🧙 Pyres and Blood: The True Cause of the Summerhall Tragedy

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When Daenerys walked out of Khal Drogo's pyre with three baby dragons, the entire world stopped and watched. In this video I look at why that may have happened and been seen in advance in the world of dreams and prophecy as well unraveling the mysteries of the Tragedy at Summerhall. Also answer why so many Targaryens turn up mad like Aerys the Mad King, Aegon V the Unlikely, and Aerion Brightflame.
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@GrayArea 5 жыл бұрын

Yasssssss!!! This is amazing!!!! Seriously next level ish! and BOOKSHELFFFFFFFF you should read TWOW and ADOS. Let’s start a petition now!

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

Watch out Harry Lloyd!

@ygknight1478 5 жыл бұрын

GrayArea thanks

@Bookshelfstudios 5 жыл бұрын

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@careydanna4924 5 жыл бұрын

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@sweetsu3s 5 жыл бұрын

Could these visions be about Danny's final funeral pyre? The one we have not seen yet. It seems the symbolism is pointing to a final pyre for love. Maybe Jon's pyre. It would seem someone is going to become an actual dragon. I just hope it isn't Ghost in the pyre with Jon and Melisandre instead of a stallion and Mirri Maz Duur. The antidote to the Others?

@nmvidro 3 жыл бұрын

*slaps wild fire flask* This bad boy can hatch sooo many dragons 😏 Aerion: *Drinks it*

@Levacque Жыл бұрын

Also maybe the salesman shouldn't slap vessels of wildfire. That'd be dangerous in and of itself.

@yetipotato8567 Жыл бұрын

"WELL THEN LET IT BE FINISHED!!" and GULPS it down

@yetipotato8567 Жыл бұрын

Or maybe he tossed a bottle of beer in well prepaired foreproof dragon hatching furnace a and drinks deep from wildfire

@melledevries4685 4 жыл бұрын

I believe that, if GRRM were to live for another seventy years, we'd see a number of new Dunk and Egg stories, the last one revealing what really happened at the Tragedy at Summerhall. I think that's a logical thing for that series to build up to.

@chafrey8532 2 жыл бұрын

I think the summer hall reveal in the final dunk and egg would be the last story grrm would write if he were to get there.

@Argos-xb8ek 2 жыл бұрын

@@chafrey8532 A true bittersweet finale

@killerjob12 Жыл бұрын

Well we know Dunk & Egg both die at the tragedy At Summerhall so that would be a logical end to the tales of Dunk & Egg 🤣

@Levacque Жыл бұрын

Most likely, yes. I think we'll get some significant hints during the final two ASOIAF books, but the full mystery will be held back until Egg's life story is told.

@hugoguzman4985 Жыл бұрын

lmao yeah and we still wouldn't have the Winds of Winter

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

Melisandre Sufficiently misinformed to be a suitable pov character.

@made-line7627 4 жыл бұрын

Not in this saga!

@emiliocamachoerice6380 5 жыл бұрын

A Feast for Crows - Samwell IV Sometimes he would mutter in his sleep. When he woke he'd call for Sam, insisting that he had to tell him something, but oft as not he would have forgotten what he meant to say by the time that Sam arrived. Even when he did recall, his talk was all a jumble. He spoke of dreams and never named the dreamer, of a glass candle that could not be lit and eggs that would not hatch. He said the sphinx was the riddle, not the riddler, whatever that meant. He asked Sam to read for him from a book by Septon Barth, whose writings had been burned during the reign of Baelor the Blessed. Once he woke up weeping. "The dragon must have three heads," he wailed, "but I am too old and frail to be one of them. I should be with her, showing her the way, but my body has betrayed me." I think it's very important to note that aemon stumbled upon a major breakthrough in the prince that was promised prophecy solving without noticing, in the Sphinx which is a composite being and was the oldest symbol of valyria, and means that the prince that was promised with the blood of the Sphinx has both the blood of the dragon and the black blood of the skinchangers that's why there's a movement to put blackwood blood in the Targaryen family and why Jon was made

@mayab3660 5 жыл бұрын

But both rhaegar and daenerys has Blackwood blood,their great grandmother was Betha Blackwood. So why the need to make Jon?

@stannisarcanine2167 5 жыл бұрын

@@mayab3660I'm Emilio I agree with you I'll reply to you later because I think Jon and Danny can do things the other cannot I'll go into Jon on the rightful king video I'll do in this other channel I have for videos

@trisarathops 5 жыл бұрын

Great impression of R’hllor’s struggle with one particular minion of his at 06:45 😂🙈👍

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

I'd like it if the skulls around Jon's face aren't a warning but R'hllor being frustrated and sending angry emojis.

@tworavens6854 3 жыл бұрын

Danny was 'Stormborn' - but was also a perfect storm of events that combined to hatch dragons. Her ancestors saw flashes of the event only and tried to re-create that moment in time. But how many combinations and permutations of outcomes had to happen in a specific pattern for that 'magical' event to succeed? Her special song....

@AzkuulaKtaktu Жыл бұрын

Stormborne

@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын

Dany's eggs hatched because she interrupted a blood magic ritual and her baby's life essence transferred to the dragon eggs, quickening them. The fire then allowed them to hatch, as they also need warmth to hatch So the only combinations and permutations were (1) getting the eggs, (2), Khal Drogo getting an infection, (3) Dany desperate, so gets 'healer,' and (4) interrupts blood magic ritual, and (5) decides to light a massive fire with her eggs in it

@tworavens6854 Жыл бұрын

@@pyropulseIXXI the entire dance of the dragons, summerhall, Danny’s mother dying, fleeing to the free cities….thousands of combinations bringing her to that moment - resulting in her eggs hatching & her not being burned by the fire. We don’t know how magic works in that world, let alone this “miracle” event, as GRRM called it. Was it Drogos body burning, was it Miri Maz Dur burning? What brought her to Drogo….is there something about his blood/heritage that we don’t know yet? Even in reality, a thousand little things happening brings you to a moment.

@rustyk4645 Жыл бұрын

@@tworavens6854 Mirri, Drogo and her unborn child. 3 lives for 3 lives.

@tworavens6854 Жыл бұрын

@@rustyk4645 Yes! But was their blood important? Mirri Maz Dur was not only a godswife, a maegi - blood magic, learned shadow binding from Asshai & studied with Archmaester Marwyn. We don’t know Drogos blood lineage….but he was mighty “Strong/old gods”, maybe. Her unborn child….who really knows what the dark magic did to its blood? The series continually mentions bloodlines, the power of blood magic, etc…GRRM explained the hatching of the dragon eggs & Danny surviving the fire pit as a “miracle”. When is anything that straight forward in GOT as 3 just = 3? Many combinations & permutations create an outcome.

@dcell2216 4 жыл бұрын

Haaah! I love the "countless eyes"witnessing the rebirth of dragons concept. A magical phenomona crossing space and time maybe synonym to somekind of worship power fueling something, in this case the birthing of a magical creature from stone. Some stories like "American Gods touch on the base that gods recieve strenght trough worship from people. Having countless greenseers, Priests, Mages and what more traveling trough space and time to observe such an important moment in time could perhaps create somekind of magical bubble, interacting with something magical like the eggs in the real world. Awesome.

@bryantaylor9874 5 жыл бұрын

Right or wrong this is one of the most original, well presented theories I've seen, and I've seen them all.

@hollycooper7177 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊 this was very good! I love the whole dreams motif in this series. Taking the Targaryens' dreams across the centuries really shows the connections that the Targaryens had. It's a new way to look at their attempts to hatch dragons. I also think it increases Dany's importance in that she was successful. Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts!

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

Think it really shows their desperation and lack of knowledge at the time. They previously had the ability to do so, but then many of them died in war and civil war, Baelor burned the books that may have held the secret, and all they were left with was guesses that didn't pan out. And so they turned to the one magical thing they had, their dreams and prophecies, for an answer.

@norarobinson3091 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to grey area for introducing us to this awesome channel

@arianewinter4266 4 жыл бұрын

My guesses, incest, confused instincts due to there dragon blood and the strain of a bond with a dragon that is a two way street, every one in itself enough to tear someones sanity apart, the combination is downright desastrous

@himynameisrev 5 жыл бұрын

I think the main irk I have with this is that clearly previous Targaryens didn’t do Dany’s ritual to birth dragons. Rhaenyra hatched quite a large number without killing any kings. I guess it doesn’t detract from the main premise that everyone has been watching Dany hatch her eggs on Prophecy TV though

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

That's a good point, in my mind after the two Targaryen civil wars and the oft overlooked purge of knowledge by Baelor the Blessed, they really didn't have any idea how it worked. They kept doing the eggs in the cribs, put the eggs back in Dragonstone, but nothing. So they turned to Daeron who at least at some level was magical.

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeMagician Baelor the Destructive. Did some greenseer meddle with his mind to turn him into a weapon against his own family?

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

@@alanpennie8013 Possibly, I tend to think he tried to avoid the need for dragons. Like if dragons coming signals the end times and the new Long Night, then if they never return there won't be a long night. Or he was trying to suppress knowledge in order to protect the dragons that he was trying to hatch.

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeMagician That makes sense (if "sense" is the right word in this context).

@Sisi4360 5 жыл бұрын

maybe you can explain...Osha was carrying Bran to the weirwood tree...doing that time the comet flew over them...Bran looks into the water and saw Arya's face...this has always bothers me...why did this happen???

@brandonlambert9768 4 жыл бұрын

It's been over a year, and I'm still not over what befell our beloved Dragon Queen, the Queen we choose.

@VinAbuqrq 4 жыл бұрын

This is closely related to a theory I had for a while that I always liked but don't talk much because it's not only tinfoil, but also because it would be impossible to prove in the narrative, that is: The Long Night never happened and the legends we have of it stem from ancient greenseers watching the "current events" from the Weirwoods. Over that light, the Wall was built in order to prevent the Long Night, and not after it. Azor Ahai, the Last Hero, the Prince that was Promised are not the same person occurring at the same time, but rather, possible and excludent futures that our protagonist Jon Snow will have to choose which to follow. That is, Jon will have to choose: a) looking for the Children of the Forest for rescue b) killing Daenerys to forge a magic weapon c) Whatever the Prince that was Promised is supposed to do d) Something new. [my guess: Something the Weirwoods could never see because it demands the destruction of the Weirwoods] But the best part is the follow through: The Night's King is the consequence of choosing the Azor Ahai path. He returns to the Wall, falls for a Wight Daenerys and is brought down not by Bran the Breaker, but Bran the Broken. After thousands of years of oral legends, the details are fuzzy and too diluted into culture. For all I know, "Joramund" could as well be an exiled "Jorah Mormont" too.

@kaitlyncrossley5726 Жыл бұрын

This is a pretty interesting theory, and one I’ve yet to come across.

@RW77777777 11 ай бұрын

I know what's causing the anomaly; it's like the chicken and the egg Will, the chicken & the egg!!

@aldenrobelldeloyola1502 Жыл бұрын

I saw a tweet saying that the opening line by Viserys from the House of Dragon trailer was also a dream which he thought the dragon queen was pertaining to his daughter Rhaenyra (naming her as his heir), but didnt know it was Dany in his dream

@JoeMagician Жыл бұрын

Yup! That's what I think, I also put it in my last video.

@alexstewart9747 5 жыл бұрын

wow dude. Thanks for your thought provoking narrative throughout the vid. That creepy music too. Im so glad I found your channel.

@SeptaShaenasSapphires 5 жыл бұрын

The voice actor for the Pyromancer voice talking about the 🐉 almost makes me believe in magic.

@Y0DAV3 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact; the actor that plays the pyromancer in the series, Roy Dotrice also reads the ASOIAF audio books.

@williamwhitfield6225 3 жыл бұрын

@@Y0DAV3 To be honest I think they could have gone a better direction with the audio books.

@kingk9407 3 жыл бұрын

I think they feed into the “ greatness “ of their house and it makes them determined that they are more than what they are at times

@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын

Joe, I've been a fan of yours since I first started getting involved in GOT. But I am chronically ill with massive fatigue, and I would listen to your podcasts and fall asleep only due to their length, not due to your amazing work in the slightest!!! It's March, 2020 and I've started to listen to all of your videos, and I'm so incredibly thankful that I did!! Your work is fantastic, full of thought, insight, an open mind, and brilliance! Thank you for everything you do!!! I feel like I'm having a conversation with someone who thinks in a similar vein as myself. Thank you.

@jessicalowery3718 Жыл бұрын

He has a very smooth and calming voice . Kinda like being read to sleep. I listened to these ads well when I was very ill.

@branthebeardedbuilder6813 5 жыл бұрын

Aerys building the second wall is reminiscent of antonines wall built after emperor Hadrian died. Who build Hadrians wall

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't know, that cool connection!

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeMagician The difference is that the Antonine Wall, silly idea though it was, actually did get built.

@morlath4767 3 жыл бұрын

Alt Shift X mentioned this video in their latest upload. Now I've watched it, and you've got a fan and a new subscriber!

@JoeMagician 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@ruvend2581 Жыл бұрын

I watched multiple of your videos a while back but the Larys video got me to watch some older ones of you I haven’t watched yet. And I LOVE it. This video might be one of my favorite asoiaf videos (and I have watched way too many) and it looks like I have to watch all your other videos I haven’t seen (at all or for a long time) because the quality is so high

@Complex_Vixen 5 жыл бұрын

I absolutely luv the way u take everything from the books and bring them to life!! You and Gray are great when u podcast together as well: u 2 are definitely in my top 5 GOTs go to’s for updates and just deep talk about the show and books storyline

@calikal1968 5 жыл бұрын

Seeing a notification from your channel is always a joy!!! This vid makes so much sense!!! Thanks! Can’t wait for the live stream!

@ladyevolett 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I agree that there's been a lot of dreaming and a lot of misinterpretation going on. Melisandre does not like dreaming and hopes to be free of it in the future, yet like the Targs, she too is focused on waking dragons from stone. I noticed a while ago that she seems to be less interested in the Nissa Nissa aspect of the forging of Lightbringer, opting for a symbolic version of the legend - the sword through the heart of the Mother of the Seven she burned. Selyse should have been her logical target for empowering the sword, barring that, Shireen - well more like Shireen because Stannis does not care for his wife, but he does care for his daughter. Instead, Mel is bent on acquiring King’s blood to fulfil the goal of waking dragons. I’ve been wondering if her obsession stems from a prophecy she read in Asshai or whether she saw it in her flames, perhaps even in an unsolicited dream. Her (and the Targs) focus on waking dragons all round also casts doubt on the supreme importance of Lightbringer this time round. Rhaeghar finds out that he has to be a warrior but from what we know, he was preoccupied with obtaining another child for his three-headed dragon. There is no mention of a sword. It’s a new Long Night. The current Night King and his crew might be more powerful than the previous one. Dealing with him might require additional measures in addition to the sword, hence the emphasis on dragons rather than swords. What do you think?

@theinvisiblewoman6783 Жыл бұрын

What I don’t understand is why Melisandre doesn’t already know “dragons waking from stone” has already come true. Dany birthed dragon from stone eggs.

@tony3483 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing, dare I say, magical. Fantastic readings, narration, and the art is spectacular. Brain exploding to many thoughts.. great work

@sweetsu3s 5 жыл бұрын

Could these visions be about Danny's final funeral pyre? It seems the symbolism is pointing to a final pyre for love. Maybe Jon's pyre. It would seem someone is going to become an actual dragon. Maybe Nisa Nisa was the first dragon....

@sweetsu3s 5 жыл бұрын

This is where I called the Dany Dragon theory!!

@Levacque Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting thought. It would truly be a sacrifice to kill your dragon to gain a magic sword in the face of the first Long Night. Like sure, it seemed to work, he seemed to get the sword he needed, but he would have had to give up a very valuable asset against the cold in order to do so.

@FixinTwo 5 жыл бұрын

Who is the 1 down vote? That's ridiculous. This was a fantastic video.

@peteroellermann74 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps Aerion saw a vision of major Kings landing events in ASOIAF: wildfire burning ships, then Joffrey drinking from his poisoned cup, then danaerys’s dragons flying over the city

@pangea439 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another video with such great content, I was waiting for it

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

Subtitles..........I'll see if I can turn those on. Thank you Adela :)

@diepie5144 3 жыл бұрын

Something that struck me about Dany’s dream was it’s similarities to Bran’s during his coma. The three eyed raven also urged him to be faster, and both dreams ended in flight. Something else is that the description of the “crystal emperor” reminds me of characters from genesis in the Bible, while descent can be traced from Adam to Abraham, older characters tend to live longer, with Noah living for over four hundred years. Another thing is that most Jewish Rabbis after that these characters most likely didn’t really live, and that the stories they tell should rather be taken as stories, with lessons being learned from each.

@pinkbunny6272 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved the way you set up the words , music and sounds! Amazing!

@JoeMagician 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@dpeoples81 4 жыл бұрын

In light of what we know now, could the Mad King have been seeing his daughter burn King's Landing and seeing himself reborn in the flames as Drogon?

@JoeMagician 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I may have not been thinking big enough

@43Habsfan 10 ай бұрын

I do love the idea of r'hllor on the other side of the flames from Melisandre being like, "it's fucking Jon, dumbass."

@brandonlambert9768 4 жыл бұрын

Varys didn't help Dany flee to Essos, wasn't that Sir William Derry?

@bastianzorf8071 3 жыл бұрын

great video and i really love the piano backround, pulls you into the mystery much

@branwykblackwood7882 5 жыл бұрын

This is magnificent work. I can't wait for the live stream. Ive watched this twice now. 😂👍

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

You're a brave soul, i couldn't listen to me talk that much haha

@branwykblackwood7882 5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeMagician c'mon your voice is calming and your words are brilliant.

@comradeconrad3636 2 жыл бұрын

Hope your having a good vacation comrade. Decided to dive into some old content tonight and catch up on some videos I missed.. your video the wild wolves is what brought me to your channel which is still my favorite theory but what I'm trying to say is this is just reminding me why I love your channel in the first place. Good catch on Aemon curiously leaving out one sibling, that is something that passed my notice. Cheers comrade. As always thank you. Can we bring this piano back?

@himynameisrev 5 жыл бұрын

Long time no see Joe! Welcome back, this was certainly thought provoking, I hope I’m not just wanting it to be true

@stephanieh.3884 5 жыл бұрын

Soooo good!!! Your best yet!

@marcospaulotome506 5 жыл бұрын

One of the best videos on the matter out there ! Congratulations man !

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

Right on Marcos :) More to come, not done yet. The livestream is going to be straight fire.

@roebuckmckinney 5 жыл бұрын

Wait. Wait wait wait. Drogo's pubes are "cream and gold"? That's suspiciously Valyrian.

@coltendavison4351 8 ай бұрын

Drogo is a secret Targaryen?

@coltendavison4351 8 ай бұрын

Would explain the half- dragon human baby still birth and King's blood

@kristiancarter5961 Жыл бұрын

Probably one of the best videos I've watched on this topic. I love all your videos but this one was really special

@JoeMagician Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@prestoncox585 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent work, my friends.

@alessandrorossi7135 4 жыл бұрын

Paranoiad about Tywin and afraid of swords... maybe he dreamed of a lion stabbing him?

@JoeMagician 4 жыл бұрын

A golden man with a sword killing him in his throne room.

@bronhaller 5 жыл бұрын

LOVE your Hallyne voice!

@yatisnow5683 4 жыл бұрын

Maegor Targaryen was NOT a bad king! He did what he had to do. If he didn’t do what he did the Targaryens would of been killed off! He gets such a bad wrap!

@arianewinter4266 4 жыл бұрын

Well, not compleatly undeserved. He is like the opposite of Dany, well in how he is percived, actualy they are quite similar . . .

@marthataylor3565 3 жыл бұрын

@@arianewinter4266 what about how he treated his wives?

@BlueBlonde267 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome info!!!! More , more, MORE!!!

@jessicaolson8749 5 жыл бұрын

Listening again. Best asoiaf video ever!

@neilbodwell9172 Жыл бұрын

Kind of a random place to say it but I am not entirely certain Aerion the "bright" prince was mad....I think he was just a product of his upbringing and that's why he acted the way he did. He grew up on an intellectual diet of "how awesome Targaryen's are" and so naturally if he got drunk enough drinking wildfire to become a dragon might sound like a reasonable idea. I've met people that come from families who have a better history of mental stability than the Targaryens who occasionally get nearly that stupid when drinking. I mean he was raised on that whole "Targaryen exceptionalism" stuff, and like we saw in ancient Rome of our world, sometimes folks just believed it a little too well. That whole "drinking the cool-aid" euphemism we have at least here in the United States. And with Aerion it sort of makes sense, just look at what happened after Ser Duncan the Tall decided to do the right thing and call him out on his bullshit. Everyone still got all pissed off about how he put hands to a Prince, nobody denied that it was totally the right thing to do, except Aerion, but still they did the whole trial of 7 thing instead of telling Aerion he was being a several forms of shitbag and letting the matter be. So that sounds more like a sense of entitlement rather than him being insane given that everyone knew what he was about. They knew he was being an ass but just let it slide.

@shirleyshine1285 5 жыл бұрын

Wow wow wow

@adithya5348 3 жыл бұрын

Who's here from Alt Shift X?

@JoeMagician 3 жыл бұрын

❤️ Hope you enjoy my video too!

@lesliegay9476 2 жыл бұрын

me too!!

@elvergalarga6016 3 жыл бұрын

I interpreted that as literal snow, like static in the fire but also because they’re so tired of the cold and surrounded by snow and ice

@Levacque Жыл бұрын

But "Snow" is capitalized. She's definitely referring to seeing Jon in the fire.

@sunshinesilverarrow5292 5 жыл бұрын

Such a good video, thank you both so much! Hugs & sunshine ☀️N

@whatsit101 5 жыл бұрын

great one!

@cedricthomas4867 3 жыл бұрын

U hit on a recurring theme “ that magic was going dormant in Westeros , Starting probably from whatever happened at the 14 flames , I don’t believe that pyromancers had dragon knowledge though , they would have capitalized... BUT THE magic ebbing & flowing in Westeros is integral to what is going on.

@wesleymons 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant work!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

@stevesmith3659 Жыл бұрын

Nice analysis. Kudos to you, JM.

@blackeyedlily 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent! I will put the livestream on my calendar and I need to listen again to your Aemon the Dreamer video.

@vivovicopico 5 жыл бұрын

You’re awesome Joe!

@ardaraith 5 жыл бұрын

What adorable intro music!

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

I was going for dramatic, but adorable works too

@ardaraith 5 жыл бұрын

Joe Magician It’s very whimsical and fairytale like. It goes well :)

@bryantaylor9874 3 жыл бұрын

When the story of Summerhall is revealed I think allot of hearts will be crushed when they find out Egg planned to sacrifice baby Rheagar. 35 year old Aegon the 5th is allot closer to Aerys the 2nd than Egg. Dunk saved the baby but in doing so likely triggered a chain reaction leading straight to the tragedy. That's my theory at least. Nobody likes it bc the worship Egg but I'm convinced that's what will happen.

@theinvisiblewoman6783 Жыл бұрын

I almost think the opposite. I think the Maesters sabotaged the dragons hatching and made sure the wildfyre got out of control. I think Egg was missing some key ingredients. Egg may have missed keeping the eggs warm long before attempting to hatch them. I think Egg missed the blood sacrifice and the corpse. I also think Dany being a woman was a contributing factor in it’s success. I don’t think wildfyre was needed at all.

@asmahk76 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video!

@conniesuper9892 5 жыл бұрын

Omg,this is great!!! Thanks, man!!🤗

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Connie :)

@careydanna4924 5 жыл бұрын

Great Great Content that is Deeeppp!!! Wow!!! Awesome!!! But clarification Question, how Will this play or will this play a part in the Prequel because of the History of GOT and season 8 because soo much we don't know as well?? *I know Season 8 is Very close and the Prequel will be very interesting, I might be getting ahead but a lot of info. *Wildfire, Dragonfire, Eggs, Mad King, & prophecies.

@lewiscruickshank2745 5 жыл бұрын

great video :)

@PabloAlvestegui 5 жыл бұрын

OK. I loved it!

@nicoledavis8055 5 жыл бұрын

Wow this is amazing

@mmmab1000 5 жыл бұрын

Great job

@LyricalXilence 4 жыл бұрын

Do you believe Targaryen madness is overblown or its legit? I don't count Maegor as a crazy one nor Aegon V; whats the difference between what he tried to do and what Dany did? She succeeded that all. Aerys was crazy as was whoever broke that poor girls fingers and later drank wild fire.

@arianewinter4266 4 жыл бұрын

I think it is legit, but not in the same way for everyone. Maegor was pretty fucked up, but he was Master of his destructive instincts utelising the so he was not insane, but clearly not of a healty mind either. Rhegar started fine and than went out of the window with Lyanna and the war. Dany starts fine, goes on to do illogical things and become murderous but for us seeing her good intentions and it mostly working out, ehe gets marked as not effected, what I hardly doubt. In my book, a lot of the acounted signs of mad and cruel Tagaryens actualy are based on misguided dragoninstinct, dragons just are not ment to live in a human society and I will never get why poeple thought they would make great kings . . . Incest and a quite probable geneticly inherited disposicion for some form of scizophrenia does not help there . . . Like at all.

@theinvisiblewoman6783 Жыл бұрын

I think it’s legit. But I think most get the why wrong. I think Maegor for example was crazy because Visenya conceived him with blood magic. Which led him to having his deformed children. I think many “mad” Targaryens were misguided by their dragon dreams . I think Aerys had plenty of reason to be paranoid watch all the major houses plot against him with marriages tying other major families together and he fell into schizophrenia from his trauma. Maybe it’s tin foil but I think all of the Targaryens don’t have much choice besides marrying other magical bloodlines or keeping breeding in blood of old Valyria or they will have strange dragon hybrid children because old Valyria used blood magic to bond them to the dragons by making dragon riding families actually have dragon DNA. I think Dany was successful in hatching dragons because they needed Targaryen women to be around the eggs to do so. I can back it up forever with who they successfully have children with.

@bakewithela8327 5 жыл бұрын

Good stuff.

@thedragonsdaughter7102 5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@tomswiftyphilo2504 Жыл бұрын

very nice!

@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 3 жыл бұрын

This vid is why i stan joe the magician!!

@vanessaamesty6739 5 жыл бұрын

This is good and makes sense, is a being is sending the dream? like a warning?

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

Vanessa Amesty We know this is the case for Bran and Dany so it's likely the case for some if not all of the other dreamers.

@cedricthomas4867 3 жыл бұрын

So do we know if heat was needed to hatch the eggs or is that just when they are old , how long do they last ?

@ygknight1478 5 жыл бұрын

Good video

@dakotamatthews8952 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@TheBigToe69 5 ай бұрын

The dream that Egg has as King of a dragon being born at Summerhal is either Rhaegar or Jon Snow. Just like his brothers before him, the dream wasn’t a literal dragon but a person with the capability to rule and rule well.

@joshgrimm9721 2 жыл бұрын

Good video good theory.

@johnnywalker1333 Жыл бұрын

I Love Your Videos

@krakentacos 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, Matt Is there any evidence that Ned might have opened a 3rd eye while he was in the dark dungeon?

@JoeMagician 5 жыл бұрын

Gratzie. None I can think of off hand. He did have a few fever dreams...? The TOJ ones come in that time.

@krakentacos 5 жыл бұрын

It’s curious that all the Stark kids have some kind of connection to this power but not Ned or his brothers. Maybe we will learn more about Ned’s dream in TWOW

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeMagician It would certainly be a surprise if Ned's dreams referred much more to some other event (in the past or the future) than to what he actually encountered at the TOJ. Would be interesting tinfoil

@siRrk1337 5 жыл бұрын

this shit is fucking calming, nice choice of music.

@BrumbleBush 4 жыл бұрын

You rock! 🤘🏻

@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 3 жыл бұрын

That pyromancer voice now haunts my nightmarea

@heliopolitan444 5 жыл бұрын

Omg this is some juicy content! 👏🔥🆎🔥🆎 Keep it up!!

@postpunk6947 Жыл бұрын

I think pregnant Targaryen's woman is the key to the hatching dragons.

@ClintSprayberry 5 жыл бұрын

Joe!!!!!! Hurray a new video!

@spencerharrisondescales519 Жыл бұрын

Adressing Khal Drogo not being an actual King. In the first book when the Dothraki blood ritual witnessed Daenerys consume the stallion's heart before Drogo, the Dosh Khaleen and other assembled Dothraki, the language spoken contradicts this. When the signs are interpreted by the Dosh Khaleen favourably and Daenerys is making admirable progress with the heart, they begin to lead the other Dothraki in chanting "a prince (Khalakka) rides". From this we can deduce that the literal translation of "Khal" in Dothraki into Westerosi is "King". If Drogo and Daenerys were perceived as anything other than King and Queen of the Dothraki, how could their progeny be a Prince? Furthermore, Drogo himself denigrates Viserys as the "Khal Raggat" (Cart King) and the "Khal Rhae Mhar" (Sore Foot King), so the linguistic correlation of Khal and King is not a without compelling historical precedent in the writings of G.R.R.M. Therefore, Khal Drogo ought absolutely to be considered as a King, even in the Westerosi reckoning of the concept of Kingship. Thus, the vision of a dead King atop a pyre surrounded by dragons eggs is soundly comprehended.

@fakearya9158 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, as usual! I wrote a similar essay a few months ago, which was influenced by your Whisper Jewels video. I have one more female character that ties into this idea. The magical recipe is real!! I think Egg was successful, I just don't think he got to see the dragon eggs hatch like he hoped. The eggs were made fertile and I think Summerhall reawoke magic into the world. So he was successful, just not in the way he was hoping. But I do not believe Dany's dragons would have hatched without Summerhall.

@branthebeardedbuilder6813 5 жыл бұрын

You mean melisandre recipe? A king and his son Must did? In that order

@fakearya9158 5 жыл бұрын

@@branthebeardedbuilder6813 lol no not that recipe. There's basically a whole cookbook.

@alanpennie8013 5 жыл бұрын

Fake Arya Good catch. I agree.

@TheTam0613 4 жыл бұрын

Egg never had Dany's three eggs?

@scottofgreywaterwatch1298 5 жыл бұрын

2nd and stoked!

@warrior316 5 жыл бұрын

Another kick ass video

@idontuploadanym0re 2 жыл бұрын

SPOILERS FOR CRITICAL ROLE CAMPAIGN 3 this wonderful video is making me think of the storyline of Laura Bailey’s character from the third campaign of the D&D webshow Critical Role. the character in question, Imogen, has been having recurring dreams of a red storm of ill-omen. while the player characters have been grasping at straws, the online fandom has theories that the dreams stem back to Ruidus, a red moon of ill-omen. Ruidus is likely the remnant of a long-forgotten plot of Critical Role’s betrayer gods (the evil-aligned deities of the story). whatever’s happening with Imogen likely is related to this. she was not alone in her dreams. in fact, there are existing academic studies in-universe which speak of the red storm dreams as a widespread occurrence. one of the people involved in those studies was her mother, who has been absent Imogen’s entire life. i’ll admit, these comparisons are mostly just my nerd-brain making connections between two stories i love. but i think Matthew Mercer (the dungeon master for Critical Role) and GRRM are on the same wavelength regarding collective prophetic dreams. EDIT: for a bit more context, Imogen is a sorcerer with the aberrant mind subclass!

@idontuploadanym0re 2 жыл бұрын

Critical Role is no stranger to ASOIAF-esque stories. look no further than campaign 1, in which a necromancer lady and her vampiric lord husband take out a royal family Red Wedding style. they then take over the city the family once ruled (a la the Boltons) and stay in power until the last remaining son of the family Percival, returns and reinstates his family’s rule. his sister Cassandra was also there the whole time under the thumb of the usurpers. i think you can see where i’m going with this (Percival=Jon, Cassandra=Jeyne Pool, usurpers=Boltons).

@AlgrenTheBlue Жыл бұрын

You said Maegor was the worst, but I would honestly say Aegon the Unworthy did a lot more bad for the entire realm than Maegor did overall. Arguably Maegor is the only reason we had King Jaehaerys I, instead of his brother Aegon the Uncrowned, who was in my opinion and understand really similar to Aenys