I actually emailed Henry in a point of desperation when my music stuff was starting to take off (it later crashed and burned and I'm flying a desk now) and seeing what he thought I should do. He got back to me in about two hours and gave some solid advice despite me asking dumbass kid questions. Very respectful and insightful and I'll thank him if I ever meet him.

Somehow knowing Henry Rollins and William Shatner are pals makes me feel better. : )

I met Henry at a party in Chicago after he left Back Flag. He was the most intense person I had ever met up to that point. It's like the intensity of a career criminal that channeled the energy into something positive instead of something negative.

God bless William Shatner for bringing Henry Rollins into the circle.

I mean, if you’re only gonna have one friend, Bill Shatner is an epic choice

Introverts get very tired of having to explain themselves...I’ll give you a hint, we are never bored

My first thought was what a sad, lonely guy. Then I realized he’s happy who he is and what he does. Nothing wrong with that.

anybody with social anxiety will understand this video.

Joe Rogan really needs to get The Shatner on his show. That would be an epic conversation.

Rollins is a walking anxiety attack.....and I love that he's willing to admit that he has it.

Henry is just an introvert like myself. Some people prefer their own company and have never had the urge for a familiy or a busy social life. Love the guy.

I love the joy on his face as he talks about Shatner and their friendship. I didn't know I could love Henry even more.

Henry Rollins is one of the best kind of people. A badass tough guy, with a good heart

This interview almost made me cry... what a delightful, sensitive soul. I love that Bill has embraced Henry and that he has such a great, valued friendship with Bill.

Such an endearing piece. As a loner, it is so easy to understand how content one can be without company. No expectations, no let downs or pressure to socialize. I have always been a fan but I have a deeper respect now for Mr. Rollins. Cheers and thank you Henry for stepping out of your comfort zone to sit with Joe.

I've never gone into depth with Rollins work, but I'm a fan of him... just him. I love his passion, his honesty, his openness. I've learnt so much about myself from his self deprecation. He really makes you stop and think about your own life and personality. The best unintentional self help guru of this century.

Captain Kirk is the equivalent of ten friends.

Thats interesting that Henry doesn't have any anxiety as a performer, but he does have it when going to social gatherings.

Social anxiety: The struggle is real. If you're going to plow through it, might as well be to hang out with the Zappas and the Shatners.

Shatner IS one of the nicest people on the planet. I’m not his friend or anything, but I did meet him briefly 3 years ago at a special screening of “Wrath of Khan”. For the brief time we spoke, he was warm, humble, funny… really made you feel like you were the most important person in the room. I hope the guy lives forever.

Henry is so humble and honest. I have much respect for the man and can relate with the anxiety part.

I’ve never purchased any music by Henry Rollins but I can identify completely with him. I have no urge to go to peoples houses for dinner, hanging out, my phone rarely rings, I don’t have kids, never married. Rollins put it perfectly. “I’m just not chipped that way”

I think this is the longest Joe has stayed quiet and listened to a guest lol

Henry Rollins is George McFly in this interview.

I would be honored to be friends with Henry Rollins! Met him once after a show & he was so awesome to his fans. It was miserably cold outside and I patiently waited for over an hour, until everyone else had their opportunity to meet him, because I wanted to ask him about a passage in one of his books, and after we talked, I thanked him for staying out in the cold for so long, and he said "If someone is willing to stand outside in the cold just to meet me or get something signed, of course I gonna do it." I may not have quoted that verbatim but that was the gist. I realise that it's not always convenient for celebrities to hang out with their fans, but He went above and beyond to make every fan feel like they were appreciated. Nothing but respect for Henry.

"Ensign Rollins, you will...... be at football........ monday, correct?" Captain Kirk, 2003

Shatner is rockin' 89 like a 60 year old!

the reason stagefright isn't a problem is because you have an act, a script you know what you're supposed to be doing for your audience. when you're just hanging out with new people you've never met you start over-thinking how to act natural and it just gets worse and worse.

I Never realised he had such acute social anxiety, he’s such an interesting guy and would have one of him over a million of those wide eyed talentless clones in the charts. This guys knows the truth, he’s seen it. And Joe is really carving this out as in incredible show to keep coming back to with interesting people and genuine exchanges of opinions. not just that he asks real questions and sometimes they are uncomfortable ones but he’s always nice about it, another really incredible and interesting guy

Thank you Rollins and Rogan for understanding social anxiety. Gives me hope and hopefully others to move forward.

Friggin loved this episode. The honesty and straight talking from Henry with Joe providing friendly feedback.

I felt sad for him until I found out his best friend is William Shatner. Now I'm jealous.

*Movie Reboot:* Henry Rollins and William Shatner starring as _The Odd Couple!_

Henry seems very genuine and down to earth. Bless his Heart. 👍

Freddie Mercury was the same way. Perhaps the greatest live performer ever, but very shy and introverted off stage.

He pissed in a urinal next to me at the Uptown Lounge in Athens. I looked over at him and said, "do a good show man". That was the most embarrassing moment of my life in retrospect.

My greatest personal insight (I haven't had many)in life is that not only is it OK to have flaws it is, in an odd way, the part about us that makes us relatable and likable.

Henry is such an original guy, really genuine, and authentic. He doesn't try to be what he's not, and I love that about him. I know exactly how he feels about friendship. BTW that album he did with WS was epic!! So well done and hilarious at the same time.

Oddly enough Henry Rollins is my perfect idea of a freind.

Henry Rollins has always been one of my favorite artists because of his persona in real life. He's so real and honest. His work ethic is insane and his graciousness is legendary

I could listen to Henry talk all day long! What an amazing human being and such a GIFT! The world is a better place with him in it!

It's so crazy to hear this coming from Henry Rollins. Most of my life he is someone that I have always thought of as a tough as nails, confident man who doesn't care what others think of him. To see how timid he is, and how much he is afraid of what others think of him. And to see how he is affected by social anxiety just like everyone else. This is exactly why I love Joe Rogans show. You see just how real and amazing everyone is!

Henry is classic! When I was much younger, in my mid twenties (58 now) a good friend would write Henry Rollins, like fan mail. He wrote about depression he was experiencing and Henry actually took time out of his day and wrote him back every time! Not an assistant, or a press company...Henry wrote him back. Deep respect for his art and his down to earthness, along with his respect for his fans. I can't say I've ever heard of anyone else doing this.

i can relate to rollin's story about anxiety, respect and appreciation.

Really admire his humble, honest approach. Very refreshing.

I just love how grounded Joe's show is. Joe and his guests are absolutely amazing.

Henry Rollins and Ian Mackaye talking every Sunday is the cutest thing ever.

Boldly going where no punk rocker has gone before. LOVE IT!!!!!!!

I love Henry Rollins... Wish I could meet him someday. No matter what he does or who he speaks with he is always interesting, heartfelt and strong. Big Fan... Good show Joe; I suspect you see and feel the same way which is why you have him on. I smiled and contemplated his careful and thorough description of the woes he has experienced... Tell Shatner he's awesome too please!

It's great to hear a fellow introvert express those things. Henry does it VERY well, and the *total* disconnect so obvious on Joe's face and in his questions is something introverts experience ALL THE TIME. My wife is an extreme extrovert, and while we love each other, we will never understand one another. Social situations energize and refuel her. They exhaust me. She's *genuinely* interested in the lives of others. I couldn't care less about that, and I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be interested in me. Your kids play t-ball? Ok. Fine. I like the color blue. Did we just have fun? My enjoyment is inversely proportional to the number of people near me. But I'm never lonely. Thanks Henry for providing a peek into the mind of an intelligent, thoughtful, determined introvert!

Reminds me of Robin Williams. He was the same way.

Dude I love your show for a long time. Too many great interviews and conversations to name but this one-I’m having a hard time not making this number one. Ed Rollins opened up to you for fourteen minutes in such a real raw articulate way that I’m about to watch it again. I listen to talk radio on my ride into work and spend half my time yelling at the radio “shut up and let him talk!” You can see why most get into radio because love hearing themselves talk. The host interviewer should ask the right questions and interject his personality and humor sparingly and disarm the guest and make them comfortable enough to talk. Your “talk” with Ed was a great example of that . So great job. Rollins was awesome

I met Shatner in Greenbriar mall in Chesapeake, VA, he was hammered. He asked me and my friend if "I saw Gina Davis, you know, the generic Julia Roberts." Turned around and stumbled away. LOL

Oh my God when he talked about approaching William Shatners house and hearing people laughing and having a good time and freezing with fear I felt that way too much. I'm a therapist I talk to people and help them figure out their problems for a living, facilitating groups of 15 strangers in a psychiatric ward. I am completely comfortable and alive doing that, but put me in a get together full of strangers and its unbearable.

He seems like such a sweetheart of a guy! Just a humble dude. Been a fan of his for a long time!

"it's easy for me to be in front of people, that's a very different thing than being with people". I knew I liked Henry Rollins WAY before this, but that summed up things for me in so many ways. I so would love to meet that man some day.

I get where's he's coming from, same here buddy.

Wow, Henry Rollins is REALLY really interesting. I gotta listen to more of his music.

the fact that he's till still friends with Ian Mackaye warms my punk heart like nothing else.

One more reason to love Henry!!! He’s just so honest.

I can relate totally. I have the same phobias at 72. My new adapted family (4yrs) has helped me to push past it. Its still my natural default ‘go to place’ though and i have to make a conscious effort.

Rollins is a socially awkward individual that doesn’t like hanging out with groups of people...which is fine since many people are like that. I used to really like his music from when he was part of Black Flag and the other bands over the years. As an actor I really like him also. He played “Cain” in the movie called He Never Died, a small Indy film that wasn’t seen by many people unfortunately. That said it was an entertaining movie and he did a good job in it.

One of the best conversations I've ever heard. Thanks to both of you!

As an only child and an introvert with a strong personality, I totally respect how henry is. Infact I admire him for keeping his him time, and be an admired public figure for his work. Good stuff

Henry Rollins is cool. So unpretentious. Just being himself. Legend

Henry Rollins is awesome ! And Joe is a phenomenal host !

I didn’t realize how much I empathize with Henry. He really spoke of my life. Wow. I’m kinda blown away.

So far as I only started watching Rogan for a few months , it is a great show. Unlike every other interview show the guest actually gets to drive the direction of the conversation. As well Mr Rogan allows his guests to actually talk. Have to watch this full interview. Aware of Henry Rollins more by his stature as a punk icon. Know a few of his tunes, but the guy is fun to listen to.

Henry has that humble/appreciative quality celebs like Shatner would enjoy with another celeb.

The new William Shatner record "Shat Rollins Downhill."

Dude I fucking love Henry and Joe talking. Both just great dudes who complement each other's personalities so well.

Thank you Joe for pointing out that hearing Henry Rollins talk about social anxiety really helps people like me. I go through everything that Henry was talking about on daily basis.and thank you Mr. Rollins for being a bad ass

Very cool. I’ve always liked you Joe, Henry too. This is funny, he has said exactly two words to me as a fan spaced out over ten years. Years ago Rollin’s Band was in town so I went. First band was playing and I went straight to the bar in this big open rectangular club. The bar and bathrooms were at one end and the stage at the other. Got my beer and started to walk towards the stage. It just so happened that someone coming out of the bathroom was kind of paralleling me. We were walking even. Went about half way and stopped. I thought to myself either that’s Henry’s number one fan or that’s Henry Rollins. I’d read his books and knew how he was a bit. Nobody else noticed him, he was checking out the opener and the sound. I stopped even with him and wanted to say something but not really bother him and be respectful. I slowly side stepped nearer and nearer. I stared at the stage and finally leaned in and said “ how’s it going?” Without even turning his head he said “good.” I slowly side stepped back to my original position. He finally got noticed, people trying to talk to him. He got an uncomfortable look on his face and went backstage. That was one word. Ten years later I saw him on a spoken word tour and caught him outside after the show. He was actually talking to people so I thought I’d give it a try. I had written down two of my favorite books on a piece of paper to give to him. Rogue Warrior by Richard Marcinko who started team 6 and Boyd the man who perfected the art of war. Two excellent books that I highly recommend. I walked up to him and gave him the paper saying I have a couple of good books for you to check out. “Yeah?” He said. That was word Two, two words over ten years. Ha, ha! Peace, Phil

I feel that pressure he is talking about. It is such a grind to be a musician or content creator. This has been such an amazing podcast! This is why I started my own channel! Joe is the goat!

I love the duality of how badass Henry is being offset by how Intellectual and shy he is.

Henry's smile is formidable. Great to see this side of him. He's way more sincere than arrogant.

Henry shows that forcing yourself to Interact socially thousands of times does nothing to make it easier the next time.

"If you could pick one person to fight, who would it be?" "William Shatner. I'd fight William Shatner." "If you could pick one person to be friends with, who would it be?" "William Shatner. I'd be friends with William Shatner."

I love listening to Joe and Henry. They're never boring.

I relate with this so much. I appreciate Henry being so honest.

holy fuck, he sounds SO much like me!!! i wasn't always like this, but i've fallen madly in love with my independence.

I bought his anthology book years ago. The guy has a way with words to be sure.

It's refreshing knowing that everyone has this.

One of your best interviews, totally enjoyable.

Really enjoyed this. The amazing Bill Shatner! No wonder Star Trek was so good. He has so much energy that one day we'll read that he spontaneously combusted. Warp core breach!!

Billy Bob Thornton would be the perfect friend for Henry.

I wish I had him as a mentor when I was younger. I can completely understand the social anxiety, 100%. And as a kid, when ever asked "what do you want to do when you get older" I'd answer a singer. Love music. That said, wild horses couldn't get me in front of a crowd. Way to scared I'd sound like crap, forget words etc. Pretty much the same feelings when being social. If I didn't have to work, I probably wouldn't leave the house.......And now i'm 46 with a failing body from work. Not only missed my boat, I watched sail away. 😥

henry i met u alot back in the 80's . u took me & my friend backstage "Lifetime " Tour . Black Flag was great. loved your first 3 albums w them. Your spoken word tours. Thanks man. U really turned out a great guy

Shatner's version of Lucy in the sky with diamonds is the best Beatles cover ever!

I totally get everything he said.....friendships are hard and sometimes messy and sometimes worth it hassle. I spend a lot of time alone lol

I appreciate and understand this friendship. It’s not easy but it’s safe. You never know who you will mesh with.

Fantastic interview.... Please book him in as much as possible....

Introverts Unite! Separately, in your own homes, comfortably content with your existance!

joe calls Henry out for being like him. Joe is that guy who is doing 50 things at once too.

makes me feel good to listen about his social/personal life. i'm not the only one

I can appreciate what Henry Rollins is say. When you're in front of people it's a performance, you're kind of portraying a character even if the character is an idealized version of yourself. It's much different than the give and take of interaction.

What a great friend William Shatner..he sees him once a year lol

the comic or performer is the only person in the room facing the wrong way

Kudos Joe. Just found your channel, and very happy to be aboard

when i was younger Henry scared me ,but listening to him now he is a real good guy WHO KNEW!!!!