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Jonathan Sumption: It's not illegal to say 'free Palestine'

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@angelikigeorgouli5252
@angelikigeorgouli5252 4 ай бұрын
I thought I'd scroll down to read notes thanking the man for weighing in on such important matters. I am stunned!
@soheston
@soheston 10 ай бұрын
Why do we need to have a new distraction each new year? This is not new, Ucrania is not new, let’s look to the side that’s being hidden
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
Enlighten us rather than emit meaningless insinuations. As to "distractions", the Hamas attack happened. Are we supposed to pretend it didn't?
@soheston
@soheston 10 ай бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 when did the problem in Israel started? When did the problem with Ucrania and Russia started? Do I have to teach you something that you should know? Something that if you wouldn’t be a consumer of news and a believer of everything, you would be curious enough to know Did u get the jab? You have your answer there, I don’t need to enlighten the short life or full health problems life, natural selection works perfectly with fools
@ZombieTomato
@ZombieTomato 10 ай бұрын
You can see conspiracy theories as you will but reality is that stuff happens in the world. If you were a dinosaur, I bet you would have said "Why do we need to have a new distraction each new year?" when the meteor hit.
@soheston
@soheston 10 ай бұрын
@@ZombieTomato come on! Ucrania is being going on for decades, Israel also I guess u r vaxxed tiny dinosaur
@peterfowler9966
@peterfowler9966 6 ай бұрын
​@@gandydancer9710False Flag.
@user-zc4yd9ss7h
@user-zc4yd9ss7h 10 ай бұрын
It is not illegal to say 'Free Palestine'. Nor is it immoral.
@Kasim_Mahmood
@Kasim_Mahmood 10 ай бұрын
It should not be illegal. It's absurd that you can stand for Ukraine but you can get in trouble for saying free Palestine. Hypocrisy
@beecat9951
@beecat9951 10 ай бұрын
Well is isn't because Ukraine isn't calling for the extermination of Russia and the Russian people
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 10 ай бұрын
Hamas apologist
@Kasim_Mahmood
@Kasim_Mahmood 10 ай бұрын
​@@bassandtrebleclefnope, not me.
@vincefont4765
@vincefont4765 10 ай бұрын
Ukrainians don't adhere to a cult that randomly stabs people and blows up children in whatever country they infest.
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 10 ай бұрын
I say "Free Bigfoot and all the unicorns".
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 10 ай бұрын
No Hamas in the West Bank. This is not a ‘Hamas’ issue. This is an issue of racial supremacy, the ethno-nation state and yes, flagrant Apartheid
@hallelujah88
@hallelujah88 10 ай бұрын
This is a right wing echo chamber, your words are wasted here.
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 10 ай бұрын
Do you think Hamas would surrender its campaign against Israel in the event that Israel grant every and all concession? You're deluded if you say yes! So there's a conundrum to solve through diplomacy, of which the Palestinian side has been routinely reluctant to entertain. (Regardless, a state cannot be both a racialist one and an ethnic one. In any event, for good and for ill, the Arab support for Palestine is itself in the name of ethnic solidarity, which presumably you are in support of? Also, where is the "apartheid" - either the settlements are _illegally_ _occupying_ Palestinian land; or the the West Bank is not Palestine?)
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 10 ай бұрын
@@hallelujah88 Something tells me you have a grasp of irony!
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 10 ай бұрын
@@hallelujah88 never wasted. Conservatives and right wingers are sick and tired of the blind endorsement of Israel.
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 10 ай бұрын
@@SacClass650 Israel’s problem since day 1 is the presence of a Palestinian population. It’s so inconvenient for them. West Bank - no Hamas yet Palestinians are treated like animals. Please engage brain and logic
@ssebitaabawamala6861
@ssebitaabawamala6861 10 ай бұрын
Whoever thinks we are all stupid should wake up and smell the food. "Palestinians are human and they deserve respect" period
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 10 ай бұрын
Nice false premise!
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 10 ай бұрын
@@SacClass650yes they are seriously oppressed rejected humans.
@MACoote108
@MACoote108 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree! Well said 👏
@ricardokowalski1579
@ricardokowalski1579 10 ай бұрын
"free Palestine"? Yes. But how do you free a people from their elected "leaders"?
@fyrish100
@fyrish100 10 ай бұрын
Free Palestine from Israeli oppression …… pretty sure that’s what it means ! 2 million or so people living in a shithole while Israeli live in luxury across the border in stolen homes / land
@MonssterHD
@MonssterHD 10 ай бұрын
Are you thick? People of gaza weren't able to have another election since 2006 when hamas got elected. 50 % of them are kids. Not to even mention that they have been imprisoned by a terrorist state of israel for 20 years and arent able to see the outside world. Most people would be willing to commit evil crimes when subject to conditions that Palestinians have endured for the last 75 years. Israeli government are truly evil and bloodthirsty. Targeting both Palestinian Christians and muslims.
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 10 ай бұрын
That can be asked about any country. They lock you up, take your money and force you to take injections
@IaN09876
@IaN09876 10 ай бұрын
A terrorist to you as an occupier is a freedom fighter to the other, the occupied
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 10 ай бұрын
2005... Learn history.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
Is that supposed to imply that Hamas isn't in actual fact terrorist? It doesn't.
@IaN09876
@IaN09876 10 ай бұрын
@@gandydancer9710 Armed resistance to occupation is allowed under international law and UN chapter. I don't agree with Hamas if they target civilians but even if there's no Hamas you will get another resistance with a different name as long as the occupation continues.
@vincefont4765
@vincefont4765 10 ай бұрын
@@IaN09876 You're talking about the terrorist cult occupying Gaza, right? Of course you're not, you'll happily turn a blind eye to their activities, whether in Gaza, here, Sweden, or any civilised country that they infest.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
@@IaN09876 My impression is that Israel intends to crush Arab "resistance" and, contrary to what you seem to imagine, I see no reason why Israel can't do it. What you (largely falsely) imagine "international law" has to say on the subject is neither here nor there.
@peterkogl1329
@peterkogl1329 2 ай бұрын
It illegal to be legal if you are legally illegal and therefore legally legal illegally!!!
@peterkogl1329
@peterkogl1329 2 ай бұрын
Cut the crap. Free Julian Assange!
@mousiebrown1747
@mousiebrown1747 10 ай бұрын
No Genocide !
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 10 ай бұрын
There are 13 million Jews worldwide, there are over 1 billion Muslims. So who's in more danger of genocide?
@vincefont4765
@vincefont4765 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, first the Germans tried it, now the terrorist cult.
@rebeccadanvers884
@rebeccadanvers884 10 ай бұрын
It is very sad that a high profile lawyer has to put some common sense into such a clear cut matter. Palestine is not tantamount to Hamas, and not all the israelis are nationalist sionists. How have we come to be so oversimplistic?
@ZombieTomato
@ZombieTomato 10 ай бұрын
Blame it on NaZionism.
@victormeidan1062
@victormeidan1062 9 ай бұрын
Fakestine is a fake, pretend state that was invented in the 1970s. It obviously has no past, no present nor future. What you have, in actuality, is a Nazi-like death cult, masquerading as a Nationality.
@victoriacran523
@victoriacran523 9 ай бұрын
Is Jonathan Sumption an expert on everything?
@__Lachie
@__Lachie 8 ай бұрын
He thinks he is. He was in NZ recently lecturing us on our covid response. Old mate should stay in his lane.
@arnoldhemsley9317
@arnoldhemsley9317 8 ай бұрын
@@__Lachie He was right on the covid response. Check out Dr. Claire Craig in interview with John Campbell. Well worth viewing.
@JazzyKex78
@JazzyKex78 7 ай бұрын
Not an expert but a very good working knowledge on constitutional matters, law, common law. Also, he knows a hell of a lot on medieval history ❤
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 10 ай бұрын
Of course not. But it is immoral to leave out "from Hamas" which broke the cease fire on 10/7.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
Merely "breaking the ceasefire" isn't an atrocity. So don't be so mealy-mouthed about what Hamas did. But, yes, pretending that Israel is the only thing preventing "Palestine" from being "free" is an obnoxious absurdity.
@mohammedhanif6780
@mohammedhanif6780 4 ай бұрын
No they didn't. Go read and research.
@xrawna5189
@xrawna5189 10 ай бұрын
The Proper Context ... An old man in Gaza held a placard that read: “You take my water, burn my olive trees, destroy my house, take my job, steal my land, imprison my father, kill my mother, bombard my country, starve us all, humiliate us all, but I am to blame: I shot a rocket back.” The old man’s message provides the proper context for the latest episode in the savage punishment of Gaza. The crimes trace back to 1948 .." -Noam Chomsky - December 4th 2012
@MichaelPetek
@MichaelPetek 10 ай бұрын
Arab and Turkish crimes go all the way back to the 7th century, when the Arabs stole the Middle East and North Africa from the Roman Empire. "You kill our men, enslave our women and children, make us pay the jizya as the price of wearing our heads for another year, exterminate the Armenians, but we're to blame for carving up your Caliphate."
@nettietrees7238
@nettietrees7238 10 ай бұрын
Then hamas, the leading party of Gaza should be working for diplomatic responses to this crises - but they don’t.
@RitaHutchins
@RitaHutchins 10 ай бұрын
That is not true, not by a long shot. Please go and investigate. Go deep. Look for old books, magazines, newspapers and maps. Indira Gandhi said it right: “ If the Palestinians put down their weapons the conflict would cease to exist, if the Israelis put down their weapons, Israel would cease to exist.” And that’s the truth if you go observe history. They teach their children to hate the Jews. That’s as simple as that.
@adriancojocaru5846
@adriancojocaru5846 10 ай бұрын
@@nettietrees7238 have you seen how the UN SG was treated by the israelis after his diplomatic statement? And how Israel celebrated the appearance of hamas after the fatah made huge progress in trying to negotiate a peaceful solution?
@JazzyKex78
@JazzyKex78 7 ай бұрын
It goes back to around 1897 when herzl convened first Zionist congress in basal, Theodore Herzl
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 9 ай бұрын
The problem with lawyerly rules is some sociopathic jerk will inevitably use them to defend evil. And, they’ll claim anyone disagreeing with them is the bad guy so they can grab power. This doesn’t mean we cannot have rules, but we do have to teach voters to be rational and understand the limitations of rules.
@EnglishroG
@EnglishroG 9 ай бұрын
In other words, vote Likud! Right?
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 9 ай бұрын
@@EnglishroG I was unaware that was part of the Likud platform. Is it?
@EnglishroG
@EnglishroG 9 ай бұрын
@@nunyabidness3075 None of your business, right?
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 9 ай бұрын
@@EnglishroG You started this conversation pal. I was just reminding people of what used to be common knowledge until the asylums that used to be universities got taken over by the current crop of romantic nutters.
@EnglishroG
@EnglishroG 9 ай бұрын
@@nunyabidness3075 That's none of your business.
@JarmilaXymenaGorna
@JarmilaXymenaGorna 10 ай бұрын
Sorry Mr Sumption, but it seems you aren’t fully aware of the meaning of Freddie’s quote: ‘from the river to the sea’ etc. This is meant to express that Palestine should be where Israel is now, and not only that, but Juderein - free of the Jews. Let’s know the meaning and gravitas of the words we say, before committing to express them.
@rodneyfungus8249
@rodneyfungus8249 10 ай бұрын
He knows the meaning of the words Freddie even spelled it out, though I suspect Mr Sumption knew already. What he said is it should not be illegal to have the view that Israel should not exist as a nation - it should however be illegal to advocate terrorism to achieve this goal.
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 10 ай бұрын
Yes they should all be allowed right of return and should be on the land, as any Jew is. The land is for both
@willcruz943
@willcruz943 10 ай бұрын
@@blobbins17 Here is the problem, it was never for both. If the British did not gifted Abdullah the Hashemite,Trans-Jordan, then the so called Palestinians would have had their own country which btw, 50% of the population of Jordan is Palestinians .
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
@@blobbins17 Roughly as many Jews were ethnically cleansed from the rest of the Middle East as Arabs left or were expelled from Israel. "Both" is demonstrably unsafe, so partition is the only possibility. Wake up and grow up.
@martinwatson9615
@martinwatson9615 10 ай бұрын
Israel now is where Palestine was, so how is that different
@xrawna5189
@xrawna5189 10 ай бұрын
How about discussing crimes committed by the Jews in Israel against Palestinians since 1945. Oh no we can’t do that.
@victormeidan1062
@victormeidan1062 9 ай бұрын
Israel has not committed any crimes against the p people. One reason is that no such p people ever existed. Israel captured Judea & Samaria from Jordan while Gaza was captured from Egypt. This happened when these nations attacked Israel in the 6 day war. From where did this phantom p nationality come from ? It cannot simply materialize from thin air, can it?
@jamesc4198
@jamesc4198 10 ай бұрын
Freedom of speech
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 10 ай бұрын
Freedom to receive the consequences of your speech.
@ZombieTomato
@ZombieTomato 10 ай бұрын
@@robertholland7558Then don't cry "anti-semitism" all the time 😂
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 10 ай бұрын
@@ZombieTomato I am anti religious! I believe in reality, even if I don’t fully understand it. I don’t feel the need to make up fantasies to explain the unexplainable. There is no creation, of any kind, the universe has always been, no beginning no end. And I have no problem defending that perspective, you are the one calling me “ anti semitism “, you are the name caller, chew on that, I could not care less what you call me, words don’t hurt me.
@ZombieTomato
@ZombieTomato 10 ай бұрын
@@robertholland7558That was weird.
@murraymorison3924
@murraymorison3924 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this edited insight into a very important matter.
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 10 ай бұрын
True, it's not illegal to say "free palestine". Neither is it illegal to be ignorant. In fact, it's fairly popular to be ignorant.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
The title is completely a strawman. Is "Gas the Jews" ok because it merely shares a common objective with Hamas rather than provide support for Hamas? (I don't, btw, think merely chanting "Gas the Jews" ought to be subject to legal punishment, but that's tangential to my point.)
@billbogg3857
@billbogg3857 9 ай бұрын
You can't have lawyers at every turn deciding whether or not a politician's actions are legal. It means that the better policy gives way to a feebler alternative.
@johntaylor3940
@johntaylor3940 3 ай бұрын
people forget The Palestinains worked along side Hamas, employed by terrorists for years they must have know one day they will be troops
@Law-of-love
@Law-of-love 10 ай бұрын
Government = glorified Toll-booth keepers. Time to tell them " F*** Off - NO ! " 😳
@gheller2261
@gheller2261 Ай бұрын
I don't think it's illegal to engage in terrorism. This guy is a joke.
@Sidistic_Atheist
@Sidistic_Atheist 10 ай бұрын
A Palestinian State was never established. Palestine as a Country, Region or State does not exist anymore.
@sarashepard7504
@sarashepard7504 10 ай бұрын
So this is your argument for Zionism and for indigenous people to be blockaded and killed indiscriminately? It’s their land and they are being taken over by an occupying force that is committing war crimes against them. Wake up
@felixmoyoedonmi
@felixmoyoedonmi 10 ай бұрын
What is your point? America was never a country before it became a country. No state was ever a state before it became a state. Your attempt to justify zionism is unintelligent.
@hedwigwendell-crumb91
@hedwigwendell-crumb91 10 ай бұрын
Irrelevant. Every human deserves to live, without threat, on this earth! What nonsense to say who owns what. Humans are by far the stupidest animals on this planet. Making up meaningless laws which harm others. Absolutely disgraceful.
@beecat9951
@beecat9951 10 ай бұрын
​@@sarashepard7504Jews are the indigenous people of Judea, hence the term Jew. Israel is a sovereign state and the Palestinian people have rejected a two state solution since the UN drew up plans in 1947. Radical Islam calls for the killing of Jews, Christians and non-belivers which is why Arabs live peacefully in Israel whilst Jews are massacred by Muslim extremists.
@beecat9951
@beecat9951 10 ай бұрын
​@@felixmoyoedonmiAmerica is a continent which simply exists. The USA is a sovereign state. I'm not sure what your point is?
@Demiabahku
@Demiabahku 3 ай бұрын
The line is to stop calling
@user-px6mq6nm4e
@user-px6mq6nm4e 8 ай бұрын
Free from what ? Hamas exploited them.... Can you tell it Free from hamas ?
@_observer_-xk7hb
@_observer_-xk7hb 9 ай бұрын
Freddie Sayers sits there pompous and smirking while Lord Sumption talks confidently about an issue he knows nothing about.
@Demiabahku
@Demiabahku 3 ай бұрын
Jokers. Polemics
@mohammedhanif6780
@mohammedhanif6780 4 ай бұрын
Wow a pro-Palestinian opinion on this channel!!!
@user-ze5kr6pn6h
@user-ze5kr6pn6h 3 ай бұрын
Pompous IGNORAMUS🙄
@tanzeelaamjad7928
@tanzeelaamjad7928 10 ай бұрын
Free Palestine
@iviedd
@iviedd 10 ай бұрын
Smart man.
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
Also a nitwit.
@janeb1484
@janeb1484 10 ай бұрын
If only we stuck to the law!
@m2chan
@m2chan 3 ай бұрын
Some Arabs may had their grandparents as first generation had sometime living in the biblical land ,politically deployed there by the Islamic power . Arab Islamic's colonialism on the Biblical land should end ,please leave Israel alone .Kingdom of Israel been there 3000 years ago even before Jesus appeared .
@global.explorer
@global.explorer 3 ай бұрын
No such country as Palestine.
@Marri12345
@Marri12345 3 ай бұрын
Correction no such country called Israel it was suggested by the UN as an idea and then Zionist stole Palestine as a result
@Marri12345
@Marri12345 3 ай бұрын
and as a brain child of the US and UK the notion was unilaterally taken without the consent of the Palestinians
@Marri12345
@Marri12345 3 ай бұрын
Next time u try playing with history remember ur agenda was never the truth but that of a liar
@Butterfly-t6d
@Butterfly-t6d 9 ай бұрын
Israel has every right to go after Hamas in any way they see fit. I can’t even imagine how the US would deal with a similar incident in this country. All of these armchair military strategists are so pompous
@doradorina1980
@doradorina1980 8 ай бұрын
Thats why the USA are known to be an imperialist power who have ILLEGALLY invaded half the globe. Thanks to you personally for displaying your sociopathic tendencies and callous regard for human life by condoning genocide btw 😅😅😅
@tameimpala37
@tameimpala37 10 ай бұрын
Who said it was!!!!
@kenlennon
@kenlennon 10 ай бұрын
Live and learn mate.
@juliacarr5039
@juliacarr5039 10 ай бұрын
What does " free Palestine" even mean? Free them to what????
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 10 ай бұрын
From Israeli oppression!!!
@juliacarr5039
@juliacarr5039 10 ай бұрын
@@johnmc3862 😂yeah because Hamas the barbarians are so kind to them! That's NOT freedom,it's hell!
@gandydancer9710
@gandydancer9710 10 ай бұрын
@@johnmc3862 From Hamas, rather.
@rebeccadanvers884
@rebeccadanvers884 10 ай бұрын
​@@gandydancer9710according to the Jerusalem post 12March 2019 Hamas lives off the Netanyahu's goverment. Search on the net. It is not a suspicious antisemitic website.
@victormeidan1062
@victormeidan1062 9 ай бұрын
Is it legal to say Free "the 3rd Reich ". Because it is an identical situation.
@EnglishroG
@EnglishroG 9 ай бұрын
Palestine isn't and never has been the Third Reich.
@HowToSaveMoneyOnCarRepairs
@HowToSaveMoneyOnCarRepairs 10 ай бұрын
America and England support Israel, so you are expected to follow that Trend..!🤔🤔
@beecat9951
@beecat9951 10 ай бұрын
Support it for good reason
@anuragsinha2013
@anuragsinha2013 8 ай бұрын
Apparently, we are supposed to call people by thier pronouns but not supposed to call Hamas, Hezbollah, islamic jihad and Iran all of thier "Palestinian cause" friends by thier actual theological bent.
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 10 ай бұрын
It might not be illegal to say it, but it’s not accurate.
@RitaHutchins
@RitaHutchins 10 ай бұрын
What a disappointment with Unheard. Are you in favor of Hamas?!?! Because to be pro Palestinians that support Hamas ( just go there and start asking on the streets, go to the schools and ask the students) is to be pro terrorists. Are there Palestinians that want to have a state and live in peace with Israel? Maybe a handful, but not many. I’m not a Jew, but it’s obvious the antisemitism is tolerated while Palestine’s criticism is not.
@Sk9999-jr1gx
@Sk9999-jr1gx 10 ай бұрын
Honey, your game is over. The world is flooded with support from Palestine. Everyone has woken up to the truth. The Israeli state is committing crimes against humanity and is the real oppressive terrorist. Israel is the biggest state sponsored terrorist. Where is the world’s support for your point? I don’t see any protests for Israel’s actions of terrorism. The world has risen against the racist, terrorist, barbaric, genocidal actions of Israel. Social media is completely destroying your fabricated lies and stories. Israel is getting exposed everyday of every hour. Nobody respects it. And honey, if you continue standing up for this then you will be alone in a sea of truth. FREE PALESTINE! Condemn ISRAEL. And btw I love the Jews that admit Israel’s terrorism and war crimes and admit that they made a concentration camp like Normal Filkenstein. What an honourable Jew he is. Love Noam Chomsky too. But the kind of person you are, man even Judaism wouldn’t want you.
@avtar1699
@avtar1699 10 ай бұрын
This is a strawman argument. You could argue the Israelis are racist and want to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians from Gaza. I don't think your argument holds anymore, many people are getting 'canceled' for just expressing an opinion on the war. Many have lost jobs, or have had opportunities being taken away because of their comments on Israel. Again, I am for Israel, not Jewish, and believe that the existence of Israel is existential to our interests in the region. However, descending into the narrative that the Palestinians are sub-human infidels who for no fault of their own are subject to living conditions that would be on par with the Jews in Europe during the 30s in Germany and thus for their disapproval of their 'occupiers' should be condemned to this cycle of violence does not do anyone favors, especially Israel. It is concerning, that the right of the West cannot see this, partly motivated by their hatred of Islam and the support of the Jewish project. To be honest, the only ethical thing that Israel can do is annex Gaza and the west bank, and intergrate arabs into israeli society. There are many arabs who serve in the israeli military. But the israeli elite knows they won't do it, as it will lead to chaos.
@theyazankelly226
@theyazankelly226 9 ай бұрын
Being pro-Palestine is being pro-human and being an anti-colonialist. Zionists are the ones that are anti-Semitic. They aim to strip Jews from their nationality and replace it with an Israeli nationality. Then they do atrocious acts of ethnic cleansing in the name of Jews. This propaganda is creating anti-semitism. Get your facts right before you start promoting racist comments (I don’t expect you to change as you are probably brainwashed with anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiment).
@Barcafan987
@Barcafan987 9 ай бұрын
Lol
@simplyafederalist
@simplyafederalist 10 ай бұрын
Iserials stated policy has been a two state solution. Its the palistians who have rejected a two state solution. With the exception of keeping west Jerlauism. Aka the temple mount. Isrial policy ia to give palistian all of the west bank and gaza. Aka all the land they took in 67 from Jordan and Eygpt ecept the Jews most holy site.
@giannislainas5187
@giannislainas5187 10 ай бұрын
Fake news. Even Hamas has accepted the two state solution in principle in past years. Israel in practice doesnt pursue the two state solution,for sure not today.
@chrisgilbert956
@chrisgilbert956 10 ай бұрын
When we see in The Holy Bible that the particular strip of land we call Israel is determined by our Creator to be inherited by Abraham's grandson Jacob and His descendants thousands of years ago, we need to remember that any group of people dwelling there must submit to a Holy, Creator God's Authority and that means Jacob's descendants who rule that strip of land. Is this not the true question? Arabs have plenty of land, but those who moved into Israel and made it their home for 1900 years do not want to submit to Israel's right to the land or the Government they have formed. The fact is that the End is already determined and Scripture tells the "End" of the matter in Ezekiel 38-39, and in the Book of Revelation for rebels, terrorists and those who attempt to usurp God Himself ( and His King of Israel, Jesus Christ) will not end well.
@chrisgilbert956
@chrisgilbert956 10 ай бұрын
The American Indians have the same situation as Arabs dwelling in Israel, yet the times they have chosen to rebel have been quickly squashed without any international outrage on their behalf.
@sandall100
@sandall100 10 ай бұрын
By the way Zionism is NOT a religion it is an ideology. I think you will find that many Jews are atheists. The land consists of Palestine and Israeli state there is no such thing as "Israel's right to the land".
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisgilbert956 What are you talking about? The Indians have their own semi-autonomous land.
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 10 ай бұрын
@@SacClass650so are you suggesting the Palestinian should have their own semi autonomous lands?
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 10 ай бұрын
@@robertholland7558 They have autonomous lands - Gaza, and the West Bank (essentially Jordan, too) - whose integrity should be respected.
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