that's a big system! I agree though, my bms doesn't talk to my inverter and it works just fine.

@TheRonskiman 6 ай бұрын

@@just_saw_dust I'm south east, and only have a small system with 8.74kW of panels, 8kW Quattro and 29kWh of batteries, BMS doesn't talk to the Victron system either. We do have a 50kW system where I work and I see just how badly that performs in the winter. In December it generated 735kWh, or average 23kWh a day, worse day though was 0.4kWh!!! So it seems a house with 47kW of panels and the amount of batteries the OP has could easily get by, but depends where they are and how much they use of course.

@Deiseboi 6 ай бұрын

Off grid in my haulage companies yard noting but trailers no toilet no water...but happily living 5 nights in my self built campervan...nearly 2 years.

@honumoorea873 6 ай бұрын

@@TheRonskimanlol...? You surely are an American to have this kind of vision of survival.

@Andreas13013 2 ай бұрын

Danke für die tolle Anleitung, bei mir hat es mit dem billigsten mit der blauen LED funktioniert

@jasontaverner2634 6 ай бұрын

nice job Andy. anyone on here got the new BMS working with SMA equipment? is SMA even currently supported?

@KernKern-cc7wi 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy Can I connect my old JK bms with new? In my garage 3 battery with old bms b1a20s15p, I want to buy new jk bms with new battery, but dont know can it work together? Or do I need to sell all my old boards and buy new ones

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

They will work together, no problem, just not from a communication side of things. We will have a solution for the communication in the near future.

@KernKern-cc7wi 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks

@hansenmoniquefilms 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, can tell me the connection between the Peter Board and the Victron Cerbo, witch can port ? the BMS-CAN or the VE-CAN, thx !!! love your comments

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Only the BMS CAN will work. Also plug in that terminator in the second port. Ve.CAN is only for Victron internal communication.

@jacdee7595 6 ай бұрын

Hey Andy was watching an old video of you building the battery shelf, where did you get those cool red bus bar stand offs from ? their so much simplers than the stand offs we had to use in PMG/ TELSTRA telephone exchanges!!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Hey, got them on my website. There is always a link under the video😉 off-grid-garage.com/electric-installation/

@facilitygamer5308 6 ай бұрын

Hello Andy do you have any idea how I can make a communication between jk bms and voltronic inverter ?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

You have to have a look in the Voltronic manual what communication standard they are using (RS485 or CAN) and what the pin-out is for this inverter. They are all different unfortunately.

@dumitruluca5119 6 ай бұрын

Hello, Andy. Do you advise interfacing the Raspberry Pi (with isolated CAN adapter) with the new JKBMS via CAN port? Thanks for your advice and the for the awesome work with the OGG!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thank you. Yes, that should work as well. I've connected the Pi and CAN hat with the Peter boards but it should also work with the JK Inverter-Boards directly.

@thahtay3717 6 ай бұрын

How to cabling with DALY BMS ?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

I've shown this here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa55n7Nj1LCXdIk.html

@JeanAguado-oj6il 2 ай бұрын

Hello Dan, Greetings from France. Thanks you for this cristal clear video. Do you have a solution to replace the Victron MK3-USB interface (VICTRON to PC USB)? It's sold here for more than 70 Euros!

@ekeretteekpo3004 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for this video. Although, I do have a question because there is a clarification that I was hoping to get but which didn't come as I had expected. Anyone who has experience with it can assist with the relevant information. My MPPT charge controller has a communication port tagged RS485 and I noticed that it looked quite like the popular RJ45 port for ethernet cable connection. Unfortunately, my PC does not have a RJ45 port as it is one of those slim laptops. I will need to get me a converter which is what led me to this video. Before I purchase what will not work for me, I would like to know if the RJ45 cable will work with the RS485 communication port of my charge controller. If it will work, then I can look around for a RJ45 to USB cable converter thingy. So, I would also like to know if this will work because the video shows him using what looks like a RJ45 cable connection with the RS485 port on the inverter (I think) but still uses a RS485 to USB converter. If the RJ45 plug and cable can transmit from the device, wouldn't that directly work for the PC (and the BMS software) by just plugging the other RJ45 end to the RJ45 port of the PC? Why did you have to cut one side off, peel the wires and plug particular strands instead? Pardon my noobness. I wouldn't want to make a wrong purchase of items and then commit a painful mistake. Another question: is there a generic software for MPPT charge controller monitoring? Unfortunately, I can't reach out to the manufacturer in my own case because the seller delivered a generic looking MPPT box, although it seems to work as expected, based on all the information I have consumed around MPPT charge controllers and their battery charging work. Ordinarily, I would have reached out to the manufacturers to help with further clarification and information accordingly. Thanks to everyone.

@konstantine381 4 ай бұрын

I messaged JK and they said that the bms works with growatt CAN. Im really hoping it does because the seplos v2 is a nightmare for me.

@cybostampile4308 Ай бұрын

hello, I have 2 SE-G5.1Pro-B batteries, can you please tell me how to communicate with the computer, through which type of adapter, which application do you recommend; I understand that the connection between the master battery and the computer is made through the 485 / IN port

@marcorobbe9003 4 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, danke für all deine Videos 🧡. Ich habe eine Frage, die sicher auch irgendwo in deinen Infos vergraben ist, ich aber nicht gefunden habe. Es gibt das Thema mit dem Ground trennen bei den Victron-Systemen. Wie schaut das bei der Kombi mit dem JK BMS und Victron aus. Wo / wie muss hier auf die Trennung der Masse geachtet werden. Könntest Du mir da eine Info zu geben - oder wo ich die finde? Vielleicht wäre es auch mal wieder ein aktuelles Video wert - die Gesamtverdrahrung / Übersicht deines Systems. Lieben Dank, Marco Hi Andy, thanks for all your videos . I have a question that I'm sure is buried somewhere in your info, but I haven't found it. There is the issue of ground isolation with the Victron systems. What does this look like for the combination with the JK BMS and Victron? Where / how must the ground be separated? Could you give me some information on this - or where can I find it? Perhaps it would also be worth making an updated video - the overall wiring / overview of your system. Many thanks, Marco

@chuxxsss 6 ай бұрын

Are you doing this for Peter? Beautiful hot day here today. Sunday is a hotter day, 39 degrees C. Hope the rain is coming.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

For Peter? I'm doing this for you😉

@chuxxsss 6 ай бұрын

@OffGridGarageAustralia I need to connect to his patron to buy two forms batteries.

@edwardvanhazendonk 6 ай бұрын

Andy, thanks for testing. Question is the JK BMS monitor also working with the old style BMSes? Would be great if we can adjust them via RS 485 instead of Bluetooth. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work down under!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Hi Edward, that will not work. The software on the PC will only communicate with the new style inverter BMS. For the DB series of inverters you have to use BT.

@edwardvanhazendonk 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks Andy👍

@TheJokkes12 3 ай бұрын

And with b2a bms works?

@syedafaqahmed10824 Ай бұрын

NEED YOUR HELP. i have bought JK BD6A20S10P BMS from Ali express few months before & asemble a 16 cell battery & now i want to communicate BMS with My invertor ( Solax X1-Hybrid-LV),please suggest me the accessaries .

@user-cl7jo2oz8d 6 ай бұрын

Danke!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your great support!🍺👍

@jojofamilie 6 ай бұрын

Hey Andy @OffGridGarageAustralia where it is nice and Sunny. :) CAN is not working here, could anyone point me? :) Good video as always!!! Though i want to mention that i was missing the JK BMS test with the CAN connection and that was the part i was looking for to see if i am missing something in my setup. I watched multiple videos of you about the CAN topic, but i cannot find my situation and problem, and i am looking for the solution. I hope you or anyone else can shine a light on it, or perhaps i found a bug? I am connecting the raspberri PI Venus OS through the CAN hat with the JK BMS on pins 4 and 5 and the right RJ45 port (the CAN port) as per your explanation and it just does not work. In comparison if i connect the same raspberri PI Venus OS through the CAN hat with the Victron MPPT on pins 7 and 8 it works fine without any issue. Now let me give you some connectiondata background as well: In both situations, with the MPPT and the JK BMS i see in Venus OS the settings->services->can0->network status mentioned as ACTIVE and i can see the RX and TX packets going up. In that same screen in both situations no overruns, error packets or dropped packets. As far as i can tell, everything from a hardware and packet perspective works fine. However the Venos OS refuses to see the JK BMS, but it does see the MPPT when connected through CAN. Furthermore this connection does: The Venus OS does see the JK BMS when i connect them both through bluetooth with the driver from Louis, however bluetooth is not reliable and gives often disconnects, so i want a CAN connection between the Venus OS and the JK BMS. My setup: - 1x Victron Multiplus II, 5000, 230V - 1x Victron MPPT 450/100 - 1x Victron Smartshunt - 32x LFP 280 Ah cells (currently connected only 16cells, to make it work) - 2x BMS of JK-PB2A16S20P (currently connected only 1, to make it work) - 1x RS485 CAN BUS Module HAT Expansion Board for Raspberry Pi (from your website) - 1x Raspberri PI with Venus OS large. Now i see in your videos you test the CAN situation with a different JK-BMS, could that be the difference? Could it be that only the version i am having has this issue? Thank you for reading and hope to see a video with a solution soon or a text reply from anyone. Both will work fine!

@dumitruluca5119 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. I am also interested in finding the solution for my future setup, too. As far as I remember, Andy connected the BMS with the Cerbo via CAN and it worked! No clue about Raspi, however.

@jojofamilie 6 ай бұрын

Well the thing is that the CAN connection from my Raspi works with Victron equipment without issue. It is the JK BMS that gives me the issue. Hopefully there will be a reaction from Andy or someone else who has figured out howto properly connect those 2.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Have you ensured the JK-BMS has the right CAN Protocol set in the settings? CAN setting needs to be on 4 for Victron.

@jojofamilie 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia yes i have tried different CAN protocol settings in the JK-BMS, including the Victron one. I will try some things out, with specifically only the Victron option selected and get back to tell the outcome and what i bump up against during the journey.

@Handy-Harry 6 ай бұрын

Since I don't have a Cerbo (yet) but a Raspberry Pi with MK3 interface, is it possible to connect the BMS to the VE.Can of my Multiplus?

@hamidkhatri 5 ай бұрын

Hey andy, I have been watching your videos for a while to build my own DIY lifepo4 battery. I have ordered 8 cells to build a 24v battery. I want to use it with 3.2kw Solar inverter, with brand name 'Inverex' a chinese brand, which i bought 4 years ago. The inverter has usual Rj45 port (on manual, which supports Rs485 and Can bus). Now i am looking for a BMS which can communicate with my inverter. I have selected JK B2A8S20P with CAN bus port. Do you think this BMS can communicate with my inverter? Like using rj45 cable on inverter and on other side, rs485 or Can connector on BMS? Kindly guide.

@egbertegberts5384 6 ай бұрын

Devices with a CH340 chip inside always list the chip name in the device driver name in the device Manager screen. No need to disassemble😅

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Yes, correct, I realised this while editing😆

@TheFisher012 6 ай бұрын

Can i connect 10 jk inverter bms in parallel and after to one inverter? The inverter will se all 10bms? Thank you :)

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Yes, you can parallel all 10 JK BMS. The inverter will only see the master BMS which aggregates all data from the 9 slave BMS.

@JarosawHuba 6 ай бұрын

Hi. I bought JK inverter BMS in December and 4.3 display from different suppliers. But display came without metal circle screws to mount it. I think Andy also get displays without them. They are necessary to mount display in XR07-48V280AH Power Box LiFePO4 from AliExpress and should be in display package box. Any advice? Where I can buy them separately?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

I didn't buy any displays for my JKs (yet). Can you not use any screws to mount it. Not 100% sure what screws you're talking about though...

@mandimandi2523 4 ай бұрын

they are normally included. on one side is a special insert to fix in the backside of the LCD (2 flat hooks), the other side looks like a gearwheel 30mm diameter. Where do you live?

@mandimandi2523 4 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia he is talking about the "screws" of the 4.3" LCD. they should have been also attached to your JK-4.3 LCD. Come in a silvery plastic bag. on one side is a special insert (look like two flat hooks) to fix in the backside of the LCD, the other side looks like a gearwheel of 30mm in diameter.

@steve01cor92 5 ай бұрын

Hi Andy I always follow you, I purchased the jk pb2a16s200a, obviously I have yet to receive it, it's on its way, but I wanted to ask you to manage the software needed, the RJ45 interface (there are really many types) and the USB interface or a network cable could be fine normal? another question is; What does the term 20A current limiter mean in the JK? you will have understood that I am a layman and besides, a retired metalworker manager we cannot have learned everything. good day from Italy greetings Stefano

@mandimandi2523 4 ай бұрын

when you purchased the pb series, some dealers offer it including the right cable (chip)...

@sanketghadage3201 4 ай бұрын

I have JK BMS of "JK B2A24S20P". I am trying to decide the CAN of it. I facial issue. Can anyone will help me ?

@marekc8654 3 ай бұрын

What about Victrons RS485 to USB (one used for energy meters). Has anyone tried it. It would save me buying additional adapter.

@RT-qe8se 5 ай бұрын

For some reason 6000xp to Jk inverter BMS CAN communication is not working properly, both set to Pylon. Any suggestions?

@blacko3539 6 ай бұрын

Looking for a decent source for a battery box + accessories for to install a JK in. All the one I seem to find come with seplos BMS already.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Got the EEL DIY Battery box with JK-Inverter BMS linked on my website: off-grid-garage.com/diy-kits/

@Koernell 5 ай бұрын

Can anybody explain which connector to use between the jk bms CAN and the raspberry usb port? Any of shown adapters, the victron mk3 to usb or anything else?

@jducifjendn9085 5 ай бұрын

It seems like a lot of people in the comments are using the JK Inverter BMS here. Does someone know if it does also support the pylontech can bus protocoll? If yes it should be able to communicate with the same inverters as the seplos bms, right? thanks for answers in advance.

@olavolu 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, could you make a video with the same level of explanation for connecting the EBC-A20 to the computer? I've already connected mine, but sometimes it connects and sometimes it doesn't. In addition to losing connection in the middle of the test. I use Windows 10.

@coryfrey5040 6 ай бұрын

@olavolu order yourself a ADuM3160 USB isolator. I had the same issue, I'm currently testing my 10th cell without a single disconnect.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

There you go...

@upper_deck 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, for the test you used a battery monitor. Is this the one from SEPLOS which you can be downloaded from your Google-Drive, or does it come from JK?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

The JK BMS will only work with the JK Battery Monitor software. Seplos is different.

@upper_deck 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia Can you provide the link for the JK Battery Monitor?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

@@upper_deck All resources are on my website. Have a look under the JK Inverter BMS here. There are the links to firmware, documents and also mobile and PC apps: off-grid-garage.com/battery-management-systems-bms/

@George-6125 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, have you tested with JK PB2A16S20P as well? For me, it only connects with JK-BMS-Monitor 2.1.0 and not all options are functional. At the manufacturer you have no one to talk to, they only answer what they want to answer. I have another problem with this model, from time to time, without my intervention, it warns of a short circuit and restarts the multiplus ll because the voltage suddenly drops to 35V. If I look at the Lynx shunt log at that time the current is 4-5 A., This is a false alarm I think, Have you faced such errors? If you have a support contact from JK please share it with me. Thank you, George

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

It's Chinese new year at the moment. Most companies are closed. They will answer it after the 20. Feb hopefully. Get the latest software from my website off-grid-garage.com/battery-management-systems-bms/

@solarshedenterprise 6 ай бұрын

Assuming you can just use the network port on your PC to communicate with the BMS?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Nope, the BMS does not communicate via LAN. It's the same phisical port (RJ45) but totally different communication.

@Olivierus 6 ай бұрын

Thanks, where do you find the drivers, I have 2 different cables but none of them load the prolific drivers in windows, making them useless…

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

You have to look for the specific drivers online if Windows does not recognise them itself.

@offgridwithpojectham 6 ай бұрын

Yo Yo Andy!

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

What's up?!

@KoiAquaponics 6 ай бұрын

Ok, so how do I connect 8 JK bms to 3 EG4 6000xp inverters?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

You follow the instructions for the JK BMS and your inverter manufacturer.

@Vinc3nzo87 2 ай бұрын

which cable to connect the bms to the voltronic inverter?

@OffGridGarageAustralia 2 ай бұрын

That depends on your inverter model and what pins it uses for RS485 or CAN. Have a look in the manual of your inverter under communication. It should be described there.

@Vinc3nzo87 2 ай бұрын

my inverter rs485 what protocol in inverter voltronic?

@ValentineFarm 6 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, What are the white and black numbers of the door? 🤔

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Subscribers... when I hit 75.000

@ValentineFarm 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia makes sense, thank you for answering. Also, Thank you for all the videos you make they are amazing. ☺️

@jawata58 5 ай бұрын

Hey I have an older JK_B2A8S20P and B2A20S20P and a trying to get data from de GPS port with PL2303 TA USB TTL RS232 Converter, but no succes , I can sent data, but nothing in return in the JKBMS app, has anyone succeeded and with wich (chipset) converter?

@patrickruiz6764 6 ай бұрын

Merci Andy mais tu parle pas du logiciel 2.7.022 qui est bad !!!

@sabeergo8033 6 ай бұрын

Hi Victron Mulitiplus ii 24 5000va 120amp with 600ah battery solar panel RV use Best option demo video plz

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

I don't have any 24V equipment.

@cskeise 6 ай бұрын

💙👊😎

@tigerhill2893 6 ай бұрын

Hi the moment I connect the usb to computer is behaves weirdly , the mouse keeps moving on its own and desktop becomes unstable, I am using wave share , is this a driver issue where can I get a driver ?

@mickm68 6 ай бұрын

the Waveshare that Andy demonstrated is not isolated. The symptoms with your computer behaving weirdly is likely a ground loop. Replace your adaptor to one which has isolation - don't replace and in the worst case the magic smoke can come out of one or more devices. Some of the WS adaptors are isolated. Unfortunately i can't link due to FB preventions. In short the ones with 'industrial' are not the type you are after, you need to look for galvanic isolation keywords.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

You can try and connect the ground as well.

@ellingolsen3194 6 ай бұрын

Cheap USB to RS485 converters claiming to have an FTDI or Prolific chip always have counterfeit chips. By cheap I mean a couple of US$ or less. Those with genuine chips will cost close to 10 US$. If I don't need a converter with a serial number, I usually go for one having a CH340 chip. Those with fake Prolific chips won't work with Windows. Also, if you buy two, they will both have the same serial number. Those with fake FTDI chips work, but if you buy two you will find they have the same serial number.

@ellingolsen3194 6 ай бұрын

@@BobDevV The cheap "Prolific" adapters don't work in Windows because the driver from Prolific identifies a non Prolific chip. Also, these cheap "Prolific" adapters hangs after a while and must be removed and reinserted. The cheap "FTDI" adapters did not work in Windows some years ago and for the same reason. The FTDI driver identified a non FTDI chip. The prospective customers made so much noise that FTDI backed down and allowed the driver to work with counterfeit chips. I purchased a cheap adapter with a FT232RL chip in it. It did not have a unique serial number and the utility FT_Prog from FTDI did not recognize the chip. I unsoldered the FT232RL chip and soldered in an FT232RL chip from a reputable distributor. Then it had a unique serial number and FT_Prog recognized the chip. Counterfeit chips are a huge problem with Chinese vendors. There is a mountain of evidence. I needed adapters with unique serial numbers and I had to pay for adapters with genuine parts. I also got reliable adapters.

@ellingolsen3194 6 ай бұрын

@@BobDevV My reply keeps being deleted. Unbelievable! Stop doing that! The cheap "Prolific" adapters don't work in Windows because the driver from Prolific identifies a non Prolific chip. Also, these cheap "Prolific" adapters hangs after a while and must be removed and reinserted. The cheap "FTDI" adapters did not work in Windows some years ago and for the same reason. The FTDI driver identified a non FTDI chip. The prospective customers made so much noise that FTDI backed down and allowed the driver to work with counterfeit chips. I purchased a cheap adapter with a FT232RL chip in it. It did not have a unique serial number and the utility FT_Prog from FTDI did not recognize the chip. I unsoldered the FT232RL chip and soldered in an FT232RL chip from a reputable distributor. Then it had a unique serial number and FT_Prog recognized the chip. Counterfeit chips are a huge problem. There is a mountain of evidence. I needed adapters with unique serial numbers and I had to pay for adapters with genuine parts. I also got reliable adapters.

@MsNVvK 6 ай бұрын

A bit off-topic: I have two "old" style JK BMS 8s 200 Amp. (In silver frame.) from 2023. These originally worked fine for couple of months, but were disconnected for several weeks, and completely removed from the battery. Reconnected recently and tried to restart with the button - that went OK - but the app but all possible passwords failed to be recognized. 1234 or 0000 or 123456 etc. None of them worked. BT connection visible, but i was not able to log-in monitoring screen, let alone the settings screen. Contacted local supplier here in Netherlands, and he managed to get a temporary password from JK China - valid for one hour....(!) pfft... In the end I managed to blow some life in de JK's again without this temporary password. Procedure: 1. Disconnect BMS completely from battery and wait for 5 minutes. 2. Remove JK BMS app and reinstall on phone. 3. Reconnect all cells and negative to BMS again, push startbutton immediately after that. 4. Password for pairing 1234 - that worked ! 5. Use previous set password to log in advanced settings Quite a few people on internet seem to have had the same problems. Maybe this helps....

@ellingolsen3194 6 ай бұрын

@@BobDevV You are a troll

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

One password (1234) is only for the Bluetooth connection, the other password is set in the BMS itself, so nobody else with the app can connect to your BMS and change settings (a must for camping batteries!)

@offgrid2010 5 ай бұрын

Does anyone have this working in Linux?

@AndymitUepsilon 6 ай бұрын

Hättest nicht aufmachen müssen, das steht im Treiber was für Chips verbaut ist. Das dritte Interface ist ein ch340 chip

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Sometimes it does in deed! But not always😎

@cyberplebs6577 6 ай бұрын

🐸🐸🐸

@paulcurtis5496 6 ай бұрын

Like# 162 - phone is getting a new battery... I really do NOT like adapters... So much so, I won't use an adapter...

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

no Firmware updates for you then, Paul.

@paulcurtis5496 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia I actually have one for my Growatt that I’m not willing to do because the last time I tried to update it, it bricked it self and I was without power for 3 days while they shipped me an updated motherboard… They didn’t believe it was bricked until I sent it back to them… 🙄 they insisted it wasn’t possible to brick it…

@janbws 6 ай бұрын

Mojne

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Moin!

@jo8ephthomas 6 ай бұрын

Hiya

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

👋🙋‍♂️

@mosfetkiller3851 6 ай бұрын

dont drink to much. ;)

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Never!

@firefly2472 25 күн бұрын

Nah, thank you.

@Sebastian_Ba 6 ай бұрын

Wieder ein tolles Video Andy! Does anyone contacted JK and get an answer? I contacted them several times via whatsapp, they read the messages but don't reply.

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

It is Chinese new year at the moment and most companies have closed for 2 weeks.

@joramotorsportteam3277 6 ай бұрын

HELLO! WE NEED 200V BMS. Please send contacts!!

@KernKern-cc7wi 6 ай бұрын

@OffGridGarageAustralia 6 ай бұрын

Ever battery can have a different BMS. They can even have slightly different settings. It will all work. That's what I had in my battery shelf for years. What will not work though, is the communication to your inverter. For this, you will need some sort of other solution, like the Peter boards...

@KernKern-cc7wi 6 ай бұрын

@@OffGridGarageAustralia good device, need to order, thanks

@offgrid2010 5 ай бұрын

Does anyone have this working in Linux?