no

😂😂😂😂😂

He will do it again on stage 7 of the 2024 TDF

Yeah 😂​@@AndrewBlack-jy1mq

Also . The one on Les planches was against an off Roglic . This was against an on pog. So it's way off

It is better, check the data, I recommend Lantern Rouge to check on that stuff

Armstrong catching ullrich in 05 was sublime

​@@karl8805 Do you seriously believe that doped ?

@@Diego-gx1znjust ignore him. He is truly a sad human being

They are not clean. Try to do what they do, it s impossible naturally

clean is my 🥚

Electric motors are the advantage now. Former pro riders have pointed out the speed of riders not matching up with the pedaling on the bicycle. And electric motors being what they accounted for the difference

@@danong9458 the bikes are x-rayed after the race, unlike during Armstrong/Landis times

@@danong9458 LOL you really believe they are putting motors in race bikes for pros in these tours?

It is when you weigh 60kg lol

@@doodoud6211 it's definitely insane regardless!

Imagine outputting 444 watts during 13 min

Roglic got 5th in that time trial, and very clearly blew up at the end… Tadej got second and was far ahead of Wout in third. That’s why it seemed a bit suspicious

I don't know where you live but almost every winner gets doping accusations. Pogi did too

@@philipp4776I agree with you here. People were also accusing Tardej Pogacar of doping when he first won TdF. People generally criticise does who are in the top of their game.

Nothing to do with fandom . Clearly uttered by a loud mouth that is ignorant of their respective race histories Nothing to do fan boy stuff ! Why do people , you don’t bother to do their research utter such nonsense ? Utter uneducated drivel . Why ? Pogacar was a winner of the Tour L’Avenir ! Jonas rode in that and came 66th !!!! He did win a team time trial stage though . A pretty strong edition too , with some many of them not ridding at pro tour level He was known for being a top rider at u20 level ! He even competed a Junior level on the international stage. Not domestic but international (the top European junior races ) Pog came third in a Junior European Championship in his season season as a junior just after winning an important Italian junior stage race , and won a stage at a very very prestigious Junior stage in the Czech Republic stage race (very important race for juniors ) . He was still eligible for junior the following year but rode at continental level (3rd level ) and at U23 level (or or less conti level) and came 7th in the one day Piccolo Giro di Lombardia (Marc Hirschi and Jay Hindley rode in that ) He wasn’t “dominant” in his first pro season, but he showed his Calibre on a poor UAE team (loads of organisation issues , see Dan Martin ) by coming 3rd in the Vuelta , his first Grand Tour race . The following year he was STILL a junior and whom the L’Avenir and came top five in decent Italian one days for Cotni earlier that season . A month after the L’Avenir he rode and won a big Italian stage race at conti level. And managing to come 7th at the world juniors in Austria (remember that horrible steep finish for the senior race ? . Hirschi won the junior race . That was a pretty fucking strong edition of the world juniors too . A lot of them guys are now at world tour level ! One month later he rode against world tour level riders (albeit lads who may not have done a lot that year eg old timers like Nico Roche and Mattie Breschel and Robert Ginsk) in the Japan Cup and got 11th . He was ALWAYS known for being a strong climber ! As for Roglic his history is well known. His TT can be hit and miss at times, it can all wrong for him . several years ago during the Froome dominance he missed out on a podium spot . But in Japan he won the Olympic ITT . There were also question marks of his ability to last a full Grand Tour eg Giro Italia that he just blew up in. He lost the TDF because of one bad day where everything went wrong for him. Alas he got some luck at his recent Giro against Gerraint Thomas who’s a fine TT man but not elite . Even then, he nearly lost that ITT due to a mechanical issue . G will kick himself for losing that . If the famous TDF ITT was ridden on another day , Rog might well have won . It just wasn’t to be As for the Danish guy, sorry. He’s Dane, not renowned climbers bar a certain Mr 60 % . Jonas simply does not have the Junior and Under 23 record that Pog has ! He struggled to finish his national championship races for fuck sake . He didn’t show a lot at youth level to merit a contract at pro level but I guess he showed that he was a good servant to the main riders, and to be fair, in his first pro year , he helped Rog win the Vuelta .

Rog had a bad day, though he had a few of them eg Giro and a previous TDF where he just failed to get podium during the final ITT, . He didn’t need to win the stage . He just collapsed On an another day, Rog might have just pipped it and won the TDF . Just one of those days. Sure he nearly lost the Giro due to band luck on the final climb in that ITT. He was lucky to have been against Gerraint Thomas that day

Not natural

@@MastaKoda You think pogi is natty?

and just an estimation

For 13 min .. what kind of dope is that 😅😅😢😢

That's because the number was incorrect.

Fairly certain someone is pouring water over him

Want to make a sport you can't just randomly level accusations of doping to?

Yes only Jonas use PED, all the other riders are clean as a whistle

What about Pogi 2020?

Looks like your the one who is living in denial.

@@simonthomsen8578proven at junior and u23 level ! And performed really well in his first pro tour season . Proven to have been a capable climber Huge difference ! On another day, Rog may not have totally collapsed and may have won the TDF . Pog might have won the stage but Rog the tour, everything went wrong for him. Even the bike change was a disaster .

​@@simonthomsen8578please check the data, pogacar did similar performance from 2020 and took almost 2 minutes from Vingegaard, both performances are not even close to be similar

If you really believe this, who follow the sport at all.

Lol he was injured thats why he was working here he was also a pro cyclist before.

Thats why this result is fishy :)

It was shown to be an inaccurate estimate

@@Shadowboost“It was shown to be inaccurate“, how exactly was that shown?

He can do it again

There are tons of video analysis of it on here. He brakes less before corners, pedals sooner out of corners and takes better lines and more risk. And he didn’t waste time changing the bike

If a single edition of a Tour can drastically change you're opinion, it's probably a pretty uneducated guess anyway. Might think it's clean again tomorrow if the sun is up.

​@@YoungGzBlitzTo pull out a minute and a half over Pogicar, who had destroyed everyone else in a TT over such a short distance is a red flag pal. One man performs consistently. The other exceeded all his previous performances by an extreme margin. Upon what basis do you claim otherwise?

7.4w for him is 444w for 13 min. Wiggens was estimated to have 440w for an hour in his hour record. 5w/kg is pretty standard for a high tempo ride for world tour pros.

7.4 W/kg was a bullshit number that was shown to be inaccurate. It's closer to 7.1

90% of the pro's been using PEDs since the 80s. Do you think after Lance got caught, it just magically ended? Only after jonas's TT did you think they might be on PED's. Not when chris froome was gapping most the GC contenders on mountain stages by over a minute. Almost all pro athletes, in general, are using drugs. I couldn't care less personally. I still watch the NFL, and MMA, even though they're all roided up.

Pogacar lost, then it must be that, lol

Cheer up, Mate

Hahahaha pogi got destroyed. I'M GONE I'M DEAD 😂

Nah it's chemical