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I just spit out my white claw 😂

Oh, these clowns yet again.

@@fragileomniscience7647 Wise people read. Unwise ones dismiss.

@@fragileomniscience7647 they are not dawkins or hitchens

@@fragileomniscience7647 firas zahabi studied Islamic philosophy and science. He is a devout Muslim.

@@PabloSensei Dawkins and hitches are not very smart.

Like he said, we dont know shit

yeah i noticed that he was trying to get joe to listen and not let it become an ego battle

yes I agree and when Joe is getting a bit close to the bone I've noticed that Firaz immediately jumps train and starts a new conversation. He does this to save little Joe embarrassment and fatiguing the conversation@@fullsendit292

Yeah I noticed he kept convincing the person he was talking to... about how solid his idea is while avoiding solid evidence in a clear decisive response.

Its a basic sales/manipulation tactic and a huge red flag to anyone who knows to look for it.

​@@jamesbaker3153is it really a red flag if the person is trying to keep the argument from turning hostile and bad? Would love to hear your thoughts brother

that's actually what was happening lol

Yeah lol. I realized it immediately. I didn't see him understanding really until halfway through, even still challanging a very simple concept over and over and over. Lol.

@@tylerblair7416 im pretty sure he understood what he was getting at he was just challenging thought to get more out the podcast

@@joeythakyd possibly. I think he definitely understood mostly. But when he kept saying what do you mean by woo. I just don't understand what you mean when you're saying science is woo, over and over lol.

For sure, I thought it was funny for Joe to keep coming to the defense of science, like somehow Firas was denying science.

He really does seem to want his coffee. I bet Joe drinks some great beans.

hahaha

Lol 😂

LOL

lol love you for that one

He’s very wrong about randomness

Enlighten us, Mr. Expert.​@eduardofernandez9173

​@@eduardofernandez9173 what is randomness then?

The guy is well known for making philosophy simple .

@@eduardofernandez9173 How?

The top 20-30 comments are people (mostly non atheists) that loved this very educational podcast/debate about the Philosophy of science and science while the new comments are full of unedcated, angry atheists calling Firas's explanations BS and talking nonsense about religions showing that they never watched this podcast LOL My guess is that this is too advanced for them even though Firas broke it down so any laymen can understand this. These people are so uneducated yet they try to act as if they are the people of science. So sad. PS. I came here from Twitter after seeing a Tweet saying exactly what you said

Sorry man, but your god will never be real, but your prophet will always be a kiddy diddler.

When u choose the redpill

What is real?

@@knmfujiwara I'm real

@@joeking8789 Are you though?

@@nicolasc682 Well I know I am, you know you are, but neither of us know if each other is real...

We don't see things the way they are. We see things the way we are.

You two rounded it up beautifully

einstein actually valued philosophy, its sad when people like bill nye call it a waste of time

@@PabloSensei the problem with philosophy is that it doesn’t solve problems.

@@thebeast5215 the problem with common sense is that it's not common

25:00

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

What a bar

It's because science isn't afraid of improving and updating itself.

Is just bs. That's what this guy said science is, trying to save face after slipping up, saying there's a lot of woo in modern science😂

me too

@@danielmpour3021me too read Imam Ghazali

me too man

Nice profile pic

@@youssef5263 he used mine

Joe wasn’t buying his mumble jumble

Firas Zahabi is just trying to win... Observe it when he keeps on telling joe very proudly how what he's trying to explain is not easy... this is what alot of philosophers suffer from.. is they're trying to win.. they're searching for that ultimate superiority over people.. i have that.. its a horrible curse.. Joe was never even in disagreement, they were just in a huge 1 hour long miscommunication.

@@mrmasrawy92 Joe wasnt disagreeing cus he couldn't. I dont think he even understood what firas was saying. I get how you could see that firas was trying to win an argument, but its frustrating when someone denies what you're saying because they dont understand.

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I was reading this when he said that 😂

Me lol

Firas

Probably because he’s famous for being an MMA coach. He’s one of the best in the world who trained George st Pierre, one of the best fighters there’s ever been

Man, what??? I’m sure glad their holding it down.

dude like if i kill my gremlin i can fly woah

I liked this analogy. This is what globalist are covering. I’m on it, I looked in to it.

That's bullshit all my Gremlin ever did was sleep all day and drink all night. Not a lot of time left over for intellectual pursuits.

loool..

The word Science is derived from scientia in Latin meaning knowledge. You can put the goal post down now.

Javascript Kiddie what did those idiots know? Theres a reason why that language is virtually extinct. Take any modern science class and the first thing you’re taught is scientific method and basis of hypotheses

The average person, takes it as absolute truth nowadays, unfortuantely.

@@lxuaes6915 bruh if there was ever anything to blindly follow in this world. Science is the best. Lol niw certain religions, another story.

@@hunterzolomon1303 What about intuition? You shouldn't follow anything blindly and be people love to pit science and spirituality at odds. Einstein was a deeply spiritual person.There's a difference between spirituality and dogma.

It goes even deeper

Enter Islam.

@@tarekelbarkaoui7838 what'd you mean ?

@@devendrasinghbhadoriya234he means to become muslim and by definition to submit to the one true God, Allah, who is to be worshipped alone without joining partners in his worship. Please read His revelation, the Qur’an and listen to it being recited, it will be like opening your soul to the truth. Just trust me. You’ll NEVER regret it.

​@@devendrasinghbhadoriya234lol the comment probably came off as a bit direct but ig he's encouraging u to look into Islam if ur curious

It sounds smart when he is explaining it to a dumb person. It makes absolute sense that there is no scientific FACT, just hypothesis based on historical events.

@@manbiteslife3110yeah smart things make sense. Are you saying it’s not smart because it makes sense?

@@man7143No , I'm saying that people with mediocre intelligence will find smart things, extremely intellectual when they are basic concepts lmao

​@@manbiteslife3110 y'all are conflating fact with probability. Science itself says there are no absolutes, but that gravity, for example, is 99.999999% probable.

Help me understand it?

Genuinely curious...

@@MohammadImran-kv8ek I ended up listening to the podcast, Firas did a brilliant job explaining it...

@@wasimoooo Then you haven't read Nassim Taleb, the quote above is a complete nonsense!

Not even an oxymoron, just an utter drivel!

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Goat comment

Really underrated.

You ain't lying

until covid.

@Bink* not, science is theory, hypothesis, models, experiments and data analysis. If you you add scientists as person and institutions you will have politics and religion also. Don't confuse hypothesis with theory.

@@leliel12th43 I agree with you, but a theory can be both weak and strong. It wasn't until the last century that everyone believe in the theory that the universe was static and infinite with no beginning or end. Science will either weaken or strengthen existing theories, but we can not treat them as fact.

Something else Science is not . . History! Why some atheist scientists think they can discover the Truth of our origins by playing at being Historians is beyond me! What is the point of trying to prove the big bang or some other universe origin theory? Or the evolution of man from nothing into sentient life that makes cars, buildings, computers and stuff??? So desperate to throw God out of the "equation" (really, there is no equation that can contain God), eh? As far as I'm concerned, The Purpose of Science is to gain enough understanding of how things work and what its made of, to develop Technology to better the human race (and maybe better some animals too) Leave the History to the Historians!

Correct brother, science is a relativist discipline at its core. many people do not understand this.

Firas Zahabi the genius

Joe is throwing good questions. Tough fight.

Joe isn’t the racist thug that some woke people make him out to be.

It blew my fucking world hahahaha Those philosophical explanations are insane...

Why? Bc they don’t have the labels of authority? Silly

No it's not. It's a set of principles that govern the process of determining that which corresponds with reality and that which doesn't. It makes no proclamation that tomorrow will be like today. What it does say is that IF tomorrow is like today then you should expect to see certain things. So tired of people reciting stupid religious apologetic nonsense.

​@@Haunting1981 science rests upon philosophical naturalism which presupposes exactly that the future will behave like the past. That being because there is no randomness under naturalism. Keep up gaytheist

@@Haunting1981 No, it necessarily does. How would you go about determining those principles? Through observation and experimentation. a)Things don’t all happen at once, therefore time exists. b) There’s no such thing as ‘now’- as soon as you mention it, it is not 'now' anymore, but instead then. So you’re using *past* experiences (i.e. observation and experimentation) to determine *current* principles of reality, hence, by necessity assuming the regularity of behavior. Sufficient regularity is an effectively reliable correlation, absolutely, but that doesn’t demonstrate certitude. Assumptions are requisite for engaging with reality, not ‘apologetic’. Besides, you were attempting to define science, Firas was simply explaining its underlying paradigm- you’re barking up the wrong tree.

​@Haunting1981 you clearly don't understand the first thing about the philosophy of science. How do you test a hypothesis? The scientific method relies completely on the future acting like the past

​@@Haunting1981this

@Taimoor Khan To your ignoramus mind yes. To others who can understand or try to understand philosophical arguments. he's a genius.

@Taimoor Khan lmao your an idiot Taimoor

Taimoor Khan lmao 😂. @Mohammed Glal never respond to people like this. You cant fix stupid.

@Taimoor Khan lmao man said read some quotes he has a degree in philosphy

Very true, i noticed this as well because i have trouble bringing my ideas to other people.

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nah this ain't smoke this is woke

Aaaahahahahahahaha literally

Sharp? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 dude is crazy

@@pnut3844able his not crazy his part of the intellectual elite of our generation if you want to learn anything in life you go to the best so humble your self and pick someone who can explain the world to you.

Meh.....

Well I think scientists admit that they cannot land on absolute 100% truth

@@-Ahmed8592 ya broo

He is ridiculous and makes sense all at once

True enough.

bruh this guy is just screaming out terms and scientific and philosophical jargen that he can't explain and doesn't understand. It's just nonsense.

Jordan peterson

@@raymo189 that would be Amazing!

@@raymo189 hahahhah no

​​@@raymo189ikes! Peterson doesn't understand philosophy. He doesn't understand anything other than psychology. Maybe he's a good clinician too. That's about it. He's a good orator who has Prof in front of his name and spoke out about something that many people believe but no one represents their view in the mainstream discourse, which JP did, this won over a big audience.

That would be one guest that understands philosophy

Doesn’t take much to impress you I see 😂

So I'm reading comments and as I see the word randomness that word comes out of his mouth. That was wierd

@@dickfitswell3437 random 😉

@Lxnkzi what does Logan Paul have to do with this ? 😂

@@dickfitswell3437 So you are reading comments simultaniously with playing a vid. That kinda decreases the quality of both ngl. Although I certainly just watched it to the end only to see how long he's gna be confused.

How the hell do you think hes done so many diverse podcasts? 😂

Right, like when this clown doesn't know the fucking difference between 'reflection' and 'refraction'? 56:07 - he says it not once, but twice. He's a fucking moron and so are you if you're falling for this faux-intellectualism

@@allrequiredfields man chill out

allrequiredfields Um.... Firas Zahabi said "the reflection of the light off the water is bent." He wasn't defining refraction. He was saying what we observe. Refraction is bending of light. The light bends in water due to change in medium and we see a reflection of it. We observe light because of reflection. That is why we can't see in a dark room. Anyhow Joe Rogan is pretty smart also in my opinion.

c'mon... what your proposing is preposterous... he arguably knows a great deal more than your average person... which is why he is able to have these kind of conversations. he may nod his head in understanding sometimes when contrary but on average who doesn't! give the guy more credit! (my opinion and potentially wrong)

Right. Joe was struggling. It was frustrating.

@@KatameWazaBushi You got some unresolved tensions with Muslims you wanna get off your chest bro? We both understood his thought process. You can understand what someone is trying to communicate to you and still have a differing opinion. It's funny because that's exactly what's going on in this comment thread right now. I understood what both of them were saying, and while you may or may not understand physics, you're clearly missing the larger philosophical discussion being had here. Here's a big one: being able to understand or entertain ideas without subscribing to them. Why are you targeting me anyway? I made the most passive comment in this entire comment section. You flex though bro, if it makes you feel better.

@@KatameWazaBushi no worries. Tbh I don't know why I took it so harshly lmaooo. Normally I don't. Mood tho 😂

@Taimoor Khan See above video.

Do you want a trophy or something?

The same happens to me. It’s incredible how our perspective changes a lot when we try to look at reality based on this way of thinking and observing reality. In fact, nothing is random, but what really frightens me is the idea of how our consciousness crazily believes or perhaps on purpose it was made to be conditioned to believe that it’s in control of every single aspect of decisions that are made by ourselves consciously, otherwise, life would entirely lose its sense.

@Jason Hatfield Who’s John Bell? Did he debunk the determinist theory? 🤔

It's a cute theory, but in quantum mechanics it's has been found there are things that behave by definition randomly. So he's wrong.

@@joeking8789Like you just said “there are things” therefore, it’s not applicable to everything. Quantum mechanics brought up various interesting profound understanding of several stuff, but I don’t think that it has proven that what the guy said in the interview isn’t valid at all. What we call “ random” doesn’t mean it’s surely an infinite state of randomness, but like he suggested it might simply mean we are not yet able to calculate. Something that’s it factually incalculable is addressed as something random, that’s what the definition of randomness suggests itself, in which whatever that is not susceptible to measured is inevitably called as random.

@@jes8253 " Something that’s it factually incalculable is addressed as something random, that’s what the definition of randomness suggests itself, in which whatever that is not susceptible to measured is inevitably called as random." Yes and in quantum mechanics, electrons have been shown to act randomly, by your own definition.

That's sad.

@@pnut3844able please enlighten me then pnut I greatly anticipate your fabled wisdom

@@pnut3844able that’s what I thought you pissant troglodyte

Exactly. Rogan is the biggest scientism worshipper there is. Almost fanatical tbh.

Deeep...

Indeed!

He said that, he literally said are ideas grow and advance everyday.

Exactly

Hahaha

Pee is stored in the billiard balls

TO JOE HE THOUGHT RANDOM YES TO FIRAS HE SAID BUT NOT TO ME I KNEW I WAS GOING TO DO IT

IS THE TABLE NOW WET JOE HAHAHAHAHAHAH

WELL JOE NOW IS THE TABLE BEING WET NOW TRUE AND NOW IS THAT RANDOM

bruh this guy is just screaming out terms and scientific and philosophical jargen that he can't example and doesn't understand. It's just nonsense.

@@ibah6 what credentials do you have to say he’s wrong. I’ve studied philosophy quite extensively and most of what he is saying is spot on.

@@elevatorincident9519 because you're looking at it from a philosophical pov. Every chemist and physicist is watching this and grinding their teeth to the gum

@@dreamybull1509 science is not seperate from philosophy

@@bossman8066 what 🤣🤦🏽

Joe hurts my brain by how stupid he is

Well firas studied philosophy so i believe it

Nice

And that the rent in the fabric between these two gives rise to what we call miracles by God.

When the bald guy realizes he can handle the convo without the woo woo. The “woo” was preventing his comprehension of the points and their depth. It was in his head all this time and he kept asking where is it?

@Iahi Ghusak that is not true, science at a philosophical level is different from what a person thinks of in a daily conversation.

abdul malik November

@@terrybyrd5951 thanks bro

@Jacob Carlson You and @Ghost are being pedantic. I'm an Engineer. If I went as crazy as you every time someone described some concept slightly incorrectly I'd have a stroke by now. Learn to let things go.

ME TO

Same

Yeeee I’m on my 4th or 5th listen

Same

Sameeee

The Lord Jesus Christ is the LORD God of heaven.

@@hermonymusofspartawe love Jesus , but he aint no God.

This person gets it.

Because we're not born brilliant, a good teacher in any setting is the same way because they recognize what's missing in the other person's understanding, not being entitled to the receiver to have all the information that they -the teacher- already have.

And still makes no sense at the end

@@666Havers ?

@@artsyjoe94 C00ppllp

Joe is in way over his head

He’s a protege of Bruce Lee

@Le Monke and who said they were? Did I say that? 🤔

@@paddle_smith What?

no

Execept when you put water into another liquid it's no longer water 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

@@lancevance6346 I haven't defended you?

@@1slamExplained You know whom I'm talking about . Live with that .

@@manchesterunited4619 Yes man,nothing beats fair play like justifying and defending rapists by arguing "BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER RAPISTS AND PEDOPHILES??"

@@manchesterunited4619 Thanks big brother. Come on Manu!

@@lancevance6346 Lmao, you weren't even able to understand what he said. He said you were the pedophile and wasn't trying to defend anyone. He never talked about other rapists and pedophiles. Well, what can I expect from a joker with no morals. If don't know watch the Dark Knight.

I'll do you one better. WHY is the wu?

@@nickhewes6860 Ill do u one even better : who is the Wu

Wu Tang

@@khan_senpai those Chinese fellers from the third century

@@johnnycomelately9400 lol... wooooooooooooooo. sorry.. wuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

This is why i as an ex muslim (gladly) regard your intellect as insincere Firas himself states that this is kot an argument for existence or lack there of God. Yet you shout in everybody’s face this it’s written in your holly book, like okay we get it, it also originated from plato which lived almost thousand years before your holly textbook, yet we decide to further investigate the observation wether it would stand to further complicate scientific facts

@@KoralNawzadEnglishentertainmen lol

Hahaha

u didnt listen did u? Isnt that what they explained is the one truth? I THINK THEREFORE I AM

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@@MegaCharns NOOO THATS A WRONG TRUTH. thinking is inside your mind. your mind is in your consiounsness. you are, therefore you think. :O

​@@MegaCharnsexecept that's not 100% true either. There are no absolutes, just varying degrees of probability.

Bruh 😂🤣

Son....... 😂😂😂😂😂

47:34

Lmao

you mean Rick Flair right?

Not so much...his worldview is incoherent

Love and respect for firas bro

Nothing he said here was impressive or profound, most of it is just his own misunderstanding of semantics. He just hears or thinks of something and runs with it, until someone with the ability to think critically comes along and its all "Yes that's a very good argument"...

@@joeking8789 semantics looks to be the only 'advanced' word in your vocabulary. Perhaps you should go back to school or study philosophy, because you sound as dumb as they come in America.

@@MrHabib135 Why are you gay for Firas? Ewwww

It's because Joes idea of wuu and Firas idea of wuu are different. Firas said there is alot of wuu in science. Firas went on explaining why. Mean while Joe is like what? How is that wuu where is the wuu. And Firas kept going. They engaged in a huge conversation because of a lack of agreement on what wuu is.

If joe didn't press him and just agreed we would not have gotten such an in depth response.

thats the way to go, man

@Cassini Jr. ahahahah

@@guerothepail3526 well actually, their concept of wu is pretty much the same guess you don't understand it either..

Calmly full of b.s.

@@MrStaano How though?

@@noelmalik5018 He really only is "questioning" science degrading it to a belief to a certain extend because he himself believes in a allpowerful being; a god that created the universe. He believes islam is true. A mythical belief system from 1300 years ago without any proof its actually real. So he isnt really genuine.

@@MrStaano If you document yourself on the subject, you'd learn a few things.

@@ponchovilla6189 You mean if i study the subject, not "document". Your english is off. And how do you know i dont know anything about the subject? This Firas dude questions everything about science but not his religion; islam which is a fairytale at best. Get my point?

@@suheilpinto6964 his point was that: the world accepted it was a pulling force, even though it wasnt proven, when in fact we now believe it is a pushing force. But still is can be believed as something else in the future by the same logic. Seems you didnt get it either, but im not surprised since you jumped on the Muslim comment which already shows your bias on the conversation.

@@suheilpinto6964 He has an inferiority complex typical of muslims?? What the hell are you talking about? Your post displays that you do not understand what Firas is talking about at all. It's really not that hard to follow, maybe you should replay the video and try again.

@@EvanUthus Inferiority Complex “Symptoms Fault Finding. ... Performance Anxiety. ... Craving for Attention. ... Increased sensitivity. ... Easily Feeling Disrespected. Now watch the video again and you will see what i'm talking about. You will find that some of these traits are being displayed when he was talking to joe rogan. And if you dont see it because of your ego, you urea and chalmango are fuckin morons.

suheil pinto your such a fucking moron, like seriously wow you ignorant fuck

suheil pinto that’s you jumping to conclusions man are you inside his body knowing that this man feels all what you just stated.

Neil is not a good person to have a conversation with. Neil just like his own voice too much. He is a good Lecturer or a Speaker but definitely not a good person to have any legit conversation.

He is one of the sharpest people in the history of Joe Rogans podcast

Yeah but not sharp enough to see silly that represents his religion...thats kind a sad.

You're both idiots.

@@joeking8789 joe king? More like joe gay

@@joeking8789 are you joking?

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And Firas won flawlessly lol

😂😂😂 Yeah; Right? 🤣🤣🤣 Firas is really trying to Mind fuck Joe Rogan but he keeps reorganizing the phrases to keep it as understood as possible.

Determinism is absolute and free will is an understanding . Absolute science if applied to both , it will not contradict either .

English is my 2nd language, I speak it well yet I understood each and every thing he said, he explains very perfectly.

Same here, I think even Joe understood it, but for the sake of the podcast he pushed back. Otherwise there won't be a conversation and therefore no podcast. Really makes Joe's job much more complicated that I imagined.

@@virajchavan724 i dont think so, joe tends to agree alot with most of his guests which is natural since he invites People in that he respects and admires. Therefor i believe that in moments of debates or indication of scepsis/disagreement from his side i think it comes from a genuine place

bruh this guy is just screaming out terms and scientific and philosophical jargen that he can't example and doesn't understand. It's just nonsense.

He's talking about the philosophy of science

Lol yeah it's incredible, I'm surprised he had a guy like this on

I wanna be a learner - Brian Regan

I'm trying to learn about "orbitals" "diffusely". It's not so easy for lots of ppl to get everything other ppl talk about. It doesn't automatically make them "stupid" tho

@Mohammed Al-mawla I had the same experience in my AP Philosophy class back in high-school. Truly, we had a weekly essay to write every Friday and once the question was "How do you know you exist", and my reply was "if your reading this then that's proof I exist. This is a stupid question.". I. Got a B- lol.

what bugs me is Firas keeps ignoring the math.....Math predicted the light would bend around the sun,the math predicted the curve of space time and it still makes predictions we still cant explain..Such as dark energy or dark matter...its not dark it literally a stand in name for something we have yet to prove physically but has to exist for the math to add up....My point is i get what he is saying but i disagree with him when it comes to things math confirms or even predicts long before we could ever prove it...Black holes was only just proven to actually exist though we have had the math of them for 100 years or so......

Frias's philosophy about science is what's wrong with his argument completely. Science wasn't constructed to be a way of life but a tool to rationalize our world through empirical and logical evidence. His "woo woo" is his perspective on how he chooses to see the world.

​@@mosaabtwice3999they reject everything he says because he's Muslim. It's called Xenophobia even though modern science has been passed down by Muslims.

Threshold 2025 I never said or implied that you do.

And the vast majority of millions that are not

I laughed too hard at this.

Threshold 2025 it sure helps, if you want to be taken seriously when trying to "educate" someone 🤨

Sorting Myself Out it's not really that complicated for a well read person and an open minded person.

exactly.. Watch this documentary if you havn't kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbWldpijtK_Yp4k.html

Well of course, that's the way to go. He would be far more ignorant if he accepted everything Firas said. I'm sure with time he'll understand it. Firas just planted the seed, you cannot expect the tree to grow in one day

Its called advanced philosophy. But id give Joe credit on his first go he’s the only podcaster to stay on track in a conversation of this magnitude

@Le Monke No.

@@artaxAF yes.

Maybe he became the best fighter of all time because of having such a profound coach like this?

@@MM_Da_59_Spirit possible. Both are narratives tho

Actually GSP hangs out more with him since he's retired, they're always together

Lmao

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I agree 100% I believe it was said, that if you cant explain something to a person in a way they can understand, then you yourself dont really understand. Or something to that effect.

There's a saying: If you have full control of an idea, you should be able to explain it in very few words, so that anyone who's not aware at all of the concept would understand it.

@@thirdromaniantribe2575 that's the one!

Are you out of your mind!? This guy is talking about Philosophy...!! There is nothing SIMPLE in Philosophy... The whole idea of philosophy is vague!

@@tylerblair7416 yeah Sagan said that I believe

Firas throws the word truth when talking about science, there is no truth in science there are axioms.

@@jkntrds9635 exactly, science can show what is wrong and therewith approach truth. Reaching absolute truth doesnt even matter for most fields, when you reach a sufficient level of accuracy then it can be used to do stuff. this is typical philosopher talk which in the end achieves nothing.

@@TheDr00g if you read between the lines you realise that he is throwing that all science is wuwu narrative because he is a practising muslim.

@@jkntrds9635 I dont care what he is and I honestly cannot tell from this talk alone what his intentions and biases are. Although I see similarities with science-religion/philosophy debates.

@@jkntrds9635 Really ignorant to believe that. He's talking about what science truly is and how it cannot be used to explain everything. Also Islam never says Science is wrong. In fact it encourages muslims to discover more about it. However if the only thing you can take from this debate is him being muslim then you really need to realize what kind of person you are

Pretty sure Joe gets it, but its such an impractical philosophy to own because you go around in life feeling like you don't know what reality actually is. It either makes you absurdly skeptical (like Firas seems to be) or it makes you more susceptible to believing or considering obvious bs as reality.

@@baltejbains5959 @Baltej Bains you can still entertain the philosophy and know what is "real". You won't doubt that taking the stairs will lead you to the upper flow, you will just have a different view on it (all).

@@baltejbains5959 firas is not absurdly skeptical he just sees things for what they are. he is saying alot of what people believe to be "self evident truths" are not even close to that.

@@baltejbains5959 firas is a Muslim, and unlike many other religions it's very pragmatic. you would be hard-pressed to find a debate about the Islamic god where an atheist "wins" the debate other than them saying "we know we don't know". and just like Firas (BELIVES) in science without the need of a 100% proof he also BELIVES in god without the need in 100% proof.

Baltej Bains impractical but the truth. How can you deny the truth

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raichan abdikar hahahahaha man I cracked .

Very true, so frustrating

Firas sounded condescending, despite Joe actually having the better understanding of scientific principles.

Chris Distant i disagree

@@chrisdistant9040 you have that absolutely arse about tit lad.

He does not strike me as being humble when he says those words and phrases. To me, he seems to have a condescending undertone.

20:33 He almost slipped into Arabic and said "'sahh' (Arabic for "correct")",

Because he's an idiot

@@enriquet.753 i mean no he’s just saying that to show that no one can perceive this information easily so It’s ok for Joe to struggle in understanding the concept

@@enriquet.753 that’s your insecurity of your own lack of education. you can be humble and have a sophisticated vocabulary its all about attitude. he isn’t showing off or using big words unnecessarily.

@AHMED SABBIR I liked Jordan Peterson and Neil Degryse Tayson podcasts as well

@AHMED SABBIR Also the one with Naval Ravikant

God, this was the fucking worst. This was semantics being passed off as deep.

All his graham Hancock podcasts are super legit

@@allrequiredfields just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's semantics. Semantics is if I were to say that a mouse is small and then you were to correct me and say it's tiny. That would be semantics but what these people are talking about is a theory that you clearly didn't understand