​@@morisilweindal2848and Richard Tucker, too...

No he's not

Pienamente d'accordo col fatto dei paragoni ognuno ha il suo tempo . Ma questa è una voce ingolata non si apre non esplode non ha appoggio, non sale , che palle tutte queste pseudo mezze voci che fa in questa romanza si sentono perché il palco è pieno di microfoni , i si bemolle che fa tra l'altro sono anche calanti come il la bemolle finale poi. Se lo osserva così a Kaufman forse capirà meglio i paragoni che la gente fa con i grandi tenori .😉

E che palle sentire certe persone che non riconoscono la differenza tra la voce di tenore vero e un mezzo baritono affogato per strangolamento e osannato perché ormai il pubblico non ha cultura musicale:esattamente come te, carissima!

E che palle sentire certe persone che non conoscono la differenza tra la voce di tenore e un mezzo baritono affogato per strangolamento...osannato però,perchè ormai il pubblico non ha cultura musicale:esattamente come te, carissima!🙄

Barbara Gaweł i agree totally!!!

absolutely

Yes Mannail888 is clearly a disgruntled soul. I'm preparing a talk for our music appreciation society comparing singers of different ages. As I've been doing some research you begin to read about the dearth of great singers in every generation. I suspect that a 100 years from now singers like JK will be seen as the golden era. I've not heard JK live but his singing on film and record is very good. The present era is one where every performance is scrutinised, filmed (on phones) so any off nights are viewed as the beginning of the end!

I totally agree and I am tired of all these comparisons with tenors, who passed away a long time ago! I live now and I am deeply impressed by JKs voice!

And... I have to add to your comment, that there are others that are entitled to their opinion whether they prefer this or that singer better, from this time or before. And... yes, he's a good singer with a beautiful voice but I don't feel the same way you do about him. Btw... taking time to heal means bad technique or too much too soon. Salute!

This isn't even That Wild by Regie standards XD I've seen productions where I wondered how high the director was. What really made this Forza for me was the truly excellent cast and the whole Carlo/Alvaro Foe Yay in its full glory.

So true!!

enica Civelli Est-ce qu'un fois dans votre vie vous etes montée sur un scène?

Mais Di Sefano, Bergonzi, Corelli, Del Monaco, Tucker sont montés sur un scène, donc vous pouvez voir comment il doit être chantée cette aria. .

Pilar Paco, Miguel Angel de Miguel Martín, mariajo, carmen Villegas, Teresa Tomás Serrano, la difunta, gloria izquierdo mir, la, que, se, ha, ido y, no, aparece, soy Margot, mi íntima amiga maríe Terese kaufmann, me, ha, cedido su, nombre, son bombillas, apagadas, es, infernal, todo, su, mundo, jonas kaufmann, es, mi tío, directo, y, que, pase, con, el, en, ese pueblo???

JONAS KAUFMANN`S VERSION IS THE BEST. FULL OF EMOTIONS AND WITH A CONTRAST OF COLOR IN HIS DARK AND SWEET VOICE...WHAT ELSE SHOULD I ASK FOR?

I have and it's glorious but who cares!! That was then and this is now JK is a god and sings gloriously. If you prefer Corelli than listen to his recordings and don't listen to Jonas who needs this negativity

There is no point to compare. Both are great.

god, shut the fuck up, would you?

Kaufmann's ascent to the top is indicative of a dearth of satisfactory tenors on the international classical music circuit. Voice alone, he would be assigned comprimario roles were he active in the fifties. Seeing that Mexican clown is throwing in the towel after repeated throat surgeries, the establishment tries to do it all over again by manufacturing another superstar tenor, one who's only capable of singing extremely awfully but is marketable with the bearing of a matinee idol. One who's ruthlessly ambitious and willing to place utmost priority on reaching the top over everything, including the attainment of art, one who's well versed in the art of prostituting art but cares little, and probably knows nothing, about art. Of course, the establishment includes big time impresarios, opera house directors, international recording companies and critics affiliated with mass media conglomerate. He also needs to have a personality that's as affable as it's weird. Weird because he has to understand the fine art of boot-licking and abusing the hand (the fans) that feeds him in the same time. Then, a star or, more accurately, a pseudo opera singer is born. Kaufmann's groupie and that Mexican clown's are probably the most wretched people in the world because they choose a fate that's more abhorrent than reveling in drenching themselves in a tub composed of toxins and human secretion (the unsavory kind): they choose to steep themselves in self-abasement and hideousness.

no one cares.

While the works of Verdi is a genre unto itself and is generally not included in the bel canto bracket, it is still of vital significance that the main protagonists of his operas be taken by singers with an Italian approach, and who are steeped in the bel canto tradition as if to the manor born. Not that the role of Aida and her lover, Radames are exclusively the domain of Italians. Bjorling, a Swede, is a great Captain of the Egyptian army. He is also great as Manrico, Duke of Mantua and Riccardo (Bello). Leontyne price, an African-American, is sublime as the Ethiopian princess/slave. She is also tremendous as the two Leonoras (Trovatore and Forza). These two non-Italian singers succeeded not because of birthright, but because they trod the Italian repertoire with an deep-seated Italian approach and profound understanding of bel canto. And how about "La Divina", a Greek, who turns Italian opera into a greater art form than it probably is. How? By being the greatest exponent of bel canto. What's so detrimental is that not only is this faux Don Alvaro hailing from Germany deadly unidiomatic but also didn't have a clue as to what constitute bel canto.

Si Champollion resucitara tendría con su comentario para algún tiempo.

Zhiyong Mao You must be an expert living in his throat!

Actually, Di Stefano sounded quite natural, but the cost was that he sometimes (especially later) did not cover his voice. Kaufmann has different vocal issues, the artificial darkening being the most obvious one. So I am not sure about this comparison in general. Regarding this particular aria, I feel the need to say Di Stefano's version is one of the most beautiful 8 minutes of singing I have ever had the pleasure of hearing.

I think he does it intentionally to add drama to his voice. It’s one of the best features of his voice 😍

Вы, наверное, никогда не слышали эту арию в других исполнениях.

Ma che?Davvero davvero???Come disse il grande Totò in un film"Si convinca; lei é un cretino!"

@UC5UOU9DsTYyo2_QEVxY2HUQ Ascolti Corelli (dal vivo, c'è il video) e Pertile. Capirà perché Kaufmann è imbarazzante. E poi si sente proprio il suono dei microfoni che escono da ogni pertugio nel palco. Dal vivo l'ho ascoltato Kaufmann, non si sente senza supporto audio.

What do you mean by straight notes? And since it is a German habit, as you say, can you give some other examples, please?

What makes you say that? Please explain..

¿ PORQUE ESA HORRENDA PALABRA ? Debemos cuidar el lenguaje ..

@@liliacristinapohl4905 Descrivendo la vocalita' terribile e orrenda di Kaufmann si puo usare solo le parole brutte. :(

@@michelez3710..Cuidado con el lenguage . Recuerde la buena educacion en esta red . Con todo mi respeto SEÑOR ..

Not as shit as your life, Michele.

"Bitter", party of one, your table is ready...........Obviously your not capable of seeing a little good in everyone. I doubt you would recognize a good opera singer if you fell over one, let alone heard one.........You come across as a very unhappy individual. Spew your venom somewhere else!!!!!

The vocal production is as throaty as it's guttural, with distinctive register breaks. Notes off the stave are squeezed out without any build-up and in many sequence smudged. Legato is as abundant as rainfall in Sahara. Stylistically, he's all over the place in addition to the fact that he is channeling his inner Renee Fleming in that every word, every sentence is fussed and tweaked to the extent that any sense of spontaneity is lost. Those comparison to the legendary Jon Vickers by certain so-called critics is simply preposterous. The Canadian's voice is naturally produced and is employed with the greatest artistry, whereas the voice of "the most gorgeous thing on the lyric stage today" (so claimed by thousands and thousands of queens around the globe) is weirdly produced, sounding synthetic and grating.

Who died and made you God? I happen to believe Franco Corelli was one of the greatest tenors ever - and he had the good sense to retire when he was still at the top of his game. But your cruel, puerile name calling shows me that the only person steeped in toxins is you. Utterly vile.

My God, you're not only enormously unpleasant you are homophobic as well. There's no polite way of putting it to someone like you, so I shall just say it: fuck off you nasty old fart. You are the very worst example of the kind of world-class twattery that exists amongst the so-called opera cognoscenti.

causabon79's defense of this faux Alvaro is emblematic of those people who, when made aware of such revelation as that which they had held dear amounted to nothing in actuality, would snap, usually in the form of calling every name in the books, acting erratically and throwing violent tantrum at every possible opportunity. Completely unable to tear themselves from such self-abasement and hideousness they continue to revel in their gruesome situation and even try to drag other gullible and unsuspecting people into their sunken pit. It's so sad that "causabon79" has chosen such grotesquely horrendous life.

I think that was a cruel crack at Rolando Villazon. You should be ashamed of yourself.

causabon99 The only thing to be ashamed of is how impresarios, theaters and discographic companies keep on shitting on Verdi's, Puccini's, etc... masterpieces every week. To understand the rich tradition of opera and belcanto one needs a certain level of culture. Nowadays prefabricated "div@s" are for uneducated audiences. My advice for you is to search for the truth if you love this art form and think twice before clapping like a chimp, buddy.

Urk Urk

Frank Furter Since when do cultured people call others ugly names when they can use their smarts and expertise toward constructive criticism done with an air of good-will?Is it more fun being cranky and ill-mannered?🤷‍♀️

Guess where this guy comes from? Trumpland.

I thought he sang better in this Forza than in the Trovatore but I find vocal comparisons to others beyond my expertise and even if it wasn't I probably would not indulge in it. However, those who think everything JK does is great might not recognize something special.