Joe FRAZIER v "Buster" MATHIS. MARCH 4th 1968.

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Gary Wilson Classic Boxing

Gary Wilson Classic Boxing

3 жыл бұрын

FRAZIER stops MATHIS via TKO in the 11th round.
"SMOKIN JOE" at his best.

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@isabellamcloughlan6082
@isabellamcloughlan6082 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a decent copy of Frazier/Mathis for years! Great, thank you Gary Wilson.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, it means a lot that people appreciate the channel and some of the fights i upload.
@newwave3495
@newwave3495 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's awesome thank you Gary
@rey9076
@rey9076 3 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful video to watch. The dance of Frazier and Mathis was breathtaking. In a time where things seemed so pure and classic. The simplicity of the commercials, the whistles and roars of the crowd. Everything from the voice of the announcer to the dramatic knockout was just poetic.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, very kind comments, are you Rey Perez the boxer?
@zaymoney252
@zaymoney252 9 ай бұрын
24 year old Joe Frazier time really flies.. A bygone era even if you were in your 20s at this time you’re in you’re late 70s and eighties today just think how many ppl that were alive in 1968 which would be billions across the world at the time are mostly dead in 2023.. Appreciate life it goes by fast
@SimplyThatGuy12
@SimplyThatGuy12 2 ай бұрын
agreed. crazy how 2020 was already 4 years ago for example.
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 3 жыл бұрын
Bless you Bro for providing these extremely rare fights.They dont make Em like these guys no more🥊
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome and thank you for taking the time to watch and check out my channel, i do appreciate it!
@herbertmische8660
@herbertmische8660 2 жыл бұрын
Great, fantastic and immortal Joe Frazier!!! Respect forever!!!
@Butterbean569
@Butterbean569 3 жыл бұрын
Just listened to Fraziers biography on audible, great stuff!!! My favorite athlete ever!!
@haroldfloyd5518
@haroldfloyd5518 3 жыл бұрын
After Joe finished battering you senseless you WISH he had knocked you out in round one! He’s like some bruising NFL running back who gets stronger in the fourth quarter.
@stevecvino
@stevecvino 2 жыл бұрын
Essentially he's John Riggins.
@ancientarchie1463
@ancientarchie1463 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevecvino EXACTLY!! And I did roadwork with Joe in '78
@kingdomofanimaria
@kingdomofanimaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@ancientarchie1463 who was better joe or OJ
@bmon3100
@bmon3100 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah except RB’s don’t last as long as Smokin Joe did…
@gringodelsur7971
@gringodelsur7971 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier was indestructible from 1968 to 1971. after 71, frazier gained a lot of weight and his punches and head movement and speed slowed down a lot. at 205 pounds, frazier was an animal. he lost that speed once he started fight at 215 plus pounds.he also lost some power in his left hook because since his speed slowed down and was heavier, he couldn't deliver the same speed and force from his left hook.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely, he didn't knock down and out fight Ali by accident, he was a great fighter in his own right.
@drobson8004
@drobson8004 3 жыл бұрын
@@gringodelsur7971 He knocked Ali down and he out fought him
@japsley6172
@japsley6172 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, good comment. During those years, he was definitely the best. Smoking Joe!
@user-sf6cy5lw8n
@user-sf6cy5lw8n 3 жыл бұрын
Gringo del sur I would say from 1964 to 1971 .
@hammer44head
@hammer44head 3 жыл бұрын
There is an interview with George Foreman after the 1st fight with Joe where Foreman said he knew, his camp knew that Joe was partying a lot since Joes bout with Ali, after Joe beat ALi it was like there was nothing else to accomplish and Joe partying and got himself out of fighting shape. joe was fat and overconfident against George and got his ass kicked.
@sportshistorybuff
@sportshistorybuff 2 жыл бұрын
As one documentary stated, 100 Frazier hooks to the stomach did their work in cutting Mathis down to size. Every round, it was more obvious how much pain/nausea Buster was in, in how he increasingly bent over, bringing his head dangerously close to Joe's fists.
@Da_Publick
@Da_Publick 8 ай бұрын
You said it, this is Smokin' Joe at his very best. Buster Mathis was no joke! Also, thank you for including these commercials. Younger people should be able to fully experience the Friday Night Fights. Now, UFC is serving that need.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
That stare down was intense. You know Smokin Joe wanted this one bad after losing to him as an amateur.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Frazier 68/72 was a beast of a fighter.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
@@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson absolutely. They don't make em like Smokin Joe anymore. When he turns around for the first round against Ali, he looked like animal that's about to chase his prey.
@johnd.597
@johnd.597 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t so much Joe’s fault, anyways. Mathis had his trunks so high that legitimate body shots were counted as fouls.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnd.597 so I've heard. As much as I love Joe, he hit close to low on some occasions so with hiked up trunks, it's definitely gonna make him look bad.
@SCORP1ONF1RE
@SCORP1ONF1RE Жыл бұрын
Who else thinks Joe is waaay underrated on the p4p lists? I mean, just imagine what would've happened if he was Ali's size.
@TheReal_GigaChad
@TheReal_GigaChad Жыл бұрын
Today he would be at cruiserweight, imagine the domination he would have in that division.
@oneeyedman99
@oneeyedman99 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that reach is such an overwhelming advantage; there have been too many great champions with a short reach. They seemi to have an inherent advantage once they get inside.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 2 жыл бұрын
Size difference is absurd. Mathis was a huge heavyweight back in those days
@entertainingsportshighligh7525
@entertainingsportshighligh7525 Жыл бұрын
And a FAT one, lol
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 Жыл бұрын
@@entertainingsportshighligh7525 fat but pretty slick and agile
@jrupp8853
@jrupp8853 3 жыл бұрын
Buster Mathis threw some solid shots at Frazier and had suprising stamina for a big man. Just imagine how much he would have benefited slimmed down with a trainer like Eddie Futch...
@hammer44head
@hammer44head 3 жыл бұрын
Buster was a talented fighter but according to most that knew him and worked with him professionally Buster just wasnt fully committed to boxing, some even thought he really didnt want to hurt anyone.Not dissing Buster at all, some folks just aint cut out for the bloodsport of boxing.
@jrupp8853
@jrupp8853 3 жыл бұрын
@@hammer44head oh, I agree! It take a special kind of person to enter the boxing ring knowing the dangers.
@davissinclair4945
@davissinclair4945 Жыл бұрын
Joe in his book said that Buster Mathis was too nice of a guy and didn't really want to put in the work to be a great fighter. Buster was a decent heavyweight, not a great heavyweight.
@jrupp8853
@jrupp8853 Жыл бұрын
@@davissinclair4945 Well good enough for being number two contender for half of the heavyweight title. I agree with you that there were more much deserving of a shot. The problem is both Ali and Frazier had already beaten most of them.
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 3 жыл бұрын
1:52 look at the way Joe stares Buster down,standing stalk still while Buster is rocking back and forth,this is EXACTLY how George stared Joe down,standing stalk still while Joe was rocking back and forth.
@jamespierce8096
@jamespierce8096 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Tyson vs Nckneely stare down
@spaceseed33rd89
@spaceseed33rd89 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video and fight! I love how the old commercials are included. I just basically stumbled upon your channel being a boxing fan myself and now have a new subscriber!💪🏾🇵🇷
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers thank you, great to see people enjoying the fights, very much appreciated sir.
@ajaypalsingh5243
@ajaypalsingh5243 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier was a great boxer. Equal to Muhammad Ali. Very cool. Very disciplined. Very human. I love him equal to Muhammad Ali.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Frazier certainly was a great fighter no question, anyone who outworks & knocks down the great Muhammad Ali over 15 rounds was his equal, in my opinion.
@davidevans6072
@davidevans6072 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping those old commercials in. I was 10 years old in 1968 and I remember some of them.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
Man. Joe threw his punches with such conviction. If he made you fall, you'd hate to get back up just to take more of that. If you did get up, it's hard to go back into the trenches with him with the bravery you once had. Smokin Joe was a scary man.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Joe 68/72 was a beast of a fighter who seemed to get stronger as the fight worn on, that can be seen in his first outing with Ali. He wasn't quite the same by the time he fought Foreman but could still give most fighters a run for their money.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
@@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson it almost seemed to me that Frazier kind of gave it his all to beat Ali in 71. Not to say he was done after that but he gave so much to win. Even if only for a moment, he looked unstoppable though
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ffeoli1039 Absolutely, he was a pressure fighter & history states they tend to have a shortened career when compared with boxers who look to use their reach & stay out of harms way.
@mailman1052
@mailman1052 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed bro🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️🙏
@black_David_Frost.
@black_David_Frost. 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson No non-American heavyweight is ever going to be widely considered GOAT. The national and nostalgia bias of the boxing community is absolutely ridiculous. These all time rankings are a complete joke, bought and paid for by deep state elites. Even Lennox is ranked outside of the top 10 by the Ring and BoxRec. Liston is ranked over Lewis and Wlad by the Ring despite being a can crusher with literally 1 title defense. Wlad is the only non-American ranked within the top ten on either list and despite being the longest reigning champ ever with the most opponents beaten in title fights he still somehow comes up below Dempsey and Patterson of all people. Oh and apparently Lennox Lewis doesn't measure up to Harry Wills lol. Follow the money trails for answers.
@paulgarcia9825
@paulgarcia9825 Жыл бұрын
Frazier was an amazing specimen of a fighter! Head movement, short tight punches to the body and head, leverage on his punches, constantly moving, punches thrown with pin point accuracy. Such precision! Like an artist! Physical genius but he burned out early, like Tyson. Frazier trained and fought with such intensity that his body gave out. But at his best, he was awesome.
@princeblizzard8912
@princeblizzard8912 Жыл бұрын
Classic joe Frazier breakdown of a opponent. Work the body and the rest is History..SMOKIN JOE FRAZIER!
@galapagos4154
@galapagos4154 Ай бұрын
Çok teşekkürler. Ayrıca 1968 reklamları güzel bir nostaljiydi 🙏🙏
@sportshistorybuff319
@sportshistorybuff319 Жыл бұрын
In his autobiography, Frazier described the difference between himself and Buster, calling Mathis a nice guy who really had no killer instinct, not a natural predator. Frazier was ruthless in taking out his opponents, admitting he would knock his own mother out of the ring if she tried to take away his title. Joe could not believe how casual and carefree Mathis was in Tokyo when he had to bow out due to a hand injury, laughing and smiling, wishing Frazier good luck. "You'd never know this guy had just lost an opportunity to fight for his country and an Olympic medal!" Before the injury it was said Buster was the life of the Olympic village, athletes from other countries attracted to his charm and smile.
@user-so2mo1mw1d
@user-so2mo1mw1d 8 ай бұрын
Corey Roberts, I knew the late buster Mathis,sr. He was a hell of a boxer, and a great man to talk too!! Rest in peace Big buster Mathis!!!
@fauziaissaka4368
@fauziaissaka4368 3 жыл бұрын
In retrospect the more I listen to Don Dunphy's fight commentary the more I appreciate Howard Cosell.
@plane7
@plane7 2 жыл бұрын
lol.
@loyaldude10
@loyaldude10 Жыл бұрын
Cosell was much more incisive and informative
@rickallen8158
@rickallen8158 3 жыл бұрын
Four years earlier, Mathis beat Frazier in the finals of the Olympic trials and was to be the USA heavyweight representative at the Olympics in Tokyo that year but he injured his hand so Frazier went in his place and won a gold medal; the rest is history!,,,
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Mathis was an excellent amateur and pro, heavy but that didn't seem to affect him., i recall his son turning pro and didn't quite have what it took, kind of like Frazier's son, it wasn't really there. What do you reckon on Frazier v Tyson? I think Frazier could have beaten Mike, i recently saw footage of Frazier sparring Ken Norton and he battered him, there are only a select few who i would pick over Frazier.
@rickallen8158
@rickallen8158 3 жыл бұрын
Frazier vs. Tyson is a tough pick. Frazier was a slow starter, needed 2 rounds under his belt to get going, Tyson was the opposite; if Tyson didn’t get him early, Frazier would have wore him down and knocked him out in later rounds, Mike was a strong puncher but had a stamina problem if he was pressed to go hard against an opponent who was hitting him back for several rounds, the Holyfield and Douglas fights proved that,,,
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickallen8158 I agree with that, for Tyson to have defeated Frazier it would had to have been by early KO.
@dankemo3169
@dankemo3169 3 жыл бұрын
@@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson Tyson had trouble against inside fighters. Joe Frazier's head would be on Tyson's chest for 12 rounds. Frazier was bigger than Tyson. Tyson 5.10. Frazier nearly 6 feet. same weight 215 pounds. Frazier won against tougher opponents. had stamina and knock out power for 15 rounds. Tyson had 5 rounds or 6 rounds of stamina. Frazier never ever got KO-ed and only George Foreman managed and bit him up TKO. Tyson got KO-ed by bums. So I think Frazier at his best would bit Tyson at his best. and overall Frazier was a greater boxer than Tyson. easily in the top 5.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
@@dankemo3169 Thank you so much for spending the time to look at my video's & channel, i do appreciate it, cheers!
@jesusneverexisted300
@jesusneverexisted300 2 жыл бұрын
Smokin' Joe reminds me of a pack of army ants destroying a prey. He's just relentless and you can't stop him once he gets on you.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 2 жыл бұрын
I like that comparison
@ajaypalsingh5243
@ajaypalsingh5243 2 жыл бұрын
He defeated Ali when Ali was in full form. A great achievement. A great boxer and great human.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
He was a great champion no doubt.
@reinaldomanuel8488
@reinaldomanuel8488 2 жыл бұрын
Ali was coming out of a tree year lay of gtfo
@jorgeribeiro6307
@jorgeribeiro6307 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinaldomanuel8488 its not like Ali didn't fight tho, he did some fights in Canada during that time
@RobRivShowsLive01
@RobRivShowsLive01 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinaldomanuel8488 Was That An Oak Tree Ali Was Laid Off?
@hemadayal7815
@hemadayal7815 2 жыл бұрын
u talkin' thru your ass ajay...ali was past his prime...hadn't boxed for a l o n g TIME...
@BruceAChristie
@BruceAChristie 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Frazier win and huge justification for replacing BM in Olympics. In the interview after the fight, Joe’s language was clear and lucid. Compare that to his speech patterns after 2000 and it’s quite remarkable.
@keithcampbell6806
@keithcampbell6806 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon the replacement was only because of injury. I don't understand your comment.
@BruceAChristie
@BruceAChristie Жыл бұрын
@@keithcampbell6806 Frazier would have felt proud that he had passed Mathis, as a boxer. It’s more of a personal victory, but significant. Plus F had managed to win the gold medal so he must have felt destined to succeed. My other point was how articulate he was after the Mathis bout, as a young fighter.
@ssviking81
@ssviking81 10 ай бұрын
@@BruceAChristie I understand your point about how Frazier felt after this bout since Mathis defeated Smokin' Joe at the 1964 Olympic Trials. It was sweet revenge.
@abgodsson1585
@abgodsson1585 Жыл бұрын
Joe was so good before the first Ali fight. After that month or whatever in the hospital, he was never the same
@Levi-1992
@Levi-1992 3 жыл бұрын
Pressure, pressure, pressure!!
@Theiron2142
@Theiron2142 3 жыл бұрын
Wow the commercials are a blast from the past.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they bring back memories.
@lamonthunt8711
@lamonthunt8711 Ай бұрын
Joe had a super star left hook and a great but underrated right hand. That right, at times, set up some classic left hooks for Joe. RIP CHAMP.
@RonnieGorotto
@RonnieGorotto 4 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier was indestructible from 1968 to 197Foreman.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 4 ай бұрын
He certainly was, those were Frazier's peak years.
@hammer44head
@hammer44head 3 жыл бұрын
I really think this fight was an important one for Joe, Mathis did have some wonderful footwork and agility for such a big man, jOe really learns to cut off the ring in this fight against Mathis that would prove to be very valuable to Joe in the future when he fought Ali. Not that Buster was in Ali's class of speed but Buster was agile and on his toes. I think this experience not only for a championship recognition but for learning to cut off the ring was an important step for Smokin Joe.
@Fhita1962
@Fhita1962 8 ай бұрын
Love the commercials! Brings back memories.
@acetofresh1
@acetofresh1 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest myth in boxing particularly the legendary heavyweight division is that size and weight are insurmountable. If you genuinely believe Klitschko and Fury beat all historical heavyweights, and that Dempsey,Ali, Joe Louis couldn't beat any modern ones I suggest you join a gym.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis at 6'1.25" & a peak weight of 200 pounds knocked out many a big man and did it very grand🙂
@janswart2705
@janswart2705 Жыл бұрын
Frazier's three greatest wins were at MSG: v Mathis, Ellis and Ali
@stevecvino
@stevecvino Жыл бұрын
And Quarry
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside Ай бұрын
What a beat down. Joe dished out a lot of punishment, like a machine.
@user-so2mo1mw1d
@user-so2mo1mw1d 8 ай бұрын
Corey roberts, it was always a pleasure, to talk to buster mathis, sr.
@captainkirkchevnomo
@captainkirkchevnomo 3 жыл бұрын
Mathis holds throughout the fight. Sign of FEAR!
@spaniardsrk5108
@spaniardsrk5108 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this fight after listening to joes autobriography on audible, free right now for members. The book really made me appreciate the man behind the gloves. I always liked his style of boxing, but hardly any programing went in depth with joe. Joe is a stand up guy , really admirable. I recommend everyone read/listen to his book.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment & spending the time to watch the video, much appreciated, cheers!
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
I've read just about every Smokin Joe book out there. All the auto biographies are good but a good short read would be "Smokin Joe Frazier, Eternal Badass:Life Lessons from a Legend" extremely entertaining, written by some guy who was trained by him.
@sanchez5963
@sanchez5963 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ffeoli1039 hey man, I just saw the book but I’m a little short on money, I was wondering if there were a free version of it somewhere. I really want to read that book.
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanchez5963 I believe you can get a free trial on kindle and read it
@sanchez5963
@sanchez5963 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ffeoli1039 Do you have the pdf version? If you do, could you maybe send that to me?
@leodrosia4369
@leodrosia4369 Жыл бұрын
Smoke and Marciano were probably the best ever lighter heavyweights
@russellfrancis6294
@russellfrancis6294 8 ай бұрын
I liked the fact that Jim McKay assigned the form of address; announcer to the right man, the ring announcer as opposed to the commentator.
@Lil-Lucky103
@Lil-Lucky103 2 жыл бұрын
Earned a new sub for this one bro💯
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, cheers.
@Lil-Lucky103
@Lil-Lucky103 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson nah fam thank you
@TheFastFreddy
@TheFastFreddy Жыл бұрын
Frazier saw nothing but a big 240+lbs of targeted meat
@jamespierce8096
@jamespierce8096 Жыл бұрын
To have been able to get a 1968 Ali vs Frazier fight would have been a gem...those 3 yrs of Ali's prime .damn
@sportshistorybuff319
@sportshistorybuff319 5 ай бұрын
The epitome of a slow motion knockout. Frazier's last punch, a glancing blow almost easy to miss, was the finishing touch on eleven rounds of pummelling, the cherry on the sundae. I almost wonder if Mathis was so dizzy and tired he was ready to fall without even being hit. It was like Joe was Captain Ahab with unlimited harpoons and Buster was the White Whale. "Tharrrr she bloooooows!!!!"
@mauricegilliam7102
@mauricegilliam7102 3 жыл бұрын
There is no love lost between Mathis and Frazier. Goes back to olympic trials.
@FighterGlory
@FighterGlory 4 ай бұрын
Both Men were Great Performers in the Ring! Frazier wore Mathis down over the long haul and Stopped him!
@ancientarchie1463
@ancientarchie1463 2 жыл бұрын
The size difference here was amazing! Mathis was big as a middle linebacker at the time (same size as Butkus) and Joe was not only barely out of cruiser in weight, but in fact at best 5'10 NOT 5.11.5 anymore than Tyson was. You can see where Buster's style and stamina would work for the amateurs, but Joe's for the pros. This fight was a perfectly tuned chainsaw against a wet log.
@ancientarchie1463
@ancientarchie1463 2 жыл бұрын
@marshall Selvarajan 5'10 max. His son told me 5'10 but Foreman said "Joe never saw 5'10." When I stood eye to eye to shake hands with Joe after roadwork together I felt at least 2" taller and I'm 6 even.
@evanbarr9270
@evanbarr9270 2 жыл бұрын
Mathis really hit Frazier with some shots ,and came to FIGHT and still Frazier destroys him..You have to wonder did Ali see this fight ?
@joshuatree5620
@joshuatree5620 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanbarr9270 Ali saw this fight but his ego got in the way of seeing Fraziers Strengths.
@andrewr62
@andrewr62 5 ай бұрын
That titanic left hook by Frazier to the stomach did Mathis in. It was just a matter of time after that.
@newwave3495
@newwave3495 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff I love it
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers thank you, Frazier 68/72 was a beast of a fighter no doubt.
@FirstLast-vl1uy
@FirstLast-vl1uy 2 жыл бұрын
Mathis constantly giving up his height and crouching down like Frazier and not moving. Its like walking into a wasp nest. I dont know if that was something his corner had him do or if it was a bad habit but it was stupid and may be the main reason he lost . You never give up your height if you are taller and you never crouch down to the level of your opponent if hes a croucher and you certainly never crouch down and just stay there without moving at all.
@rjsheen5241
@rjsheen5241 Жыл бұрын
I think Joe’s body punches forced Buster to crouch. He was in pain. Joe always said that once you kill the body, the head is there for the asking!
@FirstLast-vl1uy
@FirstLast-vl1uy Жыл бұрын
@@rjsheen5241 Good point. Frazier's body attack is what beat the better fighters and you see Mathis crouch down after he gets hit to the body several times. the thing is though, crouching down like that actually makes your body more vulnerable. You take your head away from the punches but your body becomes exposed with no defense and no eyes to see the punches coming.
@gregscavuzzo5457
@gregscavuzzo5457 19 күн бұрын
Frazier looks like a small Mike Tyson when Tyson was fighting under Cus and Kevin Rooney
@rudimwongozi2169
@rudimwongozi2169 2 ай бұрын
The commercials though. They actually told people that cigarettes taste good.
@winstondurden4427
@winstondurden4427 Жыл бұрын
'Frasier coming in like Dempsey and Marciano' it's amazing that Don Dunfy saw so many great fighters. By the way, who wins: Fraser VS Marciano?
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson Жыл бұрын
Marciano stops Frazier late on, too heavy handed, though i won't argue with anyone who believes Frazier would have pulled it off, both great.
@winstondurden4427
@winstondurden4427 Жыл бұрын
It's a fight between two tanks... so hard to call. How about prime Frasier vs Tyson...?
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson Жыл бұрын
@@winstondurden4427 Going to get myself into trouble with viewers, the Frazier who beat Ali would have survived a torrid opener to slowly impose his will on Tyson, stopping him late. I do regard 80's Tyson as a great fighter & could see him stopping Frazier early as Joe was a notoriously slow starter but would lean towards him stopping Tyson late.
@russellwilliams3659
@russellwilliams3659 Жыл бұрын
Yo.. that’s a great question I think they go 15 Marciano out points joe
@stevecvino
@stevecvino Жыл бұрын
​@@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson I agree if Tyson doesn't get him out early someone's going to start smokin and it won't be Mike.
@daviddelgado6090
@daviddelgado6090 11 күн бұрын
Buster could not avoid Frazier's left. Joe hit hard.
@smndeisel144
@smndeisel144 2 жыл бұрын
If size really mattered, mathis was supposed to knock frazier out at least in round 2.. but as u can see size dont mean nothing when u have the heart of a 🦁 rip frazier
@surrealistidealist
@surrealistidealist 3 ай бұрын
How would this version of Joe Frazier do against Sonny Liston? I think he could win. And I think his version of him could beat Foreman, too.
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 3 ай бұрын
I'd pick Frazier 68/72 to beat Liston, though i'm not sure on Foreman, i suspect it would always have been a bad style match up for Joe, though he may have done a little better.
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 3 күн бұрын
Not a chance he beats Liston, at any stage of his career. None. Or George for that matter.
@user-gs6uu4rk6z
@user-gs6uu4rk6z 2 ай бұрын
Excellent quality plus the absence of horrible Howard Cosell? that is superb
@iswhatheis
@iswhatheis 2 жыл бұрын
that golfer in that car ad lowkey straight up talkin smack to his opponent
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 2 жыл бұрын
13:32 ate that shit for breakfast lunch and dinner
@evanbarr9270
@evanbarr9270 8 ай бұрын
Frazier was ready for Ali at this time ,if they had fought in 1968 it would have been a even better fight .
@ariveitz1941
@ariveitz1941 4 ай бұрын
I have to give credit to Buster Mathis he hamdles Koe way better than Ali ever did and man those hands were fast!!
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 3 күн бұрын
Um, Ali beat Joe twice. 🙄
@matizaph
@matizaph 3 жыл бұрын
Mathis really gave up his height against Frazier. That was his only mistake.
@darkeddie4546
@darkeddie4546 Жыл бұрын
That's the left hook that put Ali down to the canvas
@sportshistorybuff319
@sportshistorybuff319 Жыл бұрын
Thinking of large heavies who struggled with their weight, how would a fight go between Buster Mathis and Buster Douglas? Would the stream of sweat have created a slip and slide? Would either have stood a chance against Riddick Bowe?
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson Жыл бұрын
Hard to predict as both guys were underachievers, though talented & capable of pulling off an upset. If pushed i would say Douglas beats Mathis. As for Bowe, on paper, i would favour him to beat both guys but with reservation, Bowe was often troubled with boxers who could move & jab but all that said, if focused & fit, he beats them.
@ssviking81
@ssviking81 3 жыл бұрын
Joe was always "Smokin"
@jamesmonroe6
@jamesmonroe6 2 жыл бұрын
Great fighters
@gregscavuzzo5457
@gregscavuzzo5457 19 күн бұрын
Remember Mathis Jr fighting Tyson, Dad stopped the fight
@SuperHtownswag
@SuperHtownswag 10 ай бұрын
jeez look at all the blood on buster mathis' shorts
@keithcampbell6806
@keithcampbell6806 14 күн бұрын
Good morning Buster Mathis was a very good boxer who with discipline could've achieved more as a boxer. Like his namesake Buster Douglas big tall skillfull but lacked the discipline to get and stay in shape. Joe is one of my favourite boxers but as a sports fanatic l have learned to be honest and objective in my analysis.
@MikeSmith-cn6ub
@MikeSmith-cn6ub Жыл бұрын
I'm going to look up Jim Bower that won the combined in Switzerland 🇨🇭
@ancientarchie1463
@ancientarchie1463 2 жыл бұрын
why not knockdown at 25:34?! Buster punched and Joe went down. So DUMB for Buster to lean over and in to Joe like that! So much for using his reach and height
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
It was deemed a slip but could have been ruled a knockdown, close call.
@atheistleopard618
@atheistleopard618 3 жыл бұрын
Frazier was a glass act-no racist/racial comments from him at all, unlike that clay fellow who made his loss vs joe a racial issue. *Just fuckin box ffs people*
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like to bad mouth Ali too much. Great fighter even though I don't agree with his racial views most of the time. But yes, Joe only was malicious towards one man and it's hard to blame him. Besides that, Joe was a classy man with a big heart and even bigger heart outside the ring, as impossible as that seems to be.
@atheistleopard618
@atheistleopard618 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ffeoli1039 i dont care. fuck ali/clay
@arnoldmagqaza7860
@arnoldmagqaza7860 Жыл бұрын
FOH!!
@atheistleopard618
@atheistleopard618 Жыл бұрын
@@arnoldmagqaza7860 front of house? wtf
@arnoldmagqaza7860
@arnoldmagqaza7860 Жыл бұрын
@@atheistleopard618 Fuck outta here with your bullshit
@johndickson76
@johndickson76 Ай бұрын
Smokin Joe feared no one
@GoldenGateNum9
@GoldenGateNum9 Жыл бұрын
Frazier was such a baddass, he's like a pit ball, someone like George Foreman being afraid of him in their prime is saying something.
@3rdStoneObliterum
@3rdStoneObliterum 3 жыл бұрын
***WOW MATHIS IS INTENSE --- FAST LIKE A CAT --- REALLY MAKES FRAZIER LOOK RATHER ORDINARY --- FOREMAN I'M SURE LEARNED A LOT FROM WATCHING THIS FIGHT***
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
Foreman learnt from watching his 1st title defence against Ramos. Ramos delivered a thunderous right uppercut that nearly floored the newly crowned champion. Foreman took that on board in there title fight 1973, and delivered a uppercut that dramatically destroyed Frazier
@keith3970
@keith3970 5 ай бұрын
And now.....let's hear from the experts.
@PwerhisyoPinsala-oq9xy
@PwerhisyoPinsala-oq9xy 7 ай бұрын
Begun being older and slowly aging of time
@lonewonderer9771
@lonewonderer9771 2 жыл бұрын
Fraizer was outweighed by nearly 40 pounds, people forget that heavyweights arent the only good punchers/boxers, this proves it by practically a cruiserweight stopping a heavyweight...
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Holyfield was essentially a cruiserweight who built himself up to take on the big boys & did very well at it, beating the likes of Foreman, Bowe, Mercer, Moorer & Tyson & became the first man to drop Mercer & Bowe, it was quite remarkable what he achieved when you consider his natural weight was 13 stone.
@evanbarr9270
@evanbarr9270 2 жыл бұрын
@@black_David_Frost. Ali was light heavy at 18 ,he was actually a full fledged heavyweight who came down in weight for his fights .far under his normal body weight .He generally weighed in over 210 for his fights ,even in the 60's ,and that is after striping of 15-20 lbs in training .I heard him say on a video that his walk around weight between fights was 230lbs in the 60's .most of the time in the 70's he was 220 when he weighed in for his fights ,and when in shape Ali had very defined abs.he was as big as lyle and Foreman or Holmes how was he a cruiser weight?Their whole philophacy is different now.now when they weigh in its over their natural weight.
@black_David_Frost.
@black_David_Frost. 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanbarr9270 It comes as a shock that both George Foreman and Ken Norton would be two of the lightest fighters the Klitschko brothers have ever faced. George Foreman, whom they called "Big George" had an average median weight of 217 lbs through the entire 1970s. Foreman would be in the BOTTOM-3 of Vitali Klitshcko's LIGHTEST opponents he ever faced. And Ken Norton (208 lbs) would be in Wladimir Kliitschko's BOTTOM-2 LIGHTEST opponents he ever faced.
@evanbarr9270
@evanbarr9270 2 жыл бұрын
@@black_David_Frost. norton also weighed 220 for his fights after 74 .but that is not my point the heavy weight fighters in the older times 60's-70's weighed in at a "fighting weight" they did not bulk up .sure Klitsko would be bigger he 6-7 or whatever he is .I was saying Ali was not a cruiser weight he actually was a 220 l bs heavyweight.Holyfield without weights and roids is 195 -200 lbs. he was a cruiser weight.
@evanbarr9270
@evanbarr9270 2 жыл бұрын
@@black_David_Frost. yeah so .?Ali weighed about 220-225 for the ones in the 70's he fought guys that where not bulked ,he also fought huge guys to .
@tomwendt498
@tomwendt498 3 күн бұрын
there were only two ways you could beat Joe Frazier ...you either had to outbox him, like Ali did in their 2nd and 3rd fights, or you had had to overpower him, the way George Foreman did ...if you couldn't do that, you were in for a real bad night! BTW, Joe beat Ali in the Fight of the Century no matter what Ali said later and in their last fight in Manilla, Ali told Angelo to cut his gloves off after the 14th round ....Angelo pretended not to hear Ali's request, he knew Joe was in a lot trouble at the end of the 14th round and he was trying to buy time to see what would happen in Joe's corner and sure enough, Eddie Futch had seen Frazier taking shots to his face he never saw coming and stopped the fight ...we can argue that decision, but at least Joe didn't end up as damaged as Ali was at the end of their respective careers
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson
@BoxingFightsByGaryWilson 2 күн бұрын
Yes quite & well said, without your being a brilliant boxer or extremely powerful, you'd better run.
@michaelowens5947
@michaelowens5947 Жыл бұрын
Sodium triphosphate?
@JelaniB28
@JelaniB28 2 жыл бұрын
MLK would die exactly one month later. I know this has nothing to do with the match but the history loving side of me couldn’t help but think about it. I really enjoyed the commercials by the way.
@jjs490
@jjs490 Ай бұрын
I loved Joe, but he was a little undersized but had the heart. huge, Huge heart of a champion. I knew two of the men, who were in The Clover Lane Syndicate that backed Joe in the beginning. That was surely an exciting time, part of my life from 65 to 71. I met Joe in 73, Georgie Benton introduced me at his gym, , I'm 511 And Joe was not as tall as me. But he was a bad man in the ring, Ali found that out in their first fight. And in Manila too, I don't think Ali would have answered the bell and come out if Joe was permitted to go out but Eddie futch said no way. Smokin Joe was great, never forget you Joe, and we love you Marvis Fraxier!
@shadicalplayz8932
@shadicalplayz8932 Ай бұрын
25:33
@danielsalinas6683
@danielsalinas6683 3 жыл бұрын
If Ali had not been stripped of the title, and he had fought Frazier in 68, Frazier would've fucked him up.
@stevecvino
@stevecvino 2 жыл бұрын
I believe if Ali hadn't been stripped they probably would of fought in late '69 or '70. . Yank Durham Frazier's manager wouldn't of rushed the fight with Ali. He would of played it smart and made sure Joe was 100% ready for Ali.
@reinaldomanuel8488
@reinaldomanuel8488 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree, because by the. We would’ve see Ali in his true prime
@danielsalinas6683
@danielsalinas6683 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinaldomanuel8488 frazier fought better opponents than ali. The only fighter ali fought in his first reign as champ that was any good was George Chuvalo. Frazier fought the top tier of heavyweights. Trust me- he would've destroyed clay.
@kaspafischer
@kaspafischer 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielsalinas6683 Joe wouldn't even get near Sonny Liston at that time... And as we all know, Ali beat Sonny twice! Ali also kayoed Bonavena who knocked down Joe twice... 😂
@danielsalinas6683
@danielsalinas6683 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaspafischer Ali beat Sonny twice? He beat him the first time when he was clay. But I wonder alot about the rematch. I've heard the noi kidnapped sonny's wife and kid and held them hostage so sonny could throw the fight.
@thespy7795
@thespy7795 2 жыл бұрын
Compare this fight to Mike Tyson vs. Tony Tucker. Frazier would have ANNILHILATED Tyson!!!
@mr.t658
@mr.t658 2 жыл бұрын
not a chance
@thespy7795
@thespy7795 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.t658 Tell that to Buster Douglas.
@mr.t658
@mr.t658 2 жыл бұрын
@@thespy7795 even douglas would beat frazier
@thespy7795
@thespy7795 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.t658 Joe would kill Douglas. Only 2 men beat Joe. The Greatest Fighter that EVER lived - Muhammad Ali and The Strongest and Hardest Puncher that EVER Lived - George Foreman. Tyson got his ass kicked by EVERYBODY. Bums, Retreads and Champs! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mr.t658
@mr.t658 2 жыл бұрын
@@thespy7795 also frazier got hurt and knocked down by everybody too. guys like bonavena and ron stander dropped him
@user-ne7ql9kn7r
@user-ne7ql9kn7r 10 ай бұрын
like joe said about Cassius clay " who's the dumb one now "
@PwerhisyoPinsala-oq9xy
@PwerhisyoPinsala-oq9xy 7 ай бұрын
Ali's illness acquired from fraizer ,norton and foreman fatal punches
@shadicalplayz8932
@shadicalplayz8932 4 ай бұрын
38:36
@bengoldberg6198
@bengoldberg6198 Жыл бұрын
Frazier was like a machine. Gotta break him to beat him.
@Lenny-tj7eb
@Lenny-tj7eb 15 күн бұрын
Smokin joe frazier gave away 40 lbs again buster but Smokin joe was on a mission he had buster in his site's Smokin joe frazier made big buster pay
@RobRivShowsLive01
@RobRivShowsLive01 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier’s Occupation Outside Of The Ring Was A Butcher. That’s How Come He Had That Killer Instinct In The Ring, That’s Why He Knew How To Hit Opponents On Their Internal Organs Which Caused Fighters Great Pain And Slowed Them Down!!!
@marktorak5578
@marktorak5578 7 ай бұрын
Joe Frazier stronger from 1967 to 1971 except for the Jerry Quarry rematch June 1974 when he stopped Quarry in 5 rounds
@EvanBarr-uk3vk
@EvanBarr-uk3vk Ай бұрын
Frazier is deceptively fast ,
@MubarakAli-rk8dx
@MubarakAli-rk8dx Жыл бұрын
Joe frazier very strong
@Bilyboysr3
@Bilyboysr3 Ай бұрын
Did Joe make bro shit his pants ?
@marktorak5578
@marktorak5578 7 ай бұрын
Not completely Joe Frazier never looked better in stopping Jerry Quarry in 5 rounds in June 1974 at Madison Square Garden but your right. In most of his fights he looked alot stronger from 1957 to 1971
@sk3shahu9
@sk3shahu9 2 жыл бұрын
Mathis had gynecomastia
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