Lmaoo

Laughs…

Politicians are excellent at that,but most of us see through the BS

Exactly...he says a whole lot but says nothing. He's the type to talk in circles and if you're not careful you'll fall for his BS. I bet no one in the shop truly understands what he was saying...niggas it just nodding their heads agreement. Dude is exhausting

Super facts

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100% facts. He’s brutal. He also does the knee jerk “no” in response to anything someone else says. He’s a contrarian. But then, he will reiterate exactly what the other person said as if it’s different. It’s a really annoying character trait or flaw.

This was great

nah, he just forces you to infer what's being implicitly said.

You have to be a text book narcissist…it’s in their make up

And I don’t say that from a place of I don’t like Joe…but that’s something I don’t like about him

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Hell you just did it with your comment

Clearly it's alot of closed minded people because the stoopid shyt that happens on a daily is mind boggling

I don’t think that happens for people after 40. But I pray he figures it out.

He admits wrongdoing fairly often. The problem with that is people just believe the other side without knowing what’s really going on. You’re allowed to not believe someone, you aren’t allowed to say they didn’t take actual accountability without knowing.

Talkin bout that argument he had at complex😂

Love joe but he needs to stop talking about this if he gonna keep digging a another hole. He hurting his brand. Tell truth let it die. They said accounting wasn't right. Stop my guy. Nasty😂

Lol he's like a woman when they don't want to admit they're wrong lol

Why? It’s his show and they brought nothing to the table

He's Aquarius ♒ so him doing that is warranted. If you know you know

@@TheSub-SaharanAmericanLegend I take offense to that as an ♒️ 😂😂 sike naw, I’m unfazed 😂😂😂

Bars

That's a BAR

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Well he told y'all "New Joe Budden!"

When the oppressed become the oppressor

I don’t think Mal was ever truly his friend.

It is sad but thats Joe’sfault

@@shaminturner67 Me either. Mal flipped wayyyyy too quick and jumped into an issue that was between Joe and Rory at one point. Rory always got nasty with Joe. They needed to go.

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Mal was kicking dudes outta blogtv chatrooms.. they seemed tight

I’m dien 😂 😂

lulz

facts

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True

#FACTZ ✌️

💯💯💯 the best out for me

Damn Scott you be on everybody stuff lol

Whenever dis dude post i know its a great interview he watched

But it wasn't him, that was Spotify. Do you even listen?

"creative differences" 😂

Well said

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this is the clearest Joe tho, there's legitimacy here. he's hard to listen too when he on some bs 🤷🏽‍♀️😅

And that he was paying them from "net". Meaning that he was moving funds around to other podcasts and projects, like Rory and Mal said.

@@Wizznilliam why is that a problem tho

@@justxliff Because if their contract says that they are paid a percentage of the profits of the JBP it affects their pay. If they never agreed to risk their part of the profits on other failed podcasts then he is taking money from them without their permission. From them they say they never agreed to starting a podcast network. If that's something that he wanted to do then he could have either waited until they were off contract or used his portion of the money plus the other money he had coming in. Not money out of the group pot.

People hear and see what they want, Joe practices bad business and has a history of it, like you said he could have paid those guys there earned worth and then after came to them offered the plan if they didn't want to do it cool move on, but instead he chose to snake them and then spin a narrative on them, good for them for standing up and speaking the truth it's always hard at first but then you realize you don't need people like that in your life

@@Wizznilliam everyone does that, especially Diddy and Jay. It just no one has the balls to come them out on it for the world to see. You’re not getting Jay on a Pod. You’re not getting diddy on a Pod and ask him how he’s splitting up the proceeds

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Lmaooo for real.

Poor baby sad that they broke up. Do u know the situation. Y’all don’t know these people

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creative difference

But there’s nothing wrong with that

but it’s the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST

@@JohnGBeats Everyday Struggle wasn't the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST 🤷🏾‍♂

Been there too many times? Lol you didn’t think after the first time you should stop going into business with friends? Wtf wrong with u peanut brain

It's not a financial dispute when you are the sole investor

@@richdrb and the only one who was creating content, bruh was begging them niggas to step up.....

@richdrb You're not very smart, are you?

@@steviejay868 they help turn the pod into a multimillion dollar project and since they don’t wanna do more after the fact he can be upset ? Is this what you getting at dog

@@steviejay868 yup, "lets take this pod to the next level". i remember all that.

Which contract were they under that said they were profit partners? Cause Spotify didn’t view them as such .. Rory hardly mentioned this .. so was this actual a contract or mal’s perception?

Joe allowed them to ride his wave (they put in work) but if his shit he gets the lions share

They were workers

if they were partners, he wouldn't have the ability to downgrade them...even if joe had 50% and they each had 25% of the pod, they would stalemate on that subject. and even with that percentage base, that would make them minority stake holders, not partners.

Yes but with "profit partners" comes risk also. If the pod wasn't profitable them dudes wouldn't get paid. If salaried they get paid regardless, that's the angle Joe was probably trying to get at lol To Mal the risk was probably worth it, which says he believed in it, but it's all perspective I suppose

That’s why he is where he is. For better or worse

How long has it been around?

This podcast is dogshit

Thank you bruh 😂😂😂

Lets break it down from the owner perception. Let’s say they did take the percentage. If the show revenue is down you’ll feel it with a percentage. Salary is guaranteed no matter if the revenue is down. The salary may be less but it’s more likely they will get that salary amount rather having a fluctuating pay. But also no employee gets a percentage. If they signed a contract that stated they were getting a percentage off total revenue they are part owners. If this is in writing no matter what, they could sue for millions and win with no problem. Sound like they were just told this and had nothing in writing.

Joe wanted to put them in the place they made comfortable for themselves. They showed that they just wanted to come in work for an hour or 2 and dip. That sounds like someone that should be on salary. If they were bringing partnership deals to the table, or marketing plans that were viable then that would warrent a percentage based payout. If u move like an employee ima treat u like an employee. And don't get it twisted, their "salary" would have been 7 figures. Only 10% of the American population makes over 100k solo (not as a household). They felt like they provided alot by just showing up and talking. But just like an employee in any job when they left parks house, they didn't show much interest in building the show. They brought not much more then talking to the show. That deserves a check. Not a percentage.

The salary would have been more. They were just over it.

@@hippipdip why wouldn't they accept more money?? 🤔

He pretty much made it simple! How you don't understand is wild! He offered a number, they didn't want it! 🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

@@christopheredwards8427 dont even argue fam you know people just wanna hate joe cause it's easy

Exactly!!! He never take accountability for nothing. Dude is just toxic.

So you want Joe to be accountable for other grown men's decisions...?

@@christopheredwards8427 he tried to play it like the salary was gonna be more money for them this nigga still tried to spin it while taking so called accountability

And we haven't heard from the girls since. They weren't a draw to being with.

And Spotify and Complex and Joell Ortiz and Crook and Eminem and Charlemagne and..

@@blockwriters5728 both can be true. They could’ve not been a big draw while also not have had a good working relationship with joe

@@Watchingvideoslikeu I'll bet a stack they never had partnership paperwork in the Joe Budden podcast as a legal entity. Not EVER!!! And that partnership paperwork would've contained an operating agreement that specified fixed percentages for all profits generated and /or shares of the Joe Budden Podcast company to the aforementioned parties. I ain't ever heard Rory and Mal mention their partnership stakes in the Joe Budden Podcast in any of their complaints about Joe. They were employees, not partners. They assumed they were partners because they were friends. They didn't set the partnership in writing. How you gonna tell the owner of the brand you ain't taking a salary from them and you ain't in a legal owner/partnership with them? You don't have any basis or standing for dispute. And as the owner and the literal brand itself, Joes has a right to specify salaries to subordinates and/or contractors.

@@Bundles06 don't forget Wu. Rest in Peace Ol' Dirty

I dont get why most these fools in the comments dont get that. Street mentality will never win with proper paperwork and business signatures. Specially when you’re emotionally involved with speculation.

They had a percentage based partnership that Joe didn't pay and tried to swindle them out of with his janky accounting. Definitely happens more frequently than ppl care to admit.

He made these niggas millionaires. I never heard of them before the pid

ALSO IF YOU WOULD DIE FOR A CHECK WEEKLY THEN GO GET A JOB JOE.

He was talking about during his rap career. You mfs don’t listen or only hear what you want to hear🤦🏽‍♂️

@@barrekelly he could have had his rap career and get a pay check. Same with love and hip hop.

I understood it different... he not used to a Job but he would like to have that... he wouldn't take thr salary thing now cause he used to gettin paid depending on his work n how good it is... he not tryna do numbers n get the same as if he dont...

His issue with complex wasn’t salary it was them having to market products and not get a cut. That’s extra not salary!!!!

Yeah this ish growing on me cant lie

Same

Ditto... Nasty Joe... Nasty!

Man I couldn’t even finish this clip. That man trash 🗑

Word Salad

He’s a pathological liar

@@juallen4396 you didn’t read my statement correctly, has nothing to do with a zodiac.

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Joe said he is talking "in hindsight". Pay attention.

@@Eiuol81853 your name sounds like a virus that hasn’t been discovered yet. Hindsight doesn’t matter when you’ve said what you said Pay attention euiol

Which is wtf mal and rory should've done. We in buisness now its not personal just buisness. Lawyer up and go over that black and white.

@@jasonwilliams9307 Yes, this is true. Ice and Ish didnt want to make the same mistakes trying to work out contracts/negotiating directly with Joe so they hired Managers to that. And since Joe brings it up now every other Pod, LOL, he is feeling a way about it. But Ice don't care that Joe don't like it. It's just a smart business move like you said. If anyone treats podcating like a business, it's definitely Ice. LOL.

Real talk

Joe is super toxic

And then he wants to talk in riddles about it. He had to go through all of that just to say he was putting pre payout money in other things. Like Rory and Mal said they money was helping fund other new podcasts that had better production than them. Something that they never agreed to. That's why he brought up that he got paid off "net" too.

And he still worth more then you.

I wish I had his fails…. 😐. Cause I know I don’t want YOURS…. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Non factor haters… lol

He basically said it was money.

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Many secrets

You don’t learn s**t in his interviews!

Well...what is he saying that he's not and why?what I'm hearing is he was putting in the work while they was putting in half the work but receiving the same ...but they feeling themselves to much to notice..and look like a asshole for saying it ..so he walking on eggshells so he dont look a way...thats what I get.

@Stacey Martin that is not what happened .. Mal and Rory wanted to see the books.. Joe wouldn't let them or kept dancing around it delaying them.. This cause Mal and Rory to question why someone would do that (especially a friend).. And the only logical conclusion is there's something to hide!I Joe playing semantics by saying "we have creative differences" when it has nothing to do with the creative part, it's the business part, is a clear sign of his narcissistic mentality.. The fact Joe said himself "it's my podcast on my channel I don't have to" shows what type of time he was on (which again is ok in business but don't make out your friendship is more important and your a stand up dude with your ride or dies when clearly that isn't the case.early Granted Rory and Mal should of had their business in order from the start BUT if we friends like that and the show grew with and because of the two co hosts (which it did) why would you want your so called "friends" to be in salaries instead of having ownership WHICH JOE IS A ADVOCATE FOR?! It's backward and contradicting so I can say I smell a d rider or disingenuous person when they try miss the actual reason to push Joes deluded version 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@azlstrhl end of the day it’s his show, we all knew of budden before the pod. Rory and mal were barely known, Joe has the name it’s his show of course he runs it. This friendship thing is clouding y’all head, they didn’t do equal work to be paid equal. If they were equals they wouldn’t have had that little strike on the show. Workers go on strike, the boss (joe) shows up and has to get it done no matter what because its HIS business.

3 sides to every story

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And he didn't have to, that's his shit! Nigga I pay you what I want to pay you! Tf lol... It's simple!

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That's legit the opposite of equity partnership

And unfortunately for the co-hosts, Joe doesn't owe them any accounting. He was signed to Spotify, they weren't. Thats Joe's contract. Not Rory and Mal's

@@mauricestewart8472 the podcast was signed to Spotify. not joe by himself.

He's completely FOS

They do. That’s why no one is responding. He’s over explaining himself bc joe knows he was gettin more money than them.

@@Thisguyrod he owned the network. He get paid twice as talent and owner. Why ppl don’t understand that?

@@Thisguyrod and he shouldn’t? He owns the platform. Them niggas was contractors and ain’t know it

@@stbcurt4250 That's their fault for not understanding they were contractors. If they were partners in the company, they should have an operating agreement specifying their partnership percentages, shares, etc. They were never partners.

Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean he ain’t saying nothing lmaoo

His fan just don't get it

Lol and these niggas eat it up😂

a narcissit

Facts, its a completely new playing field. Joe just sees the floodgates about to happen and wanted complete ownership and crontrol. Wanted employees and not business partners

@@damogreen2560 could you blame him? His name is the shows title. I never thought it was anyone's show besides his.

Facts

@@Money6366 It didn't start that way. It was I'll Name This Podcast Later until episode 108.

Plus in the past when explaining his side he tried to make it out like he was trying to give everybody a raise. But without showing the real certified accounting. How are they supposed to even know if that is really a raise without seeing the paperwork?

Or, and hear me out…it was a completely hypocritical example

@@firstname2022 😂😂

@5thElementSandwhich You must be Mal or Rory in disguise

@@timoaksproductions no. I’m just someone who has the ability to be objective, while at the same time being a fan. I like Joe, but he stay capping. He can’t be trusted with the bag. We all know someone like that, and have kept them at a distance unless otherwise necessary.

He is good too. He can twist things just enough to get you to drop it and move on.

What did he lie about?🤣 Yall act like if he said "I didn't want to show them the accounting so they left"... it would be the truth somehow.🤣

@@zetsutsuletsu2034 right i know joe is easy to hate but what makes anyone else more credible than him. Niggas will listen to literally anyone say something and believe that as fact over joe

We should be lucky he doesn't study a particular discipline that can really help him do this far better than he does on his own

Joes ability to lie is both his best gift and worst curse

They was his roommates …at first not really day 1s. . Right !! I don’t see why he should have held on to them

Greediness!!!!!

money is your friend, ( it’s who you want to always see and have with you ) fuck people ! they disappoint always ( who wants to still see them? please )

@@sonicmagnus5312 the realness right here can't put your trust in mankind

For some reason he still don't. it's like he needs co-host

naw,Joe the pod father..he can knock them shitsbout on his own,just him and parks

Listening to joe for 3 hrs twice a week plus pateron is Disgusting

Facts

Literally told Rory the writing was on the wall

How do you know he's lying?

@@flygenyus2186 not really. It fell off after a few episodes

Charlemagne told them

My older brother said the same thing. Naming it “the joe Budden podcast” was a bad idea.

Man a partnership doesn't start with a name change you have to PUT MONEY UP. They never did so they have no claim to ownership

@@coachtali5151 that’s where you’re wrong, they all contributed. Joes podcast was also trash before Rory came, then Mal shortly after… money doesn’t equal ownership that’s a fact. There’s a reason ideas and voices are valued the way they are. Joe would even be here if it was for Peter Rosenberg.

No one in there right mind would take a salary not knowing what the overall money was… why would someone take 3 mil a year if you making 300 mil a year???

Mal Is Related To Biggs.. The Co Founder Of Roc A Fella Records.. He And JayZ Look At Each Other As Family.. Trust Me Joe Didn’t “MAKE” Him..

@@QuiseKirilenko bruh😭😭😭 who GAF about him sitting in a studio for a few Jay Z tracks 💀💀💀”Rory and Mal” came from Joe Budden podcast lol they didn’t even know eachother 🤣

@@AliFrankTheTank Rory Worked For Sony Records Sir.. And Mal Was Established Before The Pod As Well.. How About Say Joe Made Them Famous.. But Made Them In General?? Negative.. No He Didn’t.. Rory And Joe Started The Pod Together.. Rory’s Name Is In The Description Of Episode 1 Rory Is The Person Who Used To Put Together The Pods When They First Started.. That’s Documented, All You Have To Do Is Research It. Rory Also Had Henny Poluzza Poppin As Well They Even Sold Out The Barclays.. And The Pod Wasnt Taking Off In Popularity Until Mal Arrived Thats Also Documented From Joe Budden Himself. They Covered That In Episode 200.. It’s Okay To Be A Joe Stan. But Dont Be Bias..

@@QuiseKirilenko Nigga you typed a whole buncha cap and nonsense but only thing i’ll reply to is that Joe Budden Views rant on Drake is what got that pod buzzing 💀💀 and Sony records??? nigga they killed micheal jackson who cares

Ugh I don't see ish and ice as much difference ..

they know their role