How to Check Caster and Pinion angle on your Jeep or Truck

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How to Check Caster and Pinion angle on your Jeep or Truck

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@markbellger8945 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I need to check mine, have a 2” lift and it’s flighty now

@billsmith1846 2 ай бұрын

Same issue here.

@pauljordan756 4 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT description on how to check caster and where it should run! new subscriber here! THANK YOU

@peterhinton 7 ай бұрын

Thanks heaps! That was very helpful. I'm fairly certain that my caster angles are different between sides. Got an awful pull to the left, ATM. Hope to correct it this afternoon using this video.

@joshfig96 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2003 grand cherokee laredo, with a 2.5 lift, stock driveshafts and control arms 98k miles and what should it be? I get a bad vibration at 60 and I'm looking into the driveshaft and peaked my interest because just last week i started hearing a ujoint click, if I'm on a flat surface doing 60-70 nothing, hit a bump i feel the vibration you get before death wobble occurs but it's not deathwobble.. when i coast from 70, the vibration gets worse as it slows down and goes away at 45, then back at 55 the vibration occurs, let the jeep sit and rest and the problem is gone.. i don't know what gives me more of a headache, my girlfriend or my jeep..

@tb77073 9 ай бұрын

BDR road trips in the vintage Cherokee!

@chrislorenz4468 Жыл бұрын

Found your old video thanks for the info

@andyrenteria4676 3 ай бұрын

I wonder if u can help me , I have a wj with 6 inch lift , I don’t know what my caster angle need to be

@jasonf1340 4 жыл бұрын

I just took mine to get a alignment after putting a new tie rod in. Their telling me my tires have a slight toe inward their saying it’s because I don’t have adjustable ball joints. But said mine are not worn out. I wanted to ask you before I went out a bought what they’re telling me is the problem

@MCLIFE786 2 жыл бұрын

I installed teraflex tierod and draglink but seems like the draglink is longer cuz I can’t centered my steering thru the adjustment sleeve on the draglink to make the draglink shorter sleeve is max in. Do u know why is that?

@fitzmeister5992 4 жыл бұрын

Well done.

@user-cm9uh6sj7n 5 жыл бұрын

quite a good video pinion angle is a great way to describe castor their relationship to each makes castor understandable I could make a video to show should I

@jahnkaplank8626 3 жыл бұрын

so a negative caster angle, or too small a caster angle, is what causes the death wobble, right?

@woof3598 Жыл бұрын

I went out and bought the plastic one to recheck my caster after a 3 1'2 lift......just to hard to read, IMHO buy the 30 dollar electric one and save your self some time and fustration

@RetreatHacker Жыл бұрын

Are you on perfectly level ground?

@luisreyes-dk4vb 6 жыл бұрын

Hey bud, great video. I just install a 4.5 inch long arm on a 2001 xj. Stock Dana 30 and stock driveshaft. What should my caster be in relation to my pinion?

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Been a while since I messed with XJs, but on a xj you’ll want the pinion angle to be pretty good with the driveshaft. So you’ll probably be around 3* and 3*

@jafranswa 3 жыл бұрын

do you by chance know if the pinion to caster separation is the 6 degrees on a tj dana 44 front?

@dalemelton1634 4 жыл бұрын

Do you adjust for cross caster at all

@philfox9059 4 жыл бұрын

Great video!! New to your channel. I have jk 2008 and 6 inch rough country lift. On 37s everything still stock. What would be my best angle for caster? And drive shaft angle?

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

The 6” lift is hurting you. Your best bet is to try to get it around 4* caster

@leegomez9356 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! What would you recommend for my setup. I am running 37's, RK adustable mid arms upper and lower, rock jock 44 , psc steering, lift is between 5 - 5 1/2, king coilovers. I look foward to your reply 🤙👍

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

What driveshaft?

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

What is your current caster and pinion angle?

@sethlonmier5657 6 жыл бұрын

My caster is around 3? Is that too low? I don’t have adjustable control arms

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Yes that’s a little low, your best bet is adjustable lower arms or drop brackets!

@richthevirtuoso 2 жыл бұрын

Sway bar.... kinda high looking?

@JacobEcret Жыл бұрын

so is the 10 degrees fine for the caster? for the 0 pinion. ive read some other peoples posts, and they say pay a little more attention to pinion angle. and the caster will follow.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

It all depends on your lift height and driveshaft type. You can’t have a 0* pinion angle on a tall lifted jeep otherwise you’ll get driveline vibrations. What axle you do have?

@Manny92284 4 жыл бұрын

It has been about a year since I started following you. I'm just going through your videos and I can't find one for your rock ram hydro assist. Did you make a video for that install? BTW great videos and content on all of them.

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

I actually did not. I really want to try to make a video sometime, And I need to change some things up, so hopefully I’ll do that soon

@rogermayne1072 4 жыл бұрын

I know it's an old video but I can't find what my angle should be. I have a zj and added 3in lift, have front and rear adjustable top and bottom arms, if you still read comments can you help me out? Thanks

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

Add as much caster as you can, pinion angle will decrease. So find the good mix between good caster before you get front end vibrations.

@keithlargy8230 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@cherrycokeamazing15 5 жыл бұрын

HELP!! So I just bought a zj with stock axle in the front with a 4in rough country lift, but it’s got non adjustable upper a arms, the guy removed the front driveshaft for “vibration” if I get adjustable uppers in the front and set the arms should it fix this problem?

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

Yes! But depends on which way the axle needs to go, if the pinion needs to point up more then get uppers, if the pinion needs rotated down then get lowers

@cherrycokeamazing15 5 жыл бұрын

JK Gear and Gadgets Thanks so much for the quick reply! I definitely will go with the upper! One more quick question, is shims needed on the transfer case???

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

Alex Scott tcase drop brackets can help if you are having rear vibrations

@flynnmogan 6 жыл бұрын

looking to get new lower arms I am running 2 and 4 degrees right now would I need to get new uppers to correct it or just lowers?

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

At a minimum you need front lowers. What type of vehicle are we talking about?

@flynnmogan 6 жыл бұрын

JK Gear and Gadgets jeep jk 2dr 2016

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Yep. Front lowers will allow you to change your caster angles. Both uppers and lowers just give you more ability to move the axle. But lowers if anything

@flynnmogan 6 жыл бұрын

JK Gear and Gadgets so just adjust the lowers to the eye to eye length of what I have now and I will be fine... even tho I have relocation brackets I can’t measure it from the actual axle mount eye to frame mount. Thanks again for the help I’m lookin at rubicon express or some jks arms

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Yep. And you could even adjust them a tad longer to get more caster if you want. Honestly I would avoid the RE control arms

@jesus_5848 6 жыл бұрын

Go team rugged!!

@sjwalker5696 2 жыл бұрын

What's your paint code on that jeep I like that color

@stanmaly4211 Жыл бұрын

Man me too. Looks great

@kylewesner24 6 жыл бұрын

Go Team Rugged!!!

@alfonsoovalle9055 4 жыл бұрын

How should the rear one looks like? Should the pinion angle be in line with the driveshaft? Or should have some differentiation?

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

It should be in line with the driveshaft depending on what jeep/rear driveshaft you have.

@alfonsoovalle9055 4 жыл бұрын

JK Gear and Gadgets is an Adam Drive shaft 1310, jk 2009 rubicon stock axle and yoke for the TC and pinion

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

Alfonso Ovalle yes the rear pinion angle should be in line with the drivehast

@clifblake Жыл бұрын

I'm checking my caster.It looks like Im at 10 degrees, from a local 4x4 shop that just set it up. It's wondering left to right going down the road. If I understand it right, I need 4-6 degrees? The math comes out, as I measure the pinion at 4 degrees. That puts me at a difference of 6 degrees on my Gladiator.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

There is only 6* of separation on the stock axle. If your pinion is at 4* then you have 2* of caster which is horrible

@clifblake Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets sounds like I don't understand 6 degrees of separation yet. I can't be measuring correctly. I'm getting a caster measurement of 8-9, and a pinion of 1-2 degrees. Ill watch more videos to try and see what IM doing wrong.

@JKGearandGadgets Жыл бұрын

Stock Or aftermarket axle?

@clifblake Жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets It's stock, and I was wrong on the 10 degrees. Thank you for always responding to help. I appreciate that !

@jimmyr1683 3 жыл бұрын

Can I make my passenger front lca slighty longer to compensate for the crown on roads? My JL pulls right constantly

@JKGearandGadgets 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, just don’t add too much length, just very slight

@jimmyr1683 3 жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets thx

@shelbyparr1897 6 жыл бұрын

Go team rugged 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@12archer13 4 жыл бұрын

Im running a 4.5in lift with fully adjustable control arms with adams front and rear drive shafts. should i be focused on dialing my caster back to 5 or 6 if it isn't? I had it adjusted a while ago, but I hadn't upgraded my rear ds at the time.

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a mix of caster and pinion angle, add as much caster as you can without getting pinion angle vibrations. With a 4.5” lift you will probably max out around 4-4.5* caster

@12archer13 4 жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets thanks for the tip! Beast of a channel and information you put out!!

@clos1764 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I have a 3.5 lift with front adj upper control arms. OEM Dana 30. I bought this tool and will check tomorrow. What would be ideal caster for me?

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Stock Driveshaft?

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

If so then I would try to get to around 4*

@dantefelipe2728 4 жыл бұрын

What if you have a aftermarket drive shaft?

@corey7348 2 жыл бұрын

@@dantefelipe2728 have to be carful how much change pinion angle with oem driveshaft they cant handle it

@devinscott5988 6 жыл бұрын

Go TEAM RUGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@buddiedog08 6 жыл бұрын

would you mind to help me out I have a wj jeep lifted 4'' with adjustable uppers and lowers can you tell me what i should be set at..I have the digital locator just like yours,,,do you recommend that tool or using the gauge thanks..factory axels

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Either one works! What are you currently at?

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

With a 4” lift you will probably want to be around -3 to -4* caster.

@buddiedog08 6 жыл бұрын

JK Gear and Gadgets so that puts me at 2 on pinion

@buddiedog08 6 жыл бұрын

JK Gear and Gadgets I was told to set it at a positive 6

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, or go 3 and 3, but see what your at now

@leegomez9356 5 жыл бұрын

I'm running a 4.0 to 4.5 lift not 100% sure though. Dana 30 for now on 37s with rk adjustable arms upper and lowers what would u recommend I be at?? Thank you.

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

Stock driveshaft? I would shoot for around 4 degrees as a starting point

@leegomez9356 5 жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets Adam's double carden

@leegomez9356 5 жыл бұрын

Would 6 be too much with the Adam's double carden

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

Lee Gomez yes that would be too much.

@leegomez9356 5 жыл бұрын

@@JKGearandGadgets thnx for the input going to try 4.5

@derekhartman6600 6 жыл бұрын

Go team rugged

@gregoryhowell 6 жыл бұрын

Go team rugged.

@adonygomez4705 6 жыл бұрын

GO TEAM RUGGED!

@dhruvdhall7255 2 жыл бұрын

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@AZWESTSIDEWHEELERS 6 жыл бұрын

Go team Rugged

@acoustix6 6 жыл бұрын

Go Team Rugged

@joebishop7909 6 жыл бұрын

GO TEAM RUGGED

@billsmith1846 2 ай бұрын

Wife won't ride with me till i get the thing driving straight. Thank you

@timleonard86 Ай бұрын

Was the math wrong there on dana 30 a few times?

@JKGearandGadgets Ай бұрын

what do you mean?

@beauch112 6 жыл бұрын

I'm running a 3" EVO lift with lower adj control arms. I put in the Adams 1310 driveshaft and just put new 37" Yokos which smoothed out the ride a lot! I am still getting a little bit of vibration. Not much, but I'm trying to dial it in. My CAs are as short as I can get them. My pinion angle is at 0. My caster is 6.5 degrees. My driveshaft is at about a 5 degree upward angle. Any thoughts on what I could do to eliminate the last of the vibration? I have the Steer Smarts Yeti track bar, draglink, and steering stabilizer.

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Did the vibration start when you got the new shaft? If you are running the factory front axle then 6.5* caster is too much, actually puts your pinion angle at -.5*. Since your arms are as short as they can get then you can’t make any more pinion angle adjustments. My recommendations are this: remove shaft to verify you are getting a shaft related vibe, make sure the yokes to the axle and tcase are torqued to correct spec, get adjustable upper control arms and set them longer than stock in order to bring your pinion angle up untill the vibes stop, then play around to get a good caster/no vibe medium.

@beauch112 6 жыл бұрын

Yes that's when it started. One of my buddies recommended that I take the shaft off. I did, there was no vibration, so I'm sure that's what is causing it. I re-took measurements last night. My caster is actually 6 degrees, maybe leaning towards 5.5* and pinion is 0*. The angle on the TC is 0* as well, so the shaft should be turning at the same speed since the angles are even on both sides. When I had the shaft off, I re-torqued the large yoke nut, and the other four bolts. The rep from Adams mentioned I might have to get adjustable uppers.I was hoping to avoid that lol. I'm nitpicking here since the vibration is so minor, but I can feel it just a little right under my feet when I'm driving. I guess the next box to check is getting the upper CA's and see what happens. Thanks for replying so fast!

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would do the uppers, while the vibration might be minimal and not bother you too much, it can eventually lead to failure of your tcase output bearings.

@beauch112 6 жыл бұрын

Okay sounds good. I guess I'm gonna piss the wife off with another Jeep order!!! Thanks for the help!

@beauch112 6 жыл бұрын

Okay I just installed a pair of Rock Krawler adjustable uppers. The vibration is mostly gone! However, I am pulling to the left pretty bad now, so I took caster angle measurements and I'm at -4* on the drivers side and positive 3.5* on the passenger side. With the lowers it was pretty straight forward how to adjust. With the uppers, I'm not sure. I know it's damn near impossible without looking at it, but any ideas?

@WATCHTHISSHITCARCLUB 6 жыл бұрын

Go team rugged!

@joshcampbell3948 4 жыл бұрын

Your not specifing negative caster or positive caster when mentioning numbers at all

@JKGearandGadgets 4 жыл бұрын

Positive. Titled back.

@johneaton9457 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you see this, Im having a tough time. I have RC 3.5” lift I just bought and installed RC lower adjustable control arms. Obviously experiencing death wobble. What should my caster and pinion angles be? Can I adjust when jeep has tires on and on ground? Or do I need have jeep on stands?

@corey7348 2 жыл бұрын

did you do drop pitman arm and are your trac bar bushings good usually 75 percent of the time its trac bar related

@franciscotavarez4138 5 жыл бұрын

Jks toll me only nesesary with factory amas ,,,,

@alexanderdavila4087 4 жыл бұрын

I need to get my drivers license

@edc4lyfe445 6 жыл бұрын

Go team rugged OIIIIIIIO

@mariobezares4897 5 жыл бұрын

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@torres3860 2 жыл бұрын

Uh! Umm!

@JKGearandGadgets 2 жыл бұрын

Yep! Super old video before I was used to filming myself. Not sure what to say

@torres3860 2 жыл бұрын

Lol it’s good content though keep it up 👍

@ishikawa1338 6 жыл бұрын

40$ craftsmen bubble.level...

@JKGearandGadgets 6 жыл бұрын

A level won’t tell you what angle you have. You need an angle finder

@Everybodypoops2 6 жыл бұрын

Or an $8 angle finder...

@t0m33r5 5 жыл бұрын

lol caster? You mean Camber right? Caster is how forward or back your wheel is in the wheel arch mate...

@JKGearandGadgets 5 жыл бұрын

No, camber is the tire leaning in or out. Caster is what I said, the angle of the balljoints relating to steering. Centering the wheel in the wheel well has nothing to do with either caster or camber.