I love that Jesse is utterly fearless, and undeterred by adversity.

Love the mentality and drive of this guy

Looks like that system is worth more than the house you put it in.

Some time ago you were involved in helping to install a geothermal system but a well pipe was driven down some distance where the constant temperature was in the 50-degree area. A good temperature for the summer and helps electric costs in the winter. Never heard of laying pipe in the bottom of a pond. Something new all the time. Glad to see another installment on this particular house.

great video and explanation. I was ready with the question until Jesse answered it at the very end.

Great video with lots of information. I have to say that our water to air system ( forced air) is extremely quiet( you have to stand by a duct to hear if it’s running) and it has a MERV 13 filter in the air cleaner that traps almost anything in the air.

Jesse you get into some impossible situations that I don't think anybody but you could get out of. Nice work on getting this installation installed. You are the man! Acquiring and getting your equipment in working order has shown you have brought yourself up by the boot straps and kept your expenses down to the minimum. Only in America! You should be proud of yourself and what you have accomplished!

Oh man, seeing all those roots and rocky soil really brings up my PTSD of hand digging a small pond in my backyard. Gawd that was a nightmare. I wish I had an excavator at the time

I’m also absolutely fascinated w geotherm. I was totally surprised at the size of the ground loop that was installed. Here in Manitoba, Canada I see mostly closed loop in ground coil-loop which takes up significantly less land. But geotherm is clean and free energy after installation. Great vid! Great camera work. Thanks Jesse

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I was addicted to this house series and was hoping you'd give us some more. And now that you've started work on your own house I have two KZfaq addictions!

Preaching to the choir here about getting into things outside your comfort zone and field of expertise. When I had my RV and mobile home repair, I found myself drawn into repairing mobile home oil furnaces. That was fine except it involved service calls in the middle of the night in the middle of January. It also invloved stocking a bunch of parts for furnaces. I didn't want to get involved with all that when there were plenty of oil companies that did. Besides, I had enough of my own kind of work to keep me going.

Ok, this actually makes a lot of sense. I never knew how these worked, but now I understand. It's all about compressing gas and extracting the heat, then allowing it to expand to cool, send it out to the ground to warm it back up, and compress it again to extract the heat. Or, in other words, standing on the wrong side of the ac unit hanging out your window in the summer. Thanks Jesse

I did HVAC for years, and your description is good enough, really. The principal difference between an air sourced heat pump/ac, and a geothermal one? Efficiency. For an air-source one, you have to "de tune" it such that it works with cold air up to hot air, and everything in-between. This is a very wide band of source heat, and to accommodate that? You need a wide working range of "freon" gas (nobody actually uses the brand-name 'freon' anymore). You adjust the gas charge to allow the wide range, but at a loss of potential efficiency. But for a geothermal source, it's a constant temperature, year round. This lets you tune the gas charge to a *very* fine degree, which dramatically increases efficiency. Translation: to get the same indoor temperatures, you need to use significantly less electricity. Money you keep in your bank. It's the fine tuning that does the trick-- if you did that for an air-source unit? It would either freeze up, or not work at all, when the source temperatures (outside air) went beyond the ideal temp range. Hence the term "de-tuning"-- a wider range of working temperatures requires a different charge of working gas "freon". (it's more than just the charge, of course-- the surface area of the condenser/evaporator loops, a different compressor, different control valves, etc). Fascinating video-- I was entirely unaware of pond source heat loops, as they don't allow them in these parts.

I remember that you followed my advice a while back on the 7018AC rods for your AC welder, great to see it in action, it can readily be seen how they strike and restrike like 6013/7014 but are much stronger for heavy equipment repair...good job on the bucket dental work Jesse!

Now I see where you got your "Pond Loop" for your house 🙂

Man that mini toting that bucket really put into perspective of how big it is

What a lovely place to live. Go on in this proyect. I wish you the best.

Jesse you described it very well but people are told it’s free energy or free heating it’s not and it’s new technology it’s not but it’s good technology.

Jesse, you are the best thing that ever happened to this house!!

In my country we bury the tubes vertically or horizontally. I’ve never heard of using the system in water. Good video Jesse.

I love these videos! So thoughtful on designing and building the system, and then explaining the design after. Its always good to work with someone that knows their business, and that Geo-Thermal company seems to. Nice video Jesse! Can't wait to see how your house turns out!

Thanks Jesse, this was a good learning video if you want a GEO heating system. Shows the problems that you can have. I’m glued to your house.

You did a great job in your explanation of how the system functions! The thing people have to remember is the temperature where there is NO HEAT PRESENT not zero😳 THE LACK OF HEAT IS 460 DEGREES BELOW ZERO😳 we just don’t have the technology to extract heat below +32 BUT THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT OF BTUs (HEAT) IN 50 DEGREE WATER❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇺🇸

Dug this one out of the archives. Love the video!!

No tracer wire? Might have been a good idea for future around the property. I give you credit for putting that much pipe in the ground in that part of the country with all the rock!

I did geothermal for 18 years. It's the only way to go if you can afford the upfront cost. Pays for itself in a few years!

We´ve had a lot of these installed in Sweden the last 15-20 years and I've never heard anything but good about them! My father in law has one and his (+3000 sq.ft if I'm doing my calculations right metric to imperial) house is always really nice and warm even during the coldest winter-nights (north of Sweden is about the same climate as inland Canada). The only negative I can say is that the snow stays a couple of weeks longer in the field where the ground-loop is than on the rest of his farm...

Awesome video

You mentioned you would never use a water to air geothermal unit. Here in this part of Texas, we need cooling more than heating, and forced air is pretty much the only way to go. We purchased a ClimateMaster geothermal system about six years ago with four "wells" drilled in the backyard, 300 feet deep each. They put one inch poly from the house, going down each hole to the bottom and looping back up, daisy chaining to the other three wells and back into the house. They then grouted those wells. The unit is approximately a four ton equivalent, but the compressor looks about the size of a window unit's compressor. You said you didn't like the noise of a forced air system. Our installer suggested letting him do something I've never seen before. The ducts that feed the ceiling registers go straight up into the attic for about three or four feet before the 90 that takes it to the plenum. He said that makes it a lot quieter, and he's correct. We absolutely cannot hear the air coming through the registers at all. And you mentioned it blowing pollen and dust. Well, the filter on this unit is almost four foot square and two inches thick. It filters out pollen, dust, even smoke. We are extremely pleased with it and have had zero issues since installation. Our electric bills are usually a little over $100/month, and that includes our water well for household water. We are full electric here. The geothermal also heats the house in the winter months and preheats our hot water. Enjoyed your video, and subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to watching more in the future.

A friend of me has a water to water system too, but his property is not as big as this. So he drilled a hole into the ground 250ft deep. With his system he is able to heat up his complete 3000 sqft House, a pool in the basement and a twin garage. This systems runs fine since 18 years.

Glacial till and excavator bucket teeth don't mix. At the very first I thought, "This soil/rock is going to eat up those bucket teeth." Most of the excavation contractors I worked with in north Jersey and PA had a Miller welder in the back of their pickup truck to repair/replace teeth, etc.

Awesome Love your Videos. Andrew and you on the same day is great

Much respect Jesse always willing to learn a new trade if you don’t already know it...it’s the best way to learn on the job...so you can do it yourself in the future..it’s amazing the tools of today in the building industry seems like there’s a tool for everything....you can easy see why some jobs cost so much it’s the labor involved and the heavy machinery needed to do it and they don’t come cheap they are expensive to run not to mention the wear and tear on the equipment buckets and teeth on those buckets aren’t cheap hydraulic hoses etc...especially a job site like this where there’s rock everywhere you dig big ones too....

What you explained told me to never even let the idea fool around in my brain as I just can't do. Solar is making some significant changes to the world and will someday be practical for any home in america

You did a good job explaining the geothermal system.

Thank you for your general explanations.

All those rocks are like gold in the flatlands of Nebraska for landscaping.

Excellent upload. Full watched and have a wonderful day.

Jesse, you might want to do a little more research on the geo water to air system to get air conditioning along with the heat. I have a hydronic heating system which I put in myself that feeds off a 1500 gal insulated storage tank that is heated with a boiler that uses wood or fuel oil and had I think 5 different zones. The tank when up to around 160 degrees stoors about 1 million useable BTU's of heat. Well as I got older I wanted to simplify things and had a geothermal water to air heat system installed, it was a single-stage pump and dump system which we loved, after years of good service the compressor was in need of repair. We decided to upgrade our geo to a 2 stage which was even better than the old one. This spring I had 3 wells drilled to 150' and they installed a vertical closed-loop system which took us off of our main water well. That is working out great, it took a load off of the water well which is still supporting another geo system that heats and cools my barn. The great thing about a water-to-air system is you get both heating and air conditioning and dehumidification and humidifier for year-round comfort.

Good job👍

That's one grim looking pond right there. Great to see that it's making itself useful at least. Such a great build. 👍

Me and my dad watch at least one video on your channel everyday! We absolutely love the meticulous way you go about each and every project with max effort and work! The ICF house video series is addicting but I’ve gotta say the Geo house videos were just as good! What a property! Thanks for the entertaining content Jesse!

Some pipe couplers in the UK have an embedded heater coil. You connect them together, attach a power supply to two little contact pins and the pipe melts onto itself. I guess the advantage is you can create a joint exactly where you want to?

a lot of work and understanding

More than a little disappointed that we didn't see some rock blasting!! Its the next level in excavation. I can envision either you or Andrew need to getting an explosives license!

Thanks for explaining how the system works. You might put that part at the beginning. I was tempted to look elsewhere online to understand what you were doing in the first part of your video. Great video by the way.

Great video 👍 Jessie I think everyone has learned so much and in future job's check list pond deep enough length of pipe horizontal or vertical system rock's etc.

Thanks so much for showing us how to create this project.

That was a pretty cool walk-around of the system. Seems like a trench filled with water is much the same as a pond filled with water, so the client should be good

Really interesting video ✅ I remember this house - would be great to see it finished .

I used to really like the thought of putting in a geothermal HVAC unit in my home. A buddy of mine did it and hated it. Found it was very expensive with our high electric rates here in Ontario Canada. It had issues as well that he had to deal with. He ended up shutting it down and connected to gas when they ran it down his street with his old system only five years old.

Excellent vid, learned alot! Looking forward to your system install on your homestead. :)

The explanation in the end of the video is most coolest part. Cheers Jessy bro!

You're the best.👍👍👍

With all those rocks I bet they will have some leek's in a year or so with that said I hope not i would like to have that set up in my house... That's for sharing Jesse love watching all your video i have learned a lot from them & good luck with your new house... Keep the videos coming...Stay Safe & God Bless from Monroe Georgia...

Another absolutely fantastic vid you are so watchable well done.👍👍👍

I totally agree with your assessment about forced air heating and cooling, and want to use geothermal in my next home. I am also gonna look at the possibility of using a somewhat obscure technology called radiant cooling, where they run cooling tubes through the ceiling, which seems to be popular in Europe. As an aside, I think the unit you installed here actually is considered a heat pump, just that it is going from water to water instead of the more ubiquitous air to water systems we all hear about.

Give the rocks to Mrs W or put them round the pond edge 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

I just realised that widespread installation of ground source heat pumps in the future is going to make digging a lot more complicated!

Insulating the ceiling would give even better results! No electric bill... yes but maintenance fees that can be more expensive than having to pay bills over time. 1:18:50 the term to be used here is "thermodynamic" using geothermal.

very informative great job

Nice Work.

Cool stuff brother u no more about this more then the next man dont put ur self down you taught me something new today 🙂

Yup....explained it a bit wrong. Checked comments and no one posted corrections. Big water heater runs hot water thru lines at floor to create heat for house. Small square unit is a heat exchanger, water in lines that you just buried 8' deep thru the yard is super super cold, it pulls the heat out of the lines that run thru floor... both systems are connected and maintain each rooms and or whole house at constant set ambient temp. They are amazing systems Oh small water heater is obviously for use at sink and shower..... but is also tied into larger tank so they both help heat each other....

I’ve been installing Ground and Air Source heat pumps for over 10 years.. some with ground collectors but mainly bore holes, sizing of the collectors and pump Kw size is critical, a accurate heat loss calculation must be done, including insulation values…and additional insulation and lagging ..

Just for your info , when we installed our geothermal system , we didn't have enough ground so we went 85 meters straight down, twice lol, nice having a mate who owns a drilling firm lol

Great to see another advocate of underfloor heating, it's a great way to heat your house and I will never live in a house without underfloor heating again. :-) One questions about the loops under the floorboards, are you not going to insulate then from the service space / basement, you will loose a fair amount of heat from radiation into the service space if you don't and all you have to to is to add 3-4" of foam insulation between the rafters and that will stop the heat loss to the service space. I would also insulate the pipework to / from the geothermal system and thermal storage, you want to send the heat into the house and not dump it into the service space.

From your explanation there are 4 separate water systems; the ground loop, the watertank loop the heating loop and the hot water supply. Each are separated from each other and circulates separately.

I fused poly when I worked in the oil field back in the day. The shits tough and way lighter then fiberglass and there is no rusting or breaking. Down side is that you cannot feel it with the hoe when digging so it can be tricky to dig around. Not so bad if you have a spotter of course..

nice vid jesse you got to learn on your house so you can do mine lol

Big fish in that pond i seen a big one when you first started talking about not being able to dig in the pond i think it was

Learned a lot, thanks Jesse! Was thinking on the pond loop if you could have raised the overflow pipe and possibly raised the pond level 3-4 feet to get your 8' depth. I've always thought of geothermals as a long trenched loop so the pond loop really has me thinking. Thanks again!

A rock bucket on the skid steer would’ve come in pretty handy on that job.

Very interesting to see how geothermal heating can be installed if you have the room for it. Unfortunately in my country (UK) 99% of housing would not have sufficient land or a handy pond to install the pipes in, nor do the vast majority of houses have basements for the tanks pumps etc. We installed underfloor heating pipes in our recently built ground floor extension, (36square meters) it is very good, the room is comfortable the tiled floor slightly warm compared to the rest of the house, and it leaves all the walls free of radiators for furniture, a big plus. Our floor is heated from the same gas boiler that heats the radiators in the rest of the house. Due to the higher insulation of the extension and improvements to insulation in the rest of the house we have not noticed any increase in gas usage since before we built the extension. I guess air to water heat exchanges could be used in the UK, they would take up less room, but they are not common, although it is being installed in some new build properties. Cheaper to install by a long way is electrical underfloor heating, but here in the UK it is expensive to run, therefore not popular. That might change in time as more renewable sources of electricity are developed and when the boiler ban comes in in a few years time. Some new housing is built with airpump heating which either heats radiators or under floor pipes. I have yet to meet anybody is satisfied with it, people say it is not warm enough in cold weather. Probably the units are undersized for the coldest weather to save on cost.

That’s a lot of time and planning. Amazes me how many things you can do

If you stop by your local Rock Quarry and pick up some used screens, for free in most cases, to filter out rock during back filling.

i installed a pump and dump geo, love it.

10:10 I look at all that stone and imagine the beautiful wall the original builder, and now 'Mrs W', could have made with it! Of course, if it's all going to be back-filled? Quite some set up.

Getting mighty close to 100k subscribers and well deserved , next target 250k ! 👍👍🇬🇧

Great informative video! Loved the music in this one also. Lots of information and detailed project overview. Love your channel. Peace and Good Fortune and Good Health to you and your family.

Wow !! Very interesting video jess,my work installed a geo thermal to a brand new building,they had 3 well drilling machines in the lot [approximately 150 ft ' 80 ft] running for 3 months they drilled down 500 ft and made a loop they said it's the most efficient but most expensive. Man you sure have a lot of rock up there or shale,geo thermal is not for everyone but if you can afford it .its the way if the future for sure,have not seen the pond theam for installing this but that had me intrigued. That had to be expensive along with all the other construction along with this old house. Mabey you should start up a new version of this old house!LOL,love what ya do brother!

A rock bucket on the skid steer would have saved days!!!!🤣

Awesome work Jesse

This is a good example why people used rocks so much in construction. Because there were always rocks around, everywhere.

SALUDOS JESSE. ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS. G.B.Y.

I wish I could find rocks and boulders like those in your videos for my landscape project..

Thermodynamics is a very interesting subject (even more so as it gets into Quantum Physics!). In these systems keep in mind one weak point in a central compressor set up is that you can not have heat and cooling at the same time. Something you would want if say you are heating a full basement first level (ground temp) while sunshine overheats the upper level through windows, south facing, etc. This is where separate mini splits for the levels and rooms can shine. Big windows in a living room that need heating while back bedrooms need cooling. All these situations with great variability are areas where the cost and installation of mini splits are a good option. Yes you do lose efficiency as temps go down but with today's better cold weather cooling you can easily get down to minus ten or greater and still be two or three times more efficient that straight resistance heating. At worst the units have a one to one when they switch on electric heat below twenty or thirty below zero. A fear I would have with ground loop systems is that should you get that one in ten year winter where say you have heavy rains for weeks right up to subfreezing weather your ground frost can go very very deep. Raising not only the possibility of freezing but ground heaves can shear the piping. If this happens in several places the cost of repair could be dramatic. For some situations the dehumidification provided by the mini split style can be a huge benefit. In today's world weighing in the cost it is hard to beat a mini split sytem. With some skill, tools and research installing your own can save the homeowner thousands. I know I put in a ton and a half unit over two years ago for a cost of about $1600. I have 18000 cu. ft. in my shop and the unit keeps it at a steady 65 F year round from ninety degrees to zero at its lowest setting. The increase in the electrical bill is almost unnoticeable (16 cents per Kilowatt hour). I have no problem with rust or condensation in my shop now and am very very impressed that a unit rated for 600 sq ft. can do almost three times as much at an idle (speaking of fan settings) and never falter. A very deep subject that draws you in the more you learn about practical and theoretical aspects.

How nice it would be here in the People's Republic of Pennsylvania to just be able to dig up the land. In this hell hole of a state we'd need a NPDES permit, an entire engineered storm water management plan, silt socks and fencing and so on. Not to mention if you turned a pond brown with silt, that would get you in trouble with the clean water act...

Great Video brother, that being said these geothermal are a no go IMO. I only say that, because as a plumber you wouldn't believe how many jobs I get called to with people abandoning these systems. The amount of $ for rough install and replacement/maintenance destroys the efficiency. All that being said, I still loved the video and hope that it works out for you.

other options are to use small pumps to do what we call fast recirc. that actually make use of the friction and pump motor heat gain to add to the load before it hits your coils or boiler loop (radiant heat). With the exception of Alaska, near or above the arctic circle, 48 inch depth is generally well below frost level which guarantees a 50-55 degree consistent water temp. Radiant is more efficient, however, the time it takes to catch up and to react is slower. Way more cost effective and can be fine tuned with solar to really eliminate the power draw from the grid.

Top 4+ ft of your trench cut...nice crop of rocks...seems like your cut will take a bit of sand for tube protection....good luck...

Oooohhhhh I were also beginning to wandere when you were tearing down that deck ! , but okay know it came down ! :D :D Wellllll !! :D :P This project is soooo cool ! Jesse , and this homestead are going to become so freaking awesome when it will be finish! :D I would wish it was me that owned that property ! :D but anyway as allways I love watching your vids. I really enjoy them ! :) Know I understand why everybody loves the land of the free. I wish that I some day can emigrate to the states from Denamrk !!! It´s so much cooler over at your country ! :)

great info thanks

It seems like the cost analysis would work out if there were a young couple planning to live there for 20-30 years. It could also be an asset if one were selling to another younger couple provided the buyer would be willing to look at it as an asset. With sales, all one needs is a willing buyer and a willing seller.

Great informative video.

The only time it's ok to say "I can't" is when it's going to cost more time , effort and money . That's when it kind of goes from I can't to "I won't"!! It just makes more sense to move on in a direction that everyone feels better about!!

Job well done!

I did a job in the bay area, cali, where they drilled down into the earth about 250 -300 feet and looped it up...seems like this would of been cheaper to do? Good enuf explantaion on the system... I see why you didnt want to drain the pond. The drone shot showed some big money proerty down the way and im sure they would have good lawyers, hahahaha... Looks like a nice place to have a home if i were retired gov official... Private and lots of space...

Geothermal should be the standard for all new builds.

That is very cool but like u said pretty complicated. Unless u have the proper experience. Very cool thanks for sharing!