Damn. Saagar looks great in the Oppenheimer sequel

It sounds as if Iraq has no more problems?!

I was in Iraq in 2006, and it was an absolute shit-show. I lost any scrap of respect I had for humans that year. We gave people money for various vile things, and it's pretty common. We ABSOLUTELY destroyed that place, and very, very few people were happy we were there, from what I could tell. I rarely tell people I was there, as I'm so fucking disgusted by being part of it. I got my helmet, medal, and other bits, and I keep them in a box, under the bed Jocko's a good guy, but I can't defend the military like he does. Granted, I only did 5 years as a grunt, but, I got the general idea what we were there for REALLY

Yeah. After being a prisoner since 1948, being tortured, expropriated, moved around and robbed of dignity, close relatives, let alone any material possession, a young Palestinian would certainly approach Israeli soldiers with a bouquet of flowers and say out loud "thank you for saving me from the bad guys".

Jocko’s Gaza take is quite delusional, unfortunately. The analogy with Iraq does not work here. Prior to or after October 7, there is ZERO chance Israel will have rapport with Gazans. Also, “my child was in the wrong place at the wrong time”….. that is hilarious.

5:35 Even prior to October 7th, the IDF has zero chance of getting support from the locals in Gaza. This is delusional

Jocko keeps seeing Gaza from the lens of the Iraq war, not the same thing.

I don't think Jocko knows this conflict too well.

Joko has clearly realized what his tribal position should be on this subject since his initial comments lol

How on Earth could you think any Palestinian would thank the IDF for indiscriminately bombing them??? I agree with commenters below, this guy is delusional. He may know a lot about the battles he was in, but he seems to know very little about this one.

Comparing Israel/Gaza to Iraq is pretty absurd. One major difference is that the US wasnt trying to eject Iraqis off their land and occupy it as US territory

I liked Jocko's story about working with Sheikh's in Ramadi. I come from Fallujah and was there during the occupation. I can confirm his story about working with local sheikhs as I've seen it with my own eyes. I've seen local "sheikh" getting paid in duffle bags of cash to encourage his people not to attack coalition forces. A couple of weeks later, the "sheikh" and his associates were rolling around in brand new armoured Land Cruisers and attacks on coalition soldiers were going as per normal. I'm assuming the US local commander in my town had the same view as Jocko. What he failed to understand is that if the "Sheikh" even hinted to anyone about not attacking the invaders, that would have been a death sentence for him. So the US commander ended up funding the "Sheikh's" lifestyle for nothing in return. But I'm sure he wrote a nice report to the higher ups about how he's "working with local leaders to win hearts and minds". Jocko is either lying or just delusional. My bet is on delusional since Americans in general have a hero complex.

Ok ooof those first 10 minutes where he’s imagining that Palestinians will be more mad at Hamas than Israel… I appreciate jockos viewpoint but he may need to talk to some Palestinians because he may be a bit out of touch with this specific conflict

It’s like having a convo with half the details omitted

It warms my heart to see the breaking points comminity overwhelmingly on the same page on this conflict.

Oh oh jocko missed all the postcolonial lectures at the war school

Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

Its funny how he talks about people showing support for the guys in charge in Gaza, then pivots to how he didn't see animosity when they killed civilians. Like yeah bro, that's cause you were in charge there! Wait till you leave!

This is insane, how is he going to say there was a good time to live in Gaza, and who on earth is going to shake hands with their occupier. This guy sees through rose coloured glasses

I really enjoy how Jocko always brings back sympathy and emotion into some of his answers. I felt like Saagar was expecting Jocko to say at times " yeah, this is war and people are going to die no matter how much you try to prevent it...there are a lot of Palestinians who support Hamas and voted them in....collateral damage cannot be avoided...etc" but Jocko always brings back simple answers like, the Palestinians are regular people who are just trying to support their families so of course a lot of them have no choice but to support their current government because what else choice do they have? If they resist Hamas, they'll just be killed. I noticed lately that Saagar doesnt bring any emotion into his views and beliefs because he wants to stay true to his principles, which is respectable, but at the same time, its easy to forget that people are just trying to live a good life and support their families. Debates tend to be overcomplicated when the answer can just be simple and not so thought out. Im glad Jocko kept emphasizing how the majority of people are just normal trying to get by. US media including independent media can really overcomplicate things happening around the world.

I am not buying it that the family of the killed civilians by US troops blamed the insurgents more then the US troops. That's either delusional or a load of crap. Sagar didn't challenge it eother.

The amount of delusion exhibited by this guest is unparalleled.

Imagine referring the inhabitants of a country you’re attempting to invade as “insurgents” and still trying to act like you speak with any credibility. 🤔

“And of course we would pay them money to apologize for what had happened when civilians got killed” is one of the grossest collection of words I’ve ever heard.

its seems Jocko has no nuance in this particular scenario.

Yo he really said Palestinians are "probably saying 'THANK YOU FOR COMING IN' to Israeli soldiers"... Tell me you know nothing about Israel-Palestine without telling me...

I love Jocko, but I am so happy to see the comments full of people pointing out the fallacies in this type of narrative

I think Jocko is clueless regarding the practices on occupied territories.

When Jocko says that in his experience he’s found , “for every one terrorist you kill, you’ve created 5 more” to not be true (though he also says he hasn’t found it untrue either) doesn’t apply to Palestine. It sounds like he had a good rapport with the local population and they at least understood that he was attempting to not kill innocents. Palestinians don’t have a good rapport with Israel. I think it’s safe to say a good amount HATE Israel. Not because they’re terrorist and not because they’re anti-Jewish… it’s because of what Israel has done to them. And I don’t believe Israel is actually trying to differentiate innocents from Hamas, and thus the Palestinians won’t have this introspective nature about their family’s “accidental death”.

Jocko contradicted himself way too much during course of this interview

100% agree, Jocko. It makes zero sense that permanent DST has not been passed in CA or federally. Let’s get this done people!

I’d love to see a deep dive military analysis with Scott Ritter on Breaking Points

The idea that Gazans are talking to IDF saying "thank you for coming in" when they're killing infinitely more civilians than hamas is just crazy. He has no idea what he's talking about. He has not seen what they've done.

Seems to me this interview didn’t go over so well among the general viewership.

Jocko is a company man.

Jocko on Isreals reaction to date.. "They're doing the best they can." Watching you fall in line is such a shame.

He is saying that the Gazans are too afraid to go up against Hamas, ok that might as well be true but at the same time he thinks that the poor iraqis that just got their family member killed would dare to stand up to the invading US soilders. He doesnt apply the same logic there. ”Yeah, they werent mad at us for killing their familes they said so themsleves, they were mad at the Guy who we tried to kill”🤦🏽‍♀️

When he said, oh an isreali operative going into a refugee camp and talking to the locals... Me just sitting here, you mean the refugee camp they bombed?? That convo will go over well I'm sure

I lost it at "let's put Walmart and Starbucks in Iraq" boomer brain rot at levels I didn't even believe possible.

I don't always agree with Krystal, but I really found myself wishing she was part of the interview to push back on some of the inane, ridiculous things Jocko said. The idea that a siege was simply "waiting out Hamas in their tunnels"... That gazans will probably think "wrong place wrong time" I the next time a refugee camp gets bombed... Just boggles my mind and I wish there was a more two sided convo here.

Unfortunately the comparison is not a good one, because the people of Gaza are directly oppressed by the military performing the insurgency. Not the case in Ramala

This interview is wild imagine your daughter being bombed and you're like oh she was in the wrong place at the wrong time 😂. I can't

I spit my coffee when Jocko said "The IDF trying to help the civilians" 😂 brah have you seen the News lately or ever

All of you in the comments of previous interviews complain about Krystal when she interrupts and wants to clarify things with questions this is the type of interview you get. he has some good points and experience but also said some outlandishly delusional things lol

To think a Palestinian would point the IDF in the direction an Hamas militant is hiding willingly is absolute ignorance bro.

Remember when Jocko said Ukraine was going to beat Russia? 🤣

Cheers to the BP audience for ratioing the fuck out of this entire interview. Jocko needs more friends to tell him when he's out over his skiis

Wow the comments section is right on. I agree with you that say there was no push back on not tmjust things that sound ridiculous but also the last polls of Gazans

This was a good talk, but I think Jocko (as much as I like and respect him) really misses some very large points about this issue, perhaps driven by leftover indoctrination from the military (I got the same crap). I would emphasize to him: (1) Israel is not Iraq, (2) Israel has actually done some really bad things in Gaza and treated the Palestinians as sub-human, and (C) this is actually a rather clear and distinct issue and not an issue of various armed warlords and factions fighting for control like in Iraq.

“We know that my son was in the wrong place at the wrong time” is not a sentiment any parent has ever had ever😂.

This being recorded in black and white for a more edgy feel so that Saagar can pretend like he's cool and his opinions are valid has got to be one of the most pathetic things ive seen from him yet.

Love how people in the comments call him brainwashed when he was literally a commander in Iraq fighting WITH Iraqi soldiers against jihadists. He admitted that he doesnt kno the situation in Gaza and has never been there, but is explaining his experience in Iraq fighting alongside friendly Iraqi soldiers and dealing with the poppulace and what the mindset was. The situation in Gaza is obviously way different and Palestinians hate Isrealis so the likelyhood of gettin civilian Palestinians on the side of Israeli seems extremely unlikely

Jocko says that the palestinians wont rebel against hamas because they provide the food, public services, jobs and they are armed; but then when talking about the relationship between the iraqui population and the coalition he forgets that the coalition provided the food, public services and jobs (because the coalition destroyed the countryand took control over most companies and the public sector) and they where armed.

Jocko has no idea what's going on in Gaza... All he knows is what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan

This was so delusional that I had to switch off. Jacko has no idea, and Sagaar just went with it. If you really think there is a scenario where the Palestinians will welcome and thank the occupiers after 75 years of brutality then you have no right to have any platform

Jocko is a little battle happy. He is a well trained soldier and thinks as one.

So.... 2 of Jocko's 4 children get killed by bombing. The people who dropped the bomb say "Sorry Jocko - here is some money for your 2 dead children". Jocko says "thank you for the money, I'm cool with that"...... Yeah..... I don't think so!

People should know that supporting Hamas in youtube comments section is pretty easier than being in Gaza rn, lol

When Jocko said at 4:50 that the Israel is making efforts to take care of the civilian populace, I nearly spit out my coffee. This guy knows nothing about what is happening on the ground in Gaza, where Israel has bombed 22 hospitals, 55 health clinics, 254 schools, etc. There are very few Palestinians who are going to collaborate with the Israeli occupiers after this war.

Gaza and Ramadi are not the same AT ALL.

"they're doing the best they can" ... unbelievable

😆 i found it amusing that you filmed in Jocko's studio and kept the black & white theme. Entering his realm, you become greyscale.

They “want” to be like us, our way is “better”. Gee, where did we hear that before? Let me go ask the Natives.

I think this is why the dynamic between sagaar and Krystal interviewing together is needed. Although ppl hate when Krystal “interrupts”, this interview needed several moment of pushback and elaboration. Sagaar kinda just swallowed the narrative and went on to more questions

9:07 “and of course, you know, we would pay them money to, you know, apologize for what had happened when civilians got killed”. I had to go back 2 times to make sure he said that

All of these upset Muslims hate it when they don’t talk about occupation 😂 None of these people in the comment section have ever lived under hamas rule, it’s not a game about talking points, it’s life

A lot of people in these comments don't like to hear the truth. They are 100% convinced of their opinion that nothing will ever change what they think. Jocko doesn't care about politics. You ask a question you get a no-bs response based on real-life experience. It doesn't matter what the topic is about.

Wow. Im a bit taken back by his ignorance of this conflict.

Thats why military ppl shouldn't be politicians..

Feels like a psyop in these comments. It’s weird all of these comments are misquoting Jocko and strongly ignoring context.

I'm not surprised that krystal wasn't invited 🤣

Saagar gave zero pushback or counterpoints to anything Jocko assessed…

I think we're seeing a lot of people we thought we could trust going through their 'Sam Harris' moments.

22:53 to say that the Israeli soldiers care about the people of Palestine, I can't believe Saagar didn't interrupt him.

The people shouting the loudest for war against Russia have never actually fought in a war and never will! Full stop!

We are the good guys complex has clouded his judgement in the specific topic. Hama is bad but the Israel government who support Hama in the first place to further their agenda are just as bad. Palestians have suffer from Hama no doubt but Israel has made them suffer much more. Open air prison with limited access to basic human needs met was a disaster waiting to happen.

The way saagar been citing and hoping this guy up I was really hoping for a better analysis, he didn’t lay any critique to Israel and seem to be trusting all of their propaganda

Gazan: "Why are you wiring my child's school to explode?" Hamas: "So when the IDF bombs nearby, the secondary explosion will kill your child." Gazan: "Why are you storing munitions underneath the hospital?" Hamas: "So when the IDF finds it, your grandmother will die during her stay." Gazan: "What happened to the billions in aid intended to rebuild our economy and infrastructure?" Hamas: "That went to your leadership in Qatar." Gazan: "Why are you making my parents and children stand next to the rocket launcher?" Hamas: "So that they die when the IDF targets it." The comments section: "Why would the Gazans hate Hamas?"

I love all these commenters who have never been to war lecturing Jocko on what happens during war. If anything, Jocko was pretty light on the evils in Palestine.

It is really exasperating how someone like Jacko knows so little about what is going on Or does he?

5 mins in, and it sounds like Jaco doesn't know wtf he's talking about.

The scary part is Jocko, who's 10000 times more reasonable than your average american politician, is still light years away from understanding the issue. This shows that on some matters, the propaganda is so deep there might be no solution aside from completely questionning a narrative, disconnecting and building your own point of view slowly and methodically. The interview was interesting, however, this guy is a full-on military, hence not enough.

Bring Jocko back for a 6 month review.

"the Palestinians in refugee camps are probably thanking the Israeli soldiers" is one of the most delusional things I've ever heard lmao

What i hate most about this "interview" is that Jacko will just state things and Sagaar would just swallow it with even asking "what's your basis for saying that?" Like: What is your basis for saying people were kept from fleeing? What makes you think people will give up their Hamas relatives anyone than Afghans giving up their Taliban sons and nephews?

He really him em with the "They'll be greeted as liberators." You can tell dude was in the US military 😂

It’s like every member of Hamas is sitting in a tunnel writing comments on this video. You all are insane.

His point abt propping up the economy of the Palestinians is so key bc once you root out the poverty and the oppression and the blockade you effectively root out hamas by default. The ONLY reason they exist is bc people have no hope in any future of any kind.

Yo sagar's villain arc starts here😂

Love this!!!

Jocko talks about muslim civilians like they are pawns on a chessboard

Never forget USS LIBERTY

I'm sure Jocko was a great soldier and I respect him tremendously. But this was an interview that didn't need to happen.

Hostages might grapple with the stark realization that their own nation was conducting bombings and causing harm while their adversaries were the ones working to preserve their lives.

Sagaar looks like a Navy Seal in black and white

If Israel really wants peace, it will require the Palestinians to have self determination. Israel MUST be forced into obeying international law if Israel wants freedom from fear.

This guys sounds so off to me that ten minutes into this interview i think I’ll just go find something else to watch on KZfaq to try and educate myself on the situation.

Those labelled 'terrorist' were actually local people resisting military occupation of their homeland.

Difference btween Iraq and Palestine is Iraqis were not afraid of being ethnically cleansed by the US military while the IDF commanders (and their soldiers on Tiktok) have repeatedly said they intend to turn Gaza into a resort for Israelis and the Gazans are going to disappear.

Lol. Jocko said the civilians might look positively at Israel "once they're sitting in a refugee camp and the IDF is giving them supplies and asking them questions", like dude, Jocko clearly has no idea Isreal has been bombing all the refugee camps. And Sagar is just sitting there fan-boying out. wtf am I watching lol