The Greatest EVO Finals of All Time.

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We're back with another episode of Great Moments in Fighting Game History! Today we are covering the greatest Evolution grand finals of all time (in my opinion!) Evo 2009, Street Fighter 4 finals, between Daigo Umehara and Justin Wong! We'll be breaking down the history between these 2 players, the characters they're picking, and the strategies and adaptations that take place between Daigo's Ryu and Jwong's Rufus, Abel, and Balrog.
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@venomsnekko 3 жыл бұрын

13:15 The crowd were chanting "Let's go Justin!" He was doomed to lose from that point.

@leoalcaraz6153 2 жыл бұрын

People need to stop saying that when Justin plays it’s become a self fulfilling prophecy

@costelinha1867 2 жыл бұрын

@@leoalcaraz6153 Legends say, Mr.Wong is still traumatized to this day. After the great Daigo wars.

@nabkill0134 2 жыл бұрын

It like they are cursing him.

@fngerg7034 Жыл бұрын

i wonder if they were doing that on purpose

@SethKasso 3 жыл бұрын

FGC history content is some of my favorite content on KZfaq. This series is amazing.

@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын

Word

@Darkri56789 3 жыл бұрын

I wish more people would do this. The old games had so many good moments!

@JesusGonzalez-it2sv 3 жыл бұрын

Can't agree more. Check out blaz blue 2014 moments. Sorry was 2014 not 13. My bad

@ceec2999 3 жыл бұрын

True

@TlelocGaming 3 жыл бұрын

i agree, he should do more

@sasunouchiha1400 3 жыл бұрын

I like how Daigo seems so calm and respectful even with everyone against him.

@Tenchigumi 2 жыл бұрын

I like and respect the incredible contrast: Justin, excitedly hyping shit up after every improbable victory; Daigo stoic and calm, with an impenetrable poker-face. Makes me think of Mugen and Jin from Samurai Champloo.

@bigassdummy46 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty easy when you're a living legend and have literally nothing to prove.

@mrdude88 2 жыл бұрын

Will you care if the world is against you and you already know you’re going to win?

@samchongjingxian2811 2 жыл бұрын

this is why people like him, like me I really learn his mental thinking while playing game, no need to be a cocky and an angry idiot whether u win or lose a game...just be a calm person, unlike that stupid Wong, I really hate people react like this, what's he doing go joy to the crowd? thought he definitely win?

@mofo4what 2 жыл бұрын

You act like there was something he could do. He had no choice...

@splatx8176 3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't planning on watching a 36 minute Street fighter tournament video. but you chauffeured me through solidly with your commentary and it was beautiful.

@ReaperWeb 3 жыл бұрын

Dude i just realized it was a 36 minute video wtf

@phensie5021 2 жыл бұрын

Same to me 😆

@anmax 2 жыл бұрын

It felt like a 5 min video

@JohnSmith-qf1jn 2 жыл бұрын

Dude the way he hypes parts of the game without even being hyperactive is talent.

@Harlem1mentality 2 жыл бұрын

Right

@benjaminwilson9007 3 жыл бұрын

"What's the mix? He just goes for a meaty."

@chachawho435 3 жыл бұрын

me when I play any fighting game

@Native2087 3 жыл бұрын

Super safe approach depending on the meaty.

@QuinnClips247 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@rickyfajar5190 3 жыл бұрын

"how do you know it's an ume shoryu?" "if it hits, it's ume; if it's blocked, it's flowchart"

@brunocampos7199 3 жыл бұрын

Scrubby players normally mash Dp when they are negative (during strings, wake up, or even meaty). "Ume-shoryu" is using Dp as a neutral tool. Both times he used it, he caught Justin pressing Fierce.

@rickyfajar5190 3 жыл бұрын

@@brunocampos7199 I know dude, it's a joke

@brunocampos7199 3 жыл бұрын

@@rickyfajar5190 my bad.

@neloangelo365 3 жыл бұрын

@@brunocampos7199 same difference

@richman360 3 жыл бұрын

This comment is underrated

@Tenchigumi 2 жыл бұрын

In those days, Justin's talent was his mastery of multiple complex characters, able to swap them as needed to fit the opponent and situation, and use them more proficiently than other pros with their mains. But Daigo's talent was his grandmastery of one simple character, and could make that lone character feel like multiple complex opponents in the same match.

@edenyan7237 Жыл бұрын

and it is interesting to see that 20 years after moment 37, Daigo start to enjoy all sorts of characters when doing SF6 online, Justin however stay with Chun-Li all the way to every tournament he joins, the most insane part is both of them are still top tier player, normally you don't get to be that good for that long, I guess these two just build a little differently with others. 😂

@jamescollins5870 Жыл бұрын

20 years? This was 14 years ago

@Tenchigumi Жыл бұрын

@@jamescollins5870 He said 20 years after Evo Moment 37, not this match up.

@CheeseLasagna 3 жыл бұрын

I love your usual dbfz content, but these best moments in fighting game history are by far my favorite videos. You just do such a good job at keeping my attention throughout the whole video. Great content, keep it coming!! Oh and Merry Christmas and Happy New Years!!

@DiegoDeschain 3 жыл бұрын

I second this. Love these.

@emmarepro2698 3 жыл бұрын

The chair swap myth

@juliansalamanca9989 3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@betabenja 3 жыл бұрын

yeah, you build a good story

@idriscicek9596 3 жыл бұрын

hey jim, please please PLEASE more of this series

@jim-mf3dv 3 жыл бұрын

Yessir

@wh0racle3 3 жыл бұрын

@@jim-mf3dv spark vs Lord Knight from blazblue was a great one. Or Mike Z's bottom tier Tager destroying those top tier NU13 players. Just a suggestion

@kidfazer 2 жыл бұрын

idk why he stopped

@shen-long9082 2 жыл бұрын

Who the hell is jim??

@micah329 3 жыл бұрын

"You can't can't whiff punish a fireball" UI Goku smiling from dbfz

@bipolarprobe 3 жыл бұрын

Damn, Justin really put those stars and stripes on and tried his heart out to bring it home for America, but the beast stayed unbeatable. This is a match I've heard about but never given much thought but when you lay out the history and play out the drama like this beat by beat it ascends the match to new heights for all of us folks who weren't there to experience it live. Love these videos and how they enrich fighting game history.

@The_ZinKy Жыл бұрын

good comment bro!

@MrFatKat 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta love japan vs us - ryu vs balrog even the skins are matching lol

@gyrenrockz 3 жыл бұрын

i thought Justin is a "Chinese"

@icecreambrainz8726 3 жыл бұрын

@@gyrenrockz He's American.

@gyrenrockz 3 жыл бұрын

@@icecreambrainz8726 american citizen yeah but is he not chinese?

@AX5Terminator 3 жыл бұрын

@@gyrenrockz he's as Chinese as Balrog is African. What's your point, unless we have a native American playing everybody has a country of origin. Him being Chinese don't mean he isn't American...

@TheIcarusFalls 3 жыл бұрын

@@gyrenrockz If J. Wong is an "American citizen, but actually Chinese" then every white American is an "American citizen, but actually European". Most Americans have European heritage, but that doesn't mean they're European. So just because Justin has Chinese heritage doesn't mean he's Chinese.

@ahmedalkadhim9806 3 жыл бұрын

Man.... I was a Daigo fanboy during this era but looking back, I really wish Justin won that set. I'm really glad you highlighted this for people who might not know of it. It is an incredible set both in gameplay and historic value, and poses the "What if....?" where, in a universe with no arcade release head start, would Justin have had enough to win this one at least?

@officerdooderino5266 Жыл бұрын

Used to be a fanboy as well smh. Glad the early release isn't a thing anymore

@debo2189 3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was going to be the match of 'EVO moment 37' only to be surprised by this amazing match, amazing commentary! thank you for this video, i was massively entertained and huuuuuge respect to Justin for pushing Daigo to his limits all the way till the very end and win with the smallest of margins!!

@Lucifri 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I love to see Daigo do is adapt to his opponents. Long sets with Daigo are some of the most entertaining videos in the fgc.

@NOLAFrog112 3 жыл бұрын

As a 09er whos put fighting games on the back burner for parenthood, listening to your FGC history videos is really nostalgic. Youre great at bringing these moments back alive. Ive always thought you would make an excellent FGC commentator. Request: Cover the moneymatch between Clockw0rk and Golden Boy Neo around 9 years ago. The hype and build up was phenomenal. Not that anyone would have to pull your arm to talk about Marvel 2

@ajohndoe17 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never once thought of myself as a fan of competitive fighting games but I absolutely love your commentary and breakdown of the videos you make.

@coolmasterjg2450 3 жыл бұрын

Ready to look at some banger matches!!

@321tiempo3 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: they both wearing their flag colors on their characters, also characters nationalities are the same as the players

@Michael.Eddington 3 жыл бұрын

Only their race is different

@321tiempo3 3 жыл бұрын

@@Michael.Eddington what do you mean? They are both humans.

@Michael.Eddington 3 жыл бұрын

@@321tiempo3 What, that’s their species yeah. I don’t think there’s many dolphins or dogs who could be trained to play SF

@ginko276 3 жыл бұрын

@@Michael.Eddington lol XD

@ColinthePulkrabek 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t play fighting games, but I do play strategy games-I loved your concise explanation of the “big picture” strategies at play, helped me understand what was happening much better! Please more, thank you in advance!

@gerharddamm5933 3 жыл бұрын

So perfect that Justin is using the American character while Daigo uses the Japanese one

@Chronoic 3 жыл бұрын

The thing about Daigo and Justin is, Justin has the Wong factor when he falls behind, but.......... Daigo has Beast mode, which allows him to download and adapt faster if the matches goes way to long, and because Justin had to use his Wong factor early, Daigo, just adapted with Beast mode before Justin can win.

@milenarkioshi4288 3 жыл бұрын

Dood !!! That's some Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry thing going in there. 10/10, I would read this manga

@algumnomeaihehe 3 жыл бұрын

this is your brain on weeb

@poindextertunes Жыл бұрын

I love the language of SF. 2 players, worlds apart, exchanging technical banter to come to a poetic conclusion 🔥

@cappachino20 3 жыл бұрын

Ugh yes this series is back! Probably my favorite thing you do in them is explain, in non condescending ways, why certain moments or mechanics are important. As someone who enjoys watching but doesn't know how to play, it allows me to put myself in someones shoes (someone who knows all this stuff) and get just as hype. Keep it up sir. This was a great Christmas gift. Happy holidays!

@joelman1989 3 жыл бұрын

I am one of those who never understood how video games could be considered a sport. I like sports, and I played fighting games like street fighter casually in arcades when I was young. But I had no idea how technical the games I played could be. Your explanations of what’s going on go a long way in helping me have such a good time with these videos and recognizing that yeah, games can be just as intense and technical as any sport. This match had me on the edge of my seat.

@stonevicta 3 жыл бұрын

2:18 Top 8: 5 Chun-Lis and 2 Yuns. Third Strike meta in a nutshell. lol

@debo2189 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 I know right? had huge respect to them pros competing with characters like Q

@funkaoshi 3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t played fighting games in 20+ years but am now hooked on these fighting game history videos.

@TheScullens 3 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@GreatKingEd 3 жыл бұрын

Yo, I love this series. Was worried we weren't gonna get more cause its been a while , but a great Christmas eve gift

@maxcoopper4079 3 жыл бұрын

So cool to see Justin giving some info on the match, i like that you do this as it shows some awesome moments in the FGC.

@Brokout 3 жыл бұрын

Please do more of these retrospective videos, your regular content is good, but this is just such an unbelievable step up, it’s hard not to want more.

@TheEvilCheesecake 3 жыл бұрын

High quality video here pal, you did a great job of telling the story and delivering something for people all along the spectrum of SF4 familiarity to pick up on.

@jmcrofts 3 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@petertromp8786 3 жыл бұрын

Please do perhaps the most high level match in all of SFIV, Daigo and Momochi at Stunfest 2015, at some point, please. These analyses are fantastic.

@emmettunderwood4621 3 жыл бұрын

You are a fantastic commentator and analysts!!! These kind are my favorite videos of yours. Please do A LOT more like this!!!

@raedien 3 жыл бұрын

I love it when you do these feature match breakdowns with context. These are 100% my favorite videos from you. Keep it up man, your knowledge and passion for the genre come out so much while delivering expert info and hype moments is just too good a combo not to watch. A must-click every time.

@Hypno_BPM 3 жыл бұрын

man i miss the 2009-2014 Evo era. It was magical and I’m glad i got to watch them on Twitch

@thatonelucinamain 3 жыл бұрын

You know a moment is legendary when it causes you to tear up😌

@Maxbeedo2 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite finals was KOF13 2013 Reynald vs Woo, with Reynald in losers going down 0-2, then winning 6 in a row. The biggest momentum shift of all time for sure.

@ahsanmehmood5358 3 жыл бұрын

Favourite evo moment for many. Bala vs madkof a year ago was not bad either

@krodmandoon3479 3 жыл бұрын

KoF13 was the absolute shit, reallly upset that 14 never seemed to hit the same heights. Here's hoping 15 brings the heat.

@saadhasan2518 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah man that and Evo 2012 Grand Final b/w Bala and MadKof was also an amazing match one of the best Evo Grand Finals.

@saadhasan2518 3 жыл бұрын

All Reynald did was pick Ex-Kyo and then he went into UI mode once Goodbye Esaka started playing in the background.

@pufffypus8418 2 жыл бұрын

KBR vs Fchamp in winter brawls was a bigger momentum shift imo

@justblais21 3 жыл бұрын

SF4 2009 was so epic man

@ClintonChelak 3 жыл бұрын

This match in 2009 was my first intro to the fighting game community, from a recommendation by KZfaq. I'd say I became an obsessive fan of fighting games from that point on. Thanks for letting me relive this with fresh commentary.

@hawk239128 3 жыл бұрын

I love JWong but The Beast will always be my boi. He's the guy my son grew up cheering for. This was a great set from a great pair of competitors.

@mattm1982 3 жыл бұрын

I don't ever play Street Fighter (other than SF2 many years ago), but this was super entertaining to watch.

@jvo6770 3 жыл бұрын

this commentary was so good even my adhd ass made it through all 36 minutes well done.

@bconte88 Жыл бұрын

I don't know anything about SF but the way you explain the intricate tech makes the video much more enjoyable to watch. Thank you for the excellent commentary and sharing something that I would normally not watch.

@kevo1441 3 жыл бұрын

Where was this channel 10+ years ago?? Lol. Being able to get an analysis of the game makes it so much better. Thanks!

@DrFlarz 2 жыл бұрын

my favorite of all time is Lil Majin vs JDCR in Tekken 7 EVO 2018. Lil Majin being the only American player to make into the finals playing against JDCR a dominant player was fantastic. Also the power of the crowd, shouting Lil Majin's name just gave his match so much more hype behind it.

@JakeFLM 11 ай бұрын

that wasnt an EVO finals match.

@TheRADRAD 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this in anticipation of EVO2022 in a couple hours, but... Justin going to Balrog felt like the REAL "USA vs Japan" match had begun. You could feel it in the air of the crowd with their "USA" chants in tow as Justin literally puts an entire country on his back. The symbolism of such a sight is one of the things that makes this EVO GF incredibly memorable. Even to this day, America had not won SF4 on the world stage of EVO. They haven't done it for SF5... yet (go iDom!). In fact, the last time USA took home 1st place in Street Fighter... was over 10 years ago. HD Remix 2010 Snake Eyez Super Turbo 2008 John Choi Hyper SF2 2006 Alex Valle

@CatychoVT 3 жыл бұрын

The way you explain all this stuff makes sense to people who don't even play fighting games. I love it

@DanielRodriguez-zj5il 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I've waited for this...

3 жыл бұрын

God, that was so sick to watch. Thanks for this one

@dylanterry1197 3 жыл бұрын

Jmcrofts I love your commentary and how you explain terminology! Very helpful for newbies

@JohnSmith-qf1jn 2 жыл бұрын

I hate how much I love your commentary. I could listen to you speak for a long time. I want to thank you. Thank you.

@sircastic09 3 жыл бұрын

What a Christmas gift! This series is soo dope. Looking forward to more!

@pigboykool 3 жыл бұрын

SF4 is so much more exciting to watch than SF5. I hope SF6 will be much better.

@Carlos-ln8fd 3 жыл бұрын

Bruhhh i was rooting so hard for Justin at the end there

@bijibadness 3 күн бұрын

you are actually very talented at commentating this stuff. this is a real career talent, you've got, man. that's awesome. keep it up!

@yoteca 2 жыл бұрын

I've already watched 3-4 of your videos, such a pleasure. Fantastic commentary, easy to understand even for a casual like me.

@HumbleHurricane 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent choice for the greatest of all time. Its ironic that we both feel that way, because its literally the first Evolution I saw them both at. I already was a huge fan of Daigo as he embodied my main Ryu Perfectly in my eyes. Justin however was new for me here and it was here that I began to learn the Legend that he was. I was salty when he beat my guy Mike Ross haha . Felt damn good when was "avenged" by Daigo *my own story line * haha. Much appreciated for bringing the greatness of these finals back to the surface. Props my guy✊🏿

@level12fighter 3 жыл бұрын

What a great video. Thank you for all of the FGC content you put out.

@unib4324 3 жыл бұрын

i usually hate street fighter since i cant play well but you have made me want to play it again keep doing this great work

@DeanRGG 3 жыл бұрын

All of JMCrofts content is fuego but this series of FGC History is top tier! These breakdown analyses where he explains the intricate details and narrative so wonderfully are why Crofts is the best FGC content creator on KZfaq, FREE Can’t wait to see more hopefully sooner!

@davidmoore3417 3 жыл бұрын

This series is genius and the analysis is absolutely fantastic

@Robstafarian 3 жыл бұрын

It was fun spotting Yipes and Chris Matrix in the crowd.

@dodeker7845 3 жыл бұрын

so much memories , fchamp vs kbr , daigo vs justin ... you keep bringing back good old memories bro Happy new year !

@SB-tv6en 7 ай бұрын

I’m happy I got to see this for the first time with you narrating the match, your knowledge and experience is really insightful. Thanks for making this match new to me. 👍

@blueblur1998 3 жыл бұрын

Finally! These are so good thanks for making another one!

@wildwest1832 3 жыл бұрын

I remember watching these matches live too for EVO. Good old vanilla sf 4.

@Zorndar83 3 жыл бұрын

I got a bit late into fighting games but seeing these moments is always a pleasure, in combination with the explanation its a good view into all Fighting games. Especially with the interview of Justin Wong adds a nice touch!

@Rekora_Wulf 2 жыл бұрын

It's because of Justin's friend who mains balrog put his fists together, signaling balrog. They had practiced with the knowledge that balrog can 3frame jab out of fadc on Ryu. With that knowledge, his play style of turtling is his specialty, so it was almost destined to happen.

@AcidGlow 2 жыл бұрын

I remember this match very well. It was so intense. 🙂

@JT-wv4tb 3 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this happening live on the stream, this was one hype finals! It's always epic seeing these two legends battling out with each other. I also miss watching SF4 matches, imo much more fun game to play and watch than SFV.

@robertmatthews9650 3 жыл бұрын

Having played since SF I and 2: The World Warrior hit the arcades, it still warms my heart to see the evolution of the FGC turn into a thriving, respected profession that gets the historical play by play moments normally honoring champions like Muhammad Ali or Michael Jordan.

@CogzillaOfDojima 3 жыл бұрын

So happy to see this come back. It's how I discovered your channel in the first place. Happy Holidays!

@Yous0147 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yes, just such an amazing video. It was almost as exciting as watching the real thing and your commentary over it as well as your keen eye on both player's decision's is immaculate and on point.

@SuperDuperSoundFX 3 жыл бұрын

The mind game are epic. 2nd set, tied 1-1, Daigo did multiple dashes to chase Justin, tried to bait a super but ate the Balrog super but still left Justin with no meters and stole that round. Godlike.

@pablobarria296 3 жыл бұрын

i really never underestand fighting games, thank you so much for this videos, so inspiring!

@GiggityNinja 3 жыл бұрын

Dang this may be your best video yet. I have always been a fan since your FighterZ videos started (and still excitedly keep up with those) but this Fighting Game History content is next level. Such a good watch. Also, incredible job successfully incorporating the star Justin Wong himself, truly the icing on the cake

@MechaJeff 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I really enjoyed it. I've been a fan for a long time, and it's been a real pleasure to see your career and channel grow. I credit you and Dotodoya for keeping me motivated and interested in DBFZ. Keep it up!

@darknight864 3 жыл бұрын

hell yeah, another greatest moments episode. I love these

@Donger3k 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite EVO finals of all time. Great commentary!!

@JesusGonzalez-it2sv 3 жыл бұрын

Keep this videos up, I love them. Yesturday I watched the umvc3 greatest villain video. Witch I've seen like 4 times now.

@Horatiification 3 жыл бұрын

Punk v Tokido. The storyline was so good

@fenwild1000 3 жыл бұрын

YES man, I don’t even like SF all too much but I remember nearly dying from the hype of this set

@PaddyRoon7 3 жыл бұрын

Really missed these videos, thanks for working on this type of content again!

@Terribadguy. Жыл бұрын

"Let's go Justiiin!" is burned into my brain. I hear it every time I throw in any game.

@ZzigZaG00NIN 3 жыл бұрын

Dude you're really good at commentating

@tommylugaresi7431 3 жыл бұрын

Love this series! Thank you, JM.

@How2Helper2013 3 жыл бұрын

Just rewatched some of your earlier coverage of fighting game history, hyped for this one too!

@Tezca-Coatl 2 жыл бұрын

you miss one vital part of the analysis, the mental stack. After Justin reset the bracket, Daigo starts cooking for real and displays just exactly why he's the champion and you can see how he's caught offguard by daigos sudden agressiveness. Daigo hardly ever cracks during a tournament, if he does, then he has an amazing ability to conceal his emotional state in his gameplay..

@plutoburn 3 жыл бұрын

I think people sometimes forget Daigo's career logevity. His peers like Valle, Watson, and the likes aren't competitive anymore but he is still a fixture at the CPT. The only one like him is Sako.

@petertromp8786 3 жыл бұрын

I like Sako even more than Daigo, and I LOVE both. Daigo will go cheap if he's decided he wants to win above all (broken Evil Ryu in Ultra IV, ultra broken Yun in Arcade Edition), whereas I feel Sako is more "pure" in that he appears to play mainly to amuse himself and to entertain. That being said, when Daigo is competitive in a Street Fighter game, he elevates the meta and the yomi to the absolute maximum. As much as I hated Evil Ryu in Ultra IV, even Sako, who essentially developed the tech for the character (and way before Evil Ryu was even on anyone's radar as a viable option) said Daigo took the character to a level that even Sako couldn't imagine, or deal with. After Daigo had mastered Evil Ryu, Sako barely touched the character again, because he said it was pointless. Two absolute immortal legends for completely different reasons.

@TheEvilCheesecake 3 жыл бұрын

The rival of every top US player was Daigo. Even Tokido's rival was Daigo. Nobody will ever dominate for so long across so many eras as Daigo did.

@petertromp8786 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheEvilCheesecake Never say never. For me, however, Daigo's contribution to the FGC goes beyond what he's accomplished as a player. He's essentially shown that being a career competitive fighting player is a thing, and for that the Tokidos etc. can never thank him enough.

@ozzo870 3 жыл бұрын

EVO 2011 was my personal favorite EVO.

@Darlypants 6 ай бұрын

Fantastic insights, and thanks for the backstory! I had just watched the raw Justin versus Daigo video of this yesterday, so this was a cool follow up to that.