Probably the best finisher ever, once he got you in trouble.

Joe Lewis G.O.A.T.

Mark, I agree, Joe had the tet book style and probably the GOAT

Way ahead of any one of that era.

Mark Davies , he was so precise it was as though A.I. had infiltrated his movements of hand speed , timing , and unmatched power

Power + precision + speed = The perfect right hand

riddleof gailrussell Louis was a true gentleman inside and outside the ring.

Only because he had to. Joe Louis had to keep a lot to himself because he didn't want to give in to any stereotypes blacks had. Jack Johnson had basically set black fighters back 20 years with his attitude and Louis had to act the opposite just to get big time fights. Once Louis retired, his real personality came out

@@KHayes666 tbf Louis real personality is generally a pretty quiet, soft spoken guy with a sense of humor and sarcasm

John Williams ..Ali would of danced circles around him...Joe was too slow for Ali...He wouldnt know what to do with Ali...Billy Conn A style almost similar without all the dancing but the left jab in Joes face gave him trouble... But Ali was bigger than Joe not smaller like Conn...Just my opinion...

@@getredytagetredy ali woulda got knocked the fuck out if george chuvalo can catch prime ali ..so can joe louis and he would hit him with more than rights to the body ...ali doesnt make it to the mid rounds ..btw billy conn fought joe by throwing combos on the inside and exiting the inside ..ali didnt and couldnt fight like that ...watch more boxing carefully before you make these comments!

@getredy- If you really believe that Chuvalo "caught" a prime Ali- you need to go back and listen to the scorecards- from both fights, which were both fought in Canada- btw. Neither one of them was close. Chuvalo was tough, took a great shot, and landed to Ali's body in the corners- but he caught way more punches than he landed. We never even saw a "prime Ali" fight. His best years were the years he wasn't allowed to fight.

He was great, but Marciano was even better.

@@samtotheg George Chuvalo in 66 is one of the primary weapons in demonstrating how either Louis or Marciano could have beaten "prime Ali." Ali had to check into a hospital for an overnight to have his walloped kidneys monitored, while George got dressed then took his wife out dancing. That's right from Chuvalo's own mouth. And you're right: Conn was a much better technician than Ali. People also seem to forget he lost the fights vs. Louis. Slick boxers are tough on anybody. They're not an "auto-win."

Doc Malthus , look at the left hook he floored two ton Tony Galento with . You’ll swear it was the hardest punch in boxing history .

@@striperking6083 Galento could've gotten and 8 count while his feet were off the ground from that left!

Doc Malthus , that was the first and I believe only time Galento was floored . He had the toughest chin along with George Chuvalo . That was the only knockdown where somebody was lifted completely off their feet in boxing history . 233 pounds airborne

@@striperking6083 I believe Joe Frazier's feet left the ground at one point during his first match with George Foreman. But yes, I think that was the only time Galento was floored. And look how quickly he got up!

Pastor had a lot of heart. Those right hands that decked him in the first round- were the same right hands that made Max Baer quit in 4 rounds. He lasted 10 more rounds! Pastor had made Louis look bad in their first fight- by running away from Joe and going the distance. Joe never made the same mistake twice. He is beautiful in this fight. A joy to watch more than 80 years later.

Well nor did many of his opponents. Only Schmeling, Walcott and Marciano could truly hurt him. Only Charles was able to successfully outbox him for a full 15 rounds.

@@rexscipio3344 tbf Walcott outboxed him their first fight

@@JeffPenaifynah he did a lot of running that’s why the judges gave Louis the W

He moved like a butterfly but didn't have the sting

Right on the head! Joe was so graceful. Relaxed and poised. The most difficult attribute for a lethal fighter. Be careful!

Michael Kearney at the time Michigan was the only state that allowed 20 round fights .

@@striperking6083 Now I understand. Thanks for clearing that up.

Bob was indeed courageous, but he didn't outbox Louis in either of their fights. Joe outpointed and eventually knocked him out.

One of the worst travesties in boxing history.

Pastor was clearly outclassed by Louis. Pastors problem was he couldn't take or get of the way of Louis ' s punches, and his punches were ineffective against Joe. Louis hit too hard and the fight should have been stopped anytime after the first knockdown.

Pastor was no bum, for sure.

@@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin Pastor not a bum, but Louis outweighed him by 15 pounds. Pastor didn't have any business being in the ring with Louis, but gave him two good fights. I love Joe Louis and his style, but he did face a lot of stiffs.

@@ytjake789 he really didnt, he fought good boxers lighter than him and giants far heavier than him, he fought everybody who was somebody in a extremely active and competitive era

@@JeffPenaify I loved Joe Louis and his style. But the Galentos, Pastors, Baers, etc. were not competitive. Joe didn't face really good competition until late in his career (Walcott, Charles, Marciano).

That's why they called him a Knock- out Artist.

Ali was good. Fast. But. He got hit way to much. .. Slight edge to Louis. I think he would have taken Ali Frazier Foreman Knorton Holmes Shavers Lyle And many others. However. Any one can be beaten. Or lose..

@@rontate7719 I think you underestimate that I really could take a hit like no other heavyweight in the history of boxing. Must we not forget he developed the rope-a-dope technique and took punishment from George Foreman for a large part of the fight. Later knocking out a undefeated George Foreman. Joe Lewis was more stationary. So it could go either way based on the style of both fighters.

Marcos Santos , think that was hard ? Look at the left hook Joe Louis hit Tony Galento with in 2nd round of their fight . Took 233 lb Tony clean off his feet . Check it out . I never even seen Tyson land a punch than Joe Louis

richard V. .. Paster was nothing but a back up runner ...he went 15 rounds and threw 15 punches the entire fight...that's why...JOE GOT TIRED OF CHASING THIS CLOWN

I’m pretty sure pastor moved up weight classes to fight joe Louis tho, like I talked to bob pastors daughter about it.

gussstavo after careful observation I believe this Joe Louis would’ve even caught Ali , Tyson , and Holmes by knockout

@@striperking6083 i dont know if he could beat lennox lewis buy who knows

Joe Louis would wear down and eventually knock out any heavyweight, including Ali, Norton, Frazier, Holmes and Foreman.

@@MACH15-20 we will never know but hes underrated in my opinion

​@@striperking6083​ you can't see good,this looks like novices compared to the average 70s,no one even made mid fighting like this in those era's so what do you mean you think he could,you're not sane

Jessee Ferrara maybe that’s how you scored it,but Louis was ahead on all three official cards by 5 points the fight was never in doubt for joe.

ASMR Critique oh hell naw! You must be as blind as Adelaide Byrd!

Pastor courageous survived the first 3 rounds and fought on but i wouldn't say he won any of the rounds before his eventual knockout.

There was no standing eight count in those days. Once the downed fighter got back up the fight continued.

Light heavyweight limit is 175lbs....Joe Louis fought around and little bit over the 200lb mark.

That was all natural no steriods or enhancements like today standards.

Joe couldn't have beat Ali '64-'67, joe was a flat foot plodder and Ali's hand speed, stringing together lethal, accurate combinations of punches 5-6 at a time, look at how Clay dismantled Sonny Liston in '64 in Miami. Up until that fight Sonny had held the belt for four years, going past the fourth round only once with just one loss on his record. Watch the full six round fight, oone time the announcers said Sonny looked like a sparring partner.

@@aarondigby9859the only part of Joe Louis that was not elite was his chin, Ali was too feather fisted to take advantage of this.. watch Ali Vs Henry Cooper when he cheated or Joe Frazier Ali is a sucker for the left hook and Joe has the best 6 inch hook in heavyweight history

@ariveitz1941 why bring Ali into a Bob Pastor Joe Louis fight? The Ali shills work 24/7 huh the only part of Joe Louis that was not elite was his chin, Ali was too feather fisted to take advantage of this.. watch Ali Vs Henry Cooper when he cheated or Joe Frazier Ali is a sucker for the left hook and Joe has the best 6 inch hook in heavyweight history

Prime Ali would of gave Louis a hard time .Louis most likely would of beaten Friazer after a hard fight.I also question Friazers.Quarry block big punchers Shavers,Lyle and MacFoster from meeting Friazer His counter puncher style was good againest punchers .Friazer swarmer style not so much as in the Foreman fights.

​@@fredsmith3575can't see good huh?,explain how joe could beat the 2nd joe when nobody fighting like anyone from this era even made midcard in 70s,you people aren't sane

What if WWII was in the mid to late 1980s? What would the Real Deal have done?

@@TheBatugan77 took some more 'roids. Didn't the NFL had video tapes, they had cameras, what exactly was Evander saying, some one would've figured Joe out, weren't the NFL filming games? Why couldn't boxing.

But this exists and this is their second bout,and there is a good amount of film of Joe and not just title fights !?

On the flipside, it's not like Louis was watching films of his opponents regularly. There was a whole lot more film of Louis than any of the guys he'd be fighting against.

If not for www2 .Louis would not have got ring rusty and would of defended hus title many more times.Holyfield is just a drug cheat .Who knows how well he would of done with out the roids help .Probably would of lost the Holmes and Foreman fights .They where clean fighters

It wasn't white per se it was his wife an Jewish manager who took him to the cleaners. Then on top of it they didnt pay his taxes. Yes government should have forgave the debt allot sooner than it did. He was a hero!

Abe Simon 6"4 265Ib Buddy Bare 6"7 250Ib Primo Carmnera 6"6 260Ib Max Bare 6"2 220Ib All lost by k.o to Joe Louis

Did you ever see these “boxers” they were big dopes

Yes I I've saw their matches, the only one I wouldn't take serious is primo Carmnera.

​@@whitneywilliams317Carnera had good jab and footwork. He was also a strong man and an ex champion. Certainly a worthy opponent.

@@Pedro_Le_Chef well that jab and foot work didn't seem to be the case when he fought Max Baer lol

This is the 2nd to last HW title fight that was scheduled for 20 rounds the last one was Louis vs Abe Simon in 1941

Pastor was better than Folley, Machen and Williams.

Pastor was one of the best fighters of the late 30s/early 40s. He deserved his chance. Louis was unstoppable by that point though.

@@Pedro_Le_Chef exum was wlads 2nd match a no name way more advanced than joes era,have anybody like that in joes time you know with angles?timing?fluid?tech in full rounds?,answer is no yet that man being that advanced was destroyed, i dont need to watch anybody louis fought seen it in all louis matches/max/primo they all had the same flaws the whole era did,looks very novice like compared to the average 70s fighter

@@Pedro_Le_Chef lunatic

Marciano was one of, if not thee, greatest finishers of all time.

​@@Durango_KidLouis is arguably a much better finisher than Marciano.

@@Pedro_Le_Chef No he wasn't.

@@Durango_Kid that's a lunatic he trolls and lies

@@Pedro_Le_Chef exum was wlads 2nd match a no name way more advanced than joes era,have anybody like that in joes time you know with angles?timing?fluid?tech in full rounds?,answer is no yet that man being that advanced was destroyed, i dont need to watch anybody louis fought seen it in all louis matches/max/primo they all had the same flaws the whole era did,looks very novice like compared to the average 70s fighter

How

I had him winning a few rounds before the knockout. The man was fighting a prime Louis, he got up from 4 knockdowns and went on to fight 10 rounds. I think he did very well for himself. His record shows that he was one of the best fighters of his era.

You go and look at Bob Pastors record, he was no bum the bum of the month tour was actually loaded with heavyweight contenders and strong journeymen

he had a lot of heart an i have had the pleasure of talking to pastors daughter and he had to move up a weight class to fight him. Pastor and Louis also stayed close friends after, i have a picture of them two years after this fight

I don't believe he could beat Marciano, even in his prime. I believe Marciano never lost a fight. He was 49-0. I loved Joe, but Rocky was the greatest. Just check out his record and the fighters he went up against.

@@davisdurand You are contradicting what many boxing experts think. If you dig deep, you will admit the truth, you will see that Rocky wouldn't have a chance with prime Joe Louis, you are jealous, racist and don't understand boxing.

@@carloshenriquethomaz2578 Calling me a racist a way off the mark. I'm an 80 year old man who grew up listening to Joe Louis fight through the radio during the late 1940s and early 50s. I idolized the man. Hell, I even bought Joe Louis comic books. It really hurt when Joe lost to Ezzard Charles and then Rocky. He was well past his prime of course. That being said, watch as many videos of Rocky and Joe on KZfaq as you can, and they speak for themselves. Joe got the hell beat out of him in the first match with Max Schmeling. There is now way in hell that would happen with Rocky. In fact, Joe hit the canvas a number of times in his career as compared with Rocky.

@@davisdurand All boxing experts say that Louis was better than Marciano, he only lost because he was way beyond his prime. It's not possible that everyone is wrong and only you are right.

@@carloshenriquethomaz2578 Show me any article which claims that Joe Louis was better than Rocky.

Fats Montague from Forest Hills.

Inrternet poster Edward Deitch could give Bob Pastor boxing lessons. LOL

Because he had already been hammered senseles ffs.