Jonathan Pageau: The Symbolic World

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Jonathan Pageau is a French-Canadian liturgical artist and icon carver. His work has been featured in museums throughout the world. He also has a KZfaq channel called The Symbolic World, where he looks at “symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.” Additionally, Pageau edits the Orthodox Arts Journal.
The Symbolic World KZfaq channel: / @jonathanpageau
The Symbolic World website: www.thesymbolicworld.com
Pageau Carvings website: www.pageaucarvings.com
Articles written by Jonathan Pageau: orthodoxartsjournal.org/autho...
Dan Sherven is the author of three books: Light and Dark, the #1 Amazon Bestseller Classified: Off the Beat ‘N Path and Live to the Point of Tears. He holds a Bachelors of Philosophy and a Bachelors of Journalism. Sherven currently writes for Word on Fire, The Symbolic World, the Homiletic and Pastoral Review, Christian Courier, Luther College and the Archdiocese of Regina.
You can find his work at: linktr.ee/dansherven
Timestamps: (Thank you to @lisaonthemargins for providing timestamps.)
00:00:00 - What does it mean for Man to unite heaven and earth?
00:01:11 - Can you talk about how Christianity is unique in having a mediator between God and Man?
00:05:04 - In your Rumpelstiltskin video you were talking about death and glory, how does that relate to Christ being a perfect mediator?
00:09:53 - Is grace the natural state of man according to Orthodoxy?
00:11:40 - What is the Kingdom of Heaven?
00:14:32 - Why is St. Maximus so important?
00:15:52 - Explain the connection between nous and logos?
00:17:39 - Why is St. Gregory of Nyssa so important?
00:20:22 - What does it mean when a person becomes God?
00:22:59 - Would you elaborate on how Christianity solves the problem of unity and multiplicity?
00:26:31 - What's the goal of the work you're doing?
00:30:29 - Can you talk about your and Matthieu's influences on each other?
00:32:23 - Are you older than Matthieu? Is that related to the symbolism of the first born?
00:33:45 - Can you talk about how your life has changed through the work you've been doing with The Symbolic World? (Jordan Peterson as a bridge)
00:38:49 - What made you choose Orthodoxy instead of Catholicism?
00:42:12 - Is it painful that you can't do much iconography anymore?
00:44:05 - What was it like being on Mt. Athos?
00:46:02 - Did you ever think about becoming a monk?
00:46:52 - Why is Christianity needed now so vitally?
00:50:59 - What did you mean by "the West being set up for that"?
00:52:21 - What do you think the resurrection looks like?

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@JonathanPageau Жыл бұрын

This was one the interviews with the best questions I have been asked to answer. Thank, Dan.

@malcolmclarkson4680 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan, I am blessed to witness "the spirit" being expressed through You. Thank you for your work and your offerings.....ty

@gmk2222 Жыл бұрын

Who was this guy ‘Dan’. He’s an absolute marvel of mystery. Dan, you are the man. Thanks heaps

@fakename3208 Жыл бұрын

I’m someone who’s gone back to Church because of people like you Jonathan. Not just me but my wife and two young daughters as well, who will be baptized this fall. Thank you and God Bless.

@joolz5747 Жыл бұрын

I left a comment. But in reply here I just want you to know Jonathan, please never stop. You are the one redeeming quality in faith in my opinion. And you and your brother have been called for a purpose obviously. So thank you. Please keep it up forever because you are the future and God has a plan. God bless you very very much.

@joolz5747 Жыл бұрын

I found Jonathan and Matthew through Jordan Peterson. Maybe about a year ago. I can’t get enough. I love deep thinking I love symbolism, and I love all the wisdom they are imparting to us all. This was an excellent interview. I just saw it by accident, so thank you so much. This explains the whole thing very well to people who have no idea. I think that this is just what God Creator of the universe wants. Everybody just quietly accepts and believes, and doesn’t use their brain power or their spirituality or anything! So I think this is just awesome. I am a cradle Catholic. But believe me, I do believe in the basic doctrines, but I don’t like a lot of things regarding that faith. I agree with what you said. Had I had time in my life to really do what you did I probably would’ve joined you in that orthodoxy. The faith is mystical. The whole thing is mystical. And I agree, unfortunately growing up I learned rules. Sorry about that but thank God he brought me to the time I am at today and let me search and find. I just love the way you think Jonathan I just love it and that’s how I thought but I don’t understand at all and you’re helping me. But I do believe pretty much in everything that I hear directly from the Bible, and from people like Jonathan who are filled with wisdom. We were taught back in the day never question anything isn’t that interesting? What a dumb idea huh? Thank you again for what you’ve done because this is really excellent. God bless you. NEVER STOP!

@vimalpatel4060 Жыл бұрын

Hey, Joolz. There are hints, within your starting few lines, of many coming to see the scripture through them. And I like, the idea, of questioning. The things, that are messy. What is more Christian than, that. Look at the question, or fragments in the world, and Lord will provide answers, if we look long enough at them. Cause symbolically we are looking at chaos. And who better to look at this than the hell raider. Thanks for the comments, it generated a few light bulbs in my head.

@lisaonthemargins Жыл бұрын

Timestamps: (You can add this o your video description to make chapters) 00:00:01 - What does it mean for man to unite heaven and earth? 00:01:11 - Can you talk about how Christianity is unique in having a mediator between God and man 00:05:04 - In your Rumpelstiltskin video you were talking about death and glory, how does that relate to Christ being a perfect mediator? 00:09:53 - Is Grace the natural state of man according to Orthodoxy? 00:11:40 - What is the Kingdom of Heaven? 00:14:32 - Why is St Maximus so important? 00:15:52 - Explain the connection between nous and logos? 00:17:39 - Why is St Gregory of Nyssa so important? 00:20:22 - What does it mean when a person becomes God? 00:22:59 - Would you elaborate on how Christianity solves the problem of unity and multiplicity? 00:26:31 - What's the goal of the work you're doing? 00:30:29 - Can you talk about your and Matthieu's influences on each other? 00:32:23 - Are you older than Matthieu? Is that related to the symbolism of the first born? 00:33:45 - Can you talk about how your life has changed through the work you've been doing with the Symbolic World? (Jordan Peterson as a bridge) 00:38:49 - What made you choose Orthodoxy instead of Catholicism? 00:42:12 - Is it painful that you can't do much iconography anymore? 00:44:05 - What was it like being on Mt Athos? 00:46:02 - Did you ever think about becoming a monk? 00:46:52 - Why is Christianity needed now so vitally? 00:50:59 - What did you mean by "the West being set up for that"? 00:52:21 - What do you think does the resurrection look like after death?

@suppression2142 Жыл бұрын

I have never seen Johnathan be pushed to his limits before in a interview this was magnificent! So many insights came out of this!

@firmbiz000 Жыл бұрын

This interview was fantastic. Great questions Dan. I was moved when Jonathan mentioned how many young men have The Symbolic World as a part of their journey back to the Church as I am one of those young men. Thank you Jonathan for all that you do. It means more than you will ever know. God Bless.

@joeyvitamins Жыл бұрын

Dopey KZfaq is at least smart enough to recommend all conversations with Jonathan Pageau to me! I understand very little but I feel what he says is important and profound

@ChristianHada 9 ай бұрын

Dan asks the best questions. I feel like I really got more insight into Jonathan as person. Great interview.

@SimpleAmadeus Жыл бұрын

Hearing that agape is about loving the other in a way that will make them keep existing was very important to me. A part of me has always felt this vague fear of the union with God happening in such a way that I will disappear. And I've noticed at times that this feeling is accompanied by a feeling that I would rather have it the other way round, which I've been trying to banish from my thoughts, but it's been lingering by every now and then. Understanding that a total union in agape involves both God and I loving each other in such a way that we would not have the other be lessened in any way is a huge comfort to this struggle that has been going on in this deeper recess in my soul. Thank you so much.

@stevendouglas3781 9 сағат бұрын

Amen

@stevenyoung3752 Жыл бұрын

Some of the best interviews I've seen have been on this channel. Very good content

@elcourtanques9025 Жыл бұрын

The commentaries made in this video are pure gold, thanks for this content!!

@plantnovice Ай бұрын

30:47 this is a beautiful sibling dynamic.

@nonordinaryreality2686 11 ай бұрын

I have never met a saint but i imagine he would be just like Jonathon

@livelight1923 Жыл бұрын

I needed this interview! Thank you, both! God bless!

@marcschaeffer1584 9 ай бұрын

I am a roman catholic, and a member of the symbolic world. I agree with your criticisms of my church.

@TheApprentice007 Жыл бұрын

You should invest in a new microphone. Consider a Shure MV7, a simple preamp, and interface. It'll elevate your good content to excellent.

@EmilBJJLuton Жыл бұрын

Beautiful elucidations Mr Pageau! Thank you and God Bless!

@NorthernObserver Жыл бұрын

Great questions. Well done.

@RaduBompa Жыл бұрын

Great interview! To have chapters using the timestamps you need to put the first one at 00:00:00, otherwise the script won't understand it as such.

@SuperFishers 2 ай бұрын

Great guest, great questions, too many ads (although they may fund a better mic)

@adriandrozdek9769 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan and Mathieu are like Aaron and Moses

@joolz5747 Жыл бұрын

Great thought! They are the profits of our time. They are the Aquinas of our time. They are the Augustines of our time and they are called by God for this time. Thank you Jesus for sending them.

@matthewiovino6566 Жыл бұрын

everything he said about the Catholic Church is why I as a cradle roman catholic, chose to attend a Catholic Byzantine Church that celebrates the Melkite Rite this year when I felt called back to my glorious mother church.

@suzannahjames5264 11 ай бұрын

I wish the Catholic Church would remember all the children who were found last year in a mass grave. They were in a “Catholic Home” entrusted to nuns and priests who constantly abused them. We need to say an international mass every year to remember them rather than a one off blessing by our pope. The church still needs to sort the decades of abuse. I pray for our church to face up to these issues. It’s hard to imagine the broken lives of adults who have lived through that evil. ✝️

@sirifimay 11 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the Q&A with Jonathan's brother - Matthew as well kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q693f9WpnKe0kmg.htmlsi=p-LZ3APNta7eUBsC

@pxlwrds Жыл бұрын

cooooool

@elcourtanques9025 Жыл бұрын

Nice

@macromicrodragon Жыл бұрын

Heaven = communion(communication) leading to the totality of unification, as a uni part of a verse. The university being the phenomenal vastness of sound. Cancer being a body of cells that no longer communes with the rest of the body. Where does the Heart beat of Is come from?

@eek412 Жыл бұрын

Is there a video that explains more about theosis?

@thesecondlawandthetowerhou6026 Жыл бұрын

28:00 a lens as FS’s grid

@snocookies 10 ай бұрын

Content was great! Audio quailty not so much

@thesecondlawandthetowerhou6026 Жыл бұрын

22:00…a prism that God offers to the world…..

@plantnovice Ай бұрын

51:28 😂

@AugustasKunc Жыл бұрын

@Aquaticphilosophia Жыл бұрын

First!

@gabetorresx Жыл бұрын

First time here. Spend $10 on a microphone

@vittorioabramhuber7223 Жыл бұрын

Listen you don't really understand the metaphors. I am the best ever at this and will cover any teachings. They are all metaphors but you do not really know what you are talking about. If you like competition or want to test what you think you know. Then let's debate, no one has ever beaten the chosen one and I am him.