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@@josephrideau7561 I call him the best PURE point guard - but that's semantics.

He is the blueprint for what you want in a PG. Magic has nothing on this man Stockton. His Assist to TO ratio was 3.72 and that’s good for second all time, all time leader steals and assist, never was unhealthy, always played hard and focused. Shot 53% from the field for a span of 5 years. Thought pass first, score second and still could chip in a serviceable 16 per game while handing out 13 assists which basically means that he was responsible for nearly half of the jazz offense output. Ran his offense like a genius and that’s why the jazz were so dominant when he played. And he just walked off into the sun set just as quietly as he came in. Magic was great but he was unhealthy, got HIV from some whore cheating on his wife, while stockton was a family man who kept his head down. Magic was an enormous 6”9 and stockton was barely 6”0. Magic won titles yes but that was before th “Jordan rules” were enacted, and the jazz had to face that perennially. I love magic but we’re talking about who embodies the PG position, and stockton just did it better.

@jeste4187 - couldn’t have said it better! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

I have ranked as the 44th best PG of all time. I don't go by stats, of course.

He most certainly did. And never tried to stack the deck like modern players such as Kawhi or LeBron James. Respect to da Stock man. From a Lakers fan.

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HOF, top PG of all time, ring or not. I'd say still a pretty darn good career.

@@pius222 Facts, my man, facts! 🍻

@@pius222 Magic is my #1 (Period!) but if John Stockton is my PG, how could I NOT be happy? Clearly one of the best all time.

Wilt is also the one that said Stockton was the most complete player at his position.

He could have also cited George Mikan.

Exactly!!!

You say that about a lot of players. There is the Charles Barkley Rule, does that make him a GOAT? They changed some rules because of James Harden. It’s not always about nerfing a player, it’s usually about seeing how they are exposing an issue with the game and if it becomes too widespread it could ruin the game.

@@fieryjalapenos4442 Hardin didn't force any rule changes I am aware of. He DID force ENFORCEMENT of the "Reggie Miller" rule at one point, which the refs had been slacking off on and MESSING UP on for a year or two.

I agree 100%

One of the best PLAYERS, not just guards.

@@lemongavine No doubt Dave! Nice catch. ( ;;

He’s my favourite point guard of all time. I think he’s underrated.

@@mattcorcoran7082 Without a doubt Matt. Just look at his numbers to see just how much he is underrated. He and Jeff Hornesac ( check spelling) even Spellcheck doesn't know who he is were something to behold. ( ;; Dare I say they weren't dark enough? ( ;; You and I know tho eh? What else could it be? Ask Karl Malone how good they were. ( ;; Keep spitting the truth Matt!

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John was "Mr. Fundamental" before Tim was a High School player.

Would he is top 50 of all time. So when you say not enough credit dont know what you mean

John Stockton is a real humble person and a great all around team player but what makes John Stockton a successful basketball player is that upheld his position all the more full of humbleness by obviously being himself and doing the best he could this what a great humbled honest athleticism is all about as a personal opinion but at the end of the day John Stockton is one of the top 50 players what a great blessing and accomplishment

​@@cesartrujillo8813Hes still not seen by most as the best PG ever, even though in terms of all around skills, Stockton probably is the best ever at the point. Love Magic, and he was and still is a freak of nature, but he wasnt a better passer than John Stockton, and while Stockton wasnt a tall guy or bigger than a flea out on the court, he was EXCEPTIONAL on defense for his size. Im not even a Jazz or Stockton guy, but if im creating a five man squad from anyone whos ever played, im taking John as my PG. Id have plenty of scoring from others, and in terms of pure distribution of the basketball and his crazy ability to steal the ball on defense, Stockton would be PERFECT as my floor general.

That's crazy bc I didn't know he wasn't bully balling in the paint

If you’re referring to Wilt, he usually used finesse moves around the basket. He said he did this so that he wouldn’t hurt the other players he was competing against.

@@John-14-6 Wilt has said a few times that he "wanted to play the game the right way". He's also cited Bird for that type of play (and VERY few others).

@@LEllis-ui3lx He didn't. He was that strong he could had bullied anyone on any era but he played 'normal' from fear he would injure somebody.

The thing that no one ever discusses about Wilt is the fact that he was so unselfish. The guy could have averaged 50 + a game for his entire career...but he adapted to what his team needed. The years he averaged 50, he was on a Sixers team that needed him to score and rebound...when he got to L.A. they had Baylor and West, they needed Defense and rebounding, so he didn't need to score as much and became one of the best defensive big men in the league...and no one ever talks about what an EXCELLENT passer he was for a big man. To me, he's the greatest ever because if he had wanted to be selfish, he could have put the all time scoring record out of reach....as evidenced by the fact that no one else has scored 100 since he did !

That's what I love about John Stockton, he was never mean or petty. But, that man could ball!

@@AbbaZabbaOlyFrn Depends what you mean by mean but Stockton was no punk on the floor and defo gave more than he received

I'm pretty sure they spelled "The Mailman's" first name with a "K", not a "C". Sorry to point that out. 😊

Hey idiot it’s Karl Malone not Carl.

Every one should though

Good call.He is on the Mt.Rushmore of SF.Counting A.B.A. Erving's in,if not Durant.But LeBron,Bird,& Baylor without a doubt.

@@johnsalchak3498 People forget about Rick Barry.

Rick Barry #5 no doubt.HIS first ten years,he averaged 27.9pt/7.7reb/4.6asst/2.5asst.Then Kawhi,Pippen,&Wilkens.Nest three,Dantley,English,&King.Then there is Worthy & Hawkins.Connie probably had the greatest first year ever in the A.B.A.,scoring title,regular & playoff M.V.P.And the Pipers won the champoinship.Wow!

He gets forgotten because he never won a ring

That is a classic comment from James Worthy

thats dumb. Jordan makes you look like a cpa or a garbage man.

lol got to respect that & james worthy still notice how no one talks about malone or stockton because neither was really that good.

Larry Bird would disagree

I think it depends on how vain you were about your own defensive play. Larry's psychological tactics were subtle (about catching you off your guard, working out your blind spots.) Mike's psychological tactics were, "Can you handle my full-throttle onslaught without bursting into tears?"

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No one wants a 7'1" guy who can rebound, score, is exceptionally fast, and has a massive vertical leap. I mean.... there is no chance someone with a vertical leap comparable only to Jordan would be able to play in today's NBA. I mean who would even need a seven foot tall player to run with elite speed?

@@adamwal4591 His only knock is is FT%, which actually is pretty important.

​@@ron88303it is some what important. But Wilt did make them when needed. Just like when the knick tried the hack a Wilt technique he went 28-32. Dont get me wrong he was bad at free throws, and it bothered him that he could make them from half court but not the line. Besides he scored so much to make up for the missed free throws. 😂

Old heads stop

Well actually, Ive seen an interview where Wilt Feels the same way about Stockton. So the appreciation is mutual.

@Ken D yeah...it's hilarious

@Ken D The Glove was one of the very few players that trash talked to Bird more than once. Dude was CRAZY.... 9-)

Way ahead of his time! He had the ball on a yo yo. They have all his shots charted and you could add another 5-6 points if three pointers were counting during his college days. He took deep jump shots and buried them with regularity

yeah, my dad always brings up Elgin and Oscar as worthy of GOAT status, wish I could've seen them play

@@ewolffman the 2 first, great, complete all around stars. Jerry became that shortly as well.

@@Amick44 the logo was crazy skilled and a lethal shooter... he would kill it today

flopped in the NBA

You sound as ignorant as this psycho.

Dude has the steals record, lol. Can’t be soft for that.

Only because of his height. Anybody over 6'6" back then would have been pegged as an NBA player. Mullin was not that recognizable, apart from height.

@@majorkade Exactly, I think you're spot on! Also I doubt that Christian Laettner was already widely recognized soleley due to his popularity in 1992 😁

The black hair fit in well with Spain.

I seen those battles with larry and Boston Celtics against my bad boy detroit pistons a rivalry for real “

Larry bird must be in that top 10 or even 5 dude gave us nightmares until we finally beat them “

@@themadblackking4687 I've watched NBA since the early 70s and if I had 1st pick for my team I'm taking Bird over everyone

Game on the line, Larry Bird. Period.

Hakeem was a beast

4rth most unstoppable is prime SHAQ

@@johnsalchak3498 Yeah, and Hakeem has to be up there real close to the top, too. He was the best player on a team that swept Shaq’s team in the Finals, after all, and that was back when Shaq was still young, and in pretty good shape, too. Nobody could stop Hakeem at that time, and there might’ve been more great big men playing then, than at any other time.

YesHakeem,Shaq,Robinson,Ewing,&Mourning.But early to mid seventies.Kareem,Wilt,Thurmond,Reed,McAdoo,Lanier,Cowens,Unseld,&Walton.

That is the correct answer.The other guys I've seen play that are going to get there points no matter what in there prime are McAdoo,Gervin,Iverson,Kobe,Durant,& Curry.Props to McAdoo & Gervin for shooting over 50%, Durant oh so close.

Wilt was by far the most unstoppable and Stockton was commenting how hes left out.

Curry is unstoppable

War thinking Drexeler on the spot. Then Dominique

Curry shoots 50% from the locker room. Thats pretty much unstoppable.

Shaq

@@hittman23 Shaq was STOPPED by Dennis Rodman in a famed game. How do you call someone unstoppable when a guy *6 inches shorter* stops him?

Well, the problem is less that he is mostly quiet, but more that when he speaks, it is mostly BS.

And steals, clutch shooting, court savvy, setting screens, spacing, fighting through screens, attitude, morality.

He should come out more and talk about basketball, but never again about vaccines.

@@lp3860 Let's agree on more basketball and less anything else, just to be sure.

@@lp3860 well bro the vaccine thing was because of the issue he have getting into a college and he had no choice ..just because he speak on the vaccine we can't be putting a red mark on his profile just because he have a different opinions than yours we all have that freedom of speech and we all should choose what can go into our body..I agree than people shouldn't be afraid of the vaccine but at the end of the day I respect if someone is not ok with it. Is that simple

When bill Walton was calling game 6 .. Stockton caught the inbound pas ...aut-ooohhh...

Heart breaking shot! That Jazz team was loaded with Malone and Stockton, Jeff, Russell, Big O. I believe that if John Stockton would had just played selfish in the finals they would have won at least one or both championships.

@@df4480 that was the problem stock don't/ never play selfish... I'm a die hard... But big 0 ? He was a stiff!! They gave a few of them games over the years missing Free throws,

@@df4480 your boy dream ...I saw him have a few quadruple doubles.... Most of the time he didn't even look like he was trying.. lol greatness!!!!

@@johncampagna6129 Big O was in no way a stiff. Just got stuck for years on arguably the weakest team in the NBA for a long time.

He took practical, makeable shots. He was not a scorer. He delivered the ball, which is what you want a PG to do.

He was a true PG. True PG don’t shoot like Curry, lol.

One of the all time highest in fg points added and ts points added!!

More like if David Stern wasn't so corrupt that he changed everything about basketball to ensure Michael Jordan would win titles, most especially to in make sure that the defense of rules would be so relaxed that Jordan could go to the free-throw line 10-15 time's the game if the defendant would breathe on him

Payton got a ring on the heats wades first chip he was there

He was a true PG.

I would disagree. Magic Johnson (5 rings), at 7-8 inches taller than Stockton, created matchup nightmares for opposing coaches. A coach would have to consider using his 3(SF) to guard Magic. But that usually left his 2(SG) guarding James Worthy. Enough said.

You're very correct. A case could be made now. Steph Curry has probably already surpassed Magic.

John Stockton was an absolute gem. He stayed healthy, always displayed toughness and was the prototypical point guard. HE NEVER MADE MISTAKES. His stats are insane and he deserves EVERY BIT to be part of the conversation. 15806 assists speaks to his crazy skill level AND longevity for the game.

I@@majorkade I disagree on Steph already passing Magic... As a shooter he is the best I agree but all around no.

@seancagney8897 definitely doesn't pass as well as Magic. I tend to prefer point guards like Stockton and Isaiah (or Magic), as long as there are great shooters they dish to.

Pete Rose 4256. Ty Cobb 4189. I think that's 67 not 1000.

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@@entiat75 It is indeed, thank you for that correction.. Wilt is still the most unstoppable the NBA has ever seen..

@@rexrush5594 I agree

Pace. His "records" fall to pieces when you adjust for pace. Wilt averaged 27 per 100 possessions on 54 percent TS on the regular season and 19 per 100 on 52 percent TS in the postseason. MJ by comparison averaged 40.4 on 58 percent TS in the regular season and 43.3 on 57 percent TS in the playoffs. And that's with Wilt scoring on far lower volume the second half of his career from 1960-1966 he averaged 30.7 per 100 in the regular season on an abysmal 52.9 percent TS and just 22 per 100 on 52.4 percent TS in the playoffs. So MJ not only scored on literally DOUBLE the volume that Wilt did in the playoffs, he also scored on efficiency that was farther above league average during his career than Wilt did during his. Double the volume on higher relative efficiency = more dominant scorer.

Reckon he's just padding that one off.

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I can. Bird & MJ.

@@majorkade Wilt. 26 points in his LOWEST scoring game of the 50.4 season - VS BILL. Most NBA players would have counted that as a CAREER PEAK game.

Yup, it sucked sending Wilkens to Atlanta but at that time, the Jazz needed capital. They were on the verge of leaving Utah

Kareem past his prime. I agree with the others. Olajuwan is the 2nd best center in my book, right after Kareem. Fabulous on defense, unbelievable footwork, had a variety of shots and was pretty good on the foul line. Wilt and Shaq embarrassed their teams at ends of games. Could not hit free throws. Mental, poor mechanics. Kareem was really good on the free throw line.

@@majorkade both Wilt and Shaq had better careers then Hakeem Olajuwon! Hush dummy

A number of players have said they would rather guard Jordan than Bird. Have heard Jordan could make you look slow, Bird made you look stupid.

@@cindyknudson2715 That sounded like a Worthy quote.

You sound crazy

@@perennialviralbasketball24 Yet he knows what he is talking about and you obviously sound ignorant.

@@perennialviralbasketball24 Nope, part of that is a semi-quote FROM Wilt - TO Michael - at the 50 Year Team celebration.

Yeah Gary Payton has said it himself.

Payton talk trash? That's like saying BIRD talked trash.... 9-)

Stockton has a couple great stories about Bird so you know Stockton holds Bird in high esteem. However, Stockton is going to mention his teammate Karl Malone in that conversation, especially after Dan removed Wilt, Kareem, MJ, and anybody prior to '80. 😂

LL WAS THEGoaT.

I thought Dan was based out of Indianapolis, at least for a few years.

The most untouchable record in the NBA. Finals Rebounds - where Bill is DOUBLE Wilt, and Lebron is chasing Elgin for 3'd - at about ONE THIRD as many in 3 more Finals appearances.

Larry Bird is the Greatest Basketball Player of all Time.

I don't care who he was going against.Wilt averaged 42 points & 25 rebounds his first 5 years.

Bigger players hate little PG's setting picks on em. Ask Chris Webber!

Wilt? What about Jokic? And Doncic? They are way better than Wilt!

Russell era Celtics blows the Bulls dynasty out of the water. They don't talk mere 3-peats, they talk only LOSING 1 championship and only losing (to the eventual championship team) one other time. Jordan's Bulls NEVER BEAT BIRD'S CELTICS IN A PLAYOFF GAME. Not a SINGLE GAME. Far more impressive than those 3-peats.

Yep gritty is right, he missed what, 20 games out of 1500 in his career? And he's the all time assist leader, they don't build them like that anymore. Simmons, Kawhi , Lebron and "load management" lol WTF? Pussies.🤣🤣

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Uh....SHAQ!!!

@@patrickamtman7928 I didn't ask for an answer, but yes, Shaq was a very good player and scorer. I don't know if he's the most unstoppable all-time since 1980 besides Michael Jordan, but he's up there.

If I was asked to pick any player at their prime. The first one I'd pick is Shaq!

@@abcmaya Why are y'all telling me this? Where did all these Shaq fans come from? 🤣

@@CarlyDayDay That's because the title of the video. Shaq is clearly by far the most unstoppable player ever to play the game. I can still remember the way they had to foul the guy just to stop him from making a basket. One guy on each hand while a third player jumping on top of him and grabbing his neck from behind. it was crazy. If all other players mention other than Shaquille was fouled the way he was, they wouldn't last a month in the NBA.

@@T-roc57 MJ had a backup SF who led the Bulls in assists rebounds steals blocks in all 6 title runs added up together.

@Eternal Boss Judgement Day This game is so overlooked, media does it best to make it seem like Jordan was some unstoppable beast who never made a mistake.

@Eternal Boss Judgement Day That's all them Jordan jockers can brag about, ppg and fmvp, yeah okay he's number 1 in just TWO things, not everything else !

Kareem and MJ both argue that point.

Pace. Wilt averaged 27 per 100 possessions on 54 percent TS on the regular season and 19 per 100 on 52 percent TS in the postseason. MJ by comparison averaged 40.4 on 58 percent TS in the regular season and 43.3 on 57 percent TS in the playoffs. And that's with Wilt scoring on far lower volume the second half of his career from 1960-1966 he averaged 30.7 per 100 in the regular season on an abysmal 52.9 percent TS and just 22 per 100 on 52.4 percent TS in the playoffs. So MJ not only scored on literally DOUBLE the volume that Wilt did in the playoffs, he also scored on efficiency that was farther above league average during his career than Wilt did during his. Double the volume on higher relative efficiency = more dominant scorer.

@@Youngster543210 LOL. Jordan led the league once with a negative TS ADD(points added). That means if the average player took as many shots, he'd score more points. That means half the players in the league were more efficient than Jordan. Wilt has 7 of the top 10 FG ADD seasons and Kareem has 2. Steph's 2016 season is tenth. In no way was Jordan more efficient than Kareem and Wilt. FG ADD is an official adjusted shooting analytic.

@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 Lmao, Jordan had two seasons with negative TS added and they were at 39 and 40. Wilt wasn't even in the NBA at 39 and 40 loser lmao. Jordan was nearly 5 percent above league average TS for his career and nearly 6 percent above league average from 85-98. Wilt was about +4 and unlike Jordan his efficiency dropped in the playoffs while his volume was nearly cut in half. It's not close dude, get over it. No, FG added is NOT how you measure efficiency lol. By thay logic a player could take 10 shots and hit all ten of them, then get fouled on another 20 shots miss all 40 FTs and we'd say he was efficient lol. True shooting percentage IS efficiency lol. TS is just points per scoring attempt lol

@@Youngster543210 LOL Jordan had 4 seasons with a negative TS ADD and 6 seasons with a negative FG ADD. He led the league twice with a negative FG ADD. FG Points Added Top Seasons Career Wilt(67) Wilt Wilt(62) Kareem Wilt(63) Shaq Kareem(72) Kareem(71) Wilt(61) Wilt(66) Wilt(64) Wilt(68) Curry(16)

@@Youngster543210 Wilt led the league 9 times in FG%, 4 of those while leading the league in scoring. He led the league 3 times in TS%.

And notice it's pretty much always Hobbs that wins those games.

Lol, no, he wasn't. He was a great dunker and a very good player, but he was not close to Jordan.

Not even close.

Uh, no. Very unremarkable compared to Bird and MJ.

@@majorkade Julius had his best years in the ABA - but even THERE he wasn't unstoppable, just spectacular.

Bird also used to tell the other team the exact play there were running and then hit the shot to win the game

Yea right bird was stoppable when he lost to magic in the championship twice

BIRD SAID MJ WAS GOD IN A BASKETBALL UNIFORM

@@user-xd2kv6ur1nand yet god never won even a single playoff game vs bird

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