He's not just a hallucination. He's Butcher's evil side while Becca is his good side
@moy8aАй бұрын
That makes a lot of sense
@DJDowdАй бұрын
Might be a good plot twist.
@shlokshivhare3356Ай бұрын
Becca side is cringe and Cucked. I hope he becomes final villain of the series
@syckrayАй бұрын
It's not in the latest episode u see him interact with another person...
@blakelandry9313Ай бұрын
@@syckray no he doesn’t
@jharrjs80Ай бұрын
I'm convinced kessler is butchers Tyler durden
@botjebones6038Ай бұрын
Hahahah true
@sng3939Ай бұрын
100% is
@CartoonyBoiАй бұрын
Yep
@charliechow7853Ай бұрын
For the longest time I thought Hughie’s mum was in Hughie’s head… I was so wrong
@lowqualityratspinningАй бұрын
You saw the screen crush video
@kalvin187douglasАй бұрын
I love how Butcher backed Kimoko, they’ve e never been on even ground in their relationship but the fact he recognized her strength and skills in battle is a compliment I appreciate him acknowledging outloud
@guywhosnamestartswithz2520Ай бұрын
I dont know maybe if he had described her as “The Muscle” or a “powerhouse” then it would seem like that but the fact that he just called her a weapon kinda shows how he doesn’t care about her feelings and what she’s been through since Kimikos entire arc is proving that she is more than a weapon, but obviously Butcher doesn’t seem to care
@justjoshua5759Ай бұрын
There’s a big theme in this season of being “one of the good ones” being noticed. Kimikos mentioning here wasn’t done for good and pure reasons is the least we can conclude from him calling her just a weapon
@amirriddleАй бұрын
It's a direct parallel to "not you noir, you're doing great" 😂😂😂
@aryanpanda1220Ай бұрын
Joe getting the Negan nostalgia 💀
@andreabanuelosavila2317Ай бұрын
They played by the same actor, of course there would be nostalgia.
@toby2k75Ай бұрын
When Joe tells Butcher "I wanted to meet in your mother's pussy, but I wanted something more private".. That felt like a Negan reply😂😂😂
@geamhradhdearg6061Ай бұрын
@@andreabanuelosavila2317. Let's not forget he's also married with Maggie in other universes😂
@donaldcalhoun3665Ай бұрын
Jeffery Dean Morgan and Lauren Cohen, respectively, played Martha and Thomas Wayne (Batman's parents) in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) but something I didn't know until now was that Jeffery Dean Morgan was in the 2012 Red Dawn reboot playing as Sergeant Major Andrew Tanner, but the Red Dawn reboot became a box-office bomb earning only $50.3 million against a $65 million budget, while Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice earned $166 million in the US and Canada in it's opening weekend.
@dragonwings5134Ай бұрын
Im 95% sure that joe is butchers tumor
@julianescarzaga8531Ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking that too negl
@chibinhashinyАй бұрын
nah, in the newest episode we see joe interacting with some doors, like in butchers car. Pretty sure a hallucination wouldn't be able to do that
@BombSquad.MP4Ай бұрын
@@chibinhashinyYou have to be trolling lmao. Tyler Durden also interacts with stuff, but he wasn’t real. How do you explain that, huh wise guy?
@gauravpatil9652Ай бұрын
@@chibinhashiny you never saw Fight Club, have you?😂
@nilanavesaАй бұрын
@@chibinhashinythe key is that he never interact with people, not object this thing is like angel n devil, becca being the angel, n he is the devil of butcher
@immortaloser847Ай бұрын
Negan really roasted The Boys.
@PayttheKingАй бұрын
How would he know how his team is if never around them clearly a hallucination
@bronmill33Ай бұрын
even if he wasnt a hallucination, which he almost certainly is, it isnt that far of a stretch for a guy thats close personal friends with Butcher and working for the CIA to know some details about the most prolific group of supe killers to ever exist
@PayttheKingАй бұрын
@bronmill33 you what I can agree with that I'm also thinking of the ending to ep5 with Sameer
@andreibalulescu102Ай бұрын
@@PayttheKingI was wondering how the fuck Butcher did kidnap Sammer, cut his leg without anybody noticing. Maybe he imagines he kidnap Sammer because it seems kinda of a strech that he kidnap him without anyoane noticing.
@PayttheKingАй бұрын
@andreibalulescu102 yea but his leg tho the cops didn't find any other parts of him only his leg. But yea that confused the shit out of me
@andreibalulescu102Ай бұрын
@@PayttheKing maybe because the sheeps est the rest of his body apart from the foot.
@neojenshi4055Ай бұрын
"They are decent people. But you and me we don't belong with decent..."
@juanmanuelcardona19Ай бұрын
Negan would say exactly the same
@WkzeditzАй бұрын
Butcher is getting insane
@zeroswings2Ай бұрын
hasn't he kinda always been? even without the hallucinations, he's BEEN acting on things like the hallucination is suggesting... and why the hell not? he's a normal human being up against very powerful supes and the billion-dollar company Vought... the only real way a normal person could even hope to win is to play very dirty with fast and loose morality. I may not like what he does, but I certainly get the character... you gotta be kinda nuts to even think you stand a chance
@kalvin187douglasАй бұрын
Butcher and Negan working together is a reckoning waiting to happen 💀
@thesugar5832Ай бұрын
Woulda never been a problem if butcher just let soldier boy do his thing, but no he wanted to save him cause the kid was there.
@phillipjackson3498Ай бұрын
Goodness gracious please don't bring that up.
@raulbetancourt5795Ай бұрын
Even that, he could just Knocked Ryan, and let Soldier boy finnish shitlander.
@phillipjackson3498Ай бұрын
@@raulbetancourt5795 Homemwrecker, unfortunately he has a good superhero Landing.
@pens8766Ай бұрын
@@raulbetancourt5795shitlander thank you for that.
@inbeing3464Ай бұрын
people when a fictional character doesnt want a 10 year child die as collateral damage 😡😡😡😡
@codmvinesyt5865Ай бұрын
This season is peak
@Thanos5Ай бұрын
Ehhh the gay shit and Frenchie turning soft ruins it
@expo6877Ай бұрын
@@Thanos5They completely fucked up Frenchies character with all that woke garbage, they also completely ruined the relationship he’s been building with Kimiko for 3 seasons now.
@DrDiabolical000Ай бұрын
@@expo6877 funny how that criticism has nothing to do with the writing still they "ruined it with the woke garbage".
@ayezz2811Ай бұрын
The only criticism of this season I’ve seen ANYWHERE is angry snowflakes who use the word woke
@moy8aАй бұрын
@@expo6877Frenchie being bisexual since the start of the series , and agreeing with kimiko with keeping their friendship platonic....
@VorjuMeidearАй бұрын
Since the end of EP5 it's clear Kessler isn't a real person but a part of butchers imagination. Probably even his sup side alter ego.
@m.bition3769Ай бұрын
How do you knoe that?
@VorjuMeidearАй бұрын
@@m.bition3769 What else could it have implied? We have seen him time and time again talking to his dead ex wife BUT she mostly appeals to his "human" side to hold on to not give in. But his CIA buddy has a much darker much brutal approach and appeals to his darker "sup" side. So know, I don't know that, but if I see rain and lightning you don't have to be a genius to know that thunder is around the corner.
@willi898Ай бұрын
You are right lol
@VorjuMeidearАй бұрын
@@willi898 Yea I know, just watched EP6 ;)
@datoolz0Ай бұрын
@@VorjuMeidear Thunder ??? Negan is a good guy Butcher should just trust him!
@gregorking5249Ай бұрын
Only me that thinks it’s too obvious that he’s not real and the real twist is going to be that he is real, calling it now butcher will think he’s not real only to find out he is infact real at a major moment, Kessler may even use the fact butcher doesn’t trust his own sense to his advantage. Maybe not but would be pretty cool
@Vel0city_was_hereАй бұрын
Although I come from the future and know a little bit more now than you did when you commented this I do agree that it was wayyy too obvious that Becca and this dude was supposed to be a “angel and devil” on your shoulder type thing. Thought it was kinda lame if they don’t expand on it like you suggested
@gregorking5249Ай бұрын
@@Vel0city_was_here yeah I was expecting a scene like this but was hoping they would do like a double twist and it ends up being a manipulation, the shot of the hostage looking at him by himself kinda ruins that idea a wee bit though unless I’m missing something. Pretty lame if that’s all it was leading upto as it was an easy guess from the first episode. The reveal came pretty early though so hopefully it is going to lead to something more
@gregorking5249Ай бұрын
@@Vel0city_was_here unless Kessler is real in most scenes but not in that one scene but feels like I’m reaching a bit now lol
@terrytoledo4826Ай бұрын
These two need their own movie. 🍿 Dredd 2 needs to happen anyway.
@Dogeathotdog1Ай бұрын
Hell yeah Best Dredd ever and closest to the Comic
@AL-ch5czАй бұрын
“LITTLE PIG LITTLE PIG”
@sng3939Ай бұрын
Starlight is pretty useless lmao
@Zack-l6cАй бұрын
Fr 😂
@TheCupcakeEater554Ай бұрын
Real asf
@ahmednizamani1746Ай бұрын
Agreed,Starlight's full power did absolutely nothing to Soldier Boy
@TommyTheApeАй бұрын
She's also annoying
@ishaankumar4587Ай бұрын
She used her full power on soldier boy which pushed soldier boy back by 1 metre while she was godam near fainting 💀
@knightmare7836Ай бұрын
The theory of him being a hallucination kinda fits after the end of episode 5 when butcher says something along about 'we' while interrogating or talking to the scientist and when the scientist looked at the direction where butcher looks at him the scientist looks confused also am pretty sure the scientist never even looked at him before butcher said 'we' or sum but he looked still confused.
@Zack-l6cАй бұрын
JD Morgan kills every role he plays 🔥
@flamingchickinАй бұрын
butcher is like mason from black ops 1. anything that reznov physically did was actually done by mason (past the vorkuta escape) and mason was just hallucinating someone else doing it.
@saulgoodman55Ай бұрын
New Tyler Durden the way he made Becca go away and Daddy's home . diabolical
@BJackson-kg5drАй бұрын
It’s all fun and games for homelander until you see a bat and hear a whistle
@stairwaytoheaven8Ай бұрын
Negan is still getting graped he is a shit character and nobody compared to the goatlander
@Gu-99ZАй бұрын
Negan is nothing compared to homelander 💀
@delink3930Ай бұрын
This is the scene that has conviced me the most. All because Joe knows way more than Butcher's team. I really doubt Butcher would have open up to him out nowhere
@xgnik5334Ай бұрын
I see he brought a little bit of Negan with him
@echocity986Ай бұрын
Homelander ate Lucille
@SpamDustt411Ай бұрын
Hopefully both of the goats will work together on last episode of the Season, and i hope that's the reason why butcher is saying "You're all Fuc**ng Welcome"
@SloppysethАй бұрын
Joe should have said oi or scorched earth or something like that when billy found out that he's a hallucination
@walkernation6719Ай бұрын
Negans speaking pretty solid points like always
@matthieuzglurg6015Ай бұрын
bro about to go full Johnny Silverhand with Butcher
@-_-00452Ай бұрын
Who's here after episode 6?
@Anon-i2zАй бұрын
Im literally Billy Butcher
@InnocentBirdwingButterfl-mh8ruАй бұрын
Now I’m convinced that Joe Kessler is just The Boys version of Viktor Reznov.
@kalondamack339Ай бұрын
Now Butcher and Kimiko have a silent respect for each other. They know enough about each other that she knows there’s a reason he’s this way. And he knows she doesn’t want to be a supe but her power is necessary.
@s-z515Ай бұрын
I love how Kripke puts all of his Supernatural friends in The Boys. Maybe one day, crossover?
@flaviopigliucciАй бұрын
So I'm not the only one thinking this dude is just in his immagination
@inconspicuous1917Ай бұрын
Damn, the sugar cane not growing made me feel real nostalgic for season 7 😢
@vincentcleaver1925Ай бұрын
I've seen enough to be outraged about kimiko, but maybe I'll give you starlight. She's a player in the super game, now, misses her humanity but she's gotten ruthless
@richortega692Ай бұрын
Crazy how butcher absolutely hated supes but was so desperate to take down homelander he temporarily became one while also mentioning that kimiko is a “bloody good weapon”. Season 1 butcher wouldn’t have said something like that.
@ZeonEonsАй бұрын
Yep I think it was after he saved Ryan he realised that killing all supes would mean to kill Ryan too
@twd_peakАй бұрын
Love that last line
@TheFitnessGamer365Ай бұрын
This show is f***ing amazing, all 4 seasons & we aren’t even finished with season 4 yet!lol,smfh REALTALK TRUESTORY 😳😳😳🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️😬😬😬👀👀👀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
@furionmax7824Ай бұрын
Think about it this way. Gen V showed us how a hallucination would work in this verse. The hallucination will know everything the person having it will. Plus he's acting just like butcher. And how would he know all that stuff about the Boys? And why is he going along with everything Butcher says? Nobody ever would unless they were either crazy or another version of butcher.
@brokengamer9675Ай бұрын
I swear they get Jeffery Dean Morgan to say the most out of this world shit, and make it sound cool.
@angelux279329 күн бұрын
Is it just me or is anybody else wondering about the consistency of Butcher's affliction. Starlight said the lab data concluded using too much temp V turns your brain into swiss cheese (by that im assuming lesions), then they mention several times its cancer i.e; tumors, but then when Homelander looks at him with his X-ray he calls it "a swirling black mass wrapped around his brain" which infers its the temp V tentacle thing latching itself to his brain
@punkrock94Ай бұрын
Negan in the boys universe
@markgarcia1866Ай бұрын
Lmao I love how he always hates star light but is ok with kimiko 😂😂😂
@Ghost-ql3hlАй бұрын
100% he’s Tyler Dryden
@aaronmelchor1575Ай бұрын
Negan & billy butcher 🤔🤫😎💯
@asherabraham6063Ай бұрын
Both give out the same Aura
@breakfaith3031Ай бұрын
The second best Kessler scene. The best is still when butcher asks if Kessler could raise his own son as a weapon... Supernatural fans will understand why its a funny moment.
@PFPVONАй бұрын
He said "Half your brain is a tumor" Definitely a physical manifestation of the SuperTumor
@4visitor486Ай бұрын
Nah I’m standing on this, he’s real. Since people though hughies mom was a hallucination for the same reasons we think butchers Joe Kessler is a hallucination.
@BoryspitzanzxАй бұрын
Quite a unique power to get for butcher using permanent V. Having your conscience talking to you is probably unheard of in the sup world. This is like the first positive V injection ever made instead of turning everybody in jerks. Maybe if he gets control of it like Starlight learned her true potential. It would be an amazing final showdown waiting for us last season. Truly, the problem always was in butchers soul, not his brain or heart. I hope this show ends on a good note with hope. The world has fallen into to shit and I dont want more of it on my screen. To be honest, seeing butcher be nice was really heartwarming this season.
@VonLescarbeauАй бұрын
Joe is Billy butchers rhys montrose
@Nobody-U-Want-2-KnowАй бұрын
Derp. Snow melts around trees first since they retain more heat than the ground. These set designers don’t understand snow.
@ceoofwandaism7380Ай бұрын
Could butcher be having these hallucinations because when he took V again, the Tumour evolved?
@madara992Ай бұрын
This whole conversation pretty much cemented that joe is not real
@simonroos3740Ай бұрын
Here for a good time not a long time 😝🫡🫡
@roofkorean6948Ай бұрын
Butcher: "My team is a joke. I know this, because Joe knows this."
@BenjiBoi696Ай бұрын
Ya, never seeing Joe interact with a single person besides butcher was not sus at all 😂
@sherrifffffАй бұрын
I'm at season 2 currently and I was just wishing Jeffrey Dean Morgan to be in The Boys yesterday and Look at this
@VanIykeАй бұрын
If season 5 doesn't win an Emmy, I don't know what the judges are wstching
@chimua2600Ай бұрын
Spoiler*** I did also hear a theory that no one else has seen him except for Butcher. In episode 5 when they escape the barn and butcher captures Newman’s husband, butcher looks over and talks but then the husband looks over and doesn’t see or say anything.
@Jiggly2025Ай бұрын
The literal devil on his shoulder
@harshksislive5594Ай бұрын
He is using his team like a weapon
@nathanbyrne24Ай бұрын
I don’t think he’s a hallucination. The Becca hallucination doesn’t have footstep sounds, but Joe does. Also, Joe has been in the room with Sameer, who looked at him.
@nathan1507Ай бұрын
This is such a mind fuck. Bravo, Vince.
@user-mp2ss9mo4jАй бұрын
You mean negan
@demosnipertf2165Ай бұрын
Bro i thought it was Negan for some reason
@AverageChocolateАй бұрын
It is negan
@ZeonEonsАй бұрын
Yep this is Negan. They aren't hiding it all that much lol
@beanmanbutchinaАй бұрын
Joe met his alternate self in a timeline where supes are replaced with a zombie virus.
@Chriswatt313Ай бұрын
Winchester’s in the boys
@sauce7489Ай бұрын
Kesler has almost the same fit as Butcher. Them trenchcoat makes The Boys in comics. In TV, it looks like Butchers alter ego.
@ALPHA-PSYCHO_YTАй бұрын
Negan is gonna pull out the Lucille and gonna punch homelander to death
@Homicidal_Gopro117Ай бұрын
Cant wait for Negan Beating the shit out of Homelander with Lucille
@Gu-99ZАй бұрын
Sweet dreams huh 🥺
@Garrry2121Ай бұрын
This some fight club shit
@chasespake9271Ай бұрын
Ah yes, Negan from the walking dead.
@yujiruffhanma3095Ай бұрын
The comic and the show seem to have swapped Butcher and Homelander's quality of development. Anthony Starr's potrayal is superb, but the direction they take Butcher in is all wrong, imo. Butcher was so singlemindedly fixated on eradictating every trace of V from the planet that he was willing to kill millions, and his lack of change was what made him terrifying. Loved that version.
@OscarNovember1776Ай бұрын
SPOILERS!!!! YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT JOE COMMENT SECTION. Y O U W E R E R I G H T ! 🤯
@johno1544Ай бұрын
Negan knows way too much about The Boys
@cmcizzle1261Ай бұрын
NEGAN'S BACK BABY WWWWWOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
@CoralllgrimesssАй бұрын
Negan 😂😂
@eshwarpr07Ай бұрын
Negannnnn💥🐐
@aotearoa24-79Ай бұрын
Becca - good Butcher- neutral Joe - evil
@c.riddle8354Ай бұрын
Butcher, Homelander is worse than an army of zombies ... I KNOW THIS.
@metal_gear_rayquaza8914Ай бұрын
Butcher's devil is Negan? Yeah that checks out.
@ConnorHazzy201Ай бұрын
Becca is the angel on his shoulder reminding him of what a good man he is and Joe is the devil on his shoulder telling him he’s basically a bastard and does whatever it takes. Both hallucinations or Kessler is maybe the parasite.
@travisruiz5205Ай бұрын
And my Amazon prime was cancelled 😢
@raoulshaumalukman2797Ай бұрын
Least obvious hallucination character
@toby2k75Ай бұрын
The end of episode 5 kind of hinted that Joe isn't real. Cause Butcher tells Neuman husband we want you to make a new virus. And Sahmire goes, " Who's we"??
@harleyquinn6692Ай бұрын
Can't wait to find out if he's really there with Butcher or not
@flashbringАй бұрын
Pay attention to how he walks in this scene
@harleyquinn6692Ай бұрын
@@flashbring yeah it looks like he could easily be in Butchers head
@ohitzrattly7378Ай бұрын
Why do people think it’s a hallucination?
@user-RupertАй бұрын
How do ya know Joe issa hallucination?
@nicknadeau55387 күн бұрын
What’s the background music?
@maze3on352Ай бұрын
Joe’s the Devil on Butchers shoulder whereas Becca is the Angel
@Bigchungus947Ай бұрын
Bro that’s not joe that’s negan 😂im convinced
@thecheeseheadcook7959Ай бұрын
Joe is just the devil on Buchers shoulder at this point
@goodjuju6400Ай бұрын
with everyone thinking Kesslers only in Butchers head, i think it'd be a plot twist if he WAS real
@n1n0rmal3nАй бұрын
Plot twist i think kessler is in his head like becca was
@randomguest2901Ай бұрын
Man everyone shut up with the Kessler hallucination theories, everyone knows about the theories, most deducted it themselves, and imo episode 5 confirmed he is a hallucination, y’all ain’t doing something soecial