Johnny VS Daniel: Who Was RIGHT?

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Johnny OR Daniel | Who Was Right?
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Johnny Lawrence is one of the main antagonists-turned-protagonists of The Karate Kid trilogy and Cobra Kai television series. He was the troubled rich kid of the Valley who started a feud with new kid Daniel LaRusso that lasted over thirty-years. His vicious training with martial arts made him a formidable opponent, as he was the top student at the Cobra Kai dojo. After losing the 1984 All Valley Karate Tournament, Johnny's life turned upside down and remained that way into his adulthood. He is the estranged father of Robby Keene. In an attempt to reclaim his life, Johnny reopens the Cobra Kai Dojo and becomes a sensei to an entirely new generation of students. Daniel LaRusso is the main protagonist of The Karate Kid trilogy and one of the main characters of Cobra Kai television series. Daniel was a bullied high school student whose life changed when he was mentored by a wise karate sensei, who taught him both valuable life lessons and self-defense. Daniel was able to use this training to protect himself and others, winning two consecutive championships and beating aggressive opponents that challenged him. Years later after his initial training, Daniel settled down in the valley where he met a woman named Amanda and later on they were married with the pair eventually welcoming two children Samantha and Anthony. As Daniel continued on with his life as a devoted husband and father, he and Amanda are the owners of an auto-dealership chain called LaRusso Auto Group. He also retired from karate and used martial arts as a gimmick to promote his business. When his high school rival Johnny Lawrence resurfaced and opened Cobra Kai Dojo, Daniel was inspired to teach Miyagi-Do Karate to a new generation of students. Their rivalry had higher stakes then before, and things escalated during a school brawl that involved Daniel's daughter, Johnny's star student and estranged son. The aftermath of the high school karate war found Johnny and Daniel as reluctant allies, and they were forced to join forces once again when John Kreese challenged their respective dojos in the All Valley Karate Tournament.
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@vicshephard9231 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going with Johnny because he's at least open to possibly being wrong about things. Daniel's a little on the stubborn side.

@irvinmorales1409 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Johnny can also be stubborn and jealous. He was becoming resentful of Miguel learning Miyagi-Do and his growing relationship with LaRusso.

@AsianJidionkk 2 жыл бұрын

@@irvinmorales1409 I still think he’s better tho by a little, remind me again who’s dojo won during the first all valley in cobra kai

@agnikaineverdies7646 2 жыл бұрын

@@irvinmorales1409 , and Daniel was angry about Johnny getting closer with Sam, at least Johnny was justified in being resentful because Daniel was unnecessarily trying to replace Johnny by constantly taking Miguel out to dinner

@filthy0819 2 жыл бұрын

How could Johnny possibly be the better Sensei every student he trains ends up turning into a bullying causes a lot of problems hawk Miguel even Samantha this year when she got around Johnny he's basically teaching Cobra Kai and Cobra Kai is a flawed philosophy is flooded its core

@vicshephard9231 2 жыл бұрын

@@filthy0819 how are Daniel's students in comparison? Under Daniel's influence the students made a bad situation worse. Remember the water incident? Daniel applauded that stupidity. Johnny tried to warn them. That incident led to 80% of what wrong for them.

@irvinmorales1409 2 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that they're both the same in a lot of manners. We see Johnny becoming jealous of Miguel's growing relationship with LaRusso. Daniel resents the fact that Sam wants to learn more from Johnny rather than from him. However, I'd argue that Johnny is more willing to listen to others when compared to Daniel.

@magilla2282 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel is more successful too which makes it harder and rightfully so to adopt another way. Johnny was at rock bottom so taking advice from others is a little easier.

@rogermaddox6134 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it was so much that Samantha wanted to learn less from Daniel and more from Johnny as she wanted to learn an equal amount of both.

@AdventureTime4MVS 2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion before watching the video I've always thought that Johnny has had the better teachings in his dojo, everyone has to learn how to fight with their fist it's just what us humans have to do to survive a threat ever since the beginning of time basically what I'm trying to say is defense can get you so far

@SlayerXGamez 2 жыл бұрын

Fax i agree

@marrickyoutube1493 2 жыл бұрын

It larusso cause offense is useless because the moment you meet someone better than you in offense

@kalvin187douglas 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@SatoryanGojo 2 жыл бұрын

@@marrickyoutube1493 the best defense is more offense if somebodys better than you your defense wont matter

@PlatinumStrikes 2 жыл бұрын

Ehhh movies want you to believe defense is the best offense but that’s only in sports like basketball or football. Now anyone who’s ever been in a martial arts (boxing for me) you learn that defense is very good, but it’s only useful if you can form some offense from it. Balance is key but offense is for sure better

@devildolphin2102 2 жыл бұрын

Jonny actively Uses Other dojo’s moves and techniques to make his Students stronger. While Larusso actively tries to stick to his Miyagi-Do guns. But he does learn to respect Cobra-Eagle Fang Do. So he is becoming like Jonny.

@menzerroku4708 Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's fair he teaches counter moves and useful moves. Meanwhile Daniel only uses defense

@a.jdeets5527 2 жыл бұрын

In the movies, Daniel was written to be the good guy and for Johnny to be the bad guy. The whole point of the show is that neither Daniel nor Johnny is right nor wrong.

@bookhills2704 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, at least some who understand the show

@Nosferatu66921 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh everything Ali said in season 3 was facts

@Pixlez870 Жыл бұрын

True that’s why they made he’s the good guy in cobra kai

@BillyBob_McSanchez Жыл бұрын

Once Silver came along, Johnny completely understands why Daniel was against bringing back Cobra Kai to begin with

@jonathanbynoe4375 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny is more right than Daniel because he is willing to be more open minded and he encourages his students to be the same. Daniel on the other hand is a little stubborn, and is stuck in the Classical mess, thinking that the one style he learned is the right way. Daniel was wrong to split from Johnny and his style when Terry Silver came on the scene. He thinks that striking first is taboo in self-defense Karate. What is taboo, is starting fights, and bullying people to prove your toughness. Daniel is the Martin Luther King Jr. of the show and Johnny is the Malcolm X, "by any means necessary" of the show.

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel literally was the one who suggested to Johnny that they teach each other thier fighting styles. So Daniel is more open minded.

@Ticketman99 2 жыл бұрын

"Daniel was wrong to split from Johnny and his style when Terry Silver came on the scene" Why do you think Terry showed up in the first place?

@m8188 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ticketman99 because of daniels teachings to Miguel

@Ticketman99 2 жыл бұрын

@@m8188 Except that's not what caused the split to happen.

@mcgilj1 2 жыл бұрын

Could Chozen be the third leg of the tripod between them? He does understand the more center and calm of the art. But also embraces a much more aggressive style. This could be the thing to really bring both sides together. I don't think they will directly join together into one dojo. But I could see them learning from one another. Much like Daniel remembering about finding his own way this was important in season 4 to the karate. Season 5 embracing that will be even bigger outside of the dojo.

@agnikaineverdies7646 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny since he had no issues using miyagi do but Daniel only wanted to use his style

@ericjiang8948 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say he had NO issues... lol

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

No issues? Lmao He literally almost quit Miyagi do when first learning it from Daniel. Even though he learned it, he thought it was pointless in a fight. Daniel has shown to acknowledge the usefulness of Eagle Fang after the hockey game.

@somedude1666 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarveshnathan7559 he also tried to use it against Terry silver though.

@agnikaineverdies7646 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarveshnathan7559 , he used it against terry and taught it to devon

@roarmbee7045 2 жыл бұрын

None of them is right, the show is about perspective, perspective between Daniel and Johnny, see both sides of the stories.

@sanemithemuffin3888 2 жыл бұрын

Bro please can you make what if chozen came back to America with Miyagi and Daniel in karate kid 2?

@darthprodigy4486 2 жыл бұрын

He already did. It’s called What If Chozen joined Miyagi-Do? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMx4hN2Gu8inYIE.html

@PozerAdultRacingTeam 2 жыл бұрын

Season 4 proves a good mix of Eagle Fang and Miyagi Do can be quite effective.

@ioriyagami347 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but all 3 of the dojo's are literally using the same karate because of robby teaching miyagi do to cobra kai and johnny and kreese was teaching cobra kai to the kids before he gave kreese the dojo

@jjohnsonnccc 2 жыл бұрын

I like Johnny’s teachings as a sensei because they are exactly the kind of confidence booster people, especially kids, need in the world. It’s not just about unnecessary violence like Daniel thinks. It’s about having the mentality to aggressively pursue your passions. If you’re going to go in on something, then go ALL in instead of half-assing it. Being decisive is better than no decision. Just like Miyago-do’s teachings, the “strike first” mentality isn’t only something that applies to karate, it’s a way of life. Especially in today world, those are the kinds of mentors our kids need

@dartanian7853 Жыл бұрын

Imma go with Johnny on this one. He saw “his” girl getting hit on by Daniel and reacted. Daniel threw first, and Johnny just retaliated. Then with Johnny’s teachings. He teaches the kids to be go-getters and not in a bubble or trapped by their insecurities. When Louis and his goons destroyed his car, he thought it was Daniel’s doing, and most people in that situation would too.

@aniocitex1131 2 жыл бұрын

If think Daniel would have been fine to opening up to eagle fang, if terry silver didn’t completely fuck with his mind to then have a student constantly attack him

@HolyknightVader999 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny, of course. He has a sense of restraint and mercy, but in the end, when you're being attacked on the street, all that nonsense about inner peace and meditation flies out the window. You need to be able to strike first, strike hard, show no mercy, because the other guy won't, and if you hesitate, you may lose your money, your dignity, or your life. Daniel's teachings are good for inner peace, but you can find that at a Church, a yoga gym, or just sitting around in the park and admiring the beauty of nature. You don't need to wash cars and paint fences to find inner peace. Nor do you need to do such chores just to learn defensive moves; just repeat them on your own and the muscle memory will set in.

@LoganDX1990 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't Robby do that when teaching the cobra Kai students

@HolyknightVader999 2 жыл бұрын

@@LoganDX1990 Yes. Which means the chores in Miyagi-Do don't make any sense.

@LoganDX1990 2 жыл бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 basically free labor disguised as training

@HolyknightVader999 2 жыл бұрын

@@LoganDX1990 I can understand it for Mr. Miyagi, he was an old man and it was a good payment for teaching Daniel. But Daniel shouldn't have done the same to newcomers, Robby showed Cobra Kai how to properly teach Miyagi-Do.

@menzerroku4708 Жыл бұрын

He's just doing what he remembered. And muscle memory is hard to learn

@TaoistSwordsman 2 жыл бұрын

Terrific video! Less noise spikes please :)

@marrickyoutube1493 2 жыл бұрын

Also don’t say Daniel sucker punch him because Daniel push him to the ground

@johnnycage112 2 жыл бұрын

Please do a video on Louie. The man has gone through his own story arc.

@johnnycage112 2 жыл бұрын

@@theserpent8667 right?

@tanner7139 2 жыл бұрын

Neither one is right in their conflict. It was very two-sided. But in the series, I give a slight edge to Johnny. Daniel seems to instigate a little more. As for who is the better teacher, I honestly don't know. They both have pluses and minuses. I think it depends on the kid. As far as a kid who has anger issues and is a bully, I think Daniel. But Johnny's methods are helpful for kids who are doormats and are too passive. They are both great teachers, in my opinion.

@stevensosa5995 2 жыл бұрын

I see what you’re saying about the sensei part but I think it’s the opposite. I think Daniel is good at training those who are “weaker” through defense, since that is their natural extinct. That’s why I think he succeeded with Demetri and had even had Miguel become interested in his style. Johnny is was able to do the same for offense with Hawk and Tori who have more aggressive personalities when provoked. That’s just kind of how I see it.

@greatest_bumble_bee_dude 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel is a Dumbo. He should have just allowed the department of justice employees to Deal with Robby. Robby needed to learn how to just mind his own personal life business.

@greatest_bumble_bee_dude 2 жыл бұрын

He almost got himself into a fair amount of strife trying to pick a fight with Shawn along with the others in the juvenile detection centre

@sarveshnathan7559 Жыл бұрын

"Daniel seems to instigate a little more" Nope that's Johnny

@sarveshnathan7559 10 ай бұрын

"Daniel seems to instigate a little more." Their fight in 4x5 was instigated by Johnny. When Daniel tried to explain how dangerous Terry is all he could think was that he was stronger.

@Sh1zbyname22 2 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna have to say Johnny because look what he made Miguel, hawk, aisha and more into

@LosHitman 2 жыл бұрын

but daniel made demetri…

@Sh1zbyname22 2 жыл бұрын

@@LosHitman demetri was just an annoying runt in season 1 and 2

@vortexfury7197 2 жыл бұрын

Hello mr youtube guy im gonnaa leave this comment here saying i like the effort you put into these cobra kai videos

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny's teachings are hella dangerous and life-threatening. -Setting rabid dogs on his students -Move a cement truck, where the fumes can cause choking and asphyxiation -Throwing hornet's nest at them where they can get stung and suffer allergic reactions -Making students run around cans with fire -Jumping from one building to another with little to no safety precautions should they not make it, meaning if they fell, they would break their necks and die. Idk why parents don't sue him for child endangerment. While I prefer Johnny's philosophy more, the means he uses are far too extreme, making it hard to decide who's right.

@ethancadle937 2 жыл бұрын

War is hell, there are no rules in conflict Even if it is just a karate dojo conflict

@tempest3927 2 жыл бұрын

Not everyone becomes a Daniel lapusso he had to do it the kids already were facing bullying what more worse could happen then getting beaten by 3,4 bullies while you can't do sh*t?

@can-ws8hn 2 жыл бұрын

Ok Daniel Lapusso come out of your fake account lol

@LPSlight0 2 жыл бұрын

@@ethancadle937 it's a high school karate tournament

@ethancadle937 2 жыл бұрын

@@LPSlight0 ok and?

@StrykeSZN 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny is the best. He is the most balanced on the show besides maybe chozen. Miyagi-do: good. Cobra kai: bad. Notice how Johnny uses both?? The good in the bad, and the bad in the good. Yin-yang=balance. Not only is Johnny balanced but he is super close to miyagi in morals, maybe not so much in teachings. Daniel finally realized that when after Daniel said “QUIET” to Anthony. Amanda literally said “idk what kind of miyagi magic you pulled but it worked.” When in fact it wasn’t miyagi magic, it was Johnny magic. Not to mention the countless parallels to miyagi such as helping a kid learn karate to stand up for himself. Teaching that kid life skills and helping him become a man. But Johnny need Miguel as much as Miguel needed him. Just like miyagi and Daniel. 1 more point before bore you. In kk3 when Daniel went off on miyagi he said “without Daniel-San I am lost” or something along those lines. In season 4 when Miguel was spending way too much time with Daniel. Johnny was lost, just like miyagi was. Johnny is the best sensei besides miyagi but maybe by the end of the show Johnny will become the perfect sensei like you said.

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

Most balanced person? And yet, he can't balance his time with Miguel and Robby, clearly favoring Miguel a lot more.

@socio637 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarveshnathan7559 when he was drunk he mistook miguel for robby. migeul might spend more time with johnny, but i dont think its fair to say johnny prefers miguel

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

@@socio637 He clearly does. Like when he should have visited Robby in juvie but chose to stay with Miguel. Or when Johnny threw a fit over Miguel training with Daniel but didn't care that his son is training with someone far worse. When comparing the effort he made with both boys it's not even close.

@socio637 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarveshnathan7559 he tried to be present in Robbys life throughout cobra Kai and the majority of times Robby didn’t want him to. Miguel actually wanted Johnny around the majority of the time so of course Johnny would be there for him

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

@@socio637 " he tried to be present in Robbys life throughout cobra Kai and the majority of times Robby didn’t want him to." Name one major thing Johnny has done for Robby

@conorwellman8592 Жыл бұрын

They are both half right That is why Hawk/Eli is the most balanced character of the show (except for maybe Chozen) He trained with both of them and in his fight with Robby and Kyler as well as his coming out of depression he showed he had fully integrated a balance of offense and defense while Johnny and Danny are both set in their ways and have no balance.

@BreakingBad2020 2 жыл бұрын

*Cobra Kai Season 5 Spoiler* Silver contacts Barnes right after he retired from the Army at the start of Cobra Kai Season 5. Former Green Beret, he was now a special forces karate instructor. Barnes declines Silver's offer. Several months after Mike Barnes' retirement, he discovered that his life savings had been stolen by insurance fraud. Silver contacts him at the right time with the right promise. So Barnes takes him up on his offer to support his sick wife and family. (Silver exploited Barnes' financial situation to force him to accept a new job without his knowledge)

@TheRealSephiroth 2 жыл бұрын

Source?

@bentennyson6141 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSephiroth his imagination inside his head

@TheRealSephiroth 2 жыл бұрын

@@bentennyson6141 lol

@markmac2206 2 жыл бұрын

plot twist: Barnes hit the gym real hard and became Schwarzenegger's stunt double.

@azzydreamurr6954 2 жыл бұрын

This isn’t a spoiler it’s a fanfic but it could still happen in canon though. And daniel would need to lean on chozen and johnny because he’s probably gonna get traumatised from nearly dying, getting manipulated completely. And getting absolutely tortured in the fight in the cobra kai dojo as well as the mid point of the tournament. I hope mike wants to attack him but gets the miyagi treatment all over again except by chozen.

@Ticketman99 2 жыл бұрын

That depends. Johnny's point of view is valid in the sense of helping kids take initiative and stand up for themselves. The problem is that he used the ideal and name of Cobra Kai to achieve this(he realizes how damaging this really is by the end of season 1 and is on the way of making reforms ever since. This is basically the foundation of his own dojo Eagle Fang). When Daniel notices this, he pretty much wages a war because, well... Daniel's experiences with Cobra Kai are...not nice at best(everything that happened between Daniel meeting Johnny for the first time and the 1984 All Valley tournament)and downright traumatizing at worst(everything that happened between Daniel meeting Terry Silver for the first time and the 1985 All Valley tournament). As we've seen throughout the show, Terry's(admittedly absurd)plan to mess up Daniel's psyche had actually worked very well. To really answer the question, both guys can learn from each other. At the moment, Johnny is ahead of Daniel in terms of learning how to adapt to an opposite perspective so maybe he's the one closer to being "right" than Daniel is.

@youngkid1827 2 жыл бұрын

I got a vid suggestion what if hawk stayed in cobra Kai

@simonpierre8283 2 жыл бұрын

Part 2

@youngkid1827 2 жыл бұрын

Yea my bad part 2

@geraldjames7719 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's not popular but I got to go with Daniel on this one. For better or worse Daniels sticks to his guns to everyone. Johnny has a tendency to lie when faced with people of authority.

@paularoysko7861 2 жыл бұрын

Can you give me an example of Johnny lying to an authority figure? Not saying you're wrong, just wanna know. At the top of my head can't find one. Maybe in Karate Kid, but in Cobra Kai?

@geraldjames7719 2 жыл бұрын

@@paularoysko7861 lying to Miguel's mother about the exact nature of Cobra Kai. His entire side of the story was taken out of context when he told Miguel about his past. Even when he was talking to the committee to get cobra kai reinstated he was just telling them what he thought they wanted to hear. And that's just season 1.

@paularoysko7861 2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldjames7719 okay... Miguel is the one who lies to his mother about doing karate in the first place. The first time Carmen and Johnny even talk to each other without Miguel was after the fight at the Halloween dance, where Johnny admits he let Miguel down, promises to be there for him (which mind you he does consistently after that) and begs for another chance. Then they have that one dinner scene where they barely even talk about karate, let alone Cobra Kai. Why would he go out of his way to announce all his problems from his past to someone he barely knows at this point? That is not lying. With Miguel, you already fall short with your point, because Miguel in no way is an authority figure to Johnny, so that point is moot. He leaves stuff out because his hate towards Daniel clouds his judgement. Now that is definetly shitty and wrong, but in no way is that different from what Daniel does. In contrast, Miguel still wants to date Sam and takes what Johnny tells him with a grain of salt, but Sam just blindly believes everything Daniel tells her and doesn't even know everything from Daniels past with Cobra Kai until in season 2. Even Amanda has'nt told everything from her past to Daniel, because nobody wants to broadcast their wrongdoings from their past. And then the commitee meating... did we even watch the same scene? Absolutely nothing Johnny says is a lie. He really didn't know anything about Silver, he admits that Kreeses methods were questionable, he wants to impact his students life and does so. Just because the almighty Daniel thinks its bullshit, doesn't make it so. There were problems at the tournament, but Johnny was acting out of grieve and anger, which again clouds his judgement. And as soon as he sees where he went wrong, he wanted to change. He wants to be better.

@geraldjames7719 2 жыл бұрын

@@paularoysko7861 this seems like a lot of splitting hairs. On the issue with his mother. Allowing a kid and his grandmother to continuously deceive his mother for his own benefit is still a lie. Even after the Halloween party they still covered up what happened at the school lunch room. Yes his whole past is none of her business but what's going on with her son definitely is. And yes I am willing to concede that Miguel is not an authority figure ....not sure how that derails my point in any way but sure. Now for the committee meeting that actually bothers me the most. You remember that he implied what he was doing was creating a safe space where people don't bully you and you build confidence. the confidence part sure, for those who stayed. the others who couldn't handle being insulted quit which is the opposite of what he was claiming.

@paularoysko7861 2 жыл бұрын

@@geraldjames7719 first of all, if your whole argument is that Johnny lies to authority figures and you bring up a point where he clearly doesn't, of course it means that that point is invalid. Never said that because of that one point, your whole thesis was wrong. Now. I fail to see how in any way its Johnnys responsibility to police what a teenager he is not related to and his adult grandma do in their own home. Johnny is not a part of that family, not yet at that point. I would agree with you if there would have been a scene where Carmen herself went to Johnny and asked "is my son lying to me?" and he would've said no. That would've been lying. And benefit? Miguel is not a paying student at that point. What has he got to lose? After the halloween ordeal, he almost quits too. Miguel wants to keep training and Johnny refuses, but than changes his mind and talks to Carmen, who already knows about the training. Carmen could've said no, but gives him another chance cause she sees how the training helped Miguel. The safe space thing. If the scene of Johnny bullying the new students had happened after the meeting, it would've been lying. But it occurs before. Miguel calls him out, Johnny once again sees where he went wrong and starts to change his ways. He is learning. It is not his fault that people quit before he could make amends.

@SuperYash.d8395 2 жыл бұрын

The whole main reason of karate is for selfdefense. Not for fighting, if matters can be settled from talking, it is the best thing.

@ThanosTheTitan93 2 жыл бұрын

The problem that I have with Daniel is he sees thing as black and white. He jumped straight to the black point of view when he learned about Johnny opening the dojo. He could have talked to Johnny as why he did it and it was for a good cause.

@kash5439 2 жыл бұрын

I mean he just left it until he heard what kyler said about him. And he must’ve seen no mercy painted on the wall

@ThanosTheTitan93 2 жыл бұрын

@Kash he still jumped to conclusions and assumed the worse. It's not Daniel's responsibility to sentence someone. Johnny went to jail unfairly but served the time for it. Look how dumb he looked when Kyler was found to be an asshole. Not a single apology by Daniel.

@rbspidey 2 жыл бұрын

Okay though even if Daniel was scared of Silver, he should never have suggested to split the dojos. At that point that’s just complete disrespect towards the value of Johnny’s teachings. It was probably an excuse when the real reason was him getting scared of Johnny’s influence on Sam but it was a dick move. I think Johnny could have talked with Miguel and resolved his feelings of jealousy without the dojos being split and they could have been seriously working together instead of Daniel wanting to split the dojos and throwing everyone off balance.

@Ticketman99 2 жыл бұрын

Out of EVERYONE in the entire show besides Kreese, who other than Daniel knows how Silver operates? Watch episode 5 again.

@KrishTheRich 2 жыл бұрын

I would say daniel is the more powerful fighter not in skill but just that daniel learns karate quickly like we pretty much mastered eagle fang karate in 1 day

@KrishTheRich 2 жыл бұрын

he not we oops

@azzydreamurr6954 2 жыл бұрын

@@KrishTheRich You’re not wrong about that but johnny had the incredible feat of training the legend himself. Season 1 and the first half of the season 2 miguel. Who literally floored johnny himself in one of their sparring training sessions, now it wasn’t a true fight but still a great feat nonetheless. But johnny has more killer instinct in power and strength as well as adaptation. But daniels faster, more agile and had the best training experience possible with not only miyagi but even some killer instinct from terry silver who’s stronger than kreese by a bit.

@KrishTheRich 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel was rusty

@KrishTheRich 2 жыл бұрын

@@azzydreamurr6954 also if u have seen season 3 and season 4 they clearly want us to know Daniel and Johnny are even in skill

@UZUMAKINARUTO-zk6fs 2 жыл бұрын

Johny was a failure in life but he didnt let that define who he really , he is a real badass teacher whose teachings are just amazing . Daniel is successful in both life and his teachings are also useful in life . It just depends on the students and their will power

@crazyxman6583 2 жыл бұрын

You should do What Ifs where the sensei would take over training: What If Miyagi Do joined Eagle Fang(Johnny Won)? What if Eagle Fang joined Miyagi Do(Daniel Won)?

@toothpasteface5110 Жыл бұрын

I think they’re the same good but in different ways because they both tied whenever they fight so I think it means that they’re both tied mentally to

@yagerzero 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel was right about cobra kai and Silver. While Johnny was right about people needing aggression, that Myogido isn't enough to beat Silver again.

@greenhalghwilliam3888 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a what if Miguel and tory went to the mall with hawk to get back at demetri for the review in season 2

@chasekilgore8077 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny

@_sqwid 2 жыл бұрын

Both of them and none of them. There are key and important lessons within both styles of teaching. One to learn how to face fear and kick its ass, and the other is to learn how to be more passive than to just go out swinging all the time. It’s just the way they go about teaching these elements is wrong. They both take it to the extreme and are very protective of the way they teach, not to mention trying to demolish all of the teachings the other one has taught that the student has absorbed.

@thunderwolf2842 2 жыл бұрын

Valley fest wasnt a jab at larusso tho. It was n open forum for johnny to take advantage of. Larusso just took it to heart

@Aaron-zt5ee Жыл бұрын

Why do so many people think Ali and Johnny were dating when he and Daniel fought on the beach. They mention in that scene that they had broken up and it’s mentioned again in Cobra Kai. That was not “Johnny’s girl”. Johnny had no business getting involved.

@azzydreamurr6954 2 жыл бұрын

Both are equally important but they way it’s taught is definitely going to johnny especially in season 4.

@juanma250297 2 жыл бұрын

Neither of them were right, both are extremely stuck on their own ways and can’t see passed their own egos which affect everyone around them including their kids. Samantha is aggresive, Robby was a thug who tried to change his ways and Anthony is a spoiled brat that can’t do anything for himself. Miguel ignited the whole issue with Robby, if he hadn’t gone full Cobra Kai them he wouldn’t have fought Robby in the school fight and Robby wouldn’t have kicked him several stores down and he wouldn’t have been arrested and influenced by Kreese to join Cobra Kai. Also he should’ve known better than pretend that Johnny is his father, he isn’t, Robby is his son and Johnny made the mistake of treating him better than he did with Robby, he should’ve tried harder to talk with Robby instead of leaving him alone. Daniel should have left Robby alone instead of turning him against Johnny even more than before, he didn’t and he just made things worse for everyone Also Johnny should have smacked Hawk over the head when he started using Karate to hurt other people, but he looked passed that and he became a violent person that could’ve ended up like Dutch To me both Johnny and Daniel are wrong in every way

@vicshephard9231 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny made Hawk pay at the start of season 4.

@azzydreamurr6954 2 жыл бұрын

Yea but at least johnnys gave great rapid improvements. Miguel went from being a scared boy, to a warrior who never lost a battle since and overcame nearly all things. And it worked for Eli and Sam too, Eli had to use cobra kai because daniels miyagi do would’ve failed him against robby. Sam did better with eagle fang offensive karate in the tournament than with miyagi do. Yet daniel still claims miyagi do is the only way

@ioriyagami347 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh johnny was willing to give myagi do a try but then daniel just keep making it seem like miyagi do was the way thats what made johnny mad

@ZenKrio 2 жыл бұрын

Actually it was because Miguel didn't go full Cobra Kai that he got hit off the top floor. If Johnny didn't tell him to show restraint, Miguel would have been fine since he technically won.

@sarveshnathan7559 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel never tried to turn Robby against Johnny. He literally tried to do the opposite EOS1, where he convinced Robby to forgive Johnny and telling him how he's not a bad person, but a conflicted one.

@note8857 Жыл бұрын

When are you gonna make saitama in dbz part 2?

@ehs1452 2 жыл бұрын

Why did you tell Johnny's biased view of Karate Kid instead of what actually happened?

@theinvestigativemillennial9381 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video and while the over all point of them both being wrong is correct I have to side with daniel overall. 1:57 daniel did ask johnny for his motivations in episode 3 when johnny was at the high school. He asked him "why do you want to bring cobra kai back after what your sensei did to you?" Johnny said "because I'm not kreese and the lessons worked" Daniel them said "strike first, no mercy real good lessons" he then said hes not going to him fill the kids heads up with that garbage. Your nuts" That is probably the dumbest response johnny could give. (Leaving aside the fact that he nearly drowned miguel in the same episode). Daniel knows that this is what johnny is teaching specifically because he went to the dojo and saw the writing on the wall. Daniel did try to understand and johnny gave him the dumbest answer possible "the lessons worked" the same lessons that led to daniel being bullied because of the strike first mentality. As for him claiming that he was trying to make an impact on kids lives. Its partly a lie he said they won't get picked on because they're losers but we know in episode 6 that this isnt true. He bullies kids and doubles down on them. Johnny also assaulted Daniel's employee. As for him keeping Robby at his house. Johnny after being an absentee dad likely has little to no custody rights but honestly john kreese was back and Daniel was right not to let Robby around johnny when kreese was there. Kreese is a horrible influence.

@anonymousloner3396 2 жыл бұрын

neither side is right back in the 70s but you can't deny Johnny started it so it's his fault but they were both hot heads but still Johnny was the one who started

@remc0s 2 жыл бұрын

'80s, not '70s. 1984 to be precise.

@pud_walff 2 жыл бұрын

Jonny 🦍😈!

@omarib8867 Жыл бұрын

Johnny Lawrence and Daniel larusso are my favorite

@iswiftyfox8997 Жыл бұрын

Daniel has the right message but goes about it wrong. He is doing what Miyagi taught him but hes being stubborn while miyagi would prolly ignore something like that. People say "defense can only get you so far in a fight" yeah nobody actually thinks defense is just defense. Have you seen daniel fight he clearly attacks and defends like I just dont understand some peoples points. Karate isnt about starting fights, its about defending yourself in others when you need to fight. Sometimes the best defense is offense but that still falls in the defense category because its fighting to defend. The greatest victories are that which have no battle and thats what it means to be defense. Using karate as a last resort rather than going out of your way to fight. Miyagi is the best sensei and has the best messages but Daniel doesnt really treat it as miyagi would. its kinda weird in the movies weve always seen him to kinda like think miyagis karate was boring and he was very similar to what johnny is now. But now hes a real sticler for miyagi do but in the wrong ways, He wants to fight, to prove Miyagi Do is superier, to get more students. whereas miyagi would do his own thing with the few students he had and not try and get more because he knows the few that he does have are there because they want to learn his teachings and not to become a fighting master or whatever.

@julianbigelow2794 Жыл бұрын

1:40 I think that Tylearn is over stating how good of a thing it was for Johnny to bring back Cobra Kai. When Miguel asked Johnny to teach him Karate, Johnny refused. After the conversation with Daniel, Johnny decides to reopen the dojo. It seems that the one good thing Johnny did was try to avoid Daniel. If Johnny had successfully avoided Daniel, Cobra Kai would never have been reopened and Miguel would have joined Topanga karate.

@88omarvelous Жыл бұрын

I’ve always felt at least in this series that Daniel is wrong. Granted he has admirable qualities and his past history with Cobra Kai framed his thinking..However it’s his inability to both mind his own business in regard to what Johnny was intending to do and for him to stop thinking a he’s right everyone else is wrong pretty much causes a lot of the trouble…though Johnny also easily gets sucked in by being reactionary.

@rabbitcorp.103 2 жыл бұрын

Do a video on Dre

@andrewweber5596 Жыл бұрын

Nobody is truly better

@julianbigelow2794 Жыл бұрын

4:25 Is Tylearn implying (or stating) that Johnny did a good thing by letting Kreese back into the dojo? If Johnny wanted to help Kreese rehabilitate himself, there are ways to do that that do not require him to let Kreese near the students.

@user-gf3vb7xj3h 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny is right

@PozerAdultRacingTeam 2 жыл бұрын

#TeamJohnny

@rakanelafrangi161 2 жыл бұрын

I watched Cobra Kai before KK, I thought Johnny came across much more relatable

@Altorin 2 жыл бұрын

If you are going to follow only one follow Johnny but really all of the senseis, even the "evil" ones have lessons worth learning

@phillipmarlowe0525 2 жыл бұрын

Johnnie.

@simonpierre8283 2 жыл бұрын

What IF robby won The all velly or what IF shawn joind cobra kai in season 4 or what IF hawk stayed in cobra kai part 2 or what IF Miguel joind kresse part 2 or what IF cobra kai won The school fight or what IF cobra kai won The mall fight or what IF or what IF cobra kai won The house fight or what IF kresse never attack jonnhy or what IF terry silver opend cobra kai back or what IF kresse made cobra kai comeback instead of jonnhy or what IF Anthony joind cobra kai or what IF Mike Barnes won against Daniel or what IF jonnhy never changed The strike first strike hard no mercy rules

@julianbigelow2794 Жыл бұрын

4:35 Kreese's lessons and Johnny's lessons are not necessarily one and the same, but the fact is Kreese was able to teach these toxic lessons to the students, because Johnny made the mistake of letting Kreese near the students.

@callumhulme5503 2 жыл бұрын

Early gang

@MrEnergee1987 Жыл бұрын

Without Johnny Lawrence there would be no Draco Malfoy just think about it

@tonynomikos3702 2 жыл бұрын

What would have happened if daniel didnt know that terry silver was on the scene again cause danuel didnt go near the co ra kai dojo

@xanderfoley6641 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny.

@cosmic_serpant9199 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny wants to make his students strong and ready for the world whilw larusso was stuck on that he didnt want cobra kai in the valley

@AGTV10 9 ай бұрын

I think Daniel was right, if you go back to the original movie Alli was flirting with Daniel. Daniel had no idea who he was when he came down. He thought johnny was a bully. Then when she comes to Daniel at the cafeteria she tells Daniel that johnny used to be her bf. When Daniel heard this he even said the voice in his head was telling him he’s a real yoyo for talking to Alli. She then convinced him that they’ve been broken up for weeks now. Johnny just couldn’t help that Alli moved on and held that hate towards Daniel ever since. That’s why I believe Daniel was right and Johnny was wrong. In the Cobra Kai show Johnny wanted to reopen Cobra Kai in the Valley to start a dojo. Daniel was upset because after what John Kreese and Terry Silva did to him in Karate Kid 3. Johnny on the other hand wanted to open a dojo different to what Silva and Kreese. It was a total misunderstanding on both parts but because of their stubbornness and hate they really couldn’t come together and talk it out. So I’d say more towards Daniel both in totality it’s both of them in the wrong.

@ezanamelekot6796 7 ай бұрын

In fact at first Johnny taught cobra kai the same way Kresse and Silver has taught. Strike first, strike hard and no mercy. But later he cHanged it after he saw his own kid got beat up by his best student.

@brevonmckinney2537 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel has always been a stubborn annoying person, who thinks that everybody should do what he does, and only do his way

@robwest1493 2 жыл бұрын

Curious how Daniel would’ve reacted if he knew about his daughter’s friend hitting Johnny’s car.

@storba3860 Жыл бұрын

Neither are right or wrong. They're simply two halves of Miyagi's legacy.

@LPSlight0 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really interested in the fact that Daniel and Johnny's actions resulted in two street gangs forming, it's like those two have no sense of responsibility to others whatsoever

@julianbigelow2794 Жыл бұрын

4:30 Why should Daniel have asked Johnny to? Daniel was capable of tending to Robby's basic needs, so there was nothing Johnny could have done for Robby that Daniel couldn't have.

@darkdog42 2 жыл бұрын

What if kreese and Johnny join forces so you have chosen and Daniel terry and mike Barnes and Johnny and kreese

@senseimourgi676 2 жыл бұрын

Who was right - none Seriously, these kids fight like there lives depend on it, even the adults in the situation are stupid Still, I love the show

@thewhopper411 2 жыл бұрын

Two sides, same coin.

@ObaREX 2 жыл бұрын

Yo I will not consider the beating Johnny gave Daniel on Halloween to be defending himself. Nah, that shit was just plain ol' revenge. Punishment. And he definitely took it too far. Even if Daniel was being a total idiot that night. (Like, what did he think was gonna happen?)

@natedoesgaming3722 Жыл бұрын

yeah there’s barley gonna be any comments that’s Daniels the better sensai

@GnosticGnome 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel was an arrogant kid, but most kids are arrogant. Johnny was the one being a bully and attempting to assert dominance over the new kid; hell, you can't even really frame what he was doing after the hose scene as giving Daniel a taste of his own medicine. Because thus far Daniel has only been put on the defensive, he sprayed some water at the guy and they wanna go for attempted murder? Yea, no. However, Daniel was framed as being really irrational and petty in S1 of Cobra Kai; maybe he thought Kreese was in the mix? Maybe he just knew that Johnny's way of teaching was only going to create more bullies (which it did; he's directly responsible for Hawk breaking Robby's arm and Miguel fighting dirty and attacking it). This only reinforced Daniel's lack of regard for the way Cobra Kai teaches, because Karate is really about control; control over yourself, your emotions, your surroundings. The show attempts to artificially reinforce Johnny's way of fighting and teaching by nerfing most of the Miyagi Do students, and attempting to frame their use of Miyagi Do only as a flaw. In reality, the two strongest fights in the verse were practitioners of Okinawan Karate, and in the first season Robby was wiping the floor with everybody with nothing but Miyagi Do.

@nathanzaroovabeli4799 2 жыл бұрын

What if hawk stayed at eagle fang

@ozero00rockon 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny minds his own business and Daniel puts his nose in Johnny’s business a lot.

@ressestevenson7309 2 жыл бұрын

Can we stop this Im team grandchamp. Always meaning Daniel neither was right. Why didn't they win

@vicshephard9231 2 жыл бұрын

Silver paid the ref.

@stevejohnson2308 2 жыл бұрын

The ref was payed and if Daniel wasn’t so stubborn they could’ve won he let Eli and Sam use cobra Kai and eagle fang in the finals knowing Eli has limited amount of training with it, sams a way better offensive fighter but he didn’t care til she start losing

@anonymousloner3396 2 жыл бұрын

In season 2 they coulda just talked but it's mainly Krees's fault

@heatherorchard5772 Жыл бұрын

I am going with Daniel he is good Good move I hope he teach me how to Do it good luck Dan

@Daniel-qj1xp 2 жыл бұрын

Do what if kresse never came back

@1nzzy62 2 жыл бұрын

What if johnny visited robby

@nickhalden9220 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny all day

@colinmiyamoto2190 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh I always hated how whenever they team up they’d always find some way to split. It’s literally the same story arc every season and I freaking hate it. I honestly hope next time they team up it’s permanent cause I hate it when the same plots used over and over again it just makes the show really predictable and makes me like the characters a bit less.

@ezanamelekot6796 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion both of them are right and wrong. Both offence and defence are needed but they should be in balance.

@Demise09732 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny is in my opinion more of a cool sensei and he has a soft side but her refuses to show it, he teaches with discipline and strict code, he pushes his students to their limits and they ask for more. He is the definition of a drillsargent. Daniel is more of a keep cool and calm in a fighting situation, he is all about balance, but the one thing that he learned from Johnny is that it is OK once in a while to let that wild side loose. Both sensei are awesome I can relate with both of them mentally and in physical training. Physical = Johnny style Mentally = Danile style.