Nice to see an honest review. Thanks. I'm a Kubota BX23S owner, but I don't have a bias one way or the other. My choice came down to the dealer and which one treated me the best. Kubota won. Dealer location wasn't an issue since the Deere and Kubota dealers are across the street from each other. I thought the lack of position control would be a big negative when selecting the BX. After some thought I realized that the vast majority of 3 point work on a subcompact the hitch is either fully up or down. Then came the problem with the hitch not floating back down due to terrain changes. By opening up the flow valve and riding the lever to compensate for the terrain, the implement stays engaged. Sounds like a lot to do, but it quickly becomes second nature. There are so many excellent tractor brands available it's hard to go wrong. The one thing that I see way too often is people chasing specs. To those that say "My tractor can lift more than yours", yet will never come anywhere close to pushing the tractor to it's limits, what's the point? Buy the tractor that fits your needs, is within your budget, and if you can find a dealer that is honest and treats you well...you are in good shape.

I spent four hours on my tractor volunteering at my kid's school yesterday. I whistled and hummed your tune nearly the whole time. Awesome.

I bought a tractor a little over a year ago. I had intended to buy a John Deere, hadn’t even thought about Kubota. While our house was being built I asked all the machinery operators their opinions. They all told me either a Kubota or a Deere but they cautioned me the Deere dealer wasn’t good. I started calling the parts departments to find out availability of common “breakage” parts. In almost every case one dealer had the parts in stock, the other could have it in in a week or so. The end result, based on dealer support, was I bought a Kubota L4701. It’s been a good machine, and when I snapped a brush hog blade I had a new set later that day. So... evaluate your dealers!

Finally, a review that is not an advertisement and honest facts. Thank you.

Even though I’m above the sub compact tractor market, I think this is a really great review of both machines. It is full of useful information from someone other then a dealer. I think it will definitely help someone in the market for a machine. Well done Tim.

This is going to be a very useful series. Thanks for taking the time to make this.

I own a 2018 Kubota BX 23S and do use the 3 point a lot. I believe a 23S is the same as a 2680 except it comes with factory installed loader and backhoe. If you look closely there are two stops for the 3 point lift that can be adjusted by reaching under the fender. They can be used to stop up or down, also can be used to hold lift lever in down position to float in the down position. Great for using tiller, blade, etc. At least, that's how my BX 23S works. Best video I've seen on these two machines. Good job.

Glad to see someone comparing two tractors of the same year. Usually when you see Kubota and John Deere comparisons they are not comparing the same model year. Making one look far better than the other. Keep up the good work!

As the owner of multiple Kubota units from BX series all the way through L series and even the MX series each individual tractor has its certain uses . until buying my first John Deere last year we have now found that the largest and most notable difference between kubota and John deer is the #1 weight john deer, HEAVIER #2 hydraulic system capability stronger as shown at the END of the video, personally I find myself usually running for a John deer FIRST but if the ground is WET well then, go grab the kubota because I can usually get into the job SITE and out of the job SITE with very little problems, just my personal experience, love them both, GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO CAN'T WAIT FOR THE REST

I’ve owned John Deere’s for 35 years and love my dealer. But I bought a Kubota BX this month after spending months doing research. My three critical points are dealer, price and equipment. And it killed me to switch dealers, but price and equipment won out. Both will get the job done and you can’t go wrong with either.

Great job Tim! In 2006 I bought a Deere 2305 and it is setup like the Kubota, stabilizers on the inside and no (set spots) on the lift arms controls. Kubota, Cub Cadet, New Holland and Deere were all the same price. No Regrets on buying the Deere it has done me well. I would like to upgrade to the 1 series but the price keeps me from doing so and there is nothing wrong with the 2305. Thanks for the videos!

You are correct on the 3 point analysis. I do rest my hand on the lever on my GC2300 keeping it just over center in the lowered position while tilling. And Kubota would do well to add an inch or two of arm length. My equipment doesn't fit well on a BX because of pto length and I also drag my feet on shortening shafts to fit someone else's tractor.

The three point hitch lower arms, on the Kubota , can be moved outward, to remove the quick hitch, by removing one of the pins at the end of the lower arms. The mower deck should be locked in the up position when using the three point hitch. I don't think you can go wrong with either tractor. I always look forward to your videos .

Nice job Tim. The only thing I saw that you did wrong there was not using the 'top' position on the kubota mower deck. It'll have double the clearance of the Deere mower, so generally you can do more things without taking it off. ... Have fun with your plastic, aluminum, yanmar tractor 😀

Being a new 1025r owner, this series has been a wealth of information on the fine details of my tractor and how to use and adjust things. Great! “The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out.” Ps 18:15

I love the way you were honest about each tractor and then adding your opinion lastly. Thank you for the honest review. Looking forward to more.

I feel one important issue you missed is that on the Kubota the mmm will lock out in the top position so as not to raise and lower every time you move the 3point hitch. Keeps in up out of the way. Very good review. Thanks Tim.

Great review! I love the objectivity of the videos. It is easy yo see bias where they are trying to sell you something. I grew up on JD 820 and 830 and Ford 8N. I owned a JD 4620 (135 hp) and 4850, with 10,000 hrs it still would dyno 216 peak and 196 continuous. Great tractors. I have retired and now own a Kubota B 3350 and Grand L5740. Both cab tractors. I love the hi low range lever on the column of the 5740. I use it every time I get in the tractor.

I grew up pulling a 6ft disk and a two-row planter on my grandfather's 40 horse JD 2040. We ran it until a fire destroyed the electrical system on the tractor and we parked it... Sadness... great review!

I've seen all I needed to know by watching all your previous videos. Watching what you've been able to accomplish with Johnnie is what convinced me to pull the trigger 2 months ago and get a 1025 of my own. Very happy with the decision. I enjoy watching and learning from all your adventures. Keep up the good work.

Great series! I'm in the market and I can't tell you how helpful this has been. Thanks so much for all the time and work you both gave to it.

I REALLY enjoyed your unbiased compariason. So refreshing!! Thank you Tim!

Shopped for 6 months and did my research, ended up with the B2650. I think I was bias, so damn sick of JD's pricing and proprietary games. My machines get used and maintained, dont have the time to be messing around with service shops mostly JD. Aside from the single piece drive pedal, Im happy with my B2650.

I think it’s hilarious you kept the mower deck on and cited the reason as “it’s a pain to remove”. It’s the exact reason why I opted for the Deere as it was huge for me. Great vid!

Good job Tim. Look forward to the next! I guess we know who wins the loader capacity comparison.

When I started looking for a compact tractor, I started with the BX. I ended up getting a B2650, and here's why: loader lift capacity, overall weight, 3-point hitch features, and ground clearance. The weight and loader capacity are obviously larger for the larger tractor. I understand the B2650 compares more closely to the Deere 3000 series. But I didn't like the BX not having position control on the 3-point hitch. My B2650 has position control, extendable links, and "telescoping flat bar style" stabilizers (on the inside), all of which works very well. (Maybe the BX now has optional "telescoping flat bar style" stabilizers?? That would be a great improvement.) The telescoping flat bar stabilizers have holes that you put a pin through to lock it at a certain length. They are easy to pull the pin and change the length. And there are enough holes to give a variety of usable lengths, including float positions.

Just straight shooting, honest information, no b.s. Great job and looking forward to more. Thanks Tim.

Tried to see if anyone commented on using the tiller with the mower Deck still Attached on the Kubota, you pick up the mower Deck, and turn the height adjustment dial to the Top position, then the Deck will stay in the Top position, while adjusting the tiller height. Love your dedication to making these videos.

I'm a Kubota guy, but I thought it was a very good review. I would be interested in knowing more about the Center of Gravity in relation to the rear tires; i.e., I would be interested in which is less likely to tip over an a grade. (It would be a math excerise, not a demonstration!). If they both had mid mount mowers attached that would ever be better! Thanks again and keep it up!

A non dealer comparison with real world examples?! Yes!

I'm in the market for a compact tractor and like most everyone else my choice has come down to these two machines, so thank you for your review since it is very helpful. However, I'm not sure why you make light of the other reviewers, since a metal hood versus a plastic one makes a big difference to me, especially when it comes to quality and longevity, and I'm glad that information was given to me by another reviewer. There was also no need to call him bias, since of course he was, just like you clearly are. Saying you are not bias does not mean you are not bias. You can cut the bias in your videos with a knife. But I do thank you again for your very knowledgeable information.

I have a 1023 sub-compact with a rototiller and i find if you move the centre turnbuckle in so the tiller is angled toward the tractor, it digs in as far as the three point will allow it ...10 inches plus.

Tim, I’ve been following you since quite some time, your way of explaining things inspired me to buy my Johnny, also a 1025R. I’m not a brand jockey, but my JD shop is right around the corner, whereas a presence of Kubota shops takes me to much time to reach, hence I’ve got me a Johnny. Keep them review videos coming, you and your family are doing a marvelous job! On a side note, how about a review of an offset ditch mower! I’m in the market, but haven’t seen much in the InteeWeb about it, especially since I need to install a 3rd function for it. Yours truly, Volker

And this is why I love TTWT.

Sorry if someone already mentioned it, but the knob right below the seat on the BX will keep the mower deck from lowering with the 3pt hitch. Turn it to the TOP marking and it will lock the mower deck all the way up. Even if you have the deck removed, it should be set to TOP position when using 3PT attachments. Fun to see you using my tractor (I have BX23S).

what we always do (granted I'm referring to a pair of 55 horse Mahindras) is we put the implement on first, raise it just off of the ground, then center it and adjust the sway bars, we always make sure to put the end of the arms to the inside of the pins as it gives us more lift height.

Tim the reason why the tiller was lifting in the back was because you had the mower deck on. To solve that problem, Lift the mower deck all the way up, then set the mower height adjustment to top. this actually lets the three point hitch fall all by itself, Because the mower will stay at the top level were is will not interfere. Hope i explained that good. There also is an adjustment to limit the three point hitch, i will have to look that up when i have more time. Thanks for the video.

I am pretty stingy with likes on youtube. You sir, have earned one from me today. Keep up the good work and I cant wait to watch this series. I own a 1025r mostly because I got it for a good price. Most videos I have watched, no matter how honest they say they are going to be, usually is pretty biased. You did a great job being up front with details in this first video of the series.

After owning a Kubota 2660 for nine years, I wish I would have gone with the Deere. The plastic side covers never fit well and the vibration cracked the keepers on the top front side. Break the head light and you buy both which are hooked together with a plastic bridge. Love your show...

Hey Tim and Christy, I just bought a 2018 1025r. Thanks for all your content, it certainly helped my decision. That said, I was a bit biased from the onset, since I worked on John Deere equipment for years at a golf course. I love my tractor, and her capability continues to impress me. God bless!

I've been running a bx2370 for 6 years now mostly for snow removal with blower and broom. It's a great tractor, but the front quick hitch is sub par to the Deere and so are the attachments. I would choose the JD over the Kubota next time around.

Thanks. I learned quite a bit by watching. I’ve got a BX, but I truly appreciate the objective comparisons. I’m really looking forward to what other contrasts you discover in the next episodes in this series!

Round #1 was exactly what I was hoping for - a fair comparison of important things between the 2 tractors. The 3 point hitch weight comparison was very interesting and answers a question that I was wondering about my own BX2680, so thank you. Can't wait for the next round!

As with the tractors themselves, everyone has a different agenda and different approaches of doing things. So I'm not a big review person, but I do like seeing how different engineers think about the same task. As always great work guys.....

Owned a JD 1025R, was a decent tractor, wasn’t real impressed with quality. Just sold a Kubota B2601 and that was a good tractor. I’m on to a Kioti NX5510. So far so good

Tim, even though I bought the 1025r, went in to buying a tractor with an open mind. I had a Cub Cadet 5234d before it and loved it. Got a great deal used. But the decision was down to these 2 and the thing that made my decision was I know someone who works at the dealer HQ. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Again I feel like I got a great deal on a new tractor. Thanks and keep it up.

There is a knob at the base of the seat that controls how fast the mower deck/3 point lift arms go down. For the tilling test you may need to open the valve/knob so it can float faster. I have run into this while grading out potholes with a rear blade. Great video!

Hello Mr. Tim . Nice video over the tractors . I am a farmer in north west Germany 8km from Emden. We ride 6 john deere from 42 to 170 hp . The tractors are from 1972 to 2008 . John Deere is a great global Player .but the engeneers from john deere learn never .that growing point from the top link on the tractor must a few inches more nearly to the axle !!! And the growing point must a few inches higher .. In germany we ride since the tractors came on the farms .the most machines in 3point hitch . On the old fendt .old deutz .old international tractors is it no problem to adjust the machines in the 3point hitch . On our john 2040 from 1986 with sg 2 was is often a catastrophe to adjust the machines in the 3point hitch . The lift high was often too low . Nice greatings from North West Germany from Bert !!!

wow...and that surprise ending. hopefully that will make it into subsequent episodes of this comparison. Thanks for doing this!

It looks like you may have fairly close to the same tire treads. Is the BX fluid filled? I would be curious to see some traction tests performed.

Well done tim by far the best test i ve seen on you tube.carry on that way .have a nice week .

For me, I'm a Kubota guy (BX2200 since 2003) but agree this JD looks great and I think the single large cylinder on the front end loader of the BX could use a little more grunt (saw that little dig at the end...lol but it's true for sure). All in all, whichever you prefer, just take great care of your tractor and keep it well serviced and you will get many great years of solid use out of your equipment!

for being comparable tractors, the kobota looks like a toy next to the 120R. Good review Tim. Keep up the good work!

i have a bx and i would buy one again i personally like it better than the deere but its not like im going to not like someone because they have a deere And a funny thing to note on my tiller the dealer flipped the pins to point inwards so you don't need to loosen the 3 point

1)Weight of each tractor - ( maybe how much ballast you can put in each and what maximum effective weight can be reached) 2)Power lost at pto - (maybe how fast can each tractor complete a task under load) 3) consistency in power under load - (for example if you were to till in soft dirt then hit sod or top soil, how do the tractors handle or react, or mowing grass/ brush hogging going from short/ thin to long/ thick do the tractors bog out and slow down etc.) Thank you for any consideration

Thanks for the video, I have been trying to research these too myself but also have found very one sided arguments. I have found your views very helpful. One question I have is seat operation room, I am almost 7 foot tall so control postion and spacing for my legs and body is crucial, along with placment of controls for ease of operation. Thank you again and have a great day.

I really wish folks would stop comparing the Kubota BX to a John Deere 1025R. Go get a Kubota B2620 and compare. Kubota B2320 owner

Tim, you missed something VERY important. The Deere 1025r 3 point arms are Reversible. They provide different geometry depending on how you mount them. One way gives you higher lift. Please reverse them and show the viewers how it changes things... for better or worse. Thanks for the work you do,

My father has a 10 year old bx2660 and I just bought the 2018or 2019 Deere... I love my Deere in comparison.... I know the kabota is older but when I hopped on the Deere there was no comparison... I put 3/4 of the hours on my dads tractor so I knew it pretty well. But both great rigs!

Hi Tim . Very good video. I looked at a lot of tractors before I bought mine. Ended up between 4 brands John Deere, Kubota, kioti and Massey Ferguson. The John Deere and Massey Ferguson turned out to be the best for my needs. The Massey Ferguson was $6,ooo less in price. The only thing wrong was I wish I had bought a bigger one! Both good tractors.

The thing is if john deere did the test they would point out all the good things of the jd and the bad things of the kubota it would be the same if kubota did the test si its great that you are doing it

lock the mower deck up with the mower height control. that should help keep it out of the way on the kubota

One of the most objective reviews I've ever seen on You Tube. Great job Tim.

The end of the video doesn't surprise me at all... The curling power on the Deere is just superb for it's size. My brother has a BX25, and he and I can both tell that the Deere has better hydraulics on the loader when it comes to lifting stuff. However, the actual lifting cylinders struggled on both tractors to lift that load, but did you see how Tim was able to come in at a different angle and a slightly higher height to take advantage of the stronger curling function on the Deere? Well done video Tim, can't wait for more!

Vary good video Tim. Look forward to the rest of these. I definitely have to agree that it’s vary fusterating to find a good comparison video between them.

Hey Tim. I’m sure it’s in your plans, but you should also mention price of the two units. Just another thing to compare. Have a great day.

In the hill country here in central Texas a wider wheel base really helps out on the slopes and hills. I run a Yanmar 424 and it really has performed good for what I have used it for.

Thank you so much for doing this. I have been researching compact tractors for about 5 months with the intention to buy spring 2020. You hit the nail on the head with most reviews being so biased and focused on silly things. You are probably planning to look at these items but I would love to see comparisons on cockpit controls and usability. Also scheduled maintenance and how easy or hard it is on each to preform service. Thanks again for the effort you are putting into this.

I want know the engine noise levels. The JD rattles to much at idle as the KB just purs.

Tim, for the hydraulic PSI test the BX is rated to be at max pressure of 2000psi. Ive heard from factory its set between 1925 & 1950. When people use shims they usually raise it to 1975 to 1985psi range and see a noticeable difference.

I have a BX2660 purchased new and now with about 1400 hrs and have noticed the same problem you experienced on the tiller. I find myself holding the three point lever down until I get the depth I desire. I tie the mower deck up with a cargo strap because the mower deck is a REAL PAIN to take off. The same function that allowed you to lift more on the kubota 3pt is the same thing that prevented you from lifting the pallet of racking. the "moment" on the kubota 3pt is shorter but longer on the kubota loader. The "moment" on the jd 3pt is longer but the loader is shorter. The 243 loader on my BX can make a big difference by the tilt of the bucket and can lift my back tires off the ground if not careful.

Thanks for putting in the work! We appreciate you bud, keep up the great videos!

Thanks for the review Tim. I happen to own the BX23S but I would be equally happy with a 1025R. I agree with your assessment. The 3 point height adjustment would be a nice feature and I wish I had had it when I was using my box blade on the driveway. I have since paved my driveway so its not much of an issue anymore. I would also love the JD drive over deck. While my Kubota deck is not that hard to take on and off I only do it when I have to. I chose the Kubota because my neighbor has one and I was able to watch him and ask lots of questions. I have both a John Deere dealer and a Kubota dealer about equal distances apart, both being less than 10 miles away. My John Deere dealer is fine but I enjoy working with the guys at the Kubota dealer more. I always enjoy watching your videos and seeing the differences between the various tractors you own and use. Thanks for the honest review. Its refreshing.

The only reason somone would love a mahindra is that it's new cheap or they haven't had a tractor before.

I’ve been back and forth between these two companies. You’re insight is really appreciated! Thanks and well done!

Finally a good comparison! Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Much appreciated!

Another great video Tim. I’ve actually thought about this a lot because I’m starting to have a lot of issues with my 2038r. The main issues I’m having is as follows, the stand of the loader has been replaced twice the bolts keep breaking it keeps bending. The mid mount mower setting is going haywire now. The front loader loses pressure whenever you have a load on it and you can almost watch it settling to the ground. My Backhoe You Must keep raising the Boom or the backhoe just bounces all over the place. And I am told by my dealer all this is normal just keep the pin in to keep it locked. So the only other tractor around me is orange. But service is the key and I am not getting it from my dealer.

8:15 - buy a $2 spring pin to replace one cottered-pin, and they you have no turnbuckle issue on the K'.

I’ve had my 1025r for 3 years and have always had green tractors. Not out of brand loyalty, just liked what they bring to the table. I tested a bx on my property before I bought the 1 series. The BX is an excellent machine, the JD just suited me better. Anyone who knocks Kubota doesn’t know what they’re talking about and vice versa. Without considering cost (obvious big deal) they are the best machines out there

This was an awesome review, very well done Tim! I could not be happier with our John Deere 1025r, it's used frequently for many challenging tasks and I never have any issues whatsoever. Removing the mower deck and reinstalling it is a regular task and I have not experienced any complications with alignment. Our neighbor down the road has a Kubota series that is the larger version and it works great as well. For our property and our needs we love our 1025R! Our terrain is very uneven and rough with many steep slopes. Negotiating the slopes is a must while mowing our pasture but I have never felt at risk of tipping in the steep areas. Epic tractor!

I do like your tests and great views of both tractors. Great view and information 👍

One of the main reasons I own a Deere. My broken up body trying to mount mid-mower. Just the first reason.

My old neighbor was a WWII vet, fought Japan in the Pacific and disliked. Was a straight John Deere man. But, after he bought a new HD cab tractor, when he died, he had a Kubota. This fella had 1000 cows, garden, baled hay... The JD was in the shop a lot. Kubota never went back to the shop. We farm and run six tractors. I'm giving a bona fide opinion here. Had a new JD skid steer, burnt to the ground, track machine. New Kubota still going strong. Had the Kubota way longer than JD. I'm not much on these little flower bed tractors with their plastic hoods. Is that John Deere a yanmar? Head crack problem. I'm a field mechanic that drives the tool truck with the crane on it.

Next best thing to me actually test driving both!!! Great video and cant wait for the rest.

I'm interested in your thoughts on kubotas treadle pedal vs Deeres hydro pedals

Early 2000’s New Holland TC18 (and I am sure other models) have the positioning lever for the three point.

Thanks for the clear review. I live south of Indy now, but have lived in Lebanon in the past.

Both are good tractors, both colors will break at one point. The main thing is to find a good dealership you can work with that has a great and friendly service dept that will take care of you.

It all comes down to cost and how close your dealer is.

Excellent video as always Tim, I have a 1025r, but like all tractors as well. To me the most important aspect of owning a tractor, that is a sizable investment, is the longevity of the tractor & the dealership as it relates to service & repair. Pretty much any subcompact tractor will do the task of the average homeowner but down the road will the tractor continue to perform well, and can I count on the dealership to back me up😊

Before I purchased my first tractor, I was sure I was going to buy a John Deere. I went to John Deere with intent to purchase. New Holland was a few miles up the road so after looking at the Deere I decided just to be sure I’d look at the New Holland. Disappointed with the New Holland I was even more sure about the Deere. Actually went there on the way back and filled out the credit app. Kubota was on the other side of town and I really didn’t want to go there but as thorough as I am with anything I purchase I decided to go just to look around. After I saw the Kubota B26 TLB I was very impressed. I knew right there that I wanted that tractor. I called the sales guy from John Deere as said I’m going for the B26 and told him to talk me out of it. He said John Deere has nothing like the Kubota B26. It’s been a year since and I’ve never once had buyers remorse or any regret with my purchase. That’s my story. I am a homeowner and purchased it for my personal home use.

great video, you pointed out a con that is present in most sub compact tractors, that is a lack of position control, just about the only con I have with my 2009 Massey Ferguson GC2400, I sure it was a oversight but I see this routinely on videos posted by lot of folks that is improperly adjusted tilt angles on tillers, correct angle should be level to tilted forward at center of tine shaft to ground this enables tiller to perform as designed.

Don't buy a RK55 been waiting 4 MONTHS on a seal and oil return tube

Unscripted, unbiased, play it by ear review about practical details you wish you knew before you bought the tractor but don’t understand and know about until you put the thing to use

Not all implements attach outside the tool, some attach inside, which is why many have attachments both inside and outside the tool. Your Deere advantage is not an advantage at all, it's just a difference and it's a handicap sometimes, just as the Kubota is sometimes. My Case-Ih has the outside limiting equipment, it's a bear and a half under some circumstances. I can't be the only one who notices that.

I researched for 6 months and watched hours of KZfaq videos of JD 1 vs Kubota BX before I came to a decision (and bought a BX). Your video highlights multiple things that the others do not. I hate the inside turnbuckles on the BX! Outside would be much better. Also, besides tilling, ive found the lack of position control to be annoying on grading driveways with my box blade. - KLW; Battle Ground, Indiana

I have a Kubota diesel and it's got six hundred hours on it and it dropped a valve in the engine & Kubota won't make it good

That made up my mind on a tractor I'm going with a deere

To keep the mower from dropping when you drop the 3 point, u have to have the mower height adjuster in the top lock position...

On my kubota 3pt, I placed spring bar retaining clips in the clevis (shackle) connecting the turnbuckles to the lower arms. So when I want to change attachments I can pull the pins to quickly spread the lower arms.