Killing Margaret Thatcher in Doom

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Jonas Čeika - CCK Philosophy

Jonas Čeika - CCK Philosophy

2 жыл бұрын

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@lunarmagpie619
@lunarmagpie619 2 жыл бұрын
“Anyways, here’s me killing thatcher” is the new leftist “anyways here’s wonderwall”
@Catholictomherbert
@Catholictomherbert 2 жыл бұрын
I said MAY-Beeeeeeeee, you’re gonna be the one that saves me and after all, your my wonder wall.
@notthis9586
@notthis9586 2 жыл бұрын
"I said Thatcheeeer, I'm gonna be the one to wack her Cause after ALLLLL, neolibeRALLLLLLL.... (ism)"
@gizmorazaar
@gizmorazaar Жыл бұрын
I'm here for it
@AleK0451
@AleK0451 11 ай бұрын
it's not just leftists that hate thatcher, it's everyone with a functioning brain
@TerryTappArt
@TerryTappArt Жыл бұрын
I was a teenager during those days, living in the American South. My father, grandfather, and uncles were on strike. The state brought the National Guard to my father's strike and pointed machine guns at the workers, at my father. At home we starved. I dreamed that one day we'd turn that gun around and I still plan on that dream.
@quantumastrologer5599
@quantumastrologer5599 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, ain't gonna happen. Sadly...
@Karamazov9
@Karamazov9 11 ай бұрын
@@quantumastrologer5599it seems like you’re a fascist
@breadman32398
@breadman32398 11 ай бұрын
Too bad the British dont have those rights. They might have been able to resist the states use of force during the strikes.
@Karamazov9
@Karamazov9 11 ай бұрын
@@breadman32398 Why are Americans so obsessed with guns? Speaking as an American, your fantasies are based in White Supremacy. You can’t go toe to toe with the imperialist modern state, you can only deprive it of its ability to govern by working class unity, that means the whole working class not just one industry striking while the rest continues on with their lives.
@DrippyWaffler
@DrippyWaffler 2 ай бұрын
Legend
@booksandocha
@booksandocha 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, that "I'd put a stake through her heart and garlic 'round her neck to make sure she never comes back" from the old lady just tickles me inside.
@TheChilaxicle
@TheChilaxicle 2 жыл бұрын
"What a horrible thing to say on the day of her funeral" Lmao she was such a badass, absolutely no fucks given
@mrthingus
@mrthingus 2 жыл бұрын
"Too bad, too bad" Chad grandma
@matthewgagnon9426
@matthewgagnon9426 2 жыл бұрын
Based grandma saying what needed to be said.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheChilaxicle Maggie was a badass who rightly gave absolutely no fucks about that "old lady".
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgagnon9426 coward couldn't say it when she was alive.
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. In the end, neoliberalism never was about "rolling back the state" but about reorienting it towards the markets and private interests.
@F--B
@F--B 2 жыл бұрын
It was about establishing the merchant class at the top of the pyramid
@thebandofbastards4934
@thebandofbastards4934 2 жыл бұрын
@@F--B It was already estabilished in the republics that had risen. What we are seeing is that the merchants now can seize all the power from the people as there is no longer a threat to keep them in check.
@maximus4765
@maximus4765 2 жыл бұрын
You have two choices. Either the power goes to the state and you become a slave, or people naturally rise to the top and you believe yourself a slave while they don't have an army to force you into choices you don't want.
@josemvacar
@josemvacar 2 жыл бұрын
@@maximus4765 Oh my, someone hasn't heard about Coca Cola Death Squads apparently..
@orfeotracio
@orfeotracio 2 жыл бұрын
@@maximus4765 they really don t get that in every country where the State is stronger than the Market people are slave. KZfaq radical leftists from their devices and internet connection and free speech kindly offered at an affordable prize by the Global Market.
@HeskayW
@HeskayW 2 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of the existence of "Pinochestein" a Doom mod set in Chile where you have to kill Agusto Pinochet. I bet every neoliberal tyrant has a Doom mod.
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like on how “if stuff exists, then there’s a Pony of it”
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Soeharto has a Doom mod.
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Natadangsa Doom: G30S
@Natadangsa
@Natadangsa 2 жыл бұрын
@@MondySpartan How about when Malari 1974 became a huge, all-out Socialist Revolution ?
@richardfan7157
@richardfan7157 2 жыл бұрын
@@Natadangsa Was he an actual neoliberal? I thought he was just a run of the mill corrupt despot like Marcos.
@Horsthunder
@Horsthunder 2 жыл бұрын
„Anyways here‘s me killing Thatcher“ what a banger of an ending
@otto_jk
@otto_jk 2 жыл бұрын
It has that anyways here's wondewall energy
@apolloforabetterfuture4814
@apolloforabetterfuture4814 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see that Thatcher bashing bad ass old lady I wish Americans held that same sentiment towards Reagan and Bush but apparently liberals love those guys for some reason.
@JackSparrow-re4ql
@JackSparrow-re4ql 2 жыл бұрын
When have you ever heard any liberal say "Reagan was a great president", or Bush for that matter? If anyone loves those guys its conservatives, democrats, even some republicans. You are clearly mistaken.
@crashtestdolphin5884
@crashtestdolphin5884 2 жыл бұрын
Reagan in the eyes of many older fiscal/social conservatives is the paradigm of Republican and conservative values. He sold 1) the predominantly white, predominantly Western European (and therein predominantly Anglo-German) middle class a story of economic self-sufficiency and a self-image as the "makers" of American history as opposed to the "takers" (welfare queens, etc.), 2) a foreign policy nominally founded in Paleoconservative principles that was focused as much on framing American virtues as they were in painting communism as the evil empire 3) a distinct focus on moralizing and religiosity that appealed to the large sect of social conservatives who viewed the ills of contemporary American life as a failure to enforce Christianity in a Christian country. And of course, his rhetoric and posturing coincided with the fall of the Soviet Union. Many American conservatives take a victory lap for this with little acknowledgment of internal happenings and how they contributed to the collapse of the USSR.
@Kalulosu
@Kalulosu 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't you find plenty of Tory British people still liking her? I'm sure that old lady would have an equivalent cursing Reagan and/or Bush in the US.
@GB-sh9st
@GB-sh9st 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see some European talking about American politics in a highly liked comment, I brace myself for inaccuracy... Liberals don't like Reagan and they definitely don't love (either) Bush. And you misspelled Reagan's name.
@apolloforabetterfuture4814
@apolloforabetterfuture4814 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackSparrow-re4ql Michelle Obama and W. Bush are "good friends", when H.W Bush died Obama spoke at his funeral. When Nancy Reagan died Hillary praised her for having a low key and good response to the AIDS crisis. Yeah no shit democratic voters don't like these people that's because the Democratic party doesn't represent its own voters. But when Reagan died and there was a days long funeral procession neary a peep from people, when George H.W Bush dies neary a peep on the damage he did while head of the CIA, he gets called "a good statesman" people aren't engaged and don't hold their politicians accountable in my country period. I'm not saying the UK is perfect by any means but from our vantage point Brits and Europeans more broadly are just better at democracy and fighting for it.
@OmgEinfachNurOmg
@OmgEinfachNurOmg 2 жыл бұрын
Finally the channel comes back to its roots. Absurd on the outside, thoughtful on the inside
@user-sl6gn1ss8p
@user-sl6gn1ss8p 2 жыл бұрын
It even made me rewatch the shrek video : )
@anneallison6402
@anneallison6402 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-sl6gn1ss8p hahaha i was about to do the same
@hikaru-senpai3684
@hikaru-senpai3684 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi
@jaredd4307
@jaredd4307 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see a fellow kiwi here
@julianshields4871
@julianshields4871 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwis unite! Hey, guys!
@hayk3000
@hayk3000 2 жыл бұрын
It's just absolutely fantastic to live in a world where you can wake up in the morning greeted with a title like this on your phone.
@Seahawksfan122
@Seahawksfan122 2 жыл бұрын
That's neoliberalism for you baby
@Altropos
@Altropos Жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis on neoliberalism. Thanks for this. "I'd put a stake through her heart and garlic around her neck to make sure she never comes back". "That's a horrible thing to say while her funeral is going on." "too bad, too bad". Absolutely magnificent old lady.
@bugsephbunnin4576
@bugsephbunnin4576 2 жыл бұрын
Chilean here, I have to make a correction. Pinochet regime didn't tortured about ten thousands, it was about a hundred thousands.
@sarcasmenul
@sarcasmenul Жыл бұрын
It probably is far higher
@arazatliyev6564
@arazatliyev6564 11 ай бұрын
Dude,n*sists didnt death 6.000.000 Jewish,they dead 500.000 jewish...having not different,main is that that have death humans...main result is that look...
@raphsere
@raphsere 2 жыл бұрын
One hilarious thing I remember about this mod is me checking some reactionnary video game reddit and seeing a really popular post that said "MFW feminists are celebrating a video game about shooting a woman (the first female Prime Minister in UK history, who decriminalized homosexuality)". They really have the strangest and most deluded "gotchas!" of all.
@jmasters7515
@jmasters7515 2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t decriminalise homosexuality that was Harold Wilson, in fact she passed a law which made it illegal to mention homosexuality in educational institutions
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmasters7515 she voted for it under Wilson. Also Wilson didn't extend decriminalisation beyond England and Wales, but she did.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmasters7515 as for that law you mention, both houses of Parliament passed it.
@subalternprecariat
@subalternprecariat 2 жыл бұрын
@@myoctobersymphony4446 "as for that law you mention, both houses of Parliament passed it" Of course both houses of Parliament passed it, that's what makes it a statute in the UK. That's what makes it a law. "she voted for it under Wilson. Also Wilson didn't extend decriminalisation beyond England and Wales, but she did." This was in the face of the LGBT+ rights movement who pushed for the decrim covered in the Sexual Offences Act 1967 to be extended across the entirety of the UK. The Northern Ireland decrim in particular came as a result of a gay man appealing to the European Court of Human Rights (the body that decides on legislation in EU countries, Thatcher of course is well-known for her feelings on the EU) It was the product of organised pressure for the state to change its treatment of LGBT+ people, not Thatcher's good will. These campaigns took place in both Labour and Conservative governments) Thatcher went out of her way to undermine the rights offered to LGBT people in the 1967 act, with the aforementioned law banning local authorities to provide education on same-sex couples. It was called Section 28, and she signalled to the social conservatives that made the core base of her support and part of her traditionalist platform in a speech in 1987 in Conservative Party Conference rejecting the notion that people "have an inalienable right to be gay". Homosexuality was framed as a personal habit or even a product of the so-called "permissive society" gone too far. Section 28, which was in force in 1988, was also part of a wider assault on local authorities' independence from central government, as many of them, particularly around metropolitan areas, were seen as Labour strongholds, and therefore a space for socially progressive politics. I would strongly encourage anyone who comes away with this idea that Thatcher was a force for good for the LGBT+ community in the UK, to really familiarise themselves with British LGBT+ history and British politics, look up any film or series that chronicles the lives of LGBT people in the UK in the 1980s, or literally look up any statement from LGBT+ British famous people who were old enough to live though the Thatcher years. There's a reason why the LGBT+ movement showed immense solidarity with the NUM miners strike, culminating in the group "Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners".
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@subalternprecariat she had nothing against gay people and personally had almost nothing to do with Section 28, which was a backbench amendment that passed both houses with support from Labour in the Lords. She never once referred to that law in any of her speeches, that quote you refer to was made before it was made into law and even then she wasn't talking about such a policy.
@KonkeyVG
@KonkeyVG Жыл бұрын
Death Stranding is the only game I know of which attempts to examine the neoliberal process of social atomisation. You are a porter who alone carry on your back the task of rebuilding the USA from the ashes of its own self-destructive tendency. Your primary interactions with others is via holograms, your conversation is purely transactional, you understand these people not by their name but via their utility to you (Engineer, Junk Dealer, Roboticist). Protagonist Sam Bridge's alienation manifests medically with his aphenphosmphobia, socially via his lack of contact with others, and in his labour, as the reward for a good job is deliberately immaterial.
@tomio8072
@tomio8072 11 ай бұрын
Damn, I just watched videogamedunkey and laughed at the game, I hadn't actually thought about it, but this makes so much sense
@cannabidivarin
@cannabidivarin 2 жыл бұрын
clicked the video for quick laughs thinking it was a meme came out appreciating this absolute banger
2 жыл бұрын
For real I was suddenly like: history lesson with doom music? let's go
@vecvecvec
@vecvecvec 2 жыл бұрын
true of a lot of the videos on this channel tbh
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
@shytendeakatamanoir9740 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even questioning it. It just made sense intuitively.
@alexrexaros9837
@alexrexaros9837 Жыл бұрын
Doom Guy being a descendant of B.J. Blazkowitz is non-canon. Tom Hall said it, and he practically left the team at the worst possible moment and served as no one but an idea guy. Romero said Doom Guy is supposed to be YOU. And no one else. That or the Doom Slayer, as you wish.
@PunishedFelix
@PunishedFelix 2 жыл бұрын
Also on your commentary about video games. The reason why these rose so rapidly during neoliberal times as well was because they were not just an effective form of diversification of products but actually function as embedded propaganda. For example, a video game, being a world completely privatized and owned by the creators, allows for the production of literature like Nintendo Power or the production of mass simulated subjectification as seen with "PokeMania", strategies exploited later through nostalgia. Games later were used as direct propaganda tools, especially Call of Duty, who transformed the shooter genre from shooting Nazis and Demons into active political propaganda and normalization of US military activity. I personally think games can ve something more than this but there is no question that fascist neoliberalism and video game market are bed mates. Video games literally "program" expectations into their interfaces as well. They are often the source of now widely used UI elements such as navigation of 2D or 3D spaces. DOOM had a significant impact on software rendering as much as it did in gaming, because it produced a meaningful user interface for people. Thus the production of commercial video games also exists to smooth the barrier of communication between mass produced machines and these programmable interfaces. Amazon and other companies have already been exploiting these developments in UI for ages. It's why they're all so interested in some of that gamer pie themselves.
@anneallison6402
@anneallison6402 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think neoliberalism is fascist! I like fascism a lot and I think they have drastically different ideological roots, fascism is more binded to romanticism and it is in a way a form of antimodernism
@PunishedFelix
@PunishedFelix 2 жыл бұрын
@@anneallison6402 cool story bro
@Bisquick
@Bisquick 2 жыл бұрын
​@@anneallison6402 Heidegger...is that you?? Let's lay off the "dasein" a bit... But seriously, I guess with an abstract/nebulous enough conception of it, sure, "romantic", but I don't think it's a coincidence the essence of that romanticism is based in ultranationalism, if we look at the historical material conditions out of which it emerged, ie if we look beyond the superstructure of postmodern embrace that theoretically comprises the cultural sphere, we can see that it takes this ultranationalist form precisely because a military keynesianism keeps perpetuating the existing mode of production" and leaves power relations/class in tact. In other words it's no coincidence it ends up as a thanatos imperialism as that military industrial complex is required to generate that "romantic" nationalistic sense of meaning while preserving the current social order, specifically its ideological alignment toward "the suppression of the left amidst popular enthusiasm" as Robert Paxton puts it in the Anatomy of Fascism. So, if that made sense lol, do we see how that inevitable process, grounded more materially (what capital will allow essentially) trends towards exactly what PunishedFelix is saying? I think Carl Schmitt tried to make what I _think_ is your point, in "defending 'the political' - friend/enemy distinction - from a Liberal global dictatorship" but to me either of these options are unsustainable death spirals distinct only in their authenticity/aesthetic. Seems to me the only actual choice for humanity is the same one espoused by Rosa Luxemburg in 1918 Germany, uncoincidentally executed by the SPD's coordination of the freikorps paramilitary (later formalizing into the SS, oopsies; only pointing out to try to highlight the inevitable tendency towards "fascism" of ultranationalist imperialism to maintain the material relations/social order): socialism or [continued] barbarism.
@Bisquick
@Bisquick 2 жыл бұрын
Reminded me of some guy, _"A philosopher produces ideas, a poet poems, a clergyman sermons, a professor compendia and so on. A criminal produces crimes. If we take a closer look at the connection between this latter branch of production and society as a whole, we shall rid ourselves of many prejudices. The criminal produces not only crimes but also criminal law, and with this also the professor who gives lectures on criminal law and in addition to this the inevitable compendium in which this same professor throws his lectures onto the general market as “commodities”_ - some guy, Theories of Surplus Value
@PunishedFelix
@PunishedFelix 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bisquick I think what makes video games interesting is that they are very material in how we interact with them. They represent not just the closed off interface of a television but also a specific material interaction between not only all modes of its production but the production of the game itself between the user and UI. The direct interaction with the game produces a material relationship and this is already being actively exploited in non-gaming scenarios (specifically many types of UI involving 3D rendering, navigation or user control are very influenced by games). Likewise, UI developments in the workplace also influence games. (Most famously the "Windows" of most operating systems, both as a constraint of development and as a borrowed influence). Both reflect off each other and produce a more and more refined interface for conducting labor. This is a large reason why we transitioned to service economy - we are employing people who can navigate these interfaces. In fact, accessibility (the trend of making tools more usable for disabled people) exists in neoliberal lore for the sole reason that it changes material relations between workers, consumers and certain kinds of bodies previously omitted from capitalist intercourse. This can historically be observed by analyzing how accessibility has evolved in the last 50 years. And guess who now suddenly cares about accessibility 😂 If anything, games mark a sudden departure from post modernism, back into the world of machines. The language game bullcrap blows up and exposes itself. But games are also so incredibly socially powerful that they can completely change the way we interact with labor.
@WiwuX
@WiwuX 2 жыл бұрын
I think while you're right about the text in Doom saying that the world is saved by an extraordinary individual. There's something to be said for the sort of metatextual experience of taking part in "sending Margaret Thatcher back to hell" as something that we all take part in. The billboards in her boss fight even say that it's dedicated to everyone who hates Margaret Thatcher as much as you. I think as a mod it sells itself on the idea that now everyone takes part in sending Margaret Thatcher to hell, rather than it feeling like a solitary endeavour.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
How utterly pathetic and sad as fuck.
@WiwuX
@WiwuX 2 жыл бұрын
@@myoctobersymphony4446 Preach, sister
@Ricky-Spanish
@Ricky-Spanish 2 жыл бұрын
It's like you were in cinematic training montage for the past year and you've now come back, stronger and more powerful than ever.
@pharmakon7920
@pharmakon7920 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God this is the crossover I never thought I would see. I've been following the guys who were involved in making this game for years. They are relatively unknown their videos and podcasts only get a few thousand views each. Loved both them and you for years, can't explain how weird it is to hear you say their names. Big shout out to Jim, Barry, Guy, Findlay and everyone else involved!
@japoonboals718
@japoonboals718 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your excitement, I love your passion, this was a great video, Fuck Margaret Thatcher, and I hope you have a lovely day
@christian2i
@christian2i 2 жыл бұрын
Would you like to point me towards their unknown podcast and videos?
@albertcamus1995
@albertcamus1995 2 жыл бұрын
I too, would desire this podcast friend
@callumrobertson7541
@callumrobertson7541 2 жыл бұрын
@@albertcamus1995 I'm guessing they're talking about 2 Good Boys? The composer Barry co-hosts that
@CaiqueBrite
@CaiqueBrite 2 жыл бұрын
While the neoliberal project begun so early in England and USA, my country (Brazil) is suffering in this very same moment with the destruction of everything in the hands of Bolsonaro along with our military, our elite and their neoliberalism.
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox Жыл бұрын
Not like Lula, Dilma and their corrupt regime we're doing much better, Brazil needs to kill their politician elite to get out the hole
@rifkinr4660
@rifkinr4660 2 жыл бұрын
Yall, the monsters are in the house of commons?! That’s wild
@jamesgrover2005
@jamesgrover2005 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are.. still
@zongaaa6673
@zongaaa6673 2 жыл бұрын
*_featuring a gigantic custom-made map set in the 10th layer of hell, also known as the united kingdom_* instant 10/10
@mooglywoogle4264
@mooglywoogle4264 2 жыл бұрын
"There is no such thing as a society"- margaret Thatcher "There is no such thing as margaret thatcher"- doom
@thrashmetaldad
@thrashmetaldad 2 жыл бұрын
🤣👏
@gabbar51ngh
@gabbar51ngh Жыл бұрын
Yet neoliberalism lives on and so does the legacy of thatcherism despite how much socialists hate her.
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 2 жыл бұрын
The miners strike was a disaster but as much Scargill's fault as Thatchers. He allowed the miners before the strke to work overtime to build up coal reserves and then called the strike in spring when coal use would fall as the weather warms up. Previous strikes were preceded by overtime bans and other actions to reduce coal reserves and then called in autumn so to hit winter with coal running low..... Also the mines had to close anyway because of the acid rain problem was wiping out most northern European forestry. So if the miners won the strike they'd still be out of work in a few years later, coal was no-longer a viable form of fuel.
@t3649
@t3649 2 жыл бұрын
Thatcher is still evil
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@t3649 she fought Scargill's evil.
@spritualelitist665
@spritualelitist665 2 жыл бұрын
Thatcher was based and better than the trash we have now. He’s right about the miners. I work with ex miners myself and actually agreed with Thatcher and would take her in a heartbeat over what we have now. At least she was competent. Ruthless but effective. Plus most of the British left back then were very socially conservative unlike the absolute shite show liberal Labour we have now. I blame the new gen for destroying the left for the working class. If the working class rose up now it would be the bourgeois lefty’s that would be strung up first that’s the irony. The rancid Owen Jones types I was surrounded by at College. Midwit IQ Champagne socialists.
@chriss780
@chriss780 2 жыл бұрын
@@spritualelitist665 lol you say you support old school socialists... but then love Thatcher? fuck off
@spritualelitist665
@spritualelitist665 2 жыл бұрын
I would take a Stalinist like regime in UK to help clear out the dead weight.
@TheDecatonkeil
@TheDecatonkeil 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's so special that we have a subset of KZfaq that includes the likes of you, Renegade Cut (more the old videos than the new ones), Threadbare Inc. ... I miss MrBtongue... I suppose it must be very hard to make content like this, that marries so well the frivolousness of pop culture with a deep analysis of philosophy and politics. When they talk about KZfaq, streamers and social media on TV, you know what to expect: the kind of youtubers and influencers I don't give two shits about. This is where it's at. I so wish that there was content of this quality in Spanish so I could share more (there are a few, but are usually met with less refined audiences that don't grant massive following and end up quitting disilusioned).
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 2 жыл бұрын
We're in hell also does this really well. Starts off with a reality TV show and then he links it to surveillance capitalism.
@GB-sh9st
@GB-sh9st 2 жыл бұрын
Try Noah Caldwell Gervais -- a LOT of superior content of the kind you're looking for. I miss BTongue, too. He writes a blog somewhere... maybe worth looking that up too.
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 2 жыл бұрын
@@GB-sh9st With all due respect. Noah-Caldwell-Gervais does great critiques of games and he highlights social and political issues if they are related to a topic and explores them but these explorations are incidental and not the primary goal. The goal is a critique and the exploration of social and political issues is incidental. The goal for other channels mentioned is the exploration of social and political issues and the critique is incidental, entirely dependant on the discussion of aforementioned issues.
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you think the newer RC videos do not qualify? The Westwing video seems to fit that mold pretty well.
@chescokun
@chescokun 2 жыл бұрын
DayoScript, PutoMikel, Historia de la Filosofia con Amilcar Paris Mandoki, Alba Lafarga, SizeMatters and Angela Vicario are good places for leftists en español, la mayoria españoles eso si, even Inna Afinogenova fills a niche similar to Democracy Now, Vox or AJ+ in spanish.
@gabrielrobinson1279
@gabrielrobinson1279 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd be so threatened by footage of Margaret Thatcher with the Doom soundtrack playing
@Durrutitv
@Durrutitv 2 жыл бұрын
"I'd put a stake through her heart and garlic around her neck, make sure she never comes back." Lady, I fucking love you.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
She wouldn't know the meaning of the word.
@Dandus_TF
@Dandus_TF Жыл бұрын
DOOM actually has Co-op play as well, so the only way you interact with other people is not actually just Deathmatch.
@KozelPraiseGOELRO
@KozelPraiseGOELRO 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't he talk about just the mod?
@Dandus_TF
@Dandus_TF 4 ай бұрын
@@KozelPraiseGOELRO No. In the section I commented on (around 18:34), he is talking about DOOM in general.
@Devilot109
@Devilot109 2 жыл бұрын
The original Doom actually had a co-op mode, it just... was never nearly as popular, to the point some people see to think Halo invented multiplayer co-op in FPSes. Doesn't hugely impact any of your arguments, just felt like bringing that up.
@user-wl2xl5hm7k
@user-wl2xl5hm7k 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jonas. I want to point out that you didn’t mention an important distinction for video games as “commodities”. So Pears soap is something that can be mass produced and is just made from physical substance. Video games, on the other hand, require the monopolies granted under (IP) intellectual “property”, specifically copyright-monopolies. The physical substance is (was) the cartridges and discs, but those are extremely cheap. Copyright-monopolies are what makes video games expensive. The IP-monopolies are what allow video games to become a massively profitable & oppressive industry. Thus we must fully abolish IP-monopolies as soon as possible.
@threethrushes
@threethrushes 2 жыл бұрын
The ability to commercialise IP is what gives inventors/entrepreneurs the financial incentive to bring new things to market. I'm not sure what you are arguing against here? The concept of IP itself?
@user-wl2xl5hm7k
@user-wl2xl5hm7k 2 жыл бұрын
@@threethrushes IP is not a concept. IP is an actual legal structure that is incredibly oppressive to the working class, artists and inventors. Don’t just look up intellectual property in the dictionary and call it a day. The dictionary definition of IP is basically pure propaganda from the most powerful of the capitalist class. You have to do a little more research to learn how IP laws actually function
@user-wl2xl5hm7k
@user-wl2xl5hm7k 2 жыл бұрын
@@threethrushes We need to educate all leftists about this essential point: IP is not property in any sense. 99% of the leftists I’ve come across don’t yet understand this. Broadly, intellectual ‘property’ are government granted monopolies that ban everyone else from using their own property, and matter in general, in particular ways. So IP is clearly not property or even capital. IP is monopoly over everyone else’s own property. So IP is way worse than property, commodities, capital or any means of production: IP is anti-property.
@user-wl2xl5hm7k
@user-wl2xl5hm7k 2 жыл бұрын
@@threethrushes The 2008 economics book ‘Against Intellectual Monopoly’ and the 2001 essay ‘Against Intellectual Property’ are both as important as Marx’s ‘Capital’! Each has nearly flawless argumentation. All leftists need to read both (free online). If you can’t read them now, then write down both titles so you can tell others so they can read them.
@user-wl2xl5hm7k
@user-wl2xl5hm7k 2 жыл бұрын
@@threethrushes “Against Intellectual Monopoly” gathers all the empirical data that humanity has on IP laws and the conclusion is clear: IP laws do not promote innovation.
@schnetzator
@schnetzator 2 жыл бұрын
I always wait until I hear the name Tendies123 before closing the video. This has been a thing for years now.
@fadedgames1
@fadedgames1 2 жыл бұрын
This was sooooo bloody interesting! I did not expect to be both entertained and learn so much from this one doom video that talks about some random mod.
@TheSuperLegoMan100
@TheSuperLegoMan100 2 жыл бұрын
The best argument against "capitalism breeds innovation" is the modding community. Also an excellent summary of Thatcher and her legacy.
@mouwersor
@mouwersor 2 жыл бұрын
No one said you couldn't be innovative when you're not getting paid for it... But it sure does help regarding grand-scale ideas. A modder is a single individual. Try getting a whole company to make something when they all also want their needs met. To do that efficiently you want profit incentives.
@necrosteel5013
@necrosteel5013 2 жыл бұрын
@@mouwersor money isn't something a communist understands
@brandonborgerding182
@brandonborgerding182 2 жыл бұрын
@@mouwersor that's why their needs should be met regardless tho lol
@mouwersor
@mouwersor 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonborgerding182 With whose labour? Making mods for doom is not the sort of labour I want to toil away for in a harder job; it does not benefit me in the slightest and I don't think it benefits society as a whole enough for me to work for it. So do you want to force others to provide for the needs for the projects YOU deem important? Or do you want individuals to be able to choose whether they provide the needs for specific projects and if that's the case: yeah it's called capitalism.
@brandonborgerding182
@brandonborgerding182 2 жыл бұрын
@@mouwersor I got to be honest, I don't know what it is your trying to convey.
@coneman_is_crazy
@coneman_is_crazy Жыл бұрын
She has come back for scotlands milk
@OjoRojo40
@OjoRojo40 2 жыл бұрын
Another good example is Motion Twin, a worker cooperative enterprise based in Bordeaux, France. The creators of one of the best games in recent years Dead Cells.
@smc9207
@smc9207 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I was surprised when I found that out accidentally on wiki
@Tizze87
@Tizze87 2 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Startet to watch when I was a student in political science, and have now a master in it. Keep up the good work! And congratz on the book, reading it as we speak.
@jackvac1918
@jackvac1918 2 жыл бұрын
15:37 For some political economic background of the era that directly predated the neoliberal revolution, the 1970's, was a turbulent decade for economies in the West punctuated by a number of crises (e.g. the 1973 OPEC energy crisis, the Nixon shock) with an overarching shadow of a slowdown in economic growth, low investment, high inflation and unemployment (the decaying British empire was particularly hard-hit, culminating in a wave of turmoil and strikes in the year before Thatcher's ascendancy). A major reason behind this can be traced back to the relations between capital and labour at the time, in which labour had a powerful bargaining position to negotiate wages and benefits. This resulted in a profit squeeze for capital which in turn tried to raise it's profit margins by raising prices and in doing so reducing real wages (resulting in an inflationary spiral as labour fought back to keep their gains), and generally discouraged the investment that economic growth is reliant upon. The turn to neoliberalism could thus be seen in a broader political economic lens as the response to this decade of crisis, seeking to resolve it not only by crippling the bargaining power of labour in Western economies through breaking up unions, increasing precarity, and exploiting cheaper labour in poor countries by facilitating cross-border capital flows, but also creating new avenues for capitalists to extract profit by privatising public assets. No examination of neoliberalism is complete without examining its ideological aspects though, notably the thinkers of the Mont Pellerin Society like Hayek, Mises, and Friedman, and I really recommend the _This is Neoliberalism_ series of @BarakalypseNow which is an excellent series that goes in-depth into the history and evolution of neoliberal ideology.
@anonimo57354
@anonimo57354 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought that i needed so much context for a single doom mod and you know what? i'm thankfull for it
@RazorFringe2
@RazorFringe2 2 жыл бұрын
Are YOU interested in the history of first-person shooters as well as some loose sociological commentary on their contemporary development? Then i highly recommend the "Children of Doom" series by Errant Signal!
@findlayhannam849
@findlayhannam849 Жыл бұрын
Hey I hope you're getting a resurgence on this thanks to JC!
@hat-eating-cthulu-goat3221
@hat-eating-cthulu-goat3221 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you're making videos again!
@BartWronsk
@BartWronsk 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely amazing video, I laughed many times (in a good way, from using pop culture references in absurd but accurate ways). It’s also pretty good for games industry accuracy - saying this as someone who worked 8 years in game dev on some AAAs. To how the Doom guy represents atomization (…and alienation?) I’d add that John Carmack himself is a hardcore libertarian, well meaning, but also extremely naive and sometimes radical.
@CampusBoyFeet
@CampusBoyFeet 2 жыл бұрын
I love the end of this video. I did not see the title actually being in the video. Great video.
@sense_maker1816
@sense_maker1816 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your book Jonas, keep it up man!
@SkodaUFOInternational
@SkodaUFOInternational Жыл бұрын
I always forgot how much rewatch potential your vids have fam
@WorldCupWillie
@WorldCupWillie 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a documentary about the Miner's strike. Apparently she told the BBC to edit the footage of The battle of Oregreen to suggest that the Miners started the violence, when it was the Police who charged the Miners first.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
The striking miners were picketing illegally.
@raynegallaher7661
@raynegallaher7661 2 жыл бұрын
@@myoctobersymphony4446 *picketing illegally*. Why, exactly, was the picketing illegal? Because it sounds to me like it's only illegal because the government wanted to legislate away any power from the unions, so they would've made any impactful ways to picket illegal. The illegality of an act is not justification for violent suppression of any meaningful dissent.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@raynegallaher7661 they simply had no right to picket, the High Court of Justice found the strike to be unlawful.
@raynegallaher7661
@raynegallaher7661 2 жыл бұрын
@@myoctobersymphony4446 "it's illegal cuz guvment said so" I'm done with this conversation. No amount of heimlich manuevers will get enough boots out of your throat for you to breathe.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
@@raynegallaher7661 no idiot, it's illegal because the independent judiciary said so.
@amanofnoreputation2164
@amanofnoreputation2164 Жыл бұрын
"Your job is to send Margaret Thatcher to Hell." But isn't the whole point of the game the fact that you're already in _England_ hell? How can you send her to a place she already is?
@channel-su2di
@channel-su2di 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation. Mark Fisher would have been proud. :)
@davidjazay9248
@davidjazay9248 Жыл бұрын
"Ding dong, the witch is dead, ding dong, the wicked witch is dead." T´was a sweet moment in time.
@keithsimpson2685
@keithsimpson2685 2 жыл бұрын
How old were you when you realized "MAg Uruk Thraka" from Warhammer is also a thatcher ref?
@NathanHenriquefa
@NathanHenriquefa 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I wasn’t expecting for such deep analysis on a Doom video
@Rafael-nq2ob
@Rafael-nq2ob 2 жыл бұрын
sublime and amazing commentary. cheers
@Fernando-sr5sq
@Fernando-sr5sq 2 жыл бұрын
Not incidentally, there’s an old Doom mod called Pinochestein 3D
@nicholaszacharewicz693
@nicholaszacharewicz693 2 жыл бұрын
I've never squirmed during a video essay before. But as soon as you mentioned video games in general in this video about neoliberalism's emergence in the 80s, I grimaced. 👀 But it's a connection that does make a lot of sense.
@tacticalcoffee
@tacticalcoffee 2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely creative, thank you!
@spacejesusadventure
@spacejesusadventure 2 жыл бұрын
Just dropping in to say your new book is totally sensational, I cannot put it down
@sashaboydcom
@sashaboydcom 2 жыл бұрын
"Anyway, here's me killing Thatcher" -- perfect ending to a fantastic video 😂
@StoryDood
@StoryDood 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, this video is great but actually when DOOM released its default multi-player mode was (and is on most sourceports and even the unity release) co-op, you had to select to start a deathmatch game, which I think says something more than if deathmatch was the only multi-player mode, as people actively chose to fight against each other Instead of with each other against a common enemy. Other than that, great video my guy.
@deadsi
@deadsi 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, had my fill of doom mods, thank God and the queen I kept watching
@scattaredlight
@scattaredlight 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect a video like this… I don’t know why but it was interesting! 🖤🖤🖤
@TheJayman213
@TheJayman213 2 жыл бұрын
woah, that was eye-opening... as usual 👌
@smhsophie
@smhsophie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm usually not your biggest fan but this is a great video, keep it up
@disfuncionexe
@disfuncionexe Жыл бұрын
based video, the initial subject and the way you connected everything was fun to watch. I like the ideas you provided about social atomization, do you know of any books or papers on the topic and how it relates to capitalism as a whole and recent changes in capitalism?
2 жыл бұрын
Im glad you are back
@screane5739
@screane5739 2 жыл бұрын
Doomguy The II: **stabs Imperton** Imperton: AH FOCK! 'As a bit rude innit mate!?
@tonyburton419
@tonyburton419 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative summation, even if it meant having to remember her. Would you assert that Liberalism and Capitalisms love child was inevitably Neo-Liberalism? And that this would also mean a major shift towards the right, and an increasing movement of authoritarianism, offering (especially in UK, Brazil, USA etc) as offering solutions to the major problems it has created. This also requires some elements of Marx's false consciousness as still being relevant ,
@samson136
@samson136 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna be a gameplay video, im not dissapointed lmao
@abhiroopdas3232
@abhiroopdas3232 2 жыл бұрын
I think this might be one of my favourite videos by you. Also, will u make a video in the future expanding on your statement that individual freedom can only be attained by collective social life. Much appreciated.
@brucekendall9873
@brucekendall9873 10 ай бұрын
Omg ive tried to explain this SO many times to conservative gamers, which is most if them. All their beleifs about games are super anti capitalist and exploitation, etc. But they have no idea all their views reflect leftist ideals. And then still stick with defending conservative neoliberalism and capitalism etc. Its funny how when someone cares about something enough they all end up with the right answers but they can't see the bigger picture. They're literally always talking about making communities, independent games and supporting them, free games and no profit motives, and getting rid of so many things that scream they are left leaning and know whats right at heart.
@lazula
@lazula 8 ай бұрын
I look forward to your MyHouse video :)
@uriahhammock3731
@uriahhammock3731 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how it’s done, real solidarity
@whysocurious7366
@whysocurious7366 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is a game that is needed.
@anarchoautism
@anarchoautism 2 жыл бұрын
I've played a lot of Doom while listening to your videos
@rodrigosoto4827
@rodrigosoto4827 2 жыл бұрын
The mention of Pinochet in this video reminded me of a quote by Chile's recently elected president: "Chile was the cradle of neoliberalism, it will now be its tomb". Let's hope he's right.
@feistygheisty1980
@feistygheisty1980 2 жыл бұрын
Jonas going full gamer video essay Andy. Powerful.
@qqwweerrttiill
@qqwweerrttiill 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved the idea of things like the game developers united(or whatever it was called) referenced in the video. The problem I always encounter, both when thinking of these ideas and arguing them, is how to manage such a thing as the very important job of dealing with all the sewage and human waste for example. For sure not a job most (if any?) people _want_ to do compared to such a thing as writing a book or making a painting. How does a system like the one brought up in the video deal with issues like this (jobs no one wants to do)? It seems everytime i see arguments about this there is never an answer because the examples that are brought up are always low hanging fruits like jobs that people can be so passionate about that they could even imagine doing for free.
@neighbourhoodmusician
@neighbourhoodmusician 2 жыл бұрын
00:12 Never have I heard somebody describe the modern UK quite so accurately. I laughed very loudly and then realised that I live here, thereby making myself feel bad.
@neighbourhoodmusician
@neighbourhoodmusician 2 жыл бұрын
@A pale horse approaches... ....and surely it is not.
@darkelwin02
@darkelwin02 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting analysis
@OneCSeven
@OneCSeven 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the cool upload
@selkokieli843
@selkokieli843 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing.
@matthewgagnon9426
@matthewgagnon9426 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great map, even if it was something I had to struggle with in order to finish since I suck at Doom.
@ChuuniMaster
@ChuuniMaster Жыл бұрын
This video was a masterpiece
@burner9147
@burner9147 2 жыл бұрын
great video friend you got a new subscriber
@Fenrisson
@Fenrisson 3 ай бұрын
21:50 - That music is amazing.
@burner9147
@burner9147 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, she returned from hell. TRUE EVIL NEVER DIES
@konstantinosmavrias3160
@konstantinosmavrias3160 2 жыл бұрын
Loved it.
@generalfishcake
@generalfishcake 2 жыл бұрын
The Union Aerospace Corporation logo is reminiscent of the Peacekeeper logo from Farscape, which was inspired by Russian rebolutionary art from 1919 (by El Lissitzky)
@anzoom7976
@anzoom7976 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this video, but could you please list your sources so i can use them for future discussions? Either way good job on the video :)
@LogicGated
@LogicGated 2 жыл бұрын
This title probably eviscerated the KZfaq algo
@magicznykokos7407
@magicznykokos7407 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am curious what's your opinion on Foucault's characteristic of [neo]liberalism (one which can be found in - for example - his lectures "Birth of the biopolitics") and on voices that in the end Foucault himself has turned into a liberal
@DerRazzman
@DerRazzman 2 жыл бұрын
best doom video i have ever seen
@pedrongreen
@pedrongreen 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I've ever seen on KZfaq, not even joking. Absurd yet super informative and entertaining. Thank you for this.
@theforcefor
@theforcefor 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video :)
@SSJKamui
@SSJKamui 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your video. Almost COmpletely. I might add. Thatcher was also one of the most prominent figures of an alignment between neoliberal forces and certain branches of feminism. Many prominent "feminist politicians" rising to power in the 1990s can even be said to have copied the Thatcher model. (This might be the reason why these politicians extremely often were in fact part of the COnservative CDU and not part of the left.) Even Alice Schwarzer, a friend of Simone de Beauvoir now frequently aligns herself with neoliberal conservatives. And to be honest, there are strangely many policies who have a neoliberal core, and at the same time an outward appeareance of a kinda feminist perspective. Basically selling the free market as a means for empowerment, emancipation and independence. (And a few times, in advertising, corporations nowadays describe shitty, degrading jobs done mostly by poor immigrant women, in a language of feminist empowerment. This is especially weird.) In a certain way, these neoliberal feminists are the successors of what Max Weber said about the protestant work ethic. This is especially ironic because many past time feminists have been anti capitalist and saw a link between capitalism and patriarchy. No one of these would have stated that capitalism is a way to overcome patriarchy.
@HamidKarzai
@HamidKarzai 2 жыл бұрын
Great content
@CopelandMeister
@CopelandMeister 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I like that you brought a much-needed historicism to your critique of neoliberalism. Thatcher was responding to genuine crises in the UK's Keynesian welfare state, and actually improved certain economic conditions by capitalist standards (to be clear: not defending the Pinochet shit!). That is the whole problem, after all - Keynesianism and neoliberalism are equally capitalistic in nature, both engender their own characteristic crises and thus necessitate their own overcoming. That overcoming can be achieved within the frame of capitalism itself - as Thatcher did with Keynesianism in the 80s - or, I hope, capitalism itself can be overcome.
@shakie6074
@shakie6074 2 жыл бұрын
Fuckin incredibly well done my friend.
@rarex50484
@rarex50484 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly, not enough has been said about this obscene life.
@myoctobersymphony4446
@myoctobersymphony4446 2 жыл бұрын
What life?
@GloriaInvictis
@GloriaInvictis 2 жыл бұрын
An example of an anti-atomized game is Tonight We Riot, made by a game dev collective.
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 2 жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate the fact the creator were cooperatives and the game itself is explicitly about anti-capitalism. I think alot of people would interpret it as too on the nose instead of successfully promoting anti-hypercapitalist ideals.
@GloriaInvictis
@GloriaInvictis 2 жыл бұрын
@@krunkle5136 I disagree. Many people need things spelled out for them. Besides, they're other, non-explicit anti-capitalist games made by cooperatives, like Orphan Age.
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 2 жыл бұрын
@@GloriaInvictis Orphan Age is definitely a step up. My thought is spelling something out can leave open the possibility of right wingers pointing it out and calling it propoganda. I'm more of a fan of the studio Ghibli approach and having the ideal society, of workers treated fairly in possibly coops, playing out in the background with the main story and characters being the focus, whether or not the main story has anything to do with theory. Positive examples, rather than painting a portrait of the big bad. The following gets more ranty: I think the problem I had with Tonight We Riot is that it had a straw manning thing going on. The real thing isn't a cartoon, but a system with members carrying out their interests, especially in a way that holds growth as god, and them simply being unaware of how irresponsible the police are and the sheer amount of parking lots. They're still human, and the ideal is they're taxed and reforms are carried out peacefully in a way where no one is dehumanized. It's too easy to seek emotion and catharsis, instead of following the sober trudge that's needed for well planned collectivization where trust is preserved.
@GloriaInvictis
@GloriaInvictis 2 жыл бұрын
@@krunkle5136 Well, see, here's the problem: There's no way to have a peaceful revolution and there's no way to reform an inherently murderous system. So yeah, Tonight We Riot had it spot on. Besides, "unaware of how irresponsible the police are"?! We're living in a world where police officers are active members of neo-Nazi parties. And they brag about it. What "irresponsibility" are you talking about?! The only people who are unaware are those who want to stay unaware because the system is mostly in their favor.
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 2 жыл бұрын
@@GloriaInvictis the problem with unpeaceful protests is it causes a reaction and continues the cycle. It's not a method that creates a long term stable situation where thoughtful reforms can be made. The American system is moreso one of fear and minimal accountability. And yes, power brokers often live in bubbles where it's hard to be aware of anything beyond what one's syncophants say is happening. There's too many interests targeting these people so they stick with what they know. And yes it's messed up that some police officers are neonazis donning the Punisher logo, but that's far from all of them. But that is a glaring problem that should be focused on. The revolutionary thing to do is to blend in and live out the ideals of socialism, like being mindful of public good, seeking ways to deatomize society, seeking education and gaining skills without being focused on what the market wants all the time.
@nibblrrr7124
@nibblrrr7124 2 жыл бұрын
18:53 Wasn't co-op mode (2-4 players playing the campaign levels & fighting demons together) available from the first release of Doom onwards? OFC, I'd assume death match was and is the most popular mode by far, so your point still stands.
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